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-Lavigne43-
09-02-2014, 06:10 PM
9/2-9/4
@ Yankees

9/5-9/7
vs Blue Jays

9/8-9/10
vs Orioles

9/11-9/14
@ Royals

9/16-9/18
@ Pirates

9/19-9/21
@ Orioles

9/23-9/25
vs Rays

9/26-9/28
vs Yankees

matnautico
09-02-2014, 07:50 PM
Kelly getting some K's early, with the stuff he has, he can be much more than just a GB pitcher, touching 98 with command, looking great.

BSF101
09-02-2014, 08:03 PM
Where's this Offense when we need it?

-Lavigne43-
09-02-2014, 08:03 PM
WMB has no pitch recognition skills.

matnautico
09-02-2014, 08:03 PM
Also Xander looking good again after the week off, it was puzzling how uncomfortable he was at the plate.

matnautico
09-02-2014, 08:04 PM
Where's this Offense when we need it?

Wtf dude, cant you enjoy seeing the Red Sox do well? Get over it, this season is over as far as contending.

matnautico
09-02-2014, 08:06 PM
WMB has no pitch recognition skills.

Yeah, he has been even worse now that he's trying to take some pitches, its like he just takes for the sake of it, and has no idea where the ball is.

Bo Sox Fan
09-02-2014, 08:09 PM
Playing spoiler to screw Derek Jeter's final post season run and the Yankees playoff hopes in general is a great consolation prize for a dismal year of our own.

This is great!

-Lavigne43-
09-02-2014, 08:12 PM
Yeah, he has been even worse now that he's trying to take some pitches, its like he just takes for the sake of it, and has no idea where the ball is.

He looks like he can't see anything and is guessing. No way he's back with the team next year, they can't afford to carry and start a guy who has shown nothing, unless it's in AAA. He's very close to minor league contracts or playing in Japan.

matnautico
09-02-2014, 08:20 PM
He looks like he can't see anything and is guessing. No way he's back with the team next year, they can't afford to carry and start a guy who has shown nothing, unless it's in AAA. He's very close to minor league contracts or playing in Japan.

IMO we should be giving a shot to Cecchini already to play everyday, maybe after the AAA playoffs, we'll see, but WMB has had enough chances...
Went to pick up some food and missed Mookie homer :(

-Lavigne43-
09-02-2014, 08:37 PM
Mookie takes some strange looking routes and turns them into athletic catches.

Cecchini needs success at AAA first. Can't give him the opening day job at 3b with his season this year.

I wonder how big a piece Kelly could be in a trade for someone like Stanton.

-Lavigne43-
09-02-2014, 08:38 PM
I hope tonight is Xander breaking out of it.

tonyd3b54
09-02-2014, 08:40 PM
Also Xander looking good again after the week off, it was puzzling how uncomfortable he was at the plate.

One of the better swings I've seen in weeks today. Kept hands inside the baseball and managed to hit an inside fast ball for a HR to the opposite field. And as I type this he has a great swing on a breaking ball for a double.

-Lavigne43-
09-02-2014, 08:50 PM
Young guys just kicking *** today.

matnautico
09-02-2014, 08:53 PM
Mookie takes some strange looking routes and turns them into athletic catches.

Cecchini needs success at AAA first. Can't give him the opening day job at 3b with his season this year.

I wonder how big a piece Kelly could be in a trade for someone like Stanton.

I didnt say we should give him the opening day job, I said he should be getting everyday ABs this month.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
09-02-2014, 09:02 PM
The sad thing about this inning is that Kelly's in this situation because of a bunt base hit and a misread by Cespedes.

Nomar
09-02-2014, 10:39 PM
Looks like Jenny Dell really jumped the gun. WMB better pray he gets traded to a bad team where he can get some burn.

Bo Sox Fan
09-02-2014, 10:54 PM
Good god Uehara. The guy has started to completely fall off the planet.

Station 13
09-02-2014, 11:05 PM
Middlebrooks is finished here.

Soxfan85
09-04-2014, 10:31 PM
Koji needs to go. Have Taz be the closer.

Station 13
09-04-2014, 11:33 PM
Koji needs to go. Have Taz be the closer.

Bring Koji back in a reduce role.

BSF101
09-04-2014, 11:33 PM
LMFAO just when you think they have it won they blow it.

Bo Sox Fan
09-04-2014, 11:58 PM
This game doesn't break my heart at all, neither New York or Toronto are going to the playoffs anyways.

Moving on up in the draft order!

