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11-09-2014, 02:11 AM
Since 1983, the following teams have not won a championship:

Cavaliers
Pacers
Jazz
Suns
Nets
Magic
Kings
Hawks
Bucks
Knicks
Warriors
Blazers
Wizards
Thunder
76ers
Clippers
Nuggets
Timberwolves
Pelicans
Hornets
Raptors
Grizzliers

Underlined are teams that have never made the Finals.
Italics are teams that have never won a Finals.

That's 22 teams out of 30.

Isn't this stat disheartening? What's the cause? Is there any remedy?

lamzoka
11-09-2014, 02:15 AM
90% of those teams will not win a championship in the next 30 years.

abe_froman
11-09-2014, 02:22 AM
championships in the nba come in bunches,dynasties.once a team hits on the championship formula ,its nearly impossible to stop.you couple that with many of those franchises enduring long stretches of terrible management/ownership and there ya go.

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11-09-2014, 02:33 AM
Comparison:

In baseball, the only teams that have not won a World Series since 1983 are:

Rangers
Padres
Rays
Rockies
Astros
Brewers
Mariners
Nationals / Expos
Cubs
Pirates

Underlined have never made the World Series.
Italics have never won a World Series.

That's just 10 out 30, versus 22 out of 30 in NBA. 12 more teams have been crowned champions in baseball than in basketball since 1983.
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In NFL, the following have not won a Superbowl since 1983:

Texans
Jaguars
Lions
Browns
Vikings
Bills
Bengals
Eagles
Chargers
Falcons
Titans
Panthers
Cardinals
Chiefs
Jets
Dolphins

Underlined have never made a Superbowl appearance.
Italics have never won a Superbowl.

That's just 16 out of 32, equal to 15 out of 30 ratio. The NBA would need to crown 7 more champions to match the NFL.

abe_froman
11-09-2014, 02:40 AM
those are different sports,different construction of the games and how they are played ,making it more up in the air than this one.

Jeffy25
11-09-2014, 03:24 AM
Well baseball has more champions because of the nature of the game. The best team isn't always the team that wins in baseball, it's the team that executes the best at the right time.

How often does the better team win a game in the NBA? 70-80% of the time? Meaning the better team wins most best of 7 series'

How often does the better team win a game in the NFL? 66-75% of the time? Meaning the better team wins most playoff games, but not always

In baseball, the better team wins only maybe 60% of the time. And it changes every time based on whomever your pitcher is that day. So any team can win a best of 7 series.


That and baseball has been around a lot longer, so some franchises of won a WS a long time ago (Cubs) but haven't been good for awhile.

IBleedPurple
11-09-2014, 03:06 PM
Same 'ol sorry in the NBA. A few powerhouses win the majority, and there will be a surprise every few years. With only 5 players on the court at once, it is easier for the good teams to sustain or regain success with 1 or 2 free agent moves or trades. Not as easy in other sports.

HoopsDrive
11-09-2014, 03:51 PM
4 rounds of best of 7 pretty much guarantees no underdog will ever win it all in the NBA. There have been several upsets in the first round but as you go deeper in the playoffs, the odds that an underdog will beat consecutive favorites start to decrease considerably. What you get then are the real contenders every season, so you may not get the best team in the league to actually win it all every season but the winner will definitely be a contender and not just a team that got hot at the right time.

Rule of thumb is, the more games there are, the less the underdog's chances. Reason we see the usual suspects in the NBA is down to good management and the difficulty in assembling a real contending side for a lot of small market teams. Factor in the format that gives the best chance for the contenders to come out on top and you get this.

albertajaysfan
11-09-2014, 03:59 PM
One or two players in the NBA can make such a huge difference. Especially when comparing it to other team sports.

For this season you need look for further then OKC to see what happens when you lose your top two players. Plus as mentioned above the setup of the NBA playoffs diminishes the chances of an underdog making all the way to the finals let alone winning.

joshhorvath
11-09-2014, 04:38 PM
ummm.. weres the nhl stat?

PhillyFaninLA
11-09-2014, 05:11 PM
Off the top of my head

Lakers maybe 10
Celtics maybe 5
Bulls 6
Rockets 2
Spurs 3 or 4
Heat 3

That is 25 of the 31.

The NBA has always been same old same old

Jeffy25
11-09-2014, 05:24 PM
ummm.. weres the nhl stat?

Nobody cares about the NHL south of Canada ;)

tredigs
11-09-2014, 05:45 PM
Because in the NBA a dominant player(s) have more impact than any other team sport. And dominant players don't generally stay with **** franchises and great role players don't ring chase on them.

numba1CHANGsta
11-09-2014, 05:46 PM
Cuz the Lakers are the best team in NBA history duh

alexander_37
11-09-2014, 06:02 PM
Because the NBA is a slanted top heavy league. Always has always will be they are by far the most corrupt worst run league in North American pro sports after boxing.

tredigs
11-09-2014, 06:06 PM
Because the NBA is a slanted top heavy league. Always has always will be they are by far the most corrupt worst run league in North American pro sports after boxing.

Which is why the CP3 to Lakers trade was denied and them, Boston and NY are all crap, right?

amos1er
11-09-2014, 06:22 PM
Which is why the CP3 to Lakers trade was denied and them, Boston and NY are all crap, right?

