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kdspurman
02-09-2015, 04:06 PM
Games of the week- (short week due to all star weekend)

http://espn.go.com/nba/schedule

Notable games:

Clippers @ Mavs 8:30PM - Monday

Rockets @ Suns 8:00PM Tuesday (TNT)

Wizards @ Raptors 7:30PM- Wednesday

Grizzlies @ Thunder 8:00PM- Wednesday

Heat @ Cavs 8:00PM- Wednesday (ESPN)

Rockets @ Clippers 10:30PM- Wednesday (ESPN)

Cavs @ Bulls 8:00PM- Thursday (TNT)

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-09-2015, 04:24 PM
Hope TNT enjoys the Nuggets/Lakers broadcast on Thursday. :facepalm:

Goose17
02-09-2015, 04:40 PM
Dallas and LAC should be fun.

Nothing else on tonight worth watching.

Lakers + Giants
02-09-2015, 04:50 PM
Dallas and LAC should be fun.

Nothing else on tonight worth watching.

IDK with the way clippers have been playing, it might be a dallas blowout.

Giannis94
02-09-2015, 07:14 PM
Whats it gunna take for the Bucks to get more prime time? I mean I know they lost the #2 pick and what not but this team just doesn't stop winning

torocan
02-09-2015, 07:38 PM
The games tonight are pretty blah.

Dallas/Clippers would have been a really good game to watch, but with Griffin out I expect it to be mediocre. I'll still watch it though just to see how the refs treat the Clippers over the next few weeks.

I'll probably catch SAS and the Hawks just for the quality basketball... at least on one side of the court.

kdspurman
02-09-2015, 09:28 PM
Duncan turns back Hibberts dunk. Granted Hibbert doesn't elevate lol.. Tim just has great timing

ClutchTime
02-09-2015, 09:48 PM
Watching the Clippers Mavs game on NBA TV. Monta Ellis limping to bench after a Dallas timeout.

ClutchTime
02-09-2015, 09:59 PM
Chandler doubtful to return for the Mavs.

goingfor28
02-10-2015, 01:23 AM
DJ had a monster game tonight. 22 pts, 27 reb, 3 blocks

ClutchTime
02-10-2015, 04:35 PM
DJ had a monster game tonight. 22 pts, 27 reb, 3 blocks

Talk about helping my fantasy team. 42 fantasy points!

DillyDill
02-10-2015, 04:49 PM
DJ had a monster game tonight. 22 pts, 27 reb, 3 blocks

Glass eater supreme

lol, please
02-10-2015, 06:46 PM
I love watching the clippers because it reminds me of how superior the warriors are.

zn23
02-10-2015, 11:03 PM
Pau Gasol has been nothing short of brilliant the last 3 games. He hasn't played at this level since he was winning rings with the Lakers.

Tony_Starks
02-10-2015, 11:19 PM
Pau Gasol has been nothing short of brilliant the last 3 games. He hasn't played at this level since he was winning rings with the Lakers.


To think this idiot DAntoni benched him his third day on the job. Then demanded stay on the perimeter to fit his style.... Awww man, don't even get me started

lol, please
02-10-2015, 11:23 PM
D'antoni is an offensive mastermind. The disrespect he gets on PSD is disgraceful.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-10-2015, 11:25 PM
Pau Gasol has been nothing short of brilliant the last 3 games. He hasn't played at this level since he was winning rings with the Lakers.

Even with JB being the leading scorer, Pau's impact has been greater. He's been the only consistent player for us.

Htownballa1622
02-10-2015, 11:47 PM
Beard me!

40/12/9

HoopsDrive
02-10-2015, 11:56 PM
Harden just went to town against the Suns in that last quarter... holy smokes

mightybosstone
02-10-2015, 11:56 PM
Houston's defense has gotten atrocious without Dwight on the floor, but my god what a performance by Harden in that fourth quarter. He scored 19 of his 40 in that period and came up one assist shy of the triple double. He and Bledsoe put on a show with a few minutes left, but the Rockets made a ton of threes in that fourth quarter, and Phoenix couldn't match it.

They head to LA tomorrow. But even with Blake out, they've got to play a lot better basketball than they played tonight. Given how difficult this little three-game stretch was before the All-Star break, I'd love to see them go 2-1 heading into the break.

