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MackShock
11-15-2014, 01:25 AM
Just a question I had, and wanted to see what others thought. How is he doing without his two superstars?

InRoseWeTrust
11-15-2014, 01:29 AM
I've never liked him, so I'm not sure about calling him "overrated." I've always had three problems with him:

(1) His offensive game plan has always been "play on an elite level", which isn't sustainable long term.
(2) He becomes way to reliant on vets (see, e.g., Fisher, Butler last year) when I think OKC would be better off giving burn to younger players.
(3) Wtf is with his man crush on Perkins.

mightybosstone
11-15-2014, 01:32 AM
I don't think Scott has ever been a particularly good coach, but I don't think you can blame their poor start on bad coaching. If anything, playing without Westy and Durant, I think this has pretty much been a best case scenario. They got some pretty good wins against Sacramento and a feisty Boston team, and those losses against Memphis and Detroit were damn close losses.

No matter who the coach is, a team with Ibaka and Jackson as its two best players would struggle mightily just to win 30 games. If they can win a couple of other games by the time Westbrook and/or Durant get back, that team will have done the best it could have hoped to accomplish.

MackShock
11-15-2014, 01:36 AM
How is Scott Brooks compared to Erik Spoelstra?

zn23
11-15-2014, 01:44 AM
He was exposed while he was coaching Cleveland. The few good years he had were because of CP3.

cmellofan15
11-15-2014, 01:50 AM
having 6 players injured doesn't qualify as being exposed.

Arch Stanton
11-15-2014, 01:55 AM
He was exposed while he was coaching Cleveland. The few good years he had were because of CP3.

That's Byron Scott, not Scott Brooks.

FOBolous
11-15-2014, 01:59 AM
i really don't think you can do much with OKC's roster without Durant and Westbrook...especially with how tought the western conference is

Iron24th
11-15-2014, 03:00 AM
He was exposed while he was coaching Cleveland. The few good years he had were because of CP3.

:facepalm: When did Brooks coached cleveland?

Goose17
11-15-2014, 03:21 AM
He was exposed while he was coaching Cleveland. The few good years he had were because of CP3.

Chris Paul played in Cleveland? Guess I missed that.

Mr.B
11-15-2014, 03:56 AM
I don't think Scott has ever been a particularly good coach, but I don't think you can blame their poor start on bad coaching. If anything, playing without Westy and Durant, I think this has pretty much been a best case scenario. They got some pretty good wins against Sacramento and a feisty Boston team, and those losses against Memphis and Detroit were damn close losses.

No matter who the coach is, a team with Ibaka and Jackson as its two best players would struggle mightily just to win 30 games. If they can win a couple of other games by the time Westbrook and/or Durant get back, that team will have done the best it could have hoped to accomplish.

I agree. I've never been impressed with Scott Brooks. There are a hand full of other coaches that I think could have gotten more from the talent on that team. With that being said he has shown this year that he actually is a good coach. If any team in the NBA lost its best two players they would also struggle.

abe_froman
11-15-2014, 04:00 AM
no,i dunno anyone who rates him that high so he cant really be overrated because of that

honestly,what did you expect out of such a team as they have right now.did you think reggie jackson and anthony morrow would lead them to a 50 win pace?

MackShock
11-15-2014, 04:09 AM
Reggie Jackson has filled in pretty nicely I must say.

Legitimate
11-15-2014, 04:32 AM
byron scott didn't coach OKC, lmfao

koreancabbage
11-15-2014, 08:15 AM
OkC has been keeping up with all or most of the games they have played this far.

ILLUSIONIST^248
11-15-2014, 08:32 AM
He's definitely one of the worst coaches in the NBA and should have been canned two years ago. West and Durant deserve better.

ILLUSIONIST^248
11-15-2014, 08:33 AM
Lol zn23

JasonJohnHorn
11-15-2014, 09:05 AM
It's been exposed! When he doesn't have three franchise players in KD, Westy and Harden, and had his defensive specialist Sefolosha gone and is only left with Perkins and Ibaka, he can't compete with the elite teams in the west.


