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Dade County
08-28-2014, 10:28 AM
Since most of the rosters are filled out, who do you guys have making the playoffs, their seedings and team record?


1. Cav's ... 67-15
2. Bulls ... 61-21
3. HEAT ... 57-25
4. Toronto ... 50-32
5. Wizards ... 51-31 (I think thats how it works, Raps get the division so they are seeded higher)
6. ?
7. ?
8. Knciks, Det, Charlotte, Brooklyn, or Atl fight for the 6 through 8 spot.

goingfor28
08-28-2014, 10:30 AM
Cavs
Bulls
Wizards
Hornets
Raptors
Brooklyn
Miami
Atlanta

cdnsportsfan
08-28-2014, 10:34 AM
Not guessing on the win projections but this is how I see the East playing out for playoff standings:

1. Cavs
2. Bulls
3. Raptors/Wizards
4. Raptors/Wizards
*feel that 3/4 battle will go right down to the wire, not sure who emerges on top
5. Hawks (if Horford stays healthy these guys will be tough!)
6. Hornets
7. HEAT
8. Knicks/Nets/Pistons/Pacers, take your pick!

cdnsportsfan
08-28-2014, 10:36 AM
Cavs
Bulls
Wizards
Hornets
Raptors
Brooklyn
Miami
Atlanta

This thread is about playoff seedings NOT power rankings, therefore this makes no sense as the best team in the Atlantic can finish no worse than 4th overall in playoff seeding

Buckwheat
08-28-2014, 10:48 AM
Cavs
Bulls
Wizards
Raptors
Heat
Hornets
Nets
Hawks

jaydubb
08-28-2014, 10:51 AM
BULLS
CAVS
WIZARDS
RAPTORS
heat
HORNETS
KNICKS
HAWKS

Edit: I got raptors winning their division

goingfor28
08-28-2014, 10:52 AM
This thread is about playoff seedings NOT power rankings, therefore this makes no sense as the best team in the Atlantic can finish no worse than 4th overall in playoff seeding
I see. Oops.

Dade County
08-28-2014, 10:53 AM
BULLS
CAVS
WIZARDS
heat
RAPTORS
HORNETS
KNICKS
HAWKS


:laugh2:... So you took the time to write HEAT in lower caps, but everyone else in uppercase.

Good one.

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 10:53 AM
oh no this is going to turn into another Knicks vs the world thread oncee they get in there saying theyre a top 4 team.

alos the OP is crazy if he belives the Cavs willl 67 games.

jaydubb
08-28-2014, 10:55 AM
:laugh2:... So you took the time to write HEAT in lower caps, but everyone else in uppercase.

Good one.

Whoops.. That just kinda came out that way... :/

FraziersKnicks
08-28-2014, 11:00 AM
Cavs - 60-22
Bulls - 55-27
Wizards - 50-32
Heat - 48-34
Raptors - 47-35
Hornets - 46-36
Knicks - 45-37
Nets - 44-38

1st round:

Cavs 4-1 Nets
Bulls 4-2 Knicks
Wizards 4-3 Hornets
Heat 4-2 Raptors

ECSF:

Cavs 4-2 Heat
Bulls 4-3 Wizards

ECF:

Cavs 4-2 Bulls

Dade County
08-28-2014, 11:01 AM
oh no this is going to turn into another Knicks vs the world thread oncee they get in there saying theyre a top 4 team.

alos the OP is crazy if he belives the Cavs willl 67 games.

So why don't you write up a seeding and their records then?... If not, whats the point.


And yes, the Knicks fans will let their voices be heard, I believe so will Bulls fans.

FraziersKnicks
08-28-2014, 11:11 AM
I actually think the East has some nice depth now. If PG wasn't injured you can add the Pacers to the playoff picture. The Cavs are the elite team in the East and that's come out of nowhere, the Bulls will be better with the additions of Gasol and Rose. The Hornets are a nice team with Kemba/Lance/Al