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IKnowHoops
01-26-2015, 06:25 PM
And another one.

Player Times Won Pos Height Weight Pre-Draft Team
LeBron James 48 F 6-8 250 St. Vincent St. Mary High School (Ohio)
Kobe Bryant 33 SG 6-6 205 Lower Merion High School (Pennsylvania)
Michael Jordan 25 SG 6-6 215 North Carolina
Allen Iverson 23 G 6-0 165 Georgetown
Karl Malone 23 PF 6-9 265 Louisiana Tech
Tim Duncan 22 FC 6-11 250 Wake Forest
Kevin Garnett 20 PF 6-11 253 Farragut Career Academy (Illinois)
Shaquille O'Neal 20 C 7-1 325 LSU
Kevin Durant 19 SF 6-9 240 Texas
Carmelo Anthony 18 F 6-8 235 Syracuse
Dwight Howard 18 C 6-11 265 Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy (Georgia)
Magic Johnson 18 PG 6-9 255 Michigan State
Jason Kidd 17 PG 6-4 210 California
Paul Pierce 17 SF 6-7 235 Kansas
Dwyane Wade 17 SG 6-4 220 Marquette
Dirk Nowitzki 16 PF 7-0 245 DJK Würzburg (Germany)
Larry Bird 15 SF 6-9 220 Indiana State
David Robinson 15 C 7-1 250 Navy
Patrick Ewing 12 C 7-0 240 Georgetown
Tracy McGrady 12 GF 6-8 210 Mt. Zion Christian Academy (North Carolina)
Hakeem Olajuwon 12 C 7-0 255 Houston
Charles Barkley 11 PF 6-6 252 Auburn
Vince Carter 11 SF 6-6 220 North Carolina
Clyde Drexler 11 SG 6-7 210 Houston
Chris Paul 10 PG 6-0 175 Wake Forest

archdevil84
01-26-2015, 07:03 PM
thats a lot of times. how much player of the month does he has though?

L8kers4life
01-26-2015, 07:08 PM
And another one.


That's dope, I hope he wins it this week also

More-Than-Most
01-26-2015, 07:21 PM
but he is done doh

nickdymez
01-26-2015, 07:39 PM
Awesome

andy2518
01-26-2015, 08:01 PM
How many times did Jordan win it.

cmellofan15
01-26-2015, 11:55 PM
working on a calendar year

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 05:36 AM
Player Times Won Pos Height Weight Pre-Draft Team
LeBron James 48 F 6-8 250 St. Vincent St. Mary High School (Ohio)
Kobe Bryant 33 SG 6-6 205 Lower Merion High School (Pennsylvania)
Michael Jordan 25 SG 6-6 215 North Carolina
Allen Iverson 23 G 6-0 165 Georgetown
Karl Malone 23 PF 6-9 265 Louisiana Tech
Tim Duncan 22 FC 6-11 250 Wake Forest
Kevin Garnett 20 PF 6-11 253 Farragut Career Academy (Illinois)
Shaquille O'Neal 20 C 7-1 325 LSU
Kevin Durant 19 SF 6-9 240 Texas
Carmelo Anthony 18 F 6-8 235 Syracuse
Dwight Howard 18 C 6-11 265 Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy (Georgia)
Magic Johnson 18 PG 6-9 255 Michigan State
Jason Kidd 17 PG 6-4 210 California
Paul Pierce 17 SF 6-7 235 Kansas
Dwyane Wade 17 SG 6-4 220 Marquette
Dirk Nowitzki 16 PF 7-0 245 DJK Würzburg (Germany)
Larry Bird 15 SF 6-9 220 Indiana State
David Robinson 15 C 7-1 250 Navy
Patrick Ewing 12 C 7-0 240 Georgetown
Tracy McGrady 12 GF 6-8 210 Mt. Zion Christian Academy (North Carolina)
Hakeem Olajuwon 12 C 7-0 255 Houston
Charles Barkley 11 PF 6-6 252 Auburn
Vince Carter 11 SF 6-6 220 North Carolina
Clyde Drexler 11 SG 6-7 210 Houston
Chris Paul 10 PG 6-0 175 Wake Forest
Chris Bosh 9 PF 6-11 235 Georgia Tech
Dikembe Mutombo 9 C 7-2 260 Georgetown
Chris Webber 9 F-C 6-9 245 Michigan
Dominique Wilkins 9 SF 6-7 200 Georgia
LaMarcus Aldridge 8 FC 6-11 260 Texas
Steve Nash 8 G 6-3 178 Santa Clara
Tony Parker 8 G 6-2 185 Paris Basket Racing (France)
Amar'e Stoudemire 8 FC 6-11 245 Cypress Creek High School (Florida)
Russell Westbrook 8 G 6-3 200 UCLA
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 7 C 7-2 225 UCLA
Ray Allen 7 SG 6-5 205 Connecticut
Gilbert Arenas 7 G 6-3 191 Arizona
Alex English 7 SF 6-7 190 South Carolina
Pau Gasol 7 FC 7-0 250 FC Barcelona Regal (Spain)
James Harden 7 SG 6-5 220 Arizona State
Al Jefferson 7 FC 6-10 289 Prentiss High School (Mississippi)
Joe Johnson 7 SG 6-7 240 Arkansas
Moses Malone 7 C 6-10 215 Petersburg High School (Virginia)
Stephon Marbury 7 G 6-2 180 Georgia Tech
Chauncey Billups 6 G 6-3 210 Colorado
Carlos Boozer 6 PF 6-9 266 Duke
Baron Davis 6 G 6-3 215 UCLA
Tim Hardaway 6 PG 6-0 175 UTEP
Grant Hill 6 SF 6-8 225 Duke
Bernard King 6 SF 6-7 205 Tennessee
Shawn Marion 6 F 6-7 228 UNLV
Alonzo Mourning6 C 6-10 240 Georgetown
John Stockton 6 PG 6-1 170 Gonzaga
Isiah Thomas 6 PG 6-1 180 Indiana
Yao Ming 6 C 7-6 310 Shanghai Dongfang (China)
Elton Brand 5 PF 6-9 254 Duke
Adrian Dantley 5 SF 6-5 208 Notre Dame
Monta Ellis 5 G 6-3 185 Lanier High School (Mississippi)
Blake Griffin 5 PF 6-10 251 Oklahoma
Kevin Johnson 5 PG 6-1 180 California
Shawn Kemp 5 C 6-10 280 Trinity Valley CC
Larry Nance 5 PF 6-10 205 Clemson
Scottie Pippen 5 SF 6-8 228 Central Arkansas
Derrick Rose 5 PG 6-3 190 Memphis
Brandon Roy 5 G 6-6 211 Washington
Ben Wallace 5 FC 6-9 240 Virginia Union
Gerald Wallace 5 F 6-7 220 Alabama
Steve Francis 4 G 6-3 195 Maryland

http://basketball.******.com/nba/awards/by_type/Player-Of-The-Week/30

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 05:51 AM
How many times did Jordan win it.

Player Times Won Pos Height Weight Pre-Draft Team
LeBron James 48 F 6-8 250 St. Vincent St. Mary High School (Ohio)
Kobe Bryant 33 SG 6-6 205 Lower Merion High School (Pennsylvania)
Michael Jordan 25 SG 6-6 215 North Carolina

He's two away from doubling Jordan. By the end of his career, he will most likely have more than double the award of number two on this list which is the epitome of dominace.

If he just broke the record, than that would mean that someone had 47. Maybe this list is from 1970 and up or something. I assume Wilt must of had 47, but regardless, since whatever year this is being started from, Bron is destroying the field.

http://basketball.******.com/nba/awards/by_type/Player-Of-The-Week/30

mngopher35
01-27-2015, 06:08 AM
Just an fyi you can't really compare him to players from the past in this award, they didn't separate it by conference until like 2001-2002.

PurpleLynch
01-27-2015, 07:46 AM
Just an fyi you can't really compare him to players from the past in this award, they didn't separate it by conference until like 2001-2002.

This. Surely a great achievment,but before 2001-2002 it was much more difficult to get. Plus this award was born in 1979-1980(first winner Dr.J),so a lot of players are cut out(Wilt,Russell,Thurmond,Walton,West,Frazier etc etc).

