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RocketLoc80
09-05-2014, 02:24 PM
I got this idea from another thread and I wanted to pose it here . So for the last decade who would you say was the most talented team in the league the past 10 seasons?

2003-04 ?
04-05 ?
05-06 ?
06-07 ?
07-08 ?
08-09 ?
09-10 ?
10-11 ?
11-12 ?
12-13 ?
13-14 ?

Chronz
09-05-2014, 02:35 PM
Talent can vary depending on health. For example, the 03-04 Lakers were the most talented team in the league when they were healthy, at the very least 2nd most talented, but come Finals, without Malone/Grant, they wouldn't be in my top4. The Pistons talent level is ridiculously underrated because their star was a defender and their 2nd best player was ridiculously efficient with a poor fg%(worst measure of efficiency) instead of being a high PPG guy.

RocketLoc80
09-05-2014, 02:37 PM
Talent can vary depending on health. For example, the 03-04 Lakers were the most talented team in the league when they were healthy, at the very least 2nd most talented, but come Finals, without Malone/Grant, they wouldn't be in my top4. The Pistons talent level is ridiculously underrated because their star was a defender and their 2nd best player was ridiculously efficient with a poor fg%(worst measure of efficiency) instead of being a high PPG guy.


I see what you are saying for the past 10 years what is your list?

Clippersfan86
09-05-2014, 02:51 PM
2014- Spurs
2013- Clippers
2012- Heat
2011- Heat
2010- Lakers
2009- Celtics
2008- Celtics
2007- Spurs
2006- Mavs
2005- Spurs
2004- Pistons

I'll only go back 10 years.

kingsdelez24
09-06-2014, 08:25 PM
The 04 Kings were amazing when Webber was out and Brad Miller filling in. By the time C-webb came back, he was robbed of much of his athleticism and threw the chemistry off. I drool at the thought of a pre-microfracture Webber on that team. They are darkhorses in this

kingsdelez24
09-08-2014, 02:39 AM
Bumping this because I want someone to challenge me for the 03-04 season

Clippersfan86
09-08-2014, 03:50 AM
Bumping this because I want someone to challenge me for the 03-04 season

You think that team was better than the Pistons or Lakers? In fact.. this thread is purely about talent (paper strength top to bottom), I change my answer to the Lakers. That was the year when they put Malone+Payton with Kobe/Shaq. ONLY reason it didn't work out was injury issues. That was one of the most stacked teams in NBA history.

Chronz
09-08-2014, 04:23 AM
Bumping this because I want someone to challenge me for the 03-04 season

Maker bless ur heart


03-04 is E.Z.


The Pistons went 17-4 in the games that Sheed started and started setting all sorts of defensive records. They were able to play Shaq 1 on 1 and only get semi-obliterated. They shut down any wing scorer that tried to put up pts.


The Lakers with Malone were able to put up similarly dominant numbers, but they didn't finish the season on top.

2003-04 : Pistons
04-05 : Spurs (Heat were injured)
05-06 : Mavs/Spurs
06-07 Spurs
07-08 Celtics/Lakers
08-09 Lakers
09-10 Lakers
10-11 Heat
11-12 Heat/Thunder
12-13 Spurs
13-14 Spurs

kingsdelez24
09-08-2014, 12:45 PM
Bumping this because I want someone to challenge me for the 03-04 season

Maker bless ur heart


03-04 is E.Z.


The Pistons went 17-4 in the games that Sheed started and started setting all sorts of defensive records. They were able to play Shaq 1 on 1 and only get semi-obliterated. They shut down any wing scorer that tried to put up pts.


The Lakers with Malone were able to put up similarly dominant numbers, but they didn't finish the season on top.

2003-04 : Pistons
04-05 : Spurs (Heat were injured)
05-06 : Mavs/Spurs
06-07 Spurs
07-08 Celtics/Lakers
08-09 Lakers
09-10 Lakers
10-11 Heat
11-12 Heat/Thunder
12-13 Spurs
13-14 Spurs

The kings held the best record in the league at 43-15 when Webber was out and Peja was considered an mvp candidate

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2004.html

Thumper 88
09-08-2014, 12:48 PM
06-07 I would give to the Mavs.. They were set to win it all then lost in the first round.