Is there ANY coach that would be winning games with this roster? Seriously? What do you expect?

Arch Stanton
11-15-2014, 10:56 AM
byron scott didn't coach OKC, lmfao

Who said that he did?

InRoseWeTrust
11-15-2014, 11:16 AM
Who said that he did?

Lmao epic sig

blahblahyoutoo
11-15-2014, 11:43 AM
That's Byron Scott, not Scott Brooks.

Those white and black guys all look alike.

sheesh
11-15-2014, 01:09 PM
He should be fired honestly. He's one of the longest tenured coaches in the league. He hasn't won a title even though he's got the best scorer by far in the league.

Now without KD he really showing his ineptitude.

sens#11fan
11-15-2014, 01:10 PM
Honestly, I think he's doing a pretty good job so far. Apart, from the Nets game they've kept it close in a lot of games, until they reached the 4th quarter. However, when you got so many players injured fatigue starts to play a toll on player during games, which accumulates to the next game. Especially, when you have players who are not use to so much playing time play big minutes.

KnicksorBust
11-15-2014, 01:12 PM
It's been exposed! When he doesn't have three franchise players in KD, Westy and Harden, and had his defensive specialist Sefolosha gone and is only left with Perkins and Ibaka, he can't compete with the elite teams in the west.


Is there ANY coach that would be winning games with this roster? Seriously? What do you expect?

Thibs and Pop.

lamzoka
11-15-2014, 03:41 PM
He was exposed while he was coaching Cleveland. The few good years he had were because of CP3.

Just stick to soccer man

Hawkeye15
11-15-2014, 03:48 PM
It's been exposed! When he doesn't have three franchise players in KD, Westy and Harden, and had his defensive specialist Sefolosha gone and is only left with Perkins and Ibaka, he can't compete with the elite teams in the west.


Is there ANY coach that would be winning games with this roster? Seriously? What do you expect?

literally this...

sheesh
11-15-2014, 03:51 PM
literally this...

How many coaches in the NBA have a longer tenure on an NBA team? How many have not won a championship who are longer tenured? How many coaches have had the best scorer in the NBA for 5 years and not produced a ring?

albertajaysfan
11-15-2014, 04:06 PM
He was exposed while he was coaching Cleveland. The few good years he had were because of CP3.

what?

JasonJohnHorn
11-15-2014, 09:48 PM
How many coaches in the NBA have a longer tenure on an NBA team? How many have not won a championship who are longer tenured? How many coaches have had the best scorer in the NBA for 5 years and not produced a ring?

Having the best scorer doesn't make you a champion. You need more than that.

He got to the finals with Westy, KD and Harden and lost to a better Miami team. Since then, he's ownership let players go and he has dealt with injury in the play offs.

Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Magic had Kareem and Worthy and Cooper and Nixon.... Bird had Parish and McHale.... LBJ had Wade and Bosh.

KD has a ball-hogging Westy and a roster that get depleted every season. I'm not saying that Scott Brooks is the best coach, but I will say that their not winning a championship is not on him. They should still have Harden and Sefolosha on that team, and if they did, they'd be over .500

And keep in mind, Sloan coached in Utah for like over 20 years without a championship and they never fired him and he's in the HOF now.

sheesh
11-15-2014, 11:58 PM
Having the best scorer doesn't make you a champion. You need more than that.

He got to the finals with Westy, KD and Harden and lost to a better Miami team. Since then, he's ownership let players go and he has dealt with injury in the play offs.

Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Magic had Kareem and Worthy and Cooper and Nixon.... Bird had Parish and McHale.... LBJ had Wade and Bosh.

KD has a ball-hogging Westy and a roster that get depleted every season. I'm not saying that Scott Brooks is the best coach, but I will say that their not winning a championship is not on him. They should still have Harden and Sefolosha on that team, and if they did, they'd be over .500

And keep in mind, Sloan coached in Utah for like over 20 years without a championship and they never fired him and he's in the HOF now.

