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AussieLaker
01-07-2015, 04:34 PM
PEr @ESPNSTEINLINE
ESPN sources say Cavs are prepared to surrender atleast one first-round pick and additional trade assets to Denver for Mozgov

Jamiecballer
01-07-2015, 04:37 PM
NO! raptors get in there!

Ezio
01-07-2015, 04:37 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m1 minute ago
Deal sending Timofey Mozgov from Denver to Cleveland, I'm told, is on course to be completed as soon as today

JV35
01-07-2015, 04:38 PM
PEr @ESPNSTEINLINE
ESPN sources say Cavs are prepared to surrender atleast one first-round pick and additional trade assets to Denver for Mozgov

Are these the same people that said Reggie Jackson was going to be included in the Knicks trade?

abe_froman
01-07-2015, 04:38 PM
they need him desperately

Deception
01-07-2015, 04:38 PM
Cleveland getting desperate to make LeBron happy

cmellofan15
01-07-2015, 04:40 PM
oh, cool...a first rounder...

JEDean89
01-07-2015, 04:41 PM
well this move will work well for cleveland, but mozzy is far from an imposing C. he is decent rim protector but the guy is soft soft soft. i'm all for dumping mozzy as a nuggs fan, especially if we can snag picks, but on his contract, at his position and with his age, he needs to net the nuggs more than a late 1st, a mid 1st would be beautfiul.

Ezio
01-07-2015, 04:43 PM
Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 16s16 seconds ago
Cavs & coach David Blatt really wanted Timofey Mozgov from Denver. So bad they're ready to give 2 1sts sources say

AussieLaker
01-07-2015, 04:44 PM
maybe 2 first rounders

Jamiecballer
01-07-2015, 04:44 PM
Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN 16s16 seconds ago
Cavs & coach David Blatt really wanted Timofey Mozgov from Denver. So bad they're ready to give 2 1sts sources say

oh yuck forget i said anything. too much.

Max.This
01-07-2015, 04:47 PM
sounds like they REALLY REALLY need a center and are scared shitless about rumors from the grapevine about lebron considering leaving

BALLER R
01-07-2015, 04:47 PM
I don't think Lebron should give up 2 picks for him.

CodeRed
01-07-2015, 04:52 PM
I'll take two firsts for him, Nurkic is already better and has A LOT OF potential. I wouldn't mind Shumpert as well, allowing us to move Afflalo too.

Ezio
01-07-2015, 04:52 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 7s7 seconds ago
Cleveland has agreed to a deal in principle to acquire Denver center Timofey Mogzgov for two first-round picks, league source tells Yahoo.

Ezio
01-07-2015, 04:54 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 26s27 seconds ago
Cleveland will send Denver two picks that it controls via Memphis and Oklahoma City, league source tells Yahoo. No other players in deal.

NYKnickFanatic
01-07-2015, 04:55 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 7s7 seconds ago
Cleveland has agreed to a deal in principle to acquire Denver center Timofey Mogzgov for two first-round picks, league source tells Yahoo.

Wow. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to sign Dalembert?

AussieLaker
01-07-2015, 04:55 PM
2 PICKS and absorbed into clev trade exception

TrueFan420
01-07-2015, 04:55 PM
Granted both picks will be later in the draft but still that's a whole lot to give up. Even if they need his size badly.

CodeRed
01-07-2015, 04:58 PM
I actually think it's a good deal for both sides, they're late picks and Mozgov is a good center. Meanwhile, this should open up PT for Nurkic in Denver and the picks could be used in other deals in the future.

ghettosean
01-07-2015, 05:05 PM
I don't think Lebron should give up 2 picks for him.

He already gave up 2 first #1 picks for Love so why not just to first rounders for Mozgov. I hope this works out for the cavs because if it doesn't they are ruining there future.

Chronz
01-07-2015, 05:05 PM
wow, Mozgov fetches 2 first rounders these days? Wonder what we could get for DJ

RLundi
01-07-2015, 05:06 PM
Wow it seems like the Cavs gave up a little much.

mngopher35
01-07-2015, 05:06 PM
It seems like cle gave a bit much here because of their glaring need. A first, trade exception, and waiters got them shumpert, jr, mosgov. That is a solid group of role players that fit some needs. It will be interesting to see how much this helps them moving forward.

Also it will be good for Denver because now we get to see nurkic get more pt and experience. They aren't competing for playoffs this year so why not make a trade for the future.

ghettosean
01-07-2015, 05:06 PM
Wow. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to sign Dalembert?