JOSETHEALLSTAR
02-11-2015, 01:03 AM
Harden for MVP

Teeboy1487
02-11-2015, 01:17 AM
Harden is the MVP imo.

lol, please
02-11-2015, 01:28 AM
Harden is the MVP imo.
If by Harden you mean Curry, then I agree.

Teeboy1487
02-11-2015, 02:34 AM
If by Harden you mean Curry, then I agree.

For me, I'm tired of the best player on the best team winning it. Harden to me has been the most valuable player this year.

kozelkid
02-11-2015, 03:03 AM
Even with JB being the leading scorer, Pau's impact has been greater. He's been the only consistent player for us.
No way. For all the gaudy numbers he has put up, he has been an absolute sieve defensively. His lack of quickness is a big reason with regards to our drop on defense this year.

Not to mention, he needs to continue to avoid those post up plays that bogs down the offense and makes it entirely predictable.

Don't get me wrong, I love Pau at his contract, but he has also brought a lot of liabilities. Butler has still been easily the most valuable player.

ClutchTime
02-11-2015, 08:24 AM
I'd take the win but man did the Rockets play terrible against the Suns. Off to LA...

goingfor28
02-11-2015, 11:47 AM
Harden for MVP
Yup

Harden is the MVP imo.
Yup

If by Harden you mean Curry, then I agree.
Nope. 2nd

Vee-Rex
02-11-2015, 02:37 PM
I love watching the clippers because it reminds me of how superior the warriors are.

You're quickly becoming like the worst poster on here, if you already aren't.

Just chill out with the baiting/trolling for once?

Goose17
02-11-2015, 04:01 PM
If by Harden you mean Curry, then I agree.

Yep.

ClutchTime
02-11-2015, 05:54 PM
Ehhh I guess only 2 good games to watch tonight. Rockets Clippers at 10:30 on ESPN and Grizzlies Thunder at 8:00. Big game for the Thunder to continue and show they are back and make a run for a playoff spot. Going to be a tough game but I'm going with the Thunder only because they are the home team.

Goose17
02-11-2015, 06:04 PM
Let's go Grizzlies! Prove me right!!

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 08:29 PM
man i'm so dissapointed that wade wont play tonight. I wil stil be watching but its a big bummer that he's injured :(

DillyDill
02-11-2015, 09:06 PM
Grizz vs OKC and Clipps vs Rox will be exciting intense gm's can't wait

lol, please
02-11-2015, 09:13 PM
Wolves will beat us if shots don't fall and dubs don't play defense til the last whistle. Another team thats better than their record indicates.

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 09:28 PM
god hubie brown do you ever just **** the fck up.... my goodness this guy keeps on talking and talking with that pis annoying voice of him

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 09:34 PM
alright down 20 already after the first quarter, along with commentary of hubie brown. i'm outa here

Minimal
02-11-2015, 09:35 PM
That smile on Spo's face is priceless

Saddletramp
02-11-2015, 09:36 PM
god hubie brown do you ever just **** the fck up.... my goodness this guy keeps on talking and talking with that pis annoying voice of him

Hubie Brown used to be the greatest color guy in the business. He's near the bottom now.

mngopher35
02-11-2015, 09:42 PM
Wolves will beat us if shots don't fall and dubs don't play defense til the last whistle. Another team thats better than their record indicates.

I do agree we are better now with our vets back. I'm counting on you guys winning, we need to lose as many as possible still. If we can get a top 3 prospect that would be huge.

IKnowHoops
02-11-2015, 09:45 PM
alright down 20 already after the first quarter, along with commentary of hubie brown. i'm outa here


That smile on Spo's face is priceless

:laugh: Nothing but pain today.

IKnowHoops
02-11-2015, 09:47 PM
Shumpert getting more comfortable. This team is gonna be filthy by the time playoffs come around.

FlashBolt
02-11-2015, 09:47 PM
Remember when they said LeBron had a lot of help? This is practically the same Heat team... LeBron MADE the Heat work. Without him, they are lost and all of their inconsistencies are flat out visible.

On a side note, Hubie Brown has great knowledge for the game but Jesus Christ, this guy could go hours talking about how paint dries..

IKnowHoops
02-11-2015, 09:49 PM
Another reason I feel the Cavs will win this year is that this is the least amount of work Lebron has ever had to do to get wins.