The record was Kobe with 33. Lebron now is first.

PurpleLynch
01-27-2015, 07:50 AM
Player Times Won Pos Height Weight Pre-Draft Team
LeBron James 48 F 6-8 250 St. Vincent St. Mary High School (Ohio)
Kobe Bryant 33 SG 6-6 205 Lower Merion High School (Pennsylvania)
Michael Jordan 25 SG 6-6 215 North Carolina

He's two away from doubling Jordan. By the end of his career, he will most likely have more than double the award of number two on this list which is the epitome of dominace.

If he just broke the record, than that would mean that someone had 47. Maybe this list is from 1970 and up or something. I assume Wilt must of had 47, but regardless, since whatever year this is being started from, Bron is destroying the field.

http://basketball.******.com/nba/awards/by_type/Player-Of-The-Week/30

If this award was given before 1979-1980 I could agree with you. But the fact that a lot of players had monster seasons before 1979-1980 tarnish the fact that he's the epitome of dominance compared to Jordan.
If player of the week was separated when MJ played,you can bet that he would win every week the award in the EC.(Wilt would probably have like 100 of this awards ahah).

Burkey3472
01-27-2015, 09:39 AM
I think he might make it in this league.

valade16
01-27-2015, 09:50 AM
If this award was given before 1979-1980 I could agree with you. But the fact that a lot of players had monster seasons before 1979-1980 tarnish the fact that he's the epitome of dominance compared to Jordan.
If player of the week was separated when MJ played,you can bet that he would win every week the award in the EC.(Wilt would probably have like 100 of this awards ahah).

I was gonna say. I'm pretty sure the epitome of dominance was winning 6 titles in 8 seasons. Or having the highest PPG in 10 of 11 seasons. Or having the highest PER in 7 straight seasons (and the highest all-time). Or having the highest WS/48 in 8 of 9 seasons.

Or pretty much anything Jordan did.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 10:44 AM
Like a couple have mentioned, the old award only goes from 1980 to 2002, where just one player a week wins it.

The new awards from that point forward give a player from each conference a chance to win it. Seeing as Lebron is as dominant as he is and plays in a conference so much more devoid of the games best players, this should not come as much of a shock. In the old format that a guy like Jordan played in for example, Lebron would not have won the award this week. Klay Thompson - who won the West award - would have more than likely taken it overall.

So, a nice accomplishment - but a conveniently massive couple of caveats were left out.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 10:47 AM
Gives him bragging rights over Pierce, I guess.

FlashBolt
01-27-2015, 01:23 PM
The results are surely misconstrued, but still, 48 times is INSANE. That means James has a 1/4 chance in winning this every week. Jordan no doubt would be much higher but wow.

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 02:25 PM
Like a couple have mentioned, the old award only goes from 1980 to 2002, where just one player a week wins it.

The new awards from that point forward give a player from each conference a chance to win it. Seeing as Lebron is as dominant as he is and plays in a conference so much more devoid of the games best players, this should not come as much of a shock. In the old format that a guy like Jordan played in for example, Lebron would not have won the award this week. Klay Thompson - who won the West award - would have more than likely taken it overall.

So, a nice accomplishment - but a conveniently massive couple of caveats were left out.

Ahhh, I see, so maybe doubling Jordan means equalling Jordan. I guess there really is no way to measure it for sure. Guess this stat can only be measured against those from 2002 and up

FlashBolt
01-27-2015, 02:31 PM
Ahhh, I see, so maybe doubling Jordan means equalling Jordan. I guess there really is no way to measure it for sure. Guess this stat can only be measured against those from 2002 and up

There is no way Jordan just ends up with just 50, though. He had games where he scored 40 back to back frequently. Hard to say but it wouldn't be surprising to me if he had 100.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 02:44 PM
Ahhh, I see, so maybe doubling Jordan means equalling Jordan. I guess there really is no way to measure it for sure. Guess this stat can only be measured against those from 2002 and up

Well, Lebron also plays in the much easier conference, and it's been that way his entire tenure in the NBA. That really can't go overlooked when this is a conference award. The vast majority of the leagues best players (and coincidentally their weekly performances) stem from the West. Actually, I just made an "All-NBA All Star Team" thread, and I think Lebron's name was the only Eastern Conference player mentioned by somebody as a top 12 guy in the league. That speaks volumes.

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 03:11 PM
They need to figure out who the NBA player of the week was each time. Just compare Bron to the Western conference player that week and see who wins. I wouldn't be surprised if he still beat Mike, wouldn't be surprised if he didn't.

valade16
01-27-2015, 03:22 PM
Well, Lebron also plays in the much easier conference, and it's been that way his entire tenure in the NBA. That really can't go overlooked when this is a conference award. The vast majority of the leagues best players (and coincidentally their weekly performances) stem from the West. Actually, I just made an "All-NBA All Star Team" thread, and I think Lebron's name was the only Eastern Conference player mentioned by somebody as a top 12 guy in the league. That speaks volumes.

Not somebody. I just looked at the thread. Every person except 1 had Bron as the only Eastern player mentioned. The only outlier was a guy who put Pau on his.

I had never considered that before, but it's pretty obvious the West is way more loaded in terms of top end talent.

Hawkeye15
01-27-2015, 03:24 PM
Just an fyi you can't really compare him to players from the past in this award, they didn't separate it by conference until like 2001-2002.

yep

lol, please
01-27-2015, 04:21 PM
Like a couple have mentioned, the old award only goes from 1980 to 2002, where just one player a week wins it.

The new awards from that point forward give a player from each conference a chance to win it. Seeing as Lebron is as dominant as he is and plays in a conference so much more devoid of the games best players, this should not come as much of a shock. In the old format that a guy like Jordan played in for example, Lebron would not have won the award this week. Klay Thompson - who won the West award - would have more than likely taken it overall.

So, a nice accomplishment - but a conveniently massive couple of caveats were left out.

Good post. Well said.

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 05:23 PM
Tell me this? If Lebron is just breaking the record with 48, then who had 47? Do they have them broken down for east and west even in Jordan's era too?

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 05:26 PM
Tell me this? If Lebron is just breaking the record with 48, then who had 47? Do they have them broken down for east and west even in Jordan's era too?

OK looks like he just upped his record maybe. he didn't just set a new one.

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 05:30 PM
OK looks like he just upped his record maybe. he didn't just set a new one.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=339161

Although this article makes it seem like he just set the record with 48. Can anyone shed light on this?

PurpleLynch
01-27-2015, 05:50 PM
Tell me this? If Lebron is just breaking the record with 48, then who had 47? Do they have them broken down for east and west even in Jordan's era too?

No one had 47. No one paid attention to these awards,so they just discovered now that he has a ****ton of them.
Kobe had the previous record with 33. And that's another reason why these awards can't prove a lot.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 05:54 PM
There is no way he just broke the record of someone else. He plays in the East in a time where you can win it for your own conference and is Lebron James. The deck is just slightly stacked in his favor.

Think about young MJ. His competition for player of the Week was Bird/Magic/Hakeem/Barkley along with Stockton/Malone/D-Rob/Drexler/Zeke/Ewing, etc and then in his 30's against many of those same names along with young Shaq/Penny/Grant Hill/J-Kidd/AI/C-Webb, etc etc. Also 2x as many players who could just have a breakout week.

Lebron's biggest mainstay competition was Pierce/Wade/Howard, with a large fall off after that. Few years of Melo/KG.

The season MVP's or All NBA teams are a better gauge of comparison as far as singular dominance of peers is concerned (at least as it's perceived by most).

FraziersKnicks
01-27-2015, 06:16 PM
People are always trying to discredit the guy :laugh2:

Can you blame him for the competition he has to go up against? He's won the award nearly 50 times which is incredible. Stop trying to compare it to MJ, Wilt etc. Take it for what it is with the context (the award not being divided by conference until 2001) and give the man props.

Another record that probably won't be broken for a very long time.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 06:20 PM
People are always trying to discredit the guy :laugh2:

Can you blame him for the competition he has to go up against? He's won the award nearly 50 times which is incredible. Stop trying to compare it to MJ, Wilt etc. Take it for what it is with the context (the award not being divided by conference until 2001) and give the man props.