This is what I thought would happen.

bucketss
01-07-2015, 05:08 PM
cavs desperate.

Randy West
01-07-2015, 05:09 PM
Seems like alot for Moz

JEDean89
01-07-2015, 05:13 PM
Cavs now fetch a pretty awesome starting 5 and they were able to keep Thompson.

Kryrie/Dellavadova
Shumps/Smith
LBJ/Marion
Love/Thompson
Mozzy/Varejao (when healthy)

that is a deep team with scoring, defense and rebounding in each unit. I will give koudos to Griffin, did this team need 2 more mid to late 1st rounders or an NBA center on one of the best contracts in the league? Mozzy isn't a top 10 C, but the Cavs don't need him to be. His relationship with Blatt will help big time for this team.

OT Thriller
01-07-2015, 05:14 PM
The big winner in this trade is David Blatt. Him and Mozgov were together on the Russian National teams and are very familiar with each other. Blatt needs as many guys on his side as he can and Mozgov is sure to help with that.

AussieLaker
01-07-2015, 05:14 PM
The Cavs payroll for next year could potentially be at $90mill ($100m if you add in haywood)

GiantsSwaGG
01-07-2015, 05:17 PM
Is Mozgof even that good?

BIG worm
01-07-2015, 05:17 PM
Cavs throwing picks away like Brooklyn did a few years back.

SteBO
01-07-2015, 05:20 PM
Wreaks of desperation.....

jerellh528
01-07-2015, 05:21 PM
2 firsts? Ouch. But Lebron ain't getting any younger and I think they're going all in for the next season or two. It could be all worth it, or blow up in thier face big time if james and love both leave.

abe_froman
01-07-2015, 05:23 PM
Is Mozgof even that good?

as a defensive specialist? yeah,he's pretty good.as an overall player? i'd say below average

D-Leethal
01-07-2015, 05:25 PM
This does wreak of NJ - the need to appease your star (LeBron) or owner (Proky) can lead to some stupid, stupid deals.

Shammyguy3
01-07-2015, 05:29 PM
The big winner in this trade is David Blatt. Him and Mozgov were together on the Russian National teams and are very familiar with each other. Blatt needs as many guys on his side as he can and Mozgov is sure to help with that.

Good to know

BIG worm
01-07-2015, 05:32 PM
This does wreak of NJ - the need to appease your star (LeBron) or owner (Proky) can lead to some stupid, stupid deals.

Your sig always makes me laugh. JR is a fool! Lol

bucketss
01-07-2015, 05:32 PM
as a defensive specialist? yeah,he's pretty good.as an overall player? i'd say below average

okay than he will be perfect for the cavs. i think hes a solid rebounder to,

BIG worm
01-07-2015, 05:35 PM
Cavs all in. Dan Gilbert must be a gambiln' man. Because Love and LBJ arent guaranteed to stay. If they leave, Cleveland is ****ed.

Chronz
01-07-2015, 05:49 PM
This does wreak of NJ - the need to appease your star (LeBron) or owner (Proky) can lead to some stupid, stupid deals.

I know you're talking about Brooklyn but when I saw NJ, I immediately thought of the time Kidd demanded the team bring on Alonzo.

Lakers + Giants
01-07-2015, 05:53 PM
Damn. We need to trade jordan hill asap then. I want to see what we can get for him.

mgjohnson7851
01-07-2015, 05:56 PM
I'm a nuggets fan, and I'm happy with this trade. Lot of nuggets fans really like mozzy, but I just can't stand how soft he is. He will never be more than average because he is so damn soft.

Denver has Nurkic who may be better than Mozzy already. Also, there's still hope that Mcgee will be back in about a month.

mngopher35
01-07-2015, 05:57 PM
Wow. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to sign Dalembert?

Ya but I don't think it's guaranteed and he isn't as good. They should still be trying to get dalembert anyways so this move doesn't change that IMO.

bucketss
01-07-2015, 06:01 PM
cavs should have gotten mcgee back to.

jakub
01-07-2015, 06:02 PM
Cavs slaughtered the Knicks in the 3 way deal, and even ended up getting a first round pick back from OKC. They crushed that trade, and now are using an asset they won't need, while adding another late first rounder to acquire a solid center, which is what they need.