FlashBolt
02-11-2015, 09:52 PM
Another reason I feel the Cavs will win this year is that this is the least amount of work Lebron has ever had to do to get wins.

If they keep blowing teams out, he'll see his minutes drop to 34-35. This team looks dangerously good right now. Love's defense has even improved.

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 09:53 PM
Remember when they said LeBron had a lot of help? This is practically the same Heat team... LeBron MADE the Heat work. Without him, they are lost and all of their inconsistencies are flat out visible.

On a side note, Hubie Brown has great knowledge for the game but Jesus Christ, this guy could go hours talking about how paint dries..

ikr. lebron was the biggest factor miami was good last year. remember that BS from spoelstra about how chris bosh was the most important player for miami? i never believed it...

and yes hubie brown is just stupid. hate this guy so much. give me any other commentator all day

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 09:54 PM
:laugh: Nothing but pain today.

its been like that for the last 20 games with the miami heat

Miltstar
02-11-2015, 09:57 PM
Wolves will beat us if shots don't fall and dubs don't play defense til the last whistle. Another team thats better than their record indicates.

Well in all fairness Rubio's only played 9 games

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 09:58 PM
you know its bad when spoelstra inserts haslem in the lineup

archdevil84
02-11-2015, 10:01 PM
and ofcourse they go on a run with him....

Minimal
02-11-2015, 10:09 PM
Only in NBA 20 second time out is 2 minute time out

kdspurman
02-11-2015, 10:21 PM
Watching duncan/baynes/Leonard and Monroe/Drummond battle in the paint has been fun.

ClutchTime
02-11-2015, 10:32 PM
Uhhh is it 10:30 yet? These late time starts on the west coast is killing me. Rocket Nation baby!

Vee-Rex
02-11-2015, 10:33 PM
There is only one person I hate in this league. Mario Chalmers. He sucks so bad but thinks he's so good. He's a whiny and dirty player.

tredigs
02-11-2015, 10:33 PM
Remember when they said LeBron had a lot of help? This is practically the same Heat team... LeBron MADE the Heat work. Without him, they are lost and all of their inconsistencies are flat out visible.

On a side note, Hubie Brown has great knowledge for the game but Jesus Christ, this guy could go hours talking about how paint dries..

Lmao - he didn't? They had 3pt specialists who were also some of the games great veteran leadership guys in Ray Allen/Battier and a prime Wade/Bosh. Wade started breaking down last year and it's more of the same this year, but that wasn't the Wade of 2010/11/12/13. Hell, he was demonstrably outplayed by his own teammate in the Mavs finals, and overall throughout that years series as a whole Wade was better. That's not enough help? How soon we forget that Bosh and Wade were both elite #1's (Wade playing at legend level really with his crap cast really) before Lebron joined up. They're in their 30's now and the games have added up.

lol, please
02-11-2015, 10:34 PM
Another reason I feel the Cavs will win this year is that this is the least amount of work Lebron has ever had to do to get wins.
Bias against lebron aside, this made me laugh out loud.

kdspurman
02-11-2015, 10:36 PM
Remember when they said LeBron had a lot of help? This is practically the same Heat team... LeBron MADE the Heat work. Without him, they are lost and all of their inconsistencies are flat out visible.

On a side note, Hubie Brown has great knowledge for the game but Jesus Christ, this guy could go hours talking about how paint dries..

Not to discount lebrons obvious impact, but this heat team has had a lot of injuries. They're better than their record shows. All year they've had guys in and out of their lineup

tredigs
02-11-2015, 10:47 PM
Turner with the winner over ATL!

zn23
02-11-2015, 10:54 PM
Raps just swept the season series with the Wizards 3-0. They've beaten them 7/8 times they played them.

Vee-Rex
02-11-2015, 10:54 PM
Not to discount lebrons obvious impact, but this heat team has had a lot of injuries. They're better than their record shows. All year they've had guys in and out of their lineup

Many other teams have had injuries. Cavs included. Yet the Cavs aren't spared any bashing or hate.