Another record that probably won't be broken for a very long time.

I truly can't stand posts like this. "Just give him props and move on mann".

No thanks. Instead, I'll give him props while also bringing to light the context of the award and help educate the OP on some things he did not previously realize. You know, have a discussion...on the forum we post on...?

tredigs
01-27-2015, 06:23 PM
And yes, it's probably fair that Lebron assumes a portion of the blame for the competition he goes against. He's switched teams twice and chose the East both times.

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 06:38 PM
And yes, it's probably fair that Lebron assumes a portion of the blame for the competition he goes against. He's switched teams twice and chose the East both times.

No. Was it Jordan"s fault he only needed 47 wins for HCA. Dude I am a homer. You need to come to terms with being a hater. Has the east ever been weaker than that? When is the last time HCA could be accomplished on 47 wins. Waiting to hear this terrible excuse your about to muster.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 06:56 PM
No. Was it Jordan"s fault he only needed 47 wins for HCA. Dude I am a homer. You need to come to terms with being a hater. Has the east ever been weaker than that? When is the last time HCA could be accomplished on 47 wins. Waiting to hear this terrible excuse your about to muster.

Shots fired!

#1 - This is funny, because I'm not exactly sure you understand what you're trying to argue?

#2 - What does MJ's conference have to do with winning player of the week awards? The whole point is that he does not go against the players in his conference, he (and that was just one example - this goes for every player between 1980-2002 - when it was a different award) went against the players of the entire league. I was pointing out that not only did Lebron only have to go against half the league - but by far the less talented half (team wise and top end talent wise).

#3 - The answer to your question is The Hawks in 2009. And in 2008 Cleveland retained HCA with 45 wins. In 2007? Miami was in it on their home floor with 45 wins. The last time an Eastern Conference 3 seed has won 50 or more games? 2011.

I'm not a "hater", I'm just here to bring delusion back to reality.

:knockout:

TheNumber37
01-27-2015, 07:02 PM
He should considering he has 5 mvp. This award is playing well over 3 or 4 games

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 07:25 PM
Shots fired!

#1 - This is funny, because I'm not exactly sure you understand what you're trying to argue?

#2 - What does MJ's conference have to do with winning player of the week awards? The whole point is that he does not go against the players in his conference, he (and that was just one example - this goes for every player between 1980-2002 - when it was a different award) went against the players of the entire league. I was pointing out that not only did Lebron only have to go against half the league - but by far the less talented half (team wise and top end talent wise).

#3 - The answer to your question is The Hawks in 2009. And in 2008 Cleveland retained HCA with 45 wins. In 2007? Miami was in it on their home floor with 45 wins. The last time an Eastern Conference 3 seed has won 50 or more games? 2011.

I'm not a "hater", I'm just here to bring delusion back to reality.

:knockout:

I'm actually taking out a 3 years of hate you have for Lebron in one thread. All the times you have pissed on things Lebron has done do to a weak conference though Jordan perhaps played in a weaker eastern conference. Yes you are a hater actually.

lol, please
01-27-2015, 08:20 PM
I truly can't stand posts like this. "Just give him props and move on mann".

No thanks. Instead, I'll give him props while also bringing to light the context of the award and help educate the OP on some things he did not previously realize. You know, have a discussion...on the forum we post on...?
Tell these cats tredigs! :guns:

Drop cold truths on these fanboys. Context is everything.

IKnowHoops
01-27-2015, 08:29 PM
People are always trying to discredit the guy :laugh2:

Can you blame him for the competition he has to go up against? He's won the award nearly 50 times which is incredible. Stop trying to compare it to MJ, Wilt etc. Take it for what it is with the context (the award not being divided by conference until 2001) and give the man props.

Another record that probably won't be broken for a very long time.

Tre don't enter a Lebron thread unless to discredit. Never.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 08:47 PM
I'm actually taking out a 3 years of hate you have for Lebron in one thread. All the times you have pissed on things Lebron has done do to a weak conference though Jordan perhaps played in a weaker eastern conference. Yes you are a hater actually.

I think you just perceive the totality of all the different threads where I've been bringing the Lebron hyperbole back down to earth as "hate", because you're a massive fanboy. It all started with you when I said KD was playing at an MVP level and better during the regular season in the 1st half of 2012 than Lebron (then the Heat went Nova for like 26 straight wins and ended that debate, where I stated the MVP should rightfully be Lebron's). You just can't handle any dialogue that goes against your hero man, and unfortunately for you I will bring it if I think something seems too hyperbolic, or off base, or in this case completely out of context.

As far as MJ playing in a weaker conference? Lmao -- that's a pretty damn tough sell. Let's see some of the teams Jordan had to or would have had to try to go through in the playoffs before reaching the finals.

* The Bird/McHale/Parish Celtics from Jordan's rookie year in 1985 until 1992. One of the greatest dynasty teams in NBA history (bad start for Bron's case).

* The kryptonite of Bird's Celtics, the Bad Boy Pistons. Also a legendarily tough team with multiple titles and a personal affinity for trying to absolutely destroy Jordan any chance they could. That went on from about '86 to 1993.

* You had the Dominique/Doc Rivers/Kevin Willis or Moses Malone Hawks in the 80's. Think of them as the 2013 Knicks when they were good, but with better D and for a much longer stint.

* Ewing's Knicks from the late 80's to late 90's were always there winning 47-60 games and bringing the ridiculously tough D. Had Oakley and Mark Jackson. Later on Anthony Mason and John Starks. They were good.

* Reggie/Rik Smits/Mark Jackson's Pacers. Not a great team, but definitely not a pushover playoff squad either. They were there all of the 90's.

* Mark Price/Brad Daugherty Cavs in the 90's. That's an underrated 55+ win team multiple years.

* Shaq + Penny's Magic in the late 90's for a few years? Beasts.

Long story short, he faced talent in his own conference. I'd argue at a much greater level than what Lebron does.

FlashBolt
01-27-2015, 08:50 PM
Tre don't enter a Lebron thread unless to discredit. Never.

How is it discredit? He's acknowledging that winning it 48 times is a feat in itself but that it is misconstrued due to this award being completely different back then.

Jeffy25
01-27-2015, 09:11 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pow.html

Though, I can't understand how he has won it that many times over guys like Jordan and Shaq

Has the criteria for the award changed or something?

FlashBolt
01-27-2015, 09:14 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pow.html

Though, I can't understand how he has won it that many times over guys like Jordan and Shaq

Has the criteria for the award changed or something?

The award used to be for the entire league and not conference divided. Meaning, Jordan had to compete with the West as well for the award.

Jeffy25
01-27-2015, 09:15 PM
thats a lot of times. how much player of the month does he has though?

I count 27 times

Jordan 16 times, Kobe 17 times, Shaq 12, Iverson 4 times, Malone 11 times, Duncan 3 times, Magic 6 times, Durant 11 times, Garnett 9 times, Melo 5 times, Dwight 6 times, Kidd 3 times, Pierce 4 times (don't feel like counting any others)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pom.html

Jeffy25
01-27-2015, 09:18 PM
The award used to be for the entire league and not conference divided. Meaning, Jordan had to compete with the West as well for the award.

Ah, so that means we can probably say half as many?

That's still 24 times give or take a few, and 13-14 times for player of the month

Looks like they started this in 01-02?

So I would assume we could split the times won from 01-02 in half and get a more accurate assessment?

PurpleLynch
01-27-2015, 09:21 PM
People are always trying to discredit the guy :laugh2:

Can you blame him for the competition he has to go up against? He's won the award nearly 50 times which is incredible. Stop trying to compare it to MJ, Wilt etc. Take it for what it is with the context (the award not being divided by conference until 2001) and give the man props.

Another record that probably won't be broken for a very long time.

We are ginving congratulations,but we also are contextualizing the award,rightfully so.

Is it this hard understanding that this award was harder to get before 2001 because conferences weren't separated?
Could you imagine the amount of awards players like Kareem,Wilt,Russell,Bird,Magic,Jordan,Dr.J etc could get if conferences were separated back then?

apocalypse15
01-27-2015, 09:22 PM
How long have they been actually tracking this "award"? Everybody in the NFL is so big on sacks but yet no players were given credit for a "sack" until the 1982 season.