Petertherock
09-05-2014, 09:49 AM
I said last week or so ago that Koji needs to go. He's old, he's been overused, and I think his fall is going to be bad...we've already seen a preview of it!

Petertherock
09-05-2014, 09:50 AM
I still say it's possible the Sox get 94 losses which would give them more losses than 2012!

BoSox47
09-05-2014, 02:03 PM
Koji is the mvp of the team right now. Making sure we get the best possible draft pick we can.

Nomar
09-05-2014, 02:29 PM
Edwin Escobar for closer 2015

win red sox
09-05-2014, 07:26 PM
Cespedes drops a catchable ball and Vazquez whiffs on a strikeout that leads to 2 runs. if any pitcher needs a solid defense it Webster.

matnautico
09-05-2014, 08:33 PM
Cespedes drops a catchable ball and Vazquez whiffs on a strikeout that leads to 2 runs. if any pitcher needs a solid defense it Webster.

Cespedes has looked awful defesively, aside from his monster arm, of couse.

Station 13
09-05-2014, 09:08 PM
I thought he was suppose to play RF. That monster scares him.

RaginRondo17
09-05-2014, 10:38 PM
Marcus Stroman pinch running in extra innings for the Jays. It kind of reminds me of the talk about Buchholz's speed when he was coming up. I know injuries are a concern but if a pitcher is an athlete, running bases and sliding really shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm surprised you don't see more fast/quick pitchers, pinch running.

Bo Sox Fan
09-05-2014, 11:23 PM
Cespedes arm and average range is taylor made for Fenway's left field. I counted 4 hits, 2 off the monster and 2 lined to the left field corner where he held 'should be' doubles for singles. Reyes speed was victim of it twice.

Petertherock
09-06-2014, 09:49 AM
Isn't Papelbon a free agent this year? lol!

todu82
09-06-2014, 10:03 PM
Wonder if we'll hit 70 wins, at this point I want us to get as high a draft pick as possible.

Station 13
09-07-2014, 08:37 PM
Mookie era is now.

-Lavigne43-
09-10-2014, 04:37 PM
Workman really has no business being in the rotation going forward. It's extremely clear that the bullpen is where he is best suited. At the very best he is a #5 guy in the rotation, nothing more than a run of the mill pitcher. In the pen he can be a very good reliever, his stuff plays so much better in 1 inning stints. I feel the only reason he is still starting is because Farrell is infatuated with him. It would be a big mistake to have him begin next season as a starter.

Soxfan85
09-10-2014, 06:06 PM
Workman really has no business being in the rotation going forward. It's extremely clear that the bullpen is where he is best suited. At the very best he is a #5 guy in the rotation, nothing more than a run of the mill pitcher. In the pen he can be a very good reliever, his stuff plays so much better in 1 inning stints. I feel the only reason he is still starting is because Farrell is infatuated with him. It would be a big mistake to have him begin next season as a starter.

Not sure of comparison but is this going to be another Daniel Bard? He was a RP and converted into a SP. Then after that he collapsed. Now BW was a RP and converted into a SP and is collapsing. He was a SP as well in 2013 as well. Will this affect him next year going back to a RP?

AI
09-10-2014, 06:41 PM
Workman's always been a starter in the minors and I agree with Lav. I'm not too happy with the way Farrell manages his roster. I'm surprised Tazawa's arm hasn't fallen off yet.

-Lavigne43-
09-10-2014, 08:53 PM
It's completely different than Bard. Bard was converted to a reliever after one terrible season starting in the minors. After that he soared through the minors. Bard's stuff was obviously top of the line, so he had the potential to be a great starter if he had command.

Workman never pitched in relief until last season, and had success starting in the minors. His stuff just doesn't play as a starter though. It has always been reported in the minors that he wears down as games go on with his velocity dropping after a couple innings. His stuff is just very mediocre as a starting pitcher, to be successful as a starter his command has to be spot on. Part of it is probably fatigue at the end of the season, but he was getting clocked at 89 today. Right now you absolutely can't give him a spot in the rotation next year. Maybe with more seasoning and improvement he can make himself a bottom of the rotation pitcher, but in a year he will be 27.

His stuff plays as a reliever, we've seen it. He can air it out at 95, which increases the contrast between his secondary stuff making those pitches more deadly. It would really be crazy to keep him as a starter.