Goose17
01-07-2015, 06:02 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/5lt179.png

LOL^

numba1CHANGsta
01-07-2015, 06:29 PM
Hey everyone let's all help the Cavs win the title this year, yeah? Do it for LeBron, come on guys we need a full 30 team effort to help LeBron reach the Finals and yet lose again, any donation is appreciated, Cavs are in desperate need to win a title for LeBron because without him there's no point of winning one because the Cleveland Cavs are now called the Cleveland LeBron's

IgglesFanInCO
01-07-2015, 06:49 PM
Mozgov is an above average center who is a solid rim protector and rebounder. He has bricks for hands so don't expect much offensively, but he has a decent stroke for a guy his size and can knock down open 15 footers and free throws more than you would expect. I think he will do very well in Cleveland.

That said, this is a great return and Nurkic is already better and the clear frontcourt building block moving forward so I love this trade as a Nuggets fan. Win/Win for both teams

Ty_Lawson
01-07-2015, 06:51 PM
Now, lets trade Chandler,Afflalo to CHI for Jimmy, fillers and start tanking already.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 06:53 PM
Nice trade for both teams.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 06:56 PM
Cavs got Waiters and a late 1st for JR Smith, Iman Shumpert and Mozgov. They didn't get worse.

You'd probably be lucky to get a player with Mozgov's career with 2 late 1st rounders.

raiderfaninTX
01-07-2015, 06:58 PM
People on here way over value 1st round picks that are out side the top 15. This isn't the NFL

It may just be beause it's the cavs though

smiddy012
01-07-2015, 07:03 PM
Now, lets trade Chandler,Afflalo to CHI for Jimmy, fillers and start tanking already.

The Bulls aren't in rebuild mode, but thanks anyways!

Goose17
01-07-2015, 07:04 PM
People on here way over value 1st round picks that are out side the top 15. This isn't the NFL

It may just be beause it's the cavs though

Are they protected? Or are you just assuming they won't be lotto picks in 2018?

raiderfaninTX
01-07-2015, 07:09 PM
Are they protected? Or are you just assuming they won't be lotto picks in 2018?

The OKC is prtoected 1-18, 1-17, 1-15 the next three seasons and the Girzz's picks are all over the place

WITZ
01-07-2015, 07:10 PM
Are they protected? Or are you just assuming they won't be lotto picks in 2018?

Memphis pick protect until 2018 or 19 and they only get if it falls in range 6-14 these next 2 years tops 5 following years & chances are the thunder pick will be had this year as its only top 18 protected i think.

kozelkid
01-07-2015, 07:11 PM
Now, lets trade Chandler,Afflalo to CHI for Jimmy, fillers and start tanking already.
Are you high? Why would the Bulls trade a top 5 wingman for two role players?

BIG worm
01-07-2015, 07:16 PM
People on here way over value 1st round picks that are out side the top 15. This isn't the NFL

It may just be beause it's the cavs though

I think you may be undervaluing late first picks. Look at the Bulls alone, Butler, Mirotic, Gibson...all picked in mid to late 1st round.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
01-07-2015, 07:23 PM
lol Bill Simmons, Jalen Rose and that Jacoby dude predicted this in their podcast the other day. Mozgov's a good replacement for Varajao. I'm guessing there are some sort of protection on those firsts too.

smith&wesson
01-07-2015, 07:24 PM
I think attaining mosgov and shumpert will pay dividence.. good moves for the cavs imo.

tredigs
01-07-2015, 07:25 PM
Great trade for the Nugs and fairly necessary for Cleveland.

Enter, ladies and gentleman, the Jusuf Nurkik era: 20 yr old Serbian center whose Per 36 minute = 17/14/2 +2 steals/3 blocks. Been killing it this past week with an uptick in minutes to the mid twenties. He's going to be a beast.

JEDean89
01-07-2015, 07:48 PM
^^^ yes he is, he is now my favorite after Wiggins for ROY, he should get it with the minutes.

joshhorvath
01-07-2015, 08:08 PM
would laugh my *** off if mozgov got injured! :p

*Silver&Black*
01-07-2015, 08:20 PM
Cavs going all in and yet won't get past Coach Bud's squad.

GodsSon
01-07-2015, 08:24 PM
Cavs getting desperate lol

kingsdelez24
01-07-2015, 08:26 PM
Great trade for the Nugs and fairly necessary for Cleveland.

Enter, ladies and gentleman, the Jusuf Nurkik era: 20 yr old Serbian center whose Per 36 minute = 17/14/2 +2 steals/3 blocks. Been killing it this past week with an uptick in minutes to the mid twenties. He's going to be a beast.