Sloan is a rarity. Coaches in the NBA don't last long at all unless they produce a ring. That's tough. But hey lots of guys are getting fired for not winning rings and they don't have a top 2 player in the world.

FlashBolt
11-16-2014, 01:27 AM
While I do agree Scott Brooks isn't my favorite cup of tea amongst coaches, this is unfair:
1) OKC vs Miami, Finals, okay.. that wasn't their fault. It was too early for them.
2) OKC vs Spurs.. That Spurs team was dominant. Can't blame them.
3) OKC vs Spurs... We lost Ibaka for the first few games. With Ibaka, I think we could have had a chance.. but against Miami, we probably would have lost. Not sure but Ibaka was HUGE for us when he came back.
4) Westbrook is out. Durant is out. We traded our second best defender. Jeremy Lamb was out. Our prized shooter, Morrow, was out. We really had no one. It was down to seven players at one point.. Reggie Jackson has been impressive but when Kendrick Perkins is one of your options to score the ball due to limited availability, that tells you something. I don't blame him at all this season. Injuries and stuff like this happen. It's just sad because we are going to miss the playoffs and pretty soon, KD will have to face free agency. Scott Brooks should be replaced after this year. I remember when Miami beat us, he said to congratulate Miami and that it was hard fought. That was his best thing yet. Other than that, he's just your everyday coach.

YAALREADYKNO
11-17-2014, 11:15 AM
He relied to much on Durant and Westbrook bailing them out with shot after shot. When it came down to drawing up a good play, his play would consist of just throwing the ball into Durant or Westbrook and letting them go one on one.

HeatFan
11-17-2014, 07:06 PM
I don't think Scott has ever been a particularly good coach, but I don't think you can blame their poor start on bad coaching. If anything, playing without Westy and Durant, I think this has pretty much been a best case scenario. They got some pretty good wins against Sacramento and a feisty Boston team, and those losses against Memphis and Detroit were damn close losses.

No matter who the coach is, a team with Ibaka and Jackson as its two best players would struggle mightily just to win 30 games. If they can win a couple of other games by the time Westbrook and/or Durant get back, that team will have done the best it could have hoped to accomplish.

A healthy lineup with a different coach (like a Rick Carlisle) I would have as my favorite. That said, too many injuries in OKC to blame it on Brooks. They have stayed in some games in spite of injuries, so that does go to his credit.

koreancabbage
11-18-2014, 04:01 AM
He relied to much on Durant and Westbrook bailing them out with shot after shot. When it came down to drawing up a good play, his play would consist of just throwing the ball into Durant or Westbrook and letting them go one on one.

Well let's take a look at what you just said. These are some of the best break-down-your-man players in the NBA. Going to one of them in an ISO play is ideal.

YAALREADYKNO
11-18-2014, 10:34 AM
Well let's take a look at what you just said. These are some of the best break-down-your-man players in the NBA. Going to one of them in an ISO play is ideal.

Their offense would go stale sometimes. Game 6 against the spurs last yr. It was westbrook take 3 shots Durant take 1. No ball movement at the end of the game is what cost them that game last yr

GoferKing_
11-18-2014, 11:07 AM
When do we bash Spo? xD

koreancabbage
11-18-2014, 12:18 PM
Their offense would go stale sometimes. Game 6 against the spurs last yr. It was westbrook take 3 shots Durant take 1. No ball movement at the end of the game is what cost them that game last yr

cept Spurs were one of the best defensive teams in the playoffs last year and won the chip. Look at Miami and how the ball stuck and didn't move much because of the Spurs great defense.

It wasn't OKC's fault as the Spurs were the superior team.

PayDaPiper
11-18-2014, 12:32 PM
I think to a certain extent all coaches are overrated/underrated. There are some truly great ones, Popovich, Phil Jackson... But you put me on the sidelines with a healthy OKC roster and ill bring them to the playoffs.