Miami may not make the playoffs in the weak east because they just aren't a good team without LeBron. The coach isn't good either. Wade will never ever be fully healthy for a year. Bosh will never ever have that killer mentality needed that guys like Durant and Curry and Harden and Aldridge have that put their teams on the next level.

mightybosstone
02-11-2015, 11:14 PM
I wonder what the odds were today on Atlanta and Golden State both loosing to sub .500 teams? Somebody could make a bunch of money here in a minute if a Minnesota player can hit a shot.

mightybosstone
02-11-2015, 11:15 PM
Wow.... And Pekovic misses a wide open shot from four feet.

kdspurman
02-11-2015, 11:18 PM
Many other teams have had injuries. Cavs included. Yet the Cavs aren't spared any bashing or hate.

Miami may not make the playoffs in the weak east because they just aren't a good team without LeBron. The coach isn't good either. Wade will never ever be fully healthy for a year. Bosh will never ever have that killer mentality needed that guys like Durant and Curry and Harden and Aldridge have that put their teams on the next level.

you don't need to tell me about injuries, lol.... cleveland is the spotlight with LeBron. scrutiny isn't fair, but it is what it is unfortunately.

my point was just Miami is a better team than their record shows. when he left Cleveland, it was different, they were terrible. when he left Miami, they still had good pieces in place. wade/Deng/bosh/McRoberts/Anderson (maybe more) have all missed a good amount of time. I just don't think Miami is like cleveland was by any means just cause LeBron left

zn23
02-11-2015, 11:24 PM
Wow.... And Pekovic misses a wide open shot from four feet.

very sad....

FlashBolt
02-11-2015, 11:26 PM
you don't need to tell me about injuries, lol.... cleveland is the spotlight with LeBron. scrutiny isn't fair, but it is what it is unfortunately.

my point was just Miami is a better team than their record shows. when he left Cleveland, it was different, they were terrible. when he left Miami, they still had good pieces in place. wade/Deng/bosh/McRoberts/Anderson (maybe more) have all missed a good amount of time. I just don't think Miami is like cleveland was by any means just cause LeBron left

They suck compared to what they were last year and I think that's what matters. They are not a THREAT to anyone. Let's be honest here. They went from being the second best team to barely a top 20 team. All that mainly because of LeBron. Their inconsistencies and flaws are showing more than ever with him gone. leBron just covered so much for that team. He was their rebounder, passer, scorer, and defender. Their rebounder is Bosh -- who isn't a good rebounder. Whiteside just came into the equation so I don't want to include him for now. Their passer doesn't draw attention to anything so the passes aren't as open. The scoring is completely gone. Defender in Deng but that's pretty much it. When you think of who did what, James was that guy for Miami.

zn23
02-11-2015, 11:37 PM
Heat have definitely been ravaged by injuries but they are about where they should be. They don't play great defense, offensively they are ok. Weak bench. Worst pg situation in the league. When you have to start Napier, you've got big problems. But their front court is good. Whiteside is a beast. Bosh has been productive. They can make some noise in the playoffs as 7th or 8th seed if they get healthy.

Htownballa1622
02-11-2015, 11:40 PM
It would be so nice to get a W against the Clips. They've owned us lately.

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-11-2015, 11:45 PM
Raps just swept the season series with the Wizards 3-0. They've beaten them 7/8 times they played them.

Hope they match up with them in the playoffs before the Bulls do.

Htownballa1622
02-11-2015, 11:50 PM
Patrick Beverly and Joey Dorsey are such negatives on offense.

mngopher35
02-11-2015, 11:56 PM
Great game for the wolves. We play solid and keep it competitive/exciting until the end and still get the loss (warriors get their win).

tredigs
02-12-2015, 12:08 AM
I wonder what the odds were today on Atlanta and Golden State both loosing to sub .500 teams? Somebody could make a bunch of money here in a minute if a Minnesota player can hit a shot.
Haha. Low, that's for sure. Thankfully the Warriors escaped. Wolves are a new team with Rubio and the way their youngsters are stepping up though. More of a .500 club I think. I figured with this being the last game of a road trip and the 6th game in 9 nights for GS they would have their work cut out for them in this one despite the Wolves record.

Vee-Rex
02-12-2015, 12:18 AM
Lol at Mark Jackson.

JVG: How is that a good finish? A big guy dunks?

