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Tg11
12-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Well my top 5 cities that I would go with that NBA definitely should expand to if they do ever decide to expand are:

1- St. Louis- St. Louis if anything they have the revenue to support an NBA team and not to mention they have an MLB team, an NFL team and an NHL team so why not have an NBA team to round out the sports teams they have? Not to mention people in St. Louis love their basketball and I don't think they have had an NBA team in like decades so why not bring basketball back to St. Louis?

2- Seattle- Supersonics, Sonics, whatever you want to call them they deserve a second chance at being in the NBA and when they left most were surprised but broken-hearted. Not to mention the people of Seattle have been craving for basketball and not to mention they have a new arena or they could always build on

3- Pittsburgh- Pittsburgh is a major city that it is surprising that they donít have a team. Pittsburgh is rich in sports history with the Steelers being one of the greatest franchises in the NFL. The Penguins find themselves in the playoffs quite often and the Pirates seem to be getting better. As for basketball there is nothing. Pittsburgh is big enough to support a team easily. Also with Pittsburgh's university basketball team being decent in the NCAA bracket they might help score a NBA team. Consol Energy Center is a rather new arena that would easily fit a NBA team inside. If the NBA was ever to expand donít be surprised to here Pittsburgh come up a lot.

4- Las Vegas- Las Vegas is the gambling capital of America. With casinos and resorts everywhere, Las Vegas is a major vacation spot. Going to a NBA game might become another thing for tourist to do on their vacation. But the locals would finally get the major league team they have been hoping for. Vegas could be a big time player in free agency for certain players who might want to live in Vegas and enjoy it. Tourist could enjoy a game and still go out to the casino after if you get my drift.

5- Buffalo- Imagine if the NBA were to get a team down there in Buffalo? Could you imagine? New York has 2 NBA teams already with the Knicks and now Brooklyn Nets but imagine if they were to have a 3rd NBA team? But not in New York but in Buffalo I honestly think that they could support an NBA team especially if they have the Bills their NFL team

Tg11
12-25-2014, 02:16 PM
Which cities do you think should get NBA teams or which cities do you think will end up with NBA cities if expansion is ever a possibility

Shammyguy3
12-25-2014, 02:31 PM
Don't think the league is anywhere near expansion based on the level of quality and quantity of said quality of players available in each draft. This league isn't suited for more than 30 teams right now.

But, the best cities are the ones that you listed (outside of Buffalo, don't think that's manageable). Not to highjack this thread, but I'd just like to throw this quick thought process at everyone and see if it's rejected by the majority:

Contract 1 team in the league (league now has 29 teams). Allow the 16 best teams into the playoffs each season. Balance the schedule to make that more appropriate (so, you face each of the other 28 teams 3 times for a total of 84 games).

Shady66
12-25-2014, 02:34 PM
Vancouver

Tg11
12-25-2014, 02:35 PM
Don't think the league is anywhere near expansion based on the level of quality and quantity of said quality of players available in each draft. This league isn't suited for more than 30 teams right now.

But, the best cities are the ones that you listed (outside of Buffalo, don't think that's manageable). Not to highjack this thread, but I'd just like to throw this quick thought process at everyone and see if it's rejected by the majority:

Contract 1 team in the league (league now has 29 teams). Allow the 16 best teams into the playoffs each season. Balance the schedule to make that more appropriate (so, you face each of the other 28 teams 3 times for a total of 84 games).

Interesting but I think the league is perfect with 30 teams but if they were to expand then 32 teams for the NBA would actually be perfect, 16 teams in the East and 16 teams in the West it would be perfect

Shammyguy3
12-25-2014, 02:48 PM
Interesting but I think the league is perfect with 30 teams but if they were to expand then 32 teams for the NBA would actually be perfect, 16 teams in the East and 16 teams in the West it would be perfect

No it wouldn't, the league is already thin as it is in terms of franchise-changing players and competitive all-stars at every position. Expanding doesn't mean more Golden States or San Antonio Spurs, it means two more Philadelphia 76ers and Charlotte Bobcats

Tg11
12-25-2014, 03:02 PM
No it wouldn't, the league is already thin as it is in terms of franchise-changing players and competitive all-stars at every position. Expanding doesn't mean more Golden States or San Antonio Spurs, it means two more Philadelphia 76ers and Charlotte Bobcats

Well not necessarily but in most cases yes

Shammyguy3
12-25-2014, 03:25 PM
Well not necessarily but in most cases yes

Nope, there's no case where expansion brings about better teams unless there's a greater insertion of talent in the league which there has not been to account for the current # of teams we currently have anyway

Tg11
12-25-2014, 03:39 PM
Nope, there's no case where expansion brings about better teams unless there's a greater insertion of talent in the league which there has not been to account for the current # of teams we currently have anyway

Actually expansion does bring about better teams case in point for example in the NHL when the Quebec Nordiques became the Colorado Avalanche and in their first season as the Avalanche they ended up winning the Stanley Cup but that is the NHL but in the NBA then you do bring up an interesting point

Shammyguy3
12-25-2014, 04:26 PM
That's not expansion, that's moving a team to a different city and changing its logo & nickname.