Sorry it should be credit with the quotations not sack. Currently Strahan holds the single season record with 22.5, yet in 1967 Deacon Jones recorded 26 sacks in the season and in 1968 he also recorded 24 sacks. Also sacks have been recorded since 1961 but, no "credit" in the history books were given til 82'. I only looked up Deacon Jones because I read somewhere he came with the term sack so I am not sure if someone even surpassed him during the 61'-81' season.

Jeffy25
01-27-2015, 09:25 PM
And another one.

Player Times Won Pos Height Weight Pre-Draft Team
LeBron James 48 F 6-8 250 St. Vincent St. Mary High School (Ohio)
Kobe Bryant 33 SG 6-6 205 Lower Merion High School (Pennsylvania)
Michael Jordan 25 SG 6-6 215 North Carolina
Allen Iverson 23 G 6-0 165 Georgetown
Karl Malone 23 PF 6-9 265 Louisiana Tech
Tim Duncan 22 FC 6-11 250 Wake Forest
Kevin Garnett 20 PF 6-11 253 Farragut Career Academy (Illinois)
Shaquille O'Neal 20 C 7-1 325 LSU
Kevin Durant 19 SF 6-9 240 Texas
Carmelo Anthony 18 F 6-8 235 Syracuse
Dwight Howard 18 C 6-11 265 Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy (Georgia)
Magic Johnson 18 PG 6-9 255 Michigan State
Jason Kidd 17 PG 6-4 210 California
Paul Pierce 17 SF 6-7 235 Kansas
Dwyane Wade 17 SG 6-4 220 Marquette
Dirk Nowitzki 16 PF 7-0 245 DJK Würzburg (Germany)
Larry Bird 15 SF 6-9 220 Indiana State
David Robinson 15 C 7-1 250 Navy
Patrick Ewing 12 C 7-0 240 Georgetown
Tracy McGrady 12 GF 6-8 210 Mt. Zion Christian Academy (North Carolina)
Hakeem Olajuwon 12 C 7-0 255 Houston
Charles Barkley 11 PF 6-6 252 Auburn
Vince Carter 11 SF 6-6 220 North Carolina
Clyde Drexler 11 SG 6-7 210 Houston
Chris Paul 10 PG 6-0 175 Wake Forest

All 48 of LeBron's are from after 01-02 (obviously)

31 of Kobe's 33 are from 01-02 and after

All 25 of Jordan's 25 are from before


8 of Shaq's are from 01-02 and beyond

So if we take the assumption of half....

The leaderboard would show as follows

1. Jordan - 25
2. LeBron - 24
3. Malone - 23
4. Kobe - 18
4. Magic - 18
6. Shaq - 16
7. Bird - 15
7. Robinson - 15
9. Iverson - 13
9. Duncan - 13
11. Ewing - 12
11. Hakeem - 12
13. Barkley - 11
13. Clyde - 11
15. Garnett - 10

Give or take a few obviously

Jeffy25
01-27-2015, 09:26 PM
How long have they been actually tracking this "award"? Everybody in the NFL is so big on sacks but yet no players were given credit for a "sack" until the 1982 season.

79-80 season was the first year

apocalypse15
01-27-2015, 09:33 PM
79-80 season was the first year

So I don't see the big deal. Of course Jordan played within that era of it being recorded so it makes it seem so much more impressive but these are minimal awards and I doubt any players even care.

tredigs
01-27-2015, 09:34 PM
Ah, so that means we can probably say half as many?

That's still 24 times give or take a few, and 13-14 times for player of the month

Looks like they started this in 01-02?

So I would assume we could split the times won from 01-02 in half and get a more accurate assessment?
My argument is that you can't really just "half" it, given the massive talent disparity in the conferences through his time in the NBA. The West having Shaq and KG/McGrady his first few years, as well as Duncan/Dirk/Kobe/Melo/Yao/CP3, to nowadays them along with Durant/Westbrook/Curry/Cousins/ADavis/Griffin/LMA, etc etc. Can't really simply half it with such a huge talent disparity (for player of the week or month).

They're silly awards that nobody really cares about anyway, but we might as well get the context on point.

Jeffy25
01-27-2015, 09:36 PM
My argument is that you can't really just "half" it, given the massive talent disparity in the conferences through his time in the NBA. The West having Shaq and KG/McGrady his first few years, as well as Duncan/Dirk/Kobe/Melo/CP3, to nowadays them along with Durant/Westbrook/Curry/Cousins/ADavis/Griffin/LMA, etc etc. Can't really simply half it with such a huge talent disparity (for player of the week or month).

They're silly awards that nobody really cares about anyway, but we might as well get the context on point.

The thing is, he would be getting the award. Or maybe we can double what guys from the past could have.

This isn't a symbol of greatness or anything. It's just an award, they are fallible

Tony_Starks
01-27-2015, 09:46 PM
I mean who's his comp in the east?D Rose is still gimpy, Noah's out, George out, Rondo gone, Melos on the Titanic. So who's he battling John Wall? Kyie Irving? Wade or Bosh?

He could almost win the award by default....

FlashBolt
01-27-2015, 10:11 PM
With all due respect, when James won those player of the week awards, he had spectacular numbers. I don't think 30 would be farfetched. And since he will be competing against Kobe as well, he'd probably have the most regardless.

JordansBulls
01-27-2015, 10:24 PM
I mean who's his comp in the east?D Rose is still gimpy, Noah's out, George out, Rondo gone, Melos on the Titanic. So who's he battling John Wall? Kyie Irving? Wade or Bosh?

He could almost win the award by default....

The fact that guys like Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry won Player of the Month for the Conference should tell you the type of competition that is being dealt with here. By the time Lebron came up the other elites were already leaving there primes in Shaq, Duncan, KG, Tmac, Dirk to name a few. Imagine Lebron in a league like 1988 or 2003 with that many elite players in it.

lol, please
01-27-2015, 11:17 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pow.html

Though, I can't understand how he has won it that many times over guys like Jordan and Shaq

Has the criteria for the award changed or something?
Tredigs just answered this, look at the teams Jordans bulls competed against.

PurpleLynch
01-28-2015, 08:39 AM
So I don't see the big deal. Of course Jordan played within that era of it being recorded so it makes it seem so much more impressive but these are minimal awards and I doubt any players even care.

You nailed it.

valade16
01-28-2015, 10:06 AM
All 48 of LeBron's are from after 01-02 (obviously)

31 of Kobe's 33 are from 01-02 and after

All 25 of Jordan's 25 are from before


8 of Shaq's are from 01-02 and beyond

So if we take the assumption of half....

The leaderboard would show as follows

1. Jordan - 25
2. LeBron - 24
3. Malone - 23
4. Kobe - 18
4. Magic - 18
6. Shaq - 16
7. Bird - 15
7. Robinson - 15
9. Iverson - 13
9. Duncan - 13
11. Ewing - 12
11. Hakeem - 12
13. Barkley - 11
13. Clyde - 11
15. Garnett - 10

Give or take a few obviously

Here's the thing though if we're trying to say Jordan "has more" or is still "more impressive" given the context. LeBron has many, many years ahead of him. He will accumulate many more of these. I'm pretty sure even if they gave out the award to one player instead LeBron will end his career with more than Jordan.

But we'd expect that, Jordan had like 6 seasons in between his first and last where he did not play either because of injuries or retirements, those are a lot of opportunities to get these awards missed.

Jeffy25
01-28-2015, 10:08 AM
Here's the thing though if we're trying to say Jordan "has more" or is still "more impressive" given the context. LeBron has many, many years ahead of him. He will accumulate many more of these. I'm pretty sure even if they gave out the award to one player instead LeBron will end his career with more than Jordan.

But we'd expect that, Jordan had like 6 seasons in between his first and last where he did not play either because of injuries or retirements, those are a lot of opportunities to get these awards missed.