MJ: That's not a big guy... that's a Big Baby.

mightybosstone
02-12-2015, 12:37 AM
The foul and free throw discrepancy in this first half of the Houston/Clipper game is pretty rough. I admit that Houston should be attacking the basket more, but LA has gotten the benefit of some truly blatantly bad calls. And that no call on that DeAndre Jordan 3-second violation earlier made me want to throw up in my mouth. He practically had a 10-minute tea party right under the basket.

mightybosstone
02-12-2015, 12:46 AM
And then almost as if by design, the refs give Houston the benefit of the doubt on a couple of bad calls down the stretch. This has not been a well officiated game thus far, but that was a pretty great first half. Not one of Harden's better games, but you've gotta feel like he's going to bust out at some point.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 01:02 AM
you don't need to tell me about injuries, lol.... cleveland is the spotlight with LeBron. scrutiny isn't fair, but it is what it is unfortunately.

my point was just Miami is a better team than their record shows. when he left Cleveland, it was different, they were terrible. when he left Miami, they still had good pieces in place. wade/Deng/bosh/McRoberts/Anderson (maybe more) have all missed a good amount of time. I just don't think Miami is like cleveland was by any means just cause LeBron left

Its by and large the primary factor. Wade had trouble with his availability when Bron was carrying the load, why would increasing Wade's role help in that regard? He left a better team than the one that was left in Cleveland but its not by much, especially with the revelation that Whiteside has become (whom you neglected to mention).

I have no doubt if Bron was still in Miami they would be competing for the first seed. Simply because it would have meant Pau is on the team as well and they would have great familiarity with each other.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 01:05 AM
The way the Clips have swarmed Harden today would have been really illegal in MJ's day.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 01:08 AM
On a bad note, Harden really needs to hit the track/weight room. Hes the only players whos nipples I can see through a jersey.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 01:34 AM
Win or lose, Im liking how the Clips competed tonight. Bench is still awful but they are giving it everything they got.

Tony_Starks
02-12-2015, 01:34 AM
It is mind boggling that big baby can still be this fat. They have put weight clauses in his contracts, the whole nine. He's always going to be big but damn he could add a few extra years to his career if he would shape up...

tredigs
02-12-2015, 01:48 AM
lmao - nice D Harden... not his best game. Getting outplayed by Reddick on both ends.

tredigs
02-12-2015, 02:10 AM
Haha wow this rim hates Harden. Just swish it like that Splash Bro's and he won't have this issue : P

DillyDill
02-12-2015, 02:15 AM
Wow another 20-20 for DJ that's insane

Tony_Starks
02-12-2015, 02:16 AM
Good lookin out by CP3 for that last rebound for DJ. That's when you just turn to your teammate and say MY n........!

Chronz
02-12-2015, 02:21 AM
Haha wow this rim hates Harden. Just swish it like that Splash Bro's and he won't have this issue : P

He got the Curry treatment tonight tho and he doesn't have a splash bro to make us pay dearly.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 02:22 AM
Good lookin out by CP3 for that last rebound for DJ. That's when you just turn to your teammate and say MY n........!
Do we look like a team that has chemistry issues? I swear some people need to drop the seat psychology because I see a team that plays together.

jerellh528
02-12-2015, 02:27 AM
Crazy how much talent is on the cavs, they're going to be crazy if they put it all together. just tonite points only:

Mozgov 20
James 18
Thompson 17
Irving 15
Shumpert 13
Love 12
Smith 10

DillyDill
02-12-2015, 02:29 AM
Good lookin out by CP3 for that last rebound for DJ. That's when you just turn to your teammate and say MY n........!
Lol yea that was classy of him

tredigs
02-12-2015, 02:35 AM
He got the Curry treatment tonight tho and he doesn't have a splash bro to make us pay dearly.

Some of those late ones were wide open looks on broken plays, but early he was getting hounded f'sure.

Rox shot 9 for 45 from three... Mother of God. Yeah, not a Splash Bro in sight in this one.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 02:35 AM
Crazy how much talent is on the cavs, they're going to be crazy if they put it all together. just tonite points only:

Mozgov 20
James 18
Thompson 17
Irving 15
Shumpert 13
Love 12
Smith 10

Crazy? Were you one of those guys who thought they would continue to struggle?

Its all falling into plan for them, even during their struggles, their main lineup was among the best in the league but its great how reinvigorated Smith and Shumpert have been (on both ends), Mozgov has never played better either, he and Bron have an understanding on floor balance already. A stark contrast from seeing Josh Smith needing direction from Harden on what do to while the play is in live action lol...