They won 67 games while starting the season losing the first 4 and Dirk with the mvp

TylerSL
09-09-2014, 08:34 PM
2003-2004-Detroit Pistons
2004-2005-San Antonio Spurs
2005-2006-Dallas Mavericks
2006-2007-San Antonio Spurs
2007-2008-Boston Celtics
2008-2009-Boston Celtics (before KG got hurt), Los Angeles Lakers in playoffs
2009-2010-Los Angeles Lakers
2010-2011-Miami Heat
2011-2012-Miami Heat
2012-2013-Miami Heat
2013-2014-San Antonio Spurs

DemarDerozan
09-09-2014, 10:21 PM
You think that team was better than the Pistons or Lakers? In fact.. this thread is purely about talent (paper strength top to bottom), I change my answer to the Lakers. That was the year when they put Malone+Payton with Kobe/Shaq. ONLY reason it didn't work out was injury issues. That was one of the most stacked teams in NBA history.

The only reason it didn't work out is that the Pistons destroyed the Lakers and tore apart Phil Jackson's offensive schemes. If they were healthier it may have been closer... But no one should pretend that the 03-04 Finals were even close.

Chronz
09-10-2014, 12:58 AM
The only reason it didn't work out is that the Pistons destroyed the Lakers and tore apart Phil Jackson's offensive schemes. If they were healthier it may have been closer... But no one should pretend that the 03-04 Finals were even close.

To be fair, Phil couldn't really run his offensive schemes with Kobe in full **** all mode.

DemarDerozan
09-10-2014, 02:01 AM
To be fair, Phil couldn't really run his offensive schemes with Kobe in full **** all mode.

That's true... Locker room drama was transparent on the floor.
Can you imagine if the Lakers had won though?
What would we be talking about right now if Shaq and Bean stuck together and won out through 06?

Shlumpledink
09-10-2014, 02:43 AM
I don't know if I would call the pistons team better than the Lakers team, the Pistons team was just healthier.

They were able to beat shaq by having rasheed play off of his man and sit in shaq's lap, or hang around and deny penetration/passing lanes. Giving the ball to Slava was how the Lakers were supposed to beat them. Red faced Slava Medvedenko or ROOKIE Brian cook. Putting rookie Luke Walton in surprised the pistons enough with his passing ability and less useless nature, but that didn't last long.

Doesn't mean they had more talent though. Chauncey/Tayshon/Rasheed/Ben Wallace/Rip Hamilton are all talented players, but they aren't more talented than Payton/Kobe/Devean (okay maybe him)/Malone/Shaq

It was injuries that allowed the Pistons to really play to their strengths and dominate.

Gary Payton was also the reason why Phil went away from the triangle more, and why Rick Fox was asking Phil to play so he could run the triangle. But nope! Didn't work with Gary Payton. Gary didn't want to be a role player yet, he wanted to score. So Phil augmented it to try and get Gary Payton early scores in order for him to play the defense that most people were accustomed to seeing (we didn't get to see it)

I'll go through the teams later and give my opinion on the best teams later on, too tired.

kingsdelez24
09-10-2014, 12:42 PM
Still maintaining that the Kings had thr best record in the league until Webber came back that year

Chronz
09-10-2014, 01:11 PM
Still maintaining that the Kings had thr best record in the league until Webber came back that year

Pistons only had Rasheed for the final portion of their season, it was a match made in heaven, especially given the defensive rules in place at the time. Pistons prolly had the superior SRS/Efficiency Differentials.

Lakers didn't have Malone for most of the season either. These are factors to consider along with the Webber factor.

I gotta admit it was close, I just have a hard time believing the Kings would have sustained that play had Webber never came back.

kingsdelez24
09-11-2014, 01:16 AM
Pistons only had Rasheed for the final portion of their season, it was a match made in heaven, especially given the defensive rules in place at the time. Pistons prolly had the superior SRS/Efficiency Differentials.

Lakers didn't have Malone for most of the season either. These are factors to consider along with the Webber factor.

I gotta admit it was close, I just have a hard time believing the Kings would have sustained that play had Webber never came back.

I haven't searched for many stats, but those 04 kings were definitely ruined by Webber's return.

Well clearly when Webber came back absolutely ruined the chemistry they had. Peja was content as the number 1 option with Divac and Miller feeding him the ball all the time with the Princeton offense (And with the year he was having, I don't blame him) and having the shell of Webber take his touches away, and playing poorly while doing it, caused some friction between the two as far as I remember.

Divac and Brad Miller also played more efficiently together and were a much more formidable passing duo. The Kings offense that year was arguably some of the best of the Adleman era. I even remember that Divac averaged 8.5 assists a game in the month of February that year.