It's not unreasonable to think that LeBron's durability in the end could make him the goat one day. Depends of course, plenty of bball left in him at this point.

kdspurman
01-28-2015, 10:34 AM
My argument is that you can't really just "half" it, given the massive talent disparity in the conferences through his time in the NBA. The West having Shaq and KG/McGrady his first few years, as well as Duncan/Dirk/Kobe/Melo/Yao/CP3, to nowadays them along with Durant/Westbrook/Curry/Cousins/ADavis/Griffin/LMA, etc etc. Can't really simply half it with such a huge talent disparity (for player of the week or month).

They're silly awards that nobody really cares about anyway, but we might as well get the context on point.

Makes sense

InRoseWeTrust
01-28-2015, 10:37 AM
My take: LeBron James is really good at basketball.

lol, please
01-28-2015, 01:52 PM
My take: LeBron James is really good at basketball.
That's all fine and dandy, but I give more respect to someone who can play at an elite level in a more difficult era, among the likes of greats like shaq, bird, king Charles, Hakeem, etc.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 02:44 PM
That's all fine and dandy, but I give more respect to someone who can play at an elite level in a more difficult era, among the likes of greats like shaq, bird, king Charles, Hakeem, etc.

So you don't have any respect for Wilt then?

lol, please
01-28-2015, 04:14 PM
So you don't have any respect for Wilt then?
One of the greatest to play the game, without question.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 04:27 PM
One of the greatest to play the game, without question.

Who played in an era that lacked the star power of the 80's/90's.

numba1CHANGsta
01-28-2015, 04:31 PM
I think Kobe winning it 33 times in a competitive western conference filled with a number of great superstars throughout his career is more impressive

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 04:56 PM
I think Kobe winning it 33 times in a competitive western conference filled with a number of great superstars throughout his career is more impressive

Apart from the fact LeBron has won it 15 more times and is 6 years younger :laugh2:

tredigs
01-28-2015, 05:15 PM
Apart from the fact LeBron has won it 15 more times and is 6 years younger :laugh2:

Which entirely disregards his point. The argument is that you favor quantity, he favors quality.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 05:30 PM
Which entirely disregards his point. The argument is that you favor quantity, he favors quality.

How can you even justify that? I would love to see why you think Kobe's player of the weeks were of a higher quality than LeBron's.

tredigs
01-28-2015, 06:00 PM
How can you even justify that? I would love to see why you think Kobe's player of the weeks were of a higher quality than LeBron's.

It has less to do with Kobe's or Lebron's individual performances, and more to do with the level of competition they go against to win the award. The better players (who have better weeks/months), are by and large in the West (see: All NBA All-Star thread, where Lebron is the only East player listed in 90% of peoples top 12 NBA players). This has by and large been the case since the award for player of the week/month were separated by conference in '02.

Ipso facto - you can really only compare his achievement against players who spent their career in the East during this time, and the same for Kobe and anyone else who did it in the West.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 06:20 PM
It has less to do with Kobe's or Lebron's individual performances, and more to do with the level of competition they go against to win the award. The better players (who have better weeks/months), are by and large in the West (see: All NBA All-Star thread, where Lebron is the only East player listed in 90% of peoples top 12 NBA players). This has by and large been the case since the award for player of the week/month were separated by conference in '02.

Ipso facto - you can really only compare his achievement against players who spent their career in the East during this time, and the same for Kobe and anyone else who did it in the West.

But saying Kobe's awards are of "higher quality" than LeBron's because of competition is assuming LeBron wouldn't have won if he was in the West. Hypothetically speaking LeBron could have won the award one week where he averaged 35/8/8 and been miles ahead of the rest of the East competition but because he's in the East it's not as impressive as someone who wins the West award with a 25/6/6 stat line. You seem to be making quite a bold statement disregarding a player who is regarded as one of the best stat sheet stuffers in NBA history. It's not a stretch to assume LeBron would've won at least 40 of those awards if he played in the West.

If you go on the individual season summaries on basketball-reference you can actually see the raw stat lines (PPG-RPG-APG) of the player of the week winners for entire seasons. If I could be bothered I would go through each one LeBron won and compare them to the West to come to an overall player of the week winner but that's pretty time consuming.

I know Jeffy likes doing these kind of things though ;)

Hangin n Wangin
01-28-2015, 06:23 PM
And back to the Lebron and Kobe debates. This forum is ****ing stupid. It's the same **** over and over again.

tredigs
01-28-2015, 06:48 PM
But saying Kobe's awards are of "higher quality" than LeBron's because of competition is assuming LeBron wouldn't have won if he was in the West. Hypothetically speaking LeBron could have won the award one week where he averaged 35/8/8 and been miles ahead of the rest of the East competition but because he's in the East it's not as impressive as someone who wins the West award with a 25/6/6 stat line. You seem to be making quite a bold statement disregarding a player who is regarded as one of the best stat sheet stuffers in NBA history. It's not a stretch to assume LeBron would've won at least 40 of those awards if he played in the West.

If you go on the individual season summaries on basketball-reference you can actually see the raw stat lines (PPG-RPG-APG) of the player of the week winners for entire seasons. If I could be bothered I would go through each one LeBron won and compare them to the West to come to an overall player of the week winner but that's pretty time consuming.

I know Jeffy likes doing these kind of things though ;)

While he's at it, have him cross reference every week that Kobe and any other top WC player had with the other top players in their conference that week, as well as if that would have been enough to win in the East.

I'll be waiting.

Until then, I'll have to consider it what it is - a conference specific award.

JordansBulls
01-28-2015, 06:59 PM
While he's at it, have him cross reference every week that Kobe and any other top WC player had with the other top players in their conference that week, as well as if that would have been enough to win in the East.

I'll be waiting.

Until then, I'll have to consider it what it is - a conference specific award.

Yep like my physics teacher used to say back in the day, if you are in a class full of retards what difference does it make to say who is the smartest? The quality you are going against matters.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 07:54 PM
I'm pretty bored so had a look at player of the week winners for the East and West dating back to when they separated the awards and made them conference specific.

So lets say the award was league wide and was never divided into conferences after the 2000-01 season. These would've been your winners.

2001-02

Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Elton Brand
Steve Nash
Gary Payton
Tim Duncan
Chris Webber
Kevin Garnett
Allen Iverson
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Jason Kidd
Shawn Marion
Tim Duncan

2002-03

Kobe Bryant
Jerry Stackhouse
Rashard Lewis
Kevin Garnett
Stephon Marbury
Kobe Bryant
Chris Webber
Jason Kidd
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Ben Wallace
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady

2003-04

Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Allen Iverson
Kevin Garnett
Dikembe Mutombo
Shaquille O'Neal
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Jason Kidd
Elton Brand
Paul Pierce
Stephon Marbury
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Andrei Kirilenko
Lamar Odom
Carmelo Anthony
Shaquille O'Neal
Kobe Bryant
Dirk Nowitzki
Jamaal Magloire

2004-05

Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Shawn Marion
Dirk Nowitzki
Amar'e Stoudemire
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Chris Bosh
Larry Hughes
LeBron James
Brad Miller
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Mike Bibby
Allen Iverson
Tracy McGrady
Jason Richardson
Allen Iverson
Baron Davis
Baron Davis
Jason Kidd

2005-06

Kobe Bryant
Gilbert Arenas
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Baron Davis
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Dwyane Wade
Steve Nash
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Allen Iverson
Paul Pierce
LeBron James
LeBron James
LeBron James
Chris Wilcox
Kobe Bryant

2006-07

Allen Iverson
Yao Ming
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Mo Williams
Josh Howard
Kevin Garnett
Dwyane Wade
Caron Butler
Steve Nash
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Vince Carter
Al Jefferson
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Tracy McGrady

2007-08

Tracy McGrady
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Brandon Roy
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Al Jefferson
Brad Miller
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Amar'e Stoudemire
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson

2008-09

Chris Paul
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
Al Harrington
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Al Jefferson
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
David Lee
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard
Ben Gordon

2009-10

Carmelo Anthony
Chris Kaman
Brandon Jennings
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Carlos Boozer
Deron Williams
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
LeBron James
Stephen Jackson
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Andrew Bogut
Pau Gasol
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dirk Nowitzki

2010-11

Pau Gasol
Dwight Howard
Deron Williams
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwight Howard
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwyane Wade
Paul Pierce
Monta Ellis
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Russell Westbrook
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Russell Westbrook
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2011-12