Any word on Love's eye injury?

Chronz
02-12-2015, 02:40 AM
Some of those late ones were wide open looks on broken plays, but early he was getting hounded f'sure.

Rox shot 9 for 45 from three... Mother of God. Yeah, not a Splash Bro in sight in this one.

Agreed, but the pressure of producing mounts when your first open shots come that late in the game. Aside from lacking in height, this is typically why we suck at rebounding, we overload iso-guys like crazy when we're at our best. Smart passing teams can take advantage (which the Rox were doing a decent job of doing) but its not like the VDN days where we over played the passing lane alongside the scramble, everyone rotates for each other. Hopefully we use the next stretch run to reassert their defensive prowess.

Tony_Starks
02-12-2015, 02:49 AM
Good lookin out by CP3 for that last rebound for DJ. That's when you just turn to your teammate and say MY n........!
Do we look like a team that has chemistry issues? I swear some people need to drop the seat psychology because I see a team that plays together.

Why so serious? I'm saying he hooked his boy up, implying they obviously get along.....

goingfor28
02-12-2015, 02:53 AM
Dj w 3 20/20 games in his last 6. Not bad. Need to keep that up w Blake out and continue when he comes back. 51/47 over his last 2 games

Saddletramp
02-12-2015, 04:32 AM
He got the Curry treatment tonight tho and he doesn't have a splash bro to make us pay dearly.

Yeah, he had no one to bail him out. If Harden has an off game, they're more than likely toast, especially against one of the top teams.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 05:04 AM
Why so serious? I'm saying he hooked his boy up, implying they obviously get along.....

I know, I'm talking about other media outlets who don't recognize that sort of camaraderie. I was surprised that rebound counted tho. How good of the home scorekeepers

kdspurman
02-12-2015, 08:22 AM
They suck compared to what they were last year and I think that's what matters. They are not a THREAT to anyone. Let's be honest here. They went from being the second best team to barely a top 20 team. All that mainly because of LeBron. Their inconsistencies and flaws are showing more than ever with him gone. leBron just covered so much for that team. He was their rebounder, passer, scorer, and defender. Their rebounder is Bosh -- who isn't a good rebounder. Whiteside just came into the equation so I don't want to include him for now. Their passer doesn't draw attention to anything so the passes aren't as open. The scoring is completely gone. Defender in Deng but that's pretty much it. When you think of who did what, James was that guy for Miami.


Its by and large the primary factor. Wade had trouble with his availability when Bron was carrying the load, why would increasing Wade's role help in that regard? He left a better team than the one that was left in Cleveland but its not by much, especially with the revelation that Whiteside has become (whom you neglected to mention).

I have no doubt if Bron was still in Miami they would be competing for the first seed. Simply because it would have meant Pau is on the team as well and they would have great familiarity with each other.

I just don't think they are 8 games under 500 if they don't have all the injuries they've had. I'm not saying theyd be contenders, just saying they're not as bad as their record shows. Idk how many different ways to say it lol. I think they're a middle of the pack-lower seed ECF team. I know Lebron leaving took them out of contender status of course.

and I didn't mention whiteside cause I felt he came on a little later in the season. I was going based off what they came into the season with.

Vee-Rex
02-12-2015, 10:28 AM
Crazy? Were you one of those guys who thought they would continue to struggle?

Its all falling into plan for them, even during their struggles, their main lineup was among the best in the league but its great how reinvigorated Smith and Shumpert have been (on both ends), Mozgov has never played better either, he and Bron have an understanding on floor balance already. A stark contrast from seeing Josh Smith needing direction from Harden on what do to while the play is in live action lol...

Any word on Love's eye injury?

It's just a bruise. He'll be evaluated today and they'll determine whether or not he play against Chicago tonight.

Chronz
02-12-2015, 01:46 PM
I just don't think they are 8 games under 500 if they don't have all the injuries they've had. I'm not saying theyd be contenders, just saying they're not as bad as their record shows. Idk how many different ways to say it lol. I think they're a middle of the pack-lower seed ECF team. I know Lebron leaving took them out of contender status of course.
My point entirely is that you cant just presume pristine health from a guy who struggled with his availability even when Bron was carrying the load for him. I expected them to hover around .500, abit more if they were granted the unfair advantage of being healthy (while everyone else deals with their injuries) but thats not exactly a ringing endorsement. They honestly havent been that good even with Bosh-Wade on the court. They have a new Big3 now and when Wade gets back they will make a run but middle of the pack contender sounds about right. In the East thats pretty vague tho. Like right now they have one of the worst efficiency differentials in the league so they've actually overachieved abit. Granting them the advantage of being fully healthy, where would you rank them among the East. I think a level below the Bucks, which would make them about a 7th seed sounds about fair.


and I didn't mention whiteside cause I felt he came on a little later in the season. I was going based off what they came into the season with.