He is saying that there is corruption... If the CP3 incident isn't corruption, then I don't know what is.

amos1er
11-09-2014, 06:33 PM
Do we really need a thread about this... Obviously cash flow, location, and how good one's front office is has a lot to do with it.

Dade County
11-09-2014, 06:47 PM
Because the NBA is a slanted top heavy league. Always has always will be they are by far the most corrupt worst run league in North American pro sports after boxing.

Money post... End thread worthy.

alexander_37
11-09-2014, 06:50 PM
Its sad because basketball is probably my favorite sport but I can't stand the NBA.

*drops mic*

tredigs
11-09-2014, 06:52 PM
He is saying that there is corruption... If the CP3 incident isn't corruption, then I don't know what is.

The NBA had control of the team at that point. They very correctly denied the trade in order for the Hornets not to sink their franchise on account of their own stupidity. Had they not had to take control of the team, they would have let them sink themselves. They are in a better spot for it.

It is arguably the least corrupt move by an organization in sports history, and took a lot of balls to do it in a place that would have boosted the NBA's golden child.

Jeffy25
11-09-2014, 07:12 PM
He is saying that there is corruption... If the CP3 incident isn't corruption, then I don't know what is.

corruption?

The Hornets/Pelicans are now better because that deal didn't happen. They wouldn't have the Brow if they had made that deal.

It was better for them, and the NBA was running that team. That isn't corruption, it was for the betterment of the Pelcians.

Bruno
11-09-2014, 07:13 PM
He is saying that there is corruption... If the CP3 incident isn't corruption, then I don't know what is.
i don't think it was corruption I think it was incompetence.

the NBA should have never held control of an NBA franchise. and they shouldn't have ever allowed a trade that they had jurisdiction over to become public if it was only going to end in veto.

Stern allowing that to go public ruined the Lakers relationship with Gasol and Odom. Gasol, Odom, Bynum/Howard all gone for noting. that's how a team collapses and finds itself in purgatory.

mike_noodles
11-09-2014, 09:26 PM
Because the NBA is the only pro league where 2 great players can make you a contender for 15 years.

STRIKERC
11-10-2014, 11:12 AM
This is exactly why Sixers management is sticking it up to the league. Sam Hinkie prolly looked at the stat on and said, screw the NBA, we're going to do whatever we can within the rules to get us those two franchise players.

SportsFanatic10
11-10-2014, 01:18 PM
because it's a star driven league and stars like to play for certain franchises for a variety of reasons. mainly organizational stability, storied history, and market size besides money.

KnicksorBust
11-10-2014, 01:46 PM
Because the NBA is the only pro league where 2 great players can make you a contender for 15 years.

NFL QBs can carry a franchise as well but basically this.

Stinkyoutsider
11-10-2014, 02:18 PM
This very reason is why there needs to be a mid-season tournament or some different tournaments throughout the league year. Like a single elimination tournament similar to March Madness.

There might be some teams who don't make it to the finals in the next 20 or 30 years but at least they have a chance to raise a trophy from a tournament mid-season. Fans of small market teams could also experience supporting a championship team. It may not be a league title but it's still a championship. Maybe even have a world championship where the best teams from each part of the world come together for another title?

Zefflin
11-10-2014, 02:26 PM
Because of guys named Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Larry Bid, Magic, Tim Duncan, Shaq and Kobe taking rings away from everybody else.

SoFreshNsoClean
11-10-2014, 03:00 PM
because it's a star driven league and stars like to play for certain franchises for a variety of reasons. mainly organizational stability, storied history, and market size besides money.

came to post this

alexander_37
11-10-2014, 03:17 PM
Because of guys named Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Larry Bid, Magic, Tim Duncan, Shaq and Kobe taking rings away from everybody else.

If Jordan didn't play at the same time as Hakeem he would have at least 4 rings IMHO.

Same with the bad boys Pistions ect.

jp611
11-10-2014, 03:32 PM
Because the NBA is a slanted top heavy league. Always has always will be they are by far the most corrupt worst run league in North American pro sports after boxing.

:laugh2:

The NBA is the most smoothly run pro association. There's no concussion scandals, no PED scandal. The new TV deal for the NBA proves that they are only going to be getting bigger as well. NBA is taking off as a league right now, entering another NBA golden era.

Stern and now Silver are the best commissioners in the modern era of sports and it's by a landslide.

jp611
11-10-2014, 03:35 PM
This very reason is why there needs to be a mid-season tournament or some different tournaments throughout the league year. Like a single elimination tournament similar to March Madness.

There might be some teams who don't make it to the finals in the next 20 or 30 years but at least they have a chance to raise a trophy from a tournament mid-season. Fans of small market teams could also experience supporting a championship team. It may not be a league title but it's still a championship. Maybe even have a world championship where the best teams from each part of the world come together for another title?

Puke.

NBA is fine the way it is. They don't need to make it gimmicky to get people to watch.

alexander_37
11-10-2014, 06:14 PM
:laugh2:

The NBA is the most smoothly run pro association. There's no concussion scandals, no PED scandal. The new TV deal for the NBA proves that they are only going to be getting bigger as well. NBA is taking off as a league right now, entering another NBA golden era.

Stern and now Silver are the best commissioners in the modern era of sports and it's by a landslide.


Puke.

NBA is fine the way it is. They don't need to make it gimmicky to get people to watch.

What...... .... .. .. I honestly don't even know what to say to that.