LeBron James
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Paul Pierce
Jeremy Lin
LeBron James
Ty Lawson
Ersan Ilyasova
Andrew Bynum
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Andrew Bynum
LeBron James

2012-13

James Harden
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Tim Duncan
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
David Lee
LeBron James
Greivis Vasquez
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Kyrie Irving
David Lee
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
John Wall
LeBron James
JR Smith
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2013-14

Kevin Love
Paul George
LeBron James
John Wall
Kevin Durant
LaMarcus Aldridge
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
David Lee
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Goran Dragic
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
John Wall
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
Nikola Vucevic
Al Jefferson
Monta Ellis

2014-15

Chris Bosh
Stephen Curry
LeBron James
DeMarcus Cousins
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Klay Thompson
Al Horford
LeBron James

Noteworthy totals:

LeBron James: 42
Kobe Bryant: 21
Carmelo Anthony: 14
Allen Iverson: 14
Kevin Durant: 12
Dwyane Wade: 11
Dwight Howard: 11
Kevin Garnett: 10
Tracy McGrady: 9
Tim Duncan: 8
Paul Pierce: 7
Shaquille O'Neal: 6
Chris Paul: 6

So there you have it. Player of the week across the entire league dating back to when the awards were conference based. Of course I've had to use my judgement in deciding but the choices are actually a lot easier than you think. Go and have a look if you don't believe me.

LeBron would have lost 6 of his player of the week awards if he played in the West.

tredigs
01-28-2015, 08:20 PM
^Lmao - your choice of Lebron over Klay Thompson in this past weeks winners tells me all I need to know about your decision making on the topic. His MPG were down below 30 over the week due to a few blowouts (thanks in large part to him), but he absolutely crushed. 33 PPG on an 80% TS with great D, just 5 total turnovers and a quarter that set the internet on fire. Do you honestly think the majority of voters are choosing LBJ over the week/performances Klay just had? Stop it.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 08:25 PM
^Lmao - your choice of Lebron over Klay Thompson in this past weeks winners tells me all I need to know about your decision making on the topic. His MPG were down below 30 over the week due to a few blowouts (thanks in large part to him), but he absolutely crushed. 33 PPG on an 80% TS with great D, just 5 total turnovers and a quarter that set the internet on fire. Do you honestly think the majority of voters are choosing LBJ over the week/performances Klay just had? Stop it.

Got a response for the other 41 then?

tredigs
01-28-2015, 08:36 PM
Got a response for the other 41 then?

I don't have your attrition or care to look these up. 1 for 1 being blatantly off base was enough for me to see what was going on with your choices. You dug your own grave there.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 08:45 PM
I don't have your attrition or care to look these up. 1 for 1 being blatantly off base was enough for me to see what was going on with your choices. You dug your own grave there.

Looks like you're waving the white flag to me :surrender:

I expected more of a fight from you.

EDIT: Choosing 28/7/8 on 60.3 TS% in 33.7 MPG over 37/2/4 on 73.6 TS% in 32.1 MPG really isn't as blatantly off base as you seem to think it is. I clearly value those 5 extra rebounds and 4 extra assists a lot more than 9 more points on better efficiency. To each his own though.

tredigs
01-28-2015, 09:02 PM
Looks like you're waving the white flag to me :surrender:

I expected more of a fight from you.

EDIT: Choosing 28/7/8 on 60.3 TS% in 33.7 MPG over 37/2/4 on 73.6 TS% in 32.1 MPG really isn't as blatantly off base as you seem to think it is. I clearly value those 5 extra rebounds and 4 extra assists a lot more than 9 more points on better efficiency. To each his own though.

Lol at white flag. I called you out on 1 of 1. THIS WEEKS performances, as if we would forget. As I said, that's more than enough to show your leans here. Do a poll of this board if you think it's close. LBJ also turned it over far more, but regardless, you don't win "Player of the Week" because you think his assists/boards outdue Klay's points/efficiency in a week where one of the players had a historic performance. The historic performance (when supplemented by other great games) will get the vote 10 times out of 10.

FraziersKnicks
01-28-2015, 09:12 PM
Lol at white flag. I called you out on 1 of 1. THIS WEEKS performances, as if we would forget. As I said, that's more than enough to show your leans here. Do a poll of this board if you think it's close. LBJ also turned it over far more, but regardless, you don't win "Player of the Week" because you think his assists/boards outdue Klay's points/efficiency in a week where one of the players had a historic performance. The historic performance (when supplemented by other great games) will get the vote 10 times out of 10.

You're disregarding my argument because of ONE example out of 300+. Hell, take away 10 more of his player of the week awards if you think my judgement is so off base, fact of the matter is he would still have considerably more than any other player!

If it was pretty much any other poster I was having this discussion with on this forum I wouldn't have spent the time and effort I did, but because I think you're one of the more knowledgable guys on here and I respect you as a poster I thought we could have a worthwhile intelligent debate. Apparently not. :shrug:

FlashBolt
01-28-2015, 10:33 PM
I'm pretty bored so had a look at player of the week winners for the East and West dating back to when they separated the awards and made them conference specific.

So lets say the award was league wide and was never divided into conferences after the 2000-01 season. These would've been your winners.

2001-02

Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Elton Brand
Steve Nash
Gary Payton
Tim Duncan
Chris Webber
Kevin Garnett
Allen Iverson
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Jason Kidd
Shawn Marion
Tim Duncan

2002-03

Kobe Bryant
Jerry Stackhouse
Rashard Lewis
Kevin Garnett
Stephon Marbury
Kobe Bryant
Chris Webber
Jason Kidd
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Ben Wallace
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady

2003-04

Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Allen Iverson
Kevin Garnett
Dikembe Mutombo
Shaquille O'Neal
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Jason Kidd
Elton Brand
Paul Pierce
Stephon Marbury
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Andrei Kirilenko
Lamar Odom
Carmelo Anthony
Shaquille O'Neal
Kobe Bryant
Dirk Nowitzki
Jamaal Magloire

2004-05

Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Shawn Marion
Dirk Nowitzki
Amar'e Stoudemire
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Chris Bosh
Larry Hughes
LeBron James
Brad Miller
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Mike Bibby
Allen Iverson
Tracy McGrady
Jason Richardson
Allen Iverson
Baron Davis
Baron Davis
Jason Kidd

2005-06

Kobe Bryant
Gilbert Arenas
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Baron Davis
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Dwyane Wade
Steve Nash
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Allen Iverson
Paul Pierce
LeBron James
LeBron James
LeBron James
Chris Wilcox
Kobe Bryant

2006-07

Allen Iverson
Yao Ming
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Mo Williams
Josh Howard
Kevin Garnett
Dwyane Wade
Caron Butler
Steve Nash
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Vince Carter
Al Jefferson
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Tracy McGrady

2007-08

Tracy McGrady
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Brandon Roy
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Al Jefferson
Brad Miller
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Amar'e Stoudemire
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson

2008-09

Chris Paul
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
Al Harrington
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Al Jefferson
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
David Lee
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard
Ben Gordon

2009-10

Carmelo Anthony
Chris Kaman
Brandon Jennings
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Carlos Boozer
Deron Williams
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
LeBron James
Stephen Jackson
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Andrew Bogut
Pau Gasol
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dirk Nowitzki

2010-11

Pau Gasol
Dwight Howard
Deron Williams
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwight Howard
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwyane Wade
Paul Pierce
Monta Ellis
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Russell Westbrook
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Russell Westbrook
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2011-12

LeBron James
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Paul Pierce
Jeremy Lin
LeBron James
Ty Lawson
Ersan Ilyasova
Andrew Bynum
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Andrew Bynum
LeBron James

2012-13

James Harden
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Tim Duncan
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
David Lee
LeBron James
Greivis Vasquez
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Kyrie Irving
David Lee
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
John Wall
LeBron James
JR Smith
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2013-14

Kevin Love
Paul George
LeBron James
John Wall
Kevin Durant
LaMarcus Aldridge
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
David Lee
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Goran Dragic
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
John Wall
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
Nikola Vucevic
Al Jefferson
Monta Ellis

2014-15

Chris Bosh
Stephen Curry
LeBron James
DeMarcus Cousins
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Klay Thompson
Al Horford
LeBron James

Noteworthy totals:

LeBron James: 42
Kobe Bryant: 21
Carmelo Anthony: 14
Allen Iverson: 14
Kevin Durant: 12
Dwyane Wade: 11
Dwight Howard: 11
Kevin Garnett: 10
Tracy McGrady: 9
Tim Duncan: 8
Paul Pierce: 7
Shaquille O'Neal: 6
Chris Paul: 6

So there you have it. Player of the week across the entire league dating back to when the awards were conference based. Of course I've had to use my judgement in deciding but the choices are actually a lot easier than you think. Go and have a look if you don't believe me.