We have the gift of hindsight. The fact that they got a monster this productive and added Deng to a team that really only lost Bron and is still this bad, shows how big of a gap he left in that *****.

kdspurman
02-12-2015, 02:28 PM
My point entirely is that you cant just presume pristine health from a guy who struggled with his availability even when Bron was carrying the load for him. I expected them to hover around .500, abit more if they were granted the unfair advantage of being healthy (while everyone else deals with their injuries) but thats not exactly a ringing endorsement. They honestly havent been that good even with Bosh-Wade on the court. They have a new Big3 now and when Wade gets back they will make a run but middle of the pack contender sounds about right. In the East thats pretty vague tho. Like right now they have one of the worst efficiency differentials in the league so they've actually overachieved abit. Granting them the advantage of being fully healthy, where would you rank them among the East. I think a level below the Bucks, which would make them about a 7th seed sounds about fair.


We have the gift of hindsight. The fact that they got a monster this productive and added Deng to a team that really only lost Bron and is still this bad, shows how big of a gap he left in that *****.


I agree with that. Probably about 7th (which is what they are now) but with a better record than what they have now. & Idk, I have a hard time saying at team is so bad when they've had so much issues with health. I know Wade has battled injury issues, and banking on him to play even 75% of the season is a stretch these days. But it's been other guys too.

IKnowHoops
02-12-2015, 02:38 PM
Crazy how much talent is on the cavs, they're going to be crazy if they put it all together. just tonite points only:

Mozgov 20
James 18
Thompson 17
Irving 15
Shumpert 13
Love 12
Smith 10

Welcome to the party. Its almost over but there are still a few bottles of water in the fridge if your thirsty.

Vampirate
02-12-2015, 09:26 PM
It looks like the Cleveland-Chicago game is going to be the best game today.

FlashBolt
02-12-2015, 09:45 PM
Lebron is just shooting his team out of the game. This guy needs to learn to pass.

goingfor28
02-12-2015, 10:09 PM
It looks like the Cleveland-Chicago game is going to be the best game today.

lol

tredigs
02-12-2015, 10:23 PM
Lebron is just shooting his team out of the game. This guy needs to learn to pass.

Can't watch the game yet, but sarcasm I take it? Just looking at the #'s though he's taken 12 attempts with 1 assist and they cut their deficit with him sitting.

archdevil84
02-12-2015, 10:32 PM
Can't watch the game yet, but sarcasm I take it? Just looking at the #'s though he's taken 12 attempts with 1 assist and they cut their deficit with him sitting.

it was mostly jumpshots in the second quarter. he was very agressive taking it to the basket in the first

ChI_ShIzzLe
02-12-2015, 10:43 PM
Not watching the game but looks like D-Rose is taking Kyrie to the cleaners.

tredigs
02-12-2015, 10:49 PM
Damn, low TO game. LeBron has as many as every other player in the game combined.

DaBear
02-12-2015, 10:52 PM
Rose looks like MVP Rose tonight.

ChitownSports16
02-12-2015, 10:56 PM
Rose looks like MVP Rose tonight.

He always does vs Irving..

zn23
02-12-2015, 11:00 PM
Rose actually playing well for once.

ChitownSports16
02-12-2015, 11:10 PM
Snell is the next Butler.. Heard it here first.

DaBear
02-12-2015, 11:20 PM
Snell is the next Butler.. Heard it here first.

Too early to say that, but it's a possibility.