Bosnian but still, I'm a big fan

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 08:36 PM
Cavs didn't overpay for Mozgov. How is it desperate?

5ass
01-07-2015, 08:39 PM
Nice move for both teams. Cleveland should still look to sign emeka okafor with the 4.5 mill exception they got for varajoas injury. They're adding much needed defense, as they should.

tredigs
01-07-2015, 08:41 PM
Bosnian but still, I'm a big fan

Oh word. I just heard an interview and assumed. We'll call him Yugoslavian ; )

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 08:42 PM
Nice move for both teams. Cleveland should still look to sign emeka okafor with the 4.5 mill exception they got for varajoas injury. They're adding much needed defense, as they should.

Okafor might sit out the whole year.

Longhornfan1234
01-07-2015, 08:43 PM
Good pick up. King James will be sitting on his throne while holding up the trophy after the playoffs.

WITZ
01-07-2015, 08:47 PM
Cavs didn't overpay for Mozgov. How is it desperate?

Its an overpay because people find any reason to hate on the cavs duh :laugh2:

Vee-Rex
01-07-2015, 09:14 PM
Its an overpay because people find any reason to hate on the cavs duh :laugh2:

Lol this.

I've been the only obnoxious Cavs fan on psd yet the Cavs are still hated on so hard. Hataz gonna hate & all

dtmagnet
01-07-2015, 09:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQJjaalhcwY

ewing
01-07-2015, 09:45 PM
Its an overpay because people find any reason to hate on the cavs duh :laugh2:


I am probably Mozzy's biggest fan on here but there is no way he fetches two 1st rounders unless the team trading for him is desperate. The Cavs got better. They also overpaided

Crackadalic
01-07-2015, 09:45 PM
The 2 1st are over kill but other then that I like the deal. Moz is a good rim protector

LA_Raiders
01-07-2015, 10:01 PM
2 1st picks are not a bad deal since there is not a lot of talent now a days.

Wade n Fade
01-07-2015, 10:03 PM
LeBron didn't win this trade. How could he give up 2 picks for Mozgov lol?

DemarDerozan
01-07-2015, 10:05 PM
Lol Mozgov was a throw in with the Melo trade.

Denver continues to win this trade four years later.
Essentially Denver received Gallo, Chandler, three first round picks and two second rounders for Melo and a one year rental of Chauncey.

kingkenny01
01-07-2015, 10:07 PM
Good deal for both teams, cavs have no need to develop late round talent right now, with this core they should be contending, nuggets are out of the playoffs they can use the pick to add quality depth

GodsSon
01-07-2015, 10:11 PM
I am probably Mozzy's biggest fan on here but there is no way he fetches two 1st rounders unless the team trading for him is desperate. The Cavs got better. They also overpaided

My thoughts exactly.

Two 1st's for Mozgov??? That's crazy. Think about it, on any LEGIT contender, Mozgov isn't starting...

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 10:24 PM
I am probably Mozzy's biggest fan on here but there is no way he fetches two 1st rounders unless the team trading for him is desperate. The Cavs got better. They also overpaided

Based on the odds, you'll probably break even to find a player that will be as good as Mozgov from 1 of the 2 picks.

FraziersKnicks
01-07-2015, 10:24 PM
Lol Mozgov was a throw in with the Melo trade.

Denver continues to win this trade four years later.
Essentially Denver received Gallo, Chandler, three first round picks and two second rounders for Melo and a one year rental of Chauncey.

Gallo has been decimated by injuries and has no value now, Chandler is the definition of a solid, average NBA starter and those picks are Quincy Miller (D-League), Dario Saric (pick was used to obtain Iguodala, who left in free agency) and what will probably be two late first rounders.

The Knicks still have Carmelo who is an NBA star.

So the trade is basically Chandler and 2 late first round picks for Carmelo.

The Knicks got the better end of that deal.

Yanks All Day
01-07-2015, 10:27 PM
First of all, Cleveland sent 2 protected picks they acquired from other teams to Denver to Mosgov. The picks are from Memphis and Oklahoma City. Regardless of which year those picks end up being, they're top-15 protected. It's also highly unlikely that those picks will be relatively high in the draft, considering the Grizzlies and Thunder are two of the better teams in basketball. If Cleveland manages to keep this core together, which these moves are made to try to ensure, the Cavs won't be a team looking to keep later draft picks (who are mostly projects anyway) and hope they develop. They're in win-now mode, and need as much talent as possible.