LeBron would have lost 6 of his player of the week awards if he played in the West.


Major props to you for taking your time to do this. But, you gotta go with Klay man.. 37 points in one quarter is ENOUGH to warrant POTW.

IKnowHoops
01-28-2015, 11:31 PM
Yeah, great job on that research. But what we need is the west and east winner with stats so that everyone can draw there own conclusions and then see what the consensus is. Does anyone really think Bron ends up with less than 30 though. Less than 35 even? Most likely he still has the record by a good margin any way you want to look at it.

IKnowHoops
01-28-2015, 11:36 PM
Id actually be more interested in seeing the amount of east and west winners to see if the "East is weak" theory is also debunked.

L8kers4life
01-28-2015, 11:55 PM
Something that may effect the stats would be if LeBron actually played in the West, the competiton would be a bit more fierce, so his stats would probably take a dip.

With that being said, Lebron would still have over 40.

lol, please
01-29-2015, 12:36 AM
Something that may effect the stats would be if LeBron actually played in the West, the competiton would be a bit more fierce, so his stats would probably take a dip.

With that being said, Lebron would still have over 40.
Depends on what team he would be on. Knowing lebron, the fact that the west is so deep is probably a key factor in why he isn't here in the west.

Chronz
01-29-2015, 01:59 AM
Lol
We all respect. other. Until thetime comes to disagree

FlashBolt
01-29-2015, 09:20 AM
Can someone post LeBron's POTW numbers? I'm willing to bet he'd at least have 35.

Edit: I checked 2012-2014 and 2010-2011 (couldn't find 2011-2012) and Lebron has won 13 POTW in that span. There are 8 of them where I think he clearly won, three that could have gone either way, and two where Kobe and CP3 clearly won. Short sample but I gave him a 9-13 or 10-13 for those POTW. It's not completely accurate, though. Took me ten minutes to do but I just skimmed through the stats.

valade16
01-29-2015, 10:27 AM
Looks like you're waving the white flag to me :surrender:

I expected more of a fight from you.

EDIT: Choosing 28/7/8 on 60.3 TS% in 33.7 MPG over 37/2/4 on 73.6 TS% in 32.1 MPG really isn't as blatantly off base as you seem to think it is. I clearly value those 5 extra rebounds and 4 extra assists a lot more than 9 more points on better efficiency. To each his own though.

It is off base because Klay Thompson set an NBA record. That kind of accomplishment is always factored in when talking about player of the week. No way LeBron gets the Player of the Week that week.

No way. If LeBron had set some kind of record sure, but what Klay did was unfathomable.

koreancabbage
01-29-2015, 10:48 AM
Something that may effect the stats would be if LeBron actually played in the West, the competiton would be a bit more fierce, so his stats would probably take a dip.

With that being said, Lebron would still have over 40.

debateable, if the west brings out the best of your players on a consistent basis, Lebron wouldn't take days off over inferior competition lol. But that's the luxury they have in the East.

Would Lebron's Heat or Cavs teams do well in the West, I mean Lebron's teams since Miami, I believe, has had winning records against the West (except this year but I'll give them till the end of the season if they can since injuries, chemistry issues can correct themselves over the course of the season)

Regardless of where Lebron plays, east or west, it is safe to say that the team he's on has a chance to win it all - not because of Lebron in his entirety, but the fact that the GM has to make moves to improve the team for a player like Lebron.

FraziersKnicks
01-29-2015, 10:58 AM
Can someone post LeBron's POTW numbers? I'm willing to bet he'd at least have 35.

Edit: I checked 2012-2014 and 2010-2011 (couldn't find 2011-2012) and Lebron has won 13 POTW in that span. There are 8 of them where I think he clearly won, three that could have gone either way, and two where Kobe and CP3 clearly won. Short sample but I gave him a 9-13 or 10-13 for those POTW. It's not completely accurate, though. Took me ten minutes to do but I just skimmed through the stats.

If you look at basketball reference's season summaries they have a breakdown of all the winners for the certain season.

FlashBolt
01-29-2015, 11:12 AM
If you look at basketball reference's season summaries they have a breakdown of all the winners for the certain season.

Got a link? I'm too lazy and I have work soon.

PurpleLynch
01-29-2015, 04:21 PM
I'm pretty bored so had a look at player of the week winners for the East and West dating back to when they separated the awards and made them conference specific.

So lets say the award was league wide and was never divided into conferences after the 2000-01 season. These would've been your winners.

2001-02

Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Elton Brand
Steve Nash
Gary Payton
Tim Duncan
Chris Webber
Kevin Garnett
Allen Iverson
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Jason Kidd
Shawn Marion
Tim Duncan

2002-03

Kobe Bryant
Jerry Stackhouse
Rashard Lewis
Kevin Garnett
Stephon Marbury
Kobe Bryant
Chris Webber
Jason Kidd
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Ben Wallace
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady

2003-04

Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Allen Iverson
Kevin Garnett
Dikembe Mutombo
Shaquille O'Neal
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Jason Kidd
Elton Brand
Paul Pierce
Stephon Marbury
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Andrei Kirilenko
Lamar Odom
Carmelo Anthony
Shaquille O'Neal
Kobe Bryant
Dirk Nowitzki
Jamaal Magloire

2004-05

Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Shawn Marion
Dirk Nowitzki
Amar'e Stoudemire
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Chris Bosh
Larry Hughes
LeBron James
Brad Miller
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Mike Bibby
Allen Iverson
Tracy McGrady
Jason Richardson
Allen Iverson
Baron Davis
Baron Davis
Jason Kidd

2005-06

Kobe Bryant
Gilbert Arenas
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Baron Davis
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Dwyane Wade
Steve Nash
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Allen Iverson
Paul Pierce
LeBron James
LeBron James
LeBron James
Chris Wilcox
Kobe Bryant

2006-07

Allen Iverson
Yao Ming
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Mo Williams
Josh Howard
Kevin Garnett
Dwyane Wade
Caron Butler
Steve Nash
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Vince Carter
Al Jefferson
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Tracy McGrady

2007-08

Tracy McGrady
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Brandon Roy
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Al Jefferson
Brad Miller
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Amar'e Stoudemire
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson

2008-09

Chris Paul
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
Al Harrington
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Al Jefferson
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
David Lee
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard
Ben Gordon

2009-10

Carmelo Anthony
Chris Kaman
Brandon Jennings
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Carlos Boozer
Deron Williams
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
LeBron James
Stephen Jackson
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Andrew Bogut
Pau Gasol
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dirk Nowitzki

2010-11

Pau Gasol
Dwight Howard
Deron Williams
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwight Howard
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwyane Wade
Paul Pierce
Monta Ellis
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Russell Westbrook
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Russell Westbrook
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2011-12

LeBron James
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Paul Pierce
Jeremy Lin
LeBron James
Ty Lawson
Ersan Ilyasova
Andrew Bynum
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Andrew Bynum
LeBron James

2012-13

James Harden
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Tim Duncan
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
David Lee
LeBron James
Greivis Vasquez
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Kyrie Irving
David Lee
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
John Wall
LeBron James
JR Smith
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2013-14

Kevin Love
Paul George
LeBron James
John Wall
Kevin Durant
LaMarcus Aldridge
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
David Lee
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Goran Dragic
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
John Wall
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
Nikola Vucevic
Al Jefferson
Monta Ellis

2014-15

Chris Bosh
Stephen Curry
LeBron James
DeMarcus Cousins
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Klay Thompson
Al Horford
LeBron James

Noteworthy totals:

LeBron James: 42
Kobe Bryant: 21
Carmelo Anthony: 14
Allen Iverson: 14
Kevin Durant: 12
Dwyane Wade: 11
Dwight Howard: 11
Kevin Garnett: 10
Tracy McGrady: 9
Tim Duncan: 8
Paul Pierce: 7
Shaquille O'Neal: 6
Chris Paul: 6

So there you have it. Player of the week across the entire league dating back to when the awards were conference based. Of course I've had to use my judgement in deciding but the choices are actually a lot easier than you think. Go and have a look if you don't believe me.