Silent
02-12-2015, 11:24 PM
Snell is the next Butler.. Heard it here first.

i been saying that all summer lg and i got laughed at

DillyDill
02-12-2015, 11:24 PM
Snell is the next Butler.. Heard it here first.
I was thinking Bron would of had a feel day with no Jimmy but Snell really stepped up bigtime didn't see that happening

DaBear
02-12-2015, 11:25 PM
Tristan Thompson has got away with so many fouls in the paint today.

northsider
02-12-2015, 11:27 PM
Snell has SOME similarities but, I don't see another Jimmy esque player. He's a good defender with some size who can space the floor and isn't completely ball handling handicap. He does not however have nowhere near as good of driving skills as Jimmy does which really has elevated Jimmy's game.

ChitownSports16
02-12-2015, 11:35 PM
Snell has SOME similarities but, I don't see another Jimmy esque player. He's a good defender with some size who can space the floor and isn't completely ball handling handicap. He does not however have nowhere near as good of driving skills as Jimmy does which really has elevated Jimmy's game.

Give him the rest of the season.. Next season he will be the next jimmy Buckets. Jimmy never had his driving skills at first either. It all starts with confidence which Snell is starting to get. We've as bulls fans have seen some flashes that the kid can ball.

Vee-Rex
02-12-2015, 11:38 PM
Tristan Thompson gets so many stupid fouls it's ridiculous. Dude's got a low bb iq. Irving stunk and lbj didn't impress. Good win by the Bulls without Butler. Guess we'll see you guys in Cleveland next time.

GottaLoveCubs
02-12-2015, 11:42 PM
If the standings somehow finish like this, Cleveland might have a tough time getting out of the first round! Washington with their size is no joke. I saw it first hand as a Bulls fan last year.

northsider
02-12-2015, 11:46 PM
Give him the rest of the season.. Next season he will be the next jimmy Buckets. Jimmy never had his driving skills at first either. It all starts with confidence which Snell is starting to get. We've as bulls fans have seen some flashes that the kid can ball.

That's the thing you knew out the gate Jimmy could be a slasher and a guy who goes to the line allot with his ability to draw contact. You could see it in spurts he had driving ability. Snell plays similar to Deng in that respect. Deng could slash but, it certainly wasn't the prettiest sight (often dribbled way to high or too long) where as Jimmy has that ability to control body movement and a far better handler when taking it in.

Snell is to me your prototypical floor spacing wing defender. He just really really really reminds me of Deng (not a bad thing BTW).

zn23
02-12-2015, 11:50 PM
Mozgov is too valuable to the Cavs to get 5 fouls in 15 minutes of play. They he needs to stay on the court. Especially without Kevin Love tonight he can't pick up fouls the way he did. I thought of two of the foul calls on him were questionable.

Animosity
02-12-2015, 11:51 PM
Snell has SOME similarities but, I don't see another Jimmy esque player. He's a good defender with some size who can space the floor and isn't completely ball handling handicap. He does not however have nowhere near as good of driving skills as Jimmy does which really has elevated Jimmy's game.

They Have different styles but Snell is a great slasher from the wing and cutter on the base line . if he has a problem it is finishing after contact but he is literally as thin as a coat hanger. Tony moves better with out the ball but can't create his own. Defensively he he will need to get a bit more muscle to not get pushed around by bigger guys. Butler can create his own shot now and change shots when guarding. There are differences but the players are complementary and should be a nice duo when Snell fully comes into his own. Until then lets enjoy this show he is putting on.

GottaLoveCubs
02-13-2015, 12:01 AM
Mozgov is too valuable to the Cavs to get 5 fouls in 15 minutes of play. They he needs to stay on the court. Especially without Kevin Love tonight he can't pick up fouls the way he did. I thought of two of the foul calls on him were questionable.

Well there should have been 2 others that weren't called on him so it evened out I guess.

IversonIsKrazy
02-13-2015, 03:26 AM
It was great to see Rose play like that today, hope he keeps it up. As for Snell, when he first got drafted, I always thought he had the tools to be more like Kawhi Leonard, his game reminds me a bit of his, just needs to beef up and be more consistent.

Kaner
02-13-2015, 03:27 AM
Rose actually playing well for once.

http://prosportsdaily.sportsdirectinc.com/basketball/nba-boxscores.aspx?page=/data/NBA/results/2014-2015/boxscore883475.html

:eyebrow:

ClutchTime
02-13-2015, 10:38 AM
Rose is back to his MVP style of play.

Ezio
02-13-2015, 11:39 AM
Rose is back to his MVP style of play.

Not many dumb 3's and playing P&R with Pau instead of ISO can easily make him look better.