The only young pitcher that has earned a spot in the major league rotation next year is Rubby. I'm surprised Rubby is still pitching considering the large innings increase this year over last year, I thought they would shut him down by now. Webster should start in AAA, too much potential to give up on him as a starter yet. You give him another year, unless a playoff caliber team next year has a bullpen need. Workman goes to the pen. I've always thought Ranaudo would be better served as trade bait. With none of the pitchers on the roster traded, the rotation next year should be:

1. Offseason acquisition
2. Offseason acquisition
3. Buchholz
4. Kelly
5. RDLR

I don't really like Kelly, but he will be in the rotation unless they trade him.

Nomar
09-10-2014, 09:56 PM
Fairly positive they won't trade Kelly. They probably think he's a three in his peak years, when they'll have him for cheap.

-Lavigne43-
09-10-2014, 11:18 PM
That would also make him attractive to a team like the Marlins. Kelly has high velocity, but his peripherals are lousy. I can't see him being anything but a bottom of the rotation pitcher. He's going to be 27 next year with over 300 big league innings, it's not like he is a rookie. He will be in arbitration soon. RDLR is one cheap arm that will surely be in the rotation next year. Webster, Barnes, and Ranaudo if they can find success could be cheap arms. Coming up we have Owens, Eduardo Rodriguez who has been terrific since coming from the O's, though I know little about him, Brian Johnson who had a terrific year. We should be getting a couple cheap arms in the rotation from the system. If we don't something is wrong with our development.

Station 13
09-12-2014, 10:24 PM
Mookie Betts is for real.

corky831
09-13-2014, 12:40 PM
I love mookie. I think him and xb will both be successful, but you can tell mookie is a gamer, and he has a short, sweet stroke. XB has a longer swing. Both have unbelievable futures in my eyes.

-Lavigne43-
09-14-2014, 06:22 PM
Of course we win 3/4 vs the Royals when I want the Royals to win the central. Xander is on fire since getting back from the concussion DL.

BoSox47
09-14-2014, 07:23 PM
Fairly positive they won't trade Kelly. They probably think he's a three in his peak years, when they'll have him for cheap.

I could be on the other side of this debate. He could be a piece that could be highly recommended by teams, especially teams that are looking for a player who is already somewhat proven. I like Kelly though, I think he has a chance to be a decent 3 and a plus 4 on a deep rotation.

todu82
09-16-2014, 02:53 PM
Yeah, wouldn't trade Kelly. The guy's a very good option in the middle of the rotation.

grandsalami
09-18-2014, 10:34 PM
Suck for Luck! Wait. Wrong sport.

Station 13
09-18-2014, 11:37 PM
Middlebrooks is a vortex of sucks. He sucks at everything. He takes his pals down with him.

-Lavigne43-
09-19-2014, 12:48 PM
WMB never seems to get the proper evaluation for his play from the organization and the media. They're still influenced by his fluke hot streak to start his career. He's hitting worse than JBjr. It would be insane if they handed him the starting job again. The players available at 3b during the offseason always seem to suck. Maybe we end up just playing Holt at 3b. I'd hate that, but it might be the best choice.

AI
09-19-2014, 01:21 PM
I'd rather give Cecchini the shot and see how he performs.

BSF101
09-19-2014, 07:04 PM
Get ready to be swept again.

matnautico
09-19-2014, 08:55 PM
Castillo showing off the arm, nice.

BSF101
09-20-2014, 02:03 AM
Well I was wrong we can't be swept lol.

Station 13
09-20-2014, 09:23 AM
What will this team do without Ortiz in 2 year?

-Lavigne43-
09-20-2014, 10:29 AM
What will this team do without Ortiz in 2 year?

Pray for Stanton. I think that's when he is a free agent.

Station 13
09-20-2014, 11:32 AM
Pray for Stanton. I think that's when he is a free agent.

5M short on Abreu is turning out to be a HUGE mistake. 30HR guys just don't come around often today.

-Lavigne43-
09-20-2014, 12:15 PM
5M short on Abreu is turning out to be a HUGE mistake. 30HR guys just don't come around often today.

He's the best hitter in baseball this year. Every team massively underestimated him, despite it being well known that he was the best player in Cuba for years.

papipapsmanny
09-20-2014, 01:59 PM
I am more worried about the rotation than anything else for next year.

We have Buchholz who you don't ever know what your are going to get and Kelly who I say is a great 4/5 starter to have 4 FIP guy eats innings. Solid and useful..... but then what?

Petertherock
09-22-2014, 09:39 AM
I know it's a pipe dream but I would like to see us sign Lester and Johnny Cueto this off season. I think Cueto is a good young guy that would be a great #2 guy.