Tg11
12-25-2014, 04:36 PM
Fair enough but personally I feel there are cities who are worthy of having teams

Shammyguy3
12-25-2014, 04:49 PM
Fair enough but personally I feel there are cities who are worthy of having teams

Worthy of having teams does not equal a good idea for the NBA to add teams though

smith&wesson
12-25-2014, 04:51 PM
Hell no to a las vegas team... ppl think the league is rigged now ? can you imagine if vegas was in the picture ??

Tg11
12-25-2014, 04:54 PM
Hell no to a las vegas team... ppl think the league is rigged now ? can you imagine if vegas was in the picture ??

Yes but even so they have the revenue to make it happen and not to mention do you know how much media attention a Vegas team would have

Sanjay
12-25-2014, 06:45 PM
Las Vegas has its' pros and cons, but I think it would be a good possibility. How about Kansas City?

Jeffy25
12-25-2014, 07:53 PM
st Louis, Pitt, and Seattle are the three cities I feel.

I don't ever see a professional franchise doing well in Vegas. Not enough permanent residents.

St. Louis would support a team, but know that it's a baseball city first, and will always be. Then hockey, and nobody really cares about the Rams that much. Might take 10+ years for people to actually care.

Seattle would be the best place. They want one badly, and would support it.

There should be a team in Pittsburgh already

JEDean89
12-25-2014, 08:01 PM
IMO there is only two cities that should be considered first, the two largest remaining markets in the US/CA. Seattle is obvious choice as number one, they get the SuperSonics back, a marquee team for the NBA with terrific history. They have an NBA arena though they would probably build a new one, they have the fanbase and they have a demand for the product.

The second is obviously Vancouver, who also have an NBA arena, who have a huge market and are positioned geographically to create fun rivalries against PORT, SEA, etc... It would bring the total team count to 32, you then move one of the Pelicans or Grizzlies to the East. This gives Canadians two teams to chose from and will help expand the game. With guys like Wiggins, Olynyk, Thompson, Bennett, and many other Canadian stars getting set to become household names I think a second team in Canada would do wonders for the league.

I want to wait a bit to expand the league. We are finally seeing some parity in that no one can say who is going to be in the finals from either conference. Every team has at least some talent and more and more young guys are coming into this league with incredible talent. I believe we could be entering into a new Golden Age of basketball, one that is a ton of fun to watch.

MilkyBombs
12-25-2014, 09:33 PM
Can you guys give London, UK a team. 1 game a year isn't enough, but props to the league for even allowing us one game.

Ese Vato Loco
12-25-2014, 10:03 PM
Winnipeg

ATX
12-25-2014, 10:29 PM
With a city population surpassing 1 million (11th largest in the US) and a metro over 2 million, Austin is a great choice. Since the Erwin center is being razed to make way for a new medical school, and there already being 3 NBA teams in Texas, it will be a future long shot at best.

SensandRaps
12-25-2014, 10:37 PM
if we are talking Canada it has to be Vancouver or Montreal

But Seattle needs to be considered first imo

Kinglorious
12-26-2014, 05:27 PM
Seattle should be at the top of the list and is at the top of the list, I'm sure.

asandhu23
12-26-2014, 08:16 PM
Since Warriors are moving to San Francisco and Oakland fans are *****ing about the move, how about Oakland?

Mr.B
12-26-2014, 08:26 PM
The NBA shouldn't expand at all. If anything they should contract. The talent pool is thin enough as it is. I wouldn't have a problem with relocating a current tam but definitely not expansion.

mike_noodles
12-26-2014, 08:59 PM
Van City and Seattle . Move one of NOP or Memphis to the East. It is a great time for expansion given the record revenues generated yearly. Gotta fix other problems though. Need a better way of dispersing the talent.

schilling
12-26-2014, 09:07 PM
I agree that the NBA shouldn't expand in the near future. If the league could downsize, I think it would help improve the overall product (I do not want that necessarily either).

With the NHL apparently close to expanding in Las Vegas, an NBA team could be more likely than many would think.

However, if I could pick, I would like to see Vancouver get another shot at an NBA team, and Seattle. The MLS introduced Portland and Vancouver at the same time, and it created a nice regional rivalry between the two and the Seattle Sounders. From what I have come to know with their other teams' fan-bases, all three cities have passionate crowds at their games (especially Seattle!) and their matchups have big turnouts. Having two close cities coming in to the league at the same time, I think, could have a lot of upside.

