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HouRealCoach
12-24-2014, 11:16 AM
I remember this draft coverage and everyone acted like after Kyrie, Williams, and Kanter there was nothing left. With Nikola Vucevic, Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, Morris twins, Reggie Jackson, Tobias Harris, Chandler Parsons, etc. this draft has really surprised me. Turning out to be a damn good draft with someone emerging to that next step each year

JasonJohnHorn
12-24-2014, 01:17 PM
Well... this season is essentially what would have been their rookie years 20 years ago, before everybody started leaving after one year.

With the odd exception, either a guy who stays four years, or a guy who is just phenomenal, the All-Star rookie seasons are pretty much a thing of the past. These guys don't come in and make an impact right away. They need two or three years to develop.

Most of these guys are 22 or 23 years old, which is how old they would be if they were just coming out of college. Now they look like guys who can contribute.

The problem is that fans and owners are still going to have high expectations for rookies, and if a guy only averages 8 points and 6 rebounds, they are liable to see him as a bust if he is a top five pick, but the reality is that 8 points and 6 rebounds a game is the NBA is great for a kid who is only 19 and isn't even old enough to drink yet. I mean, there are people that are 19 and are still in high-school.

So... yeah.. the 2011 draft looks a lot better now than it did in 2011. There are some solid players: Irving, Tobias Harris, Vucevic, Leonard, Faried, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson, Brewer, Butler, Isaiah Thomas, Singler....

You can make a contender with that group of guys now.

jon32
12-24-2014, 01:48 PM
Jonas Valanciunas is becoming a very good player also

Even Corey Joseph and Montiejunas are pretty solid players

Sanjay
12-25-2014, 07:21 PM
Well... this season is essentially what would have been their rookie years 20 years ago, before everybody started leaving after one year.

With the odd exception, either a guy who stays four years, or a guy who is just phenomenal, the All-Star rookie seasons are pretty much a thing of the past. These guys don't come in and make an impact right away. They need two or three years to develop.

Most of these guys are 22 or 23 years old, which is how old they would be if they were just coming out of college. Now they look like guys who can contribute.

The problem is that fans and owners are still going to have high expectations for rookies, and if a guy only averages 8 points and 6 rebounds, they are liable to see him as a bust if he is a top five pick, but the reality is that 8 points and 6 rebounds a game is the NBA is great for a kid who is only 19 and isn't even old enough to drink yet. I mean, there are people that are 19 and are still in high-school.

So... yeah.. the 2011 draft looks a lot better now than it did in 2011. There are some solid players: Irving, Tobias Harris, Vucevic, Leonard, Faried, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson, Brewer, Butler, Isaiah Thomas, Singler....

You can make a contender with that group of guys now.

Good point, also great to see players who were underrated in college/high school make an impact in the NBA (Isaiah Thomas drafted last because of his size is now a solid player for the Suns, Parsons drafted 38th is now a consistent three-point shooter for the Mavericks and Jimmy Butler taken with the last pick in the first round is now a potential All-Star).