Timofey Mosgov helps Cleveland do that. He doesn't have to be an offensive force. Just a big body, which he's been good at. He can protect the rim, which Cleveland desperately needs. He also has a team-friendly cap number next year at roughly $5m. That can go a long way to developing a deep roster, like having money to keep guys like Tristan Thompson around as well.

Did they give up a lot? Maybe. Maybe not. It depends on how you value first round picks in the early-to-late 20s if you're a team with championship desires. I think these recent moves have been exactly what Cleveland needs. Just gotta see how it translates to on-court results.

Bigbadmoffo
01-07-2015, 10:38 PM
I think you may be undervaluing late first picks. Look at the Bulls alone, Butler, Mirotic, Gibson...all picked in mid to late 1st round.

He is and I can name a lot of players that are better then Mozgov who have been drafted in the late 1st round. This is a much needed trade for the Cavs however and they had no choice but to over pay.

ewing
01-07-2015, 10:43 PM
Based on the odds, you'll probably break even to find a player that will be as good as Mozgov from 1 of the 2 picks.


maybe but regardless 2 first rounders normally can land you more and while i think he is worth it you might even have a hard time getting one 1st rounder for Moz normally. there is no doubt that the Cavs were feeling the pressure and based on market value they overpaid.

ewing
01-07-2015, 10:47 PM
First of all, Cleveland sent 2 protected picks they acquired from other teams to Denver to Mosgov. The picks are from Memphis and Oklahoma City. Regardless of which year those picks end up being, they're top-15 protected. It's also highly unlikely that those picks will be relatively high in the draft, considering the Grizzlies and Thunder are two of the better teams in basketball. If Cleveland manages to keep this core together, which these moves are made to try to ensure, the Cavs won't be a team looking to keep later draft picks (who are mostly projects anyway) and hope they develop. They're in win-now mode, and need as much talent as possible.

Timofey Mosgov helps Cleveland do that. He doesn't have to be an offensive force. Just a big body, which he's been good at. He can protect the rim, which Cleveland desperately needs. He also has a team-friendly cap number next year at roughly $5m. That can go a long way to developing a deep roster, like having money to keep guys like Tristan Thompson around as well.

Did they give up a lot? Maybe. Maybe not. It depends on how you value first round picks in the early-to-late 20s if you're a team with championship desires. I think these recent moves have been exactly what Cleveland needs. Just gotta see how it translates to on-court results.


i agree. based on market value they still overpaid

bleedprple&gold
01-07-2015, 11:03 PM
Cavs didn't overpay for Mozgov. How is it desperate?

C'mon it was an overpay. Rondo couldn't even fetch two 1sts. But if you look at both trades together, giving up Waiters and a 1st for Shump, Smith and Mozgov it looks much better. Shump and Mozgov will give them much needed defense and Smith can replace Waiter's bench scoring. Solid moves for the Cavs as a whole.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 11:36 PM
C'mon it was an overpay. Rondo couldn't even fetch two 1sts. But if you look at both trades together, giving up Waiters and a 1st for Shump, Smith and Mozgov it looks much better. Shump and Mozgov will give them much needed defense and Smith can replace Waiter's bench scoring. Solid moves for the Cavs as a whole.

It's 2 protected 1st rounders that won't be seen until 2 years from now in the late teens or in the 20's. The value of that right now isn't as high as it would be say a year from now.

Rondo probably easily fetch 2 late 1st rounder that will be given in 2 years if it was being offered.

The value of the picks are higher than Mozgov, but I don't think the disparity is enough that it's the overpay we would normally consider.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-07-2015, 11:39 PM
maybe but regardless 2 first rounders normally can land you more and while i think he is worth it you might even have a hard time getting one 1st rounder for Moz normally. there is no doubt that the Cavs were feeling the pressure and based on market value they overpaid.

It could land you more for sure but the value between the picks and Mosgov isn't big enough to be considered overpaid. It's favoured for Denver but Cavs got solid value for the picks factoring in the likelihood of where the pick lands, how far away the pick is (probably 2 years away) and the heightened value for centers.

jmartin80
01-08-2015, 12:18 AM
As I said when Varejao got injured... don't worry. The NBA will find a way to try to get Lebron the help he needs.

Not surprised. Actually, maybe a little surprised that they didn't get more. Give it time.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-08-2015, 12:27 AM
as i said when varejao got injured... Don't worry. The nba will find a way to try to get lebron the help he needs.