Tony_Starks
12-26-2014, 09:08 PM
Compton

Miltstar
12-26-2014, 09:46 PM
San Juan and Mexico City

Bramaca
12-26-2014, 11:46 PM
IMO there is only two cities that should be considered first, the two largest remaining markets in the US/CA. Seattle is obvious choice as number one, they get the SuperSonics back, a marquee team for the NBA with terrific history. They have an NBA arena though they would probably build a new one, they have the fanbase and they have a demand for the product.

The second is obviously Vancouver, who also have an NBA arena, who have a huge market and are positioned geographically to create fun rivalries against PORT, SEA, etc... It would bring the total team count to 32, you then move one of the Pelicans or Grizzlies to the East. This gives Canadians two teams to chose from and will help expand the game. With guys like Wiggins, Olynyk, Thompson, Bennett, and many other Canadian stars getting set to become household names I think a second team in Canada would do wonders for the league.

I want to wait a bit to expand the league. We are finally seeing some parity in that no one can say who is going to be in the finals from either conference. Every team has at least some talent and more and more young guys are coming into this league with incredible talent. I believe we could be entering into a new Golden Age of basketball, one that is a ton of fun to watch.

Montreal is the largest market without an NBA team. It has a metro population of 4.1 million.

Sly Guy
12-27-2014, 12:53 AM
Seattle, Vacouver, Montreal, in that order

*Silver&Black*
12-27-2014, 01:24 AM
Louisville and Seattle

cahawk
12-27-2014, 01:36 AM
SEATTLE, the NBA owes them big time!
Great history.

Miltstar
12-27-2014, 10:19 AM
Montreal is the largest market without an NBA team. It has a metro population of 4.1 million.

Ummm London England... Mexico City...definately bigger markets than Montreal!

Bramaca
12-27-2014, 11:15 AM
Ummm London England... Mexico City...definately bigger markets than Montreal!

Ummm, we are talking about the current market of the NBA (US and Canada).

Miltstar
12-27-2014, 12:10 PM
Ummm, we are talking about the current market of the NBA (US and Canada).

"Citites that the NBA should expand to if the NBA ever expands again"

what part of that says US and Canada?

MILLERHIGHLIFE
12-27-2014, 12:42 PM
Vegas would be bad idea. Could see players in trouble with sports betting and getting drunk and in trouble there or with hookers or whatever. Seattle should be top of the list. Then either Kansas City or Pittsburgh or Louisville next. Maybe Vancouver/Montreal as well. The two buy in's should be auction based to get in. Also with new TV deal ready to kick in and its more then doubled.

A few owners already suggested more then enough money to go around for two expansions teams. But the buy in, it has to make up for losing piece of the pie of 30 teams making 32 pieces to the pie. Players union would agree since it be 30 more players jobs added as in two rosters of 15 possibly. Yeah it dilutes talent pool a bit more. But that's been going on since early expansions since late 80's.

rapsjaysfan88
12-27-2014, 12:50 PM
Seattle, St-Louis, Van city and Montreal.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
12-27-2014, 12:52 PM
Yeah I forgot about St. Louis.

Kaner
12-27-2014, 01:11 PM
IMO there is only two cities that should be considered first, the two largest remaining markets in the US/CA. Seattle is obvious choice as number one, they get the SuperSonics back, a marquee team for the NBA with terrific history. They have an NBA arena though they would probably build a new one, they have the fanbase and they have a demand for the product.

The second is obviously Vancouver, who also have an NBA arena, who have a huge market and are positioned geographically to create fun rivalries against PORT, SEA, etc... It would bring the total team count to 32, you then move one of the Pelicans or Grizzlies to the East. This gives Canadians two teams to chose from and will help expand the game. With guys like Wiggins, Olynyk, Thompson, Bennett, and many other Canadian stars getting set to become household names I think a second team in Canada would do wonders for the league.

I want to wait a bit to expand the league. We are finally seeing some parity in that no one can say who is going to be in the finals from either conference. Every team has at least some talent and more and more young guys are coming into this league with incredible talent. I believe we could be entering into a new Golden Age of basketball, one that is a ton of fun to watch.
That's not true, Montreal has more than a million more people the Vancouver and there are at least a half dozen bigger cities then Seattle without an NBA team including Jacksonville, Austin, San Jose, and Fort Worth. Still think Seattle deserves a team thou.


Seattle, Louisville are the top 2 US candidates in my opinion by a good margin, if it's a 2 team expansion probably something like Seattle and Montreal/Vancouver. I know Silver wants this and it could happen is the next expansion is a general European one with like 5+ teams to create a new division.

Bramaca
12-27-2014, 01:25 PM
"Citites that the NBA should expand to if the NBA ever expands again"

what part of that says US and Canada?

Look at the post I was responding to. The guy was talking about the 2 biggest markets without a team being Seattle and Vancouver. It's pretty much common sense that he was talking about US and Canada. I pointed out that Montreal is the biggest one without a team currently.