Station 13
09-22-2014, 10:49 AM
Cueto isn't a FA with a cheap $10M club option his team have on him.

Nomar
09-22-2014, 12:16 PM
I think Cueto gets dealt at the trade deadline next year. I love him but I don't think we'd be willing to give up significant prospects (Bogaerts, Betts, Owens, Swihart) for one year of him.

todu82
09-22-2014, 01:35 PM
Cueto would be a decent pickup for the team if we got him, help solidify the rotation for sure.

matnautico
09-22-2014, 05:06 PM
I know it's a pipe dream but I would like to see us sign Lester and Johnny Cueto this off season. I think Cueto is a good young guy that would be a great #2 guy.

I think we'll sign one of the guys that will require a long term deal (Lester, Shields or Scherzer) and someone to a 1 year deal, 2 maximum (Brandon McCarthy maybe?) the other 3 spots I think its pretty clear it will be Buch, Rubby and Kelly barring a trade. We'd still have depth with Webster and Ranaudo, and not really block the guys with more upside like Owens and Barnes whenever they are ready.

bagwell368
09-23-2014, 10:09 PM
Cespedes sucks....

Station 13
09-23-2014, 10:55 PM
JBJ continues to sucks. I don't think he cuts it as a starter.

goshhhjosh
09-25-2014, 08:19 AM
This is a bad time to start winning some games...as far as the draft is concerned. Shame on you Red Sox.

-Lavigne43-
09-25-2014, 10:10 AM
JBJ continues to sucks. I don't think he cuts it as a starter.

He would suck at any level with his current approach. I don't know why they didn't just shut him down and have him work on his bad habits, he was just as bad at AAA.

Meaningless sample, but Cechhini has been impressive. I believe his second half numbers were significantly better than his first half. I hope he makes it, he has a lot of Pedroia in him with his hustle and joy for the game.

AI
09-25-2014, 12:12 PM
He would suck at any level with his current approach. I don't know why they didn't just shut him down and have him work on his bad habits, he was just as bad at AAA.

Meaningless sample, but Cechhini has been impressive. I believe his second half numbers were significantly better than his first half. I hope he makes it, he has a lot of Pedroia in him with his hustle and joy for the game.

He's been pretty damn good the second half of the season. Plus, he's looked solid defensively at 3B as well.

I'd take him over Middlebrooks easily.

bagwell368
09-25-2014, 02:32 PM
He's been pretty damn good the second half of the season. Plus, he's looked solid defensively at 3B as well.

I'd take him over Middlebrooks easily.

It would help the Sox a lot if GC can make 3B his.
WMB might well get DFA'd after a year or two @ AAA, in particular if he starts to mouth off
Nice - really nice if Marrero can seize SS, and XB can go to LF
Pedroia retires and Betts goes to 2B
Cespedes gets dealt
oops... over reaching...

Station 13
09-25-2014, 02:59 PM
He would suck at any level with his current approach. I don't know why they didn't just shut him down and have him work on his bad habits, he was just as bad at AAA.


Since his recall on 9/6 he is hitting .029/.029/.029



Why the heck did they bring him back? Once AAA was over, let him clear his head. The major league was the last place he should be at.

Maybe ask him to get some AFL or winter ball instead.

Soxfan85
09-25-2014, 08:31 PM
Rocket HR by Rusney

Petertherock
09-26-2014, 10:02 AM
Rocket HR by Rusney

Almost had a second one too!

Station 13
09-26-2014, 10:57 AM
8 rookies this year hit HR. The previous high was 3 in 1996 for this club. Betts better not go anywhere!

AI
09-26-2014, 12:05 PM
Picked a bad time to start winning games. We could've had the 3rd-4th pick in the draft and will most likely fall between 6-9 now. Haven't looked at the updated standings, but that's probably where we are right now.

Station 13
09-26-2014, 02:36 PM
I think we lose the next two with Ortiz/Napoli/Pedroia done this year and base on pitching matchups. We lose tie breaker to a few clubs base on previous year record.

Nomar
09-26-2014, 10:30 PM
Castillo with a monster HR http://atmlb.com/1vchCbT.

So far so good with this guy.

Station 13
09-26-2014, 10:46 PM
That's a moonshot.

BoSox47
09-26-2014, 10:54 PM
His swing looks as if it is in slow motion to me idk why.

Station 13
09-27-2014, 02:34 PM
Brentz bench OF, platoon for Nava.

Station 13
09-27-2014, 04:27 PM
Kelly is our new Derek Lowe. Very glad we got an arm like that.