Not surprised. Actually, maybe a little surprised that they didn't get more. Give it time.

lol.

Nikeman
01-08-2015, 02:28 AM
As I said when Varejao got injured... don't worry. The NBA will find a way to try to get Lebron the help he needs.

Not surprised. Actually, maybe a little surprised that they didn't get more. Give it time.

I'm a Heat fan still bitter at LBJ for leaving but damn you seem like an insecure Bulls fan... yeah its really the NBA's doing the fact these trades occurred... lmao get a grip bro

Confusious
01-08-2015, 08:48 AM
Finally some goddamn rim protection. Two picks is a lot, but means **** all when a team wants nothing but to WIN NOW.

IBleedPurple
01-08-2015, 10:23 AM
Cavs getting a 2015 2nd as well, a low 2nd. Good deal for both sides.

Just seen the 4.6M trade exception to DEN, I missed that last night.

futureman
01-08-2015, 01:37 PM
Cleveland is going to blow apart. They made a huge huge mistake by trading Wiggins and they're FO isn't disciplined enough to win a championship because Lebron is running the show. In Miami they had a leesh on him.

Chronz
01-08-2015, 02:21 PM
Cleveland is going to blow apart. They made a huge huge mistake by trading Wiggins and they're FO isn't disciplined enough to win a championship because Lebron is running the show. In Miami they had a leesh on him.
Miami crippled themselves by forfeiting soo many picks just to sign these guys

Chronz
01-08-2015, 02:22 PM
Cavs getting a 2015 2nd as well, a low 2nd. Good deal for both sides.

Just seen the 4.6M trade exception to DEN, I missed that last night.
Th em 2nd rounders change things abit

PurpleLynch
01-08-2015, 02:37 PM
Overall not a bad trade. They took 2nd rounders + a solid rim protector. Still,Cleveland has a long way ahead...

LOOTERX9
01-08-2015, 03:00 PM
Lbj is screwing Cleveland royally. He is leaving next season. Cavs making these moves for nothing

WITZ
01-08-2015, 03:35 PM
Lbj is screwing Cleveland royally. He is leaving next season. Cavs making these moves for nothing

Didn't know Miss Cleo was part of this board predicting the future and all :laugh2:

Vinylman
01-08-2015, 03:42 PM
Th em 2nd rounders change things abit

why? you can just buy one for around 1-2 million... they are basically worthless throw ins

dtmagnet
01-08-2015, 05:11 PM
Gallo has been decimated by injuries and has no value now, Chandler is the definition of a solid, average NBA starter and those picks are Quincy Miller (D-League), Dario Saric (pick was used to obtain Iguodala, who left in free agency) and what will probably be two late first rounders.

The Knicks still have Carmelo who is an NBA star.

So the trade is basically Chandler and 2 late first round picks for Carmelo.

The Knicks got the better end of that deal.

5 wins 33 losses, I don't think the Knicks got the better end...

BHF
01-08-2015, 06:30 PM
Great trade for the Nugs and fairly necessary for Cleveland.

Enter, ladies and gentlema n, the Jusuf Nurkik era: 20 yr old Serbian center whose Per 36 minute = 17/14/2 +2 steals/3 blocks. Been killing it this past week with an uptick in minutes to the mid twenties. He's going to be a beast.

:no: that is the worst thing you can call a Bosnian person its an insult

PurpleLynch
01-08-2015, 06:58 PM
:no: that is the worst thing you can call a Bosnian person its an insult

Yep,I agree. I have some croatian friends and for them being called a "serbian" is one of the worst insult. :D
Not a nice background behind that insult though...

blahblahyoutoo
01-08-2015, 07:47 PM
Gallo has been decimated by injuries and has no value now, Chandler is the definition of a solid, average NBA starter and those picks are Quincy Miller (D-League), Dario Saric (pick was used to obtain Iguodala, who left in free agency) and what will probably be two late first rounders.

The Knicks still have Carmelo who is an NBA star.

So the trade is basically Chandler and 2 late first round picks for Carmelo.

The Knicks got the better end of that deal.

yup, it may not look like it right now, but melo is carrying this team to a championship in the very, very, very near future.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
01-09-2015, 09:13 AM
Cavs done dealing or some shocking Irving trade in the works?

raiderfaninTX
01-09-2015, 09:19 AM
Cavs done dealing or some shocking Irving trade in the works?

I feel like they need to trade him