Pfeifer
12-27-2014, 01:37 PM
Vancouver would be great but I would be so torn as a raptors fan lol.

IBleedPurple
12-27-2014, 02:29 PM
Hell no to a las vegas team... ppl think the league is rigged now ? can you imagine if vegas was in the picture ??Not just that, but NBA players in Vegas means big trouble. Not everyone plays better drinking until 6AM ala Rodman.

On first thought, as mentioned.....it'd be Seattle, Vancouver, St Louis.

JEDean89
12-27-2014, 02:38 PM
That's not true, Montreal has more than a million more people the Vancouver and there are at least a half dozen bigger cities then Seattle without an NBA team including Jacksonville, Austin, San Jose, and Fort Worth. Still think Seattle deserves a team thou.


Seattle, Louisville are the top 2 US candidates in my opinion by a good margin, if it's a 2 team expansion probably something like Seattle and Montreal/Vancouver. I know Silver wants this and it could happen is the next expansion is a general European one with like 5+ teams to create a new division.

true about montreal but austin has 3 nba teams in their state and san jose has 4 teams. though there are not teams there, the market is still largely captured. montreal or vancouver outside of seattle then. no sense in giving cali their 5th team, texas their 4th or florida their 3rd.

Shareeb_omac2
12-27-2014, 03:32 PM
Baltimore.

Miltstar
12-27-2014, 04:46 PM
we have a hard enough time finding NBA players wanting to play in Toronto. I can't imagine the reaction of players being drafted or traded to Montreal!!! Remember when Francis was drafted by Vancouver?!? Montreal would likely have to rely heavily on European talent to even have a chance at keeping any of their stars around

Chronz
12-27-2014, 06:54 PM
The NBA shouldn't expand at all. If anything they should contract. The talent pool is thin enough as it is. I wouldn't have a problem with relocating a current tam but definitely not expansion.

What makes you think its thin?

Mr.B
12-27-2014, 07:10 PM
What makes you think its thin?

Are you serious? The draft is 2 rounds. Three years from now there MAY be 10 to 15 guys from the next rookie class (including undrafted guys) still in the NBA. And that's factoring in underclass men, d-leaguers, and foreign born players. The last thing the NBA needs is more teams diluting the product. If I wanted to watch bad basketball I would watch the college game.

Crackadalic
12-27-2014, 07:51 PM
I would bring Seattle back though

smith&wesson
12-27-2014, 08:01 PM
not only should they not expand the league, they should actually take a few teams out. shorten the season a bit for less injuries and have more parity with talent spread among the remaining teams.

Tony_Starks
12-27-2014, 09:35 PM
What makes you think its thin?

Are you serious? The draft is 2 rounds. Three years from now there MAY be 10 to 15 guys from the next rookie class (including undrafted guys) still in the NBA. And that's factoring in underclass men, d-leaguers, and foreign born players. The last thing the NBA needs is more teams diluting the product. If I wanted to watch bad basketball I would watch the college game.

I tend to agree with this. Look at the East, you could have basically just fast forwarded to the ECF for like what the past 10 years? Two top teams, maybe 3, with everyone else fighting to "make noise." Could you imagine if they further diluted it? It would be like mixing water into a wine cooler....

goingfor28
12-28-2014, 12:39 AM
Seattle. And Vancouver.

LA_Raiders
12-29-2014, 04:01 AM
It's not possible at the moment. The NBA as mentioned before is very thin in talent, and with the big 3s and 4s teaming up; it is leaving teams with little talent to compete.

SF8
12-29-2014, 06:51 AM
Compton

^this.

Can you imagine how many NBA players would want to pull a LeBron and "go back home" to play for their hometown team in Compton?

A team in Compton or Pasadena would pull in MAJOR free agents imo.

Goose17
12-29-2014, 07:02 AM
Nope, there's no case where expansion brings about better teams unless there's a greater insertion of talent in the league which there has not been to account for the current # of teams we currently have anyway

Or if they change the rules. One max contract per team or something similar to limit one team hoarding all the talent.

A lot of it would depend on location. Small market teams in "boring" cities struggle to keep talent so repeatedly end up overpaying players. If you were to expand into cities that free agents would like living in, that would help a little.

And I don't think the league is as thin on talent as you're making out. It's just that the majority of talent is out West. There's 8 high caliber teams out West all of whom could be contenders right now or within 2-3 seasons. Then there's a couple more really good competitive playoff caliber teams and maybe one more that isn't quote there yet.

Out east you have 2, maybe 3 contenders. One more potential contender and a bunch of teams that are only qualifying for the post season because they're in the East.

Anyway, as for expansions, I think Canada should have another team personally. I would have one in Canada and one in either Seattle or Pittsburgh.