LeBron would have lost 6 of his player of the week awards if he played in the West.

What does it mean? Have you seen all games from player of the week of both conferences and judge who was better? Just asking.

FraziersKnicks
01-29-2015, 04:53 PM
What does it mean? Have you seen all games from player of the week of both conferences and judge who was better? Just asking.

Of course I havent, that's like 300 weeks of games I would have to look at and work out averages. On basketball reference they have every winner of player of the week from the east and west with their PPG-RPG-APG stat lines.

Obviously very basic but you can kinda work out who was more deserving if for example Carmelo Anthony had a week where he averaged 40/10/5 in the east and CP3 won the award in the west with 17/5/10. Not perfect but can give us a better idea of who would've won without spending days working out every single shooting percentage etc.

Hence my mistake in selecting LeBron over Klay. I was just going off the raw numbers in which 28/7/8 looked better to me than 37/2/4. With the added context Klay was more deserving but that's the problem with using this method. Not ideal but more often than not I'm sure it would provide us with the correct overall winner.

FraziersKnicks
01-29-2015, 04:59 PM
I never claimed the method to be completely foolproof. There are gonna be instances when a random player like Mo Williams drops a 50 game and wins it but it would be hugely time consuming to check all these things and form an opinion then.

I thought it was extremely premature of Tredigs to throw out all the work I did just because of one issue he saw with the method. I would probably say 80% of the time, those basic stats provide a pretty good indication of who was more deserving. At the end of the day if there was an overall player of the week there is a very good chance LeBron would still be double digits ahead of any other player in terms of wins.

lol, please
01-29-2015, 06:10 PM
I admire your persistence, but when someone makes history in one quarter like klay did, it's not going to be beat, and there is no argument against it.

FraziersKnicks
01-29-2015, 07:04 PM
I admire your persistence, but when someone makes history in one quarter like klay did, it's not going to be beat, and there is no argument against it.

I said I made a mistake in selecting LeBron over Klay. I had just spent about an hour going through a lot of numbers. I'm saying Tredigs shouldn't discredit the rest of the selections because of the first one he saw (which I admit should've gone to Klay). I am not arguing against it.

Sort out that reading comprehension bro.

tredigs
01-29-2015, 09:22 PM
I was rude, so I apologize for that. It just came off as agenda pushing when I saw that on the first week I looked at which was fresh in our minds, and in general you kept virtually 90% of his wins, which seems likely off base.

You'd really have to read a recap of each weeks winners as well as their stats to get a better feel for who would have won.

tredigs
01-29-2015, 09:26 PM
For example, Kyries double nickle +game winner over Portland with no LBJ gives him a massive edge in player of the week voting this week, regardless if somebody else has a bit better stats overall. You'd know that from a recap, but not the aggregate of the weekly #'s alone.

Jeffy25
02-01-2015, 11:38 PM
I'm pretty bored so had a look at player of the week winners for the East and West dating back to when they separated the awards and made them conference specific.

So lets say the award was league wide and was never divided into conferences after the 2000-01 season. These would've been your winners.

2001-02

Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Elton Brand
Steve Nash
Gary Payton
Tim Duncan
Chris Webber
Kevin Garnett
Allen Iverson
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Jason Kidd
Shawn Marion
Tim Duncan

2002-03

Kobe Bryant
Jerry Stackhouse
Rashard Lewis
Kevin Garnett
Stephon Marbury
Kobe Bryant
Chris Webber
Jason Kidd
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Stephon Marbury
Steve Francis
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Ben Wallace
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal
Tracy McGrady

2003-04

Rashard Lewis
Ron Artest
Allen Iverson
Kevin Garnett
Dikembe Mutombo
Shaquille O'Neal
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Jason Kidd
Elton Brand
Paul Pierce
Stephon Marbury
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Andrei Kirilenko
Lamar Odom
Carmelo Anthony
Shaquille O'Neal
Kobe Bryant
Dirk Nowitzki
Jamaal Magloire

2004-05

Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Shawn Marion
Dirk Nowitzki
Amar'e Stoudemire
Shaquille O'Neal
Allen Iverson
Stephon Marbury
Chris Bosh
Larry Hughes
LeBron James
Brad Miller
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Mike Bibby
Allen Iverson
Tracy McGrady
Jason Richardson
Allen Iverson
Baron Davis
Baron Davis
Jason Kidd

2005-06

Kobe Bryant
Gilbert Arenas
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Baron Davis
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
Vince Carter
Dwyane Wade
Steve Nash
Allen Iverson
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Allen Iverson
Paul Pierce
LeBron James
LeBron James
LeBron James
Chris Wilcox
Kobe Bryant

2006-07

Allen Iverson
Yao Ming
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony
Gilbert Arenas
Gilbert Arenas
Mo Williams
Josh Howard
Kevin Garnett
Dwyane Wade
Caron Butler
Steve Nash
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
Vince Carter
Al Jefferson
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Tracy McGrady

2007-08

Tracy McGrady
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Brandon Roy
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Gerald Wallace
Al Jefferson
Brad Miller
Amar'e Stoudemire
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Tracy McGrady
Amar'e Stoudemire
Chris Paul
Carmelo Anthony
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson

2008-09

Chris Paul
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
Al Harrington
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Al Jefferson
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
David Lee
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Devin Harris
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard
Ben Gordon

2009-10

Carmelo Anthony
Chris Kaman
Brandon Jennings
LeBron James
Gerald Wallace
Carlos Boozer
Deron Williams
Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
LeBron James
Stephen Jackson
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
LeBron James
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Andrew Bogut
Pau Gasol
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dirk Nowitzki

2010-11

Pau Gasol
Dwight Howard
Deron Williams
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwight Howard
Amar'e Stoudemire
Dwyane Wade
Paul Pierce
Monta Ellis
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Russell Westbrook
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
Dwight Howard
Russell Westbrook
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2011-12

LeBron James
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Dwight Howard
LeBron James
Paul Pierce
Jeremy Lin
LeBron James
Ty Lawson
Ersan Ilyasova
Andrew Bynum
Kevin Durant
Chris Paul
LeBron James
Andrew Bynum
LeBron James

2012-13

James Harden
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Tim Duncan
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
David Lee
LeBron James
Greivis Vasquez
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Kyrie Irving
David Lee
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Monta Ellis
Kobe Bryant
John Wall
LeBron James
JR Smith
Carmelo Anthony
Carmelo Anthony

2013-14

Kevin Love
Paul George
LeBron James
John Wall
Kevin Durant
LaMarcus Aldridge
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
David Lee
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kevin Durant
Goran Dragic
Kevin Durant
Kevin Love
John Wall
James Harden
Blake Griffin
Kevin Durant
Nikola Vucevic
Al Jefferson
Monta Ellis

2014-15

Chris Bosh
Stephen Curry
LeBron James
DeMarcus Cousins
LeBron James
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
LaMarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Kevin Durant
Klay Thompson
Al Horford
LeBron James

Noteworthy totals:

LeBron James: 42
Kobe Bryant: 21
Carmelo Anthony: 14
Allen Iverson: 14
Kevin Durant: 12
Dwyane Wade: 11
Dwight Howard: 11
Kevin Garnett: 10
Tracy McGrady: 9
Tim Duncan: 8
Paul Pierce: 7
Shaquille O'Neal: 6
Chris Paul: 6

So there you have it. Player of the week across the entire league dating back to when the awards were conference based. Of course I've had to use my judgement in deciding but the choices are actually a lot easier than you think. Go and have a look if you don't believe me.

LeBron would have lost 6 of his player of the week awards if he played in the West.

I applaud your work


Even if we give some level of error, say 5 or 6 away from LeBron...he would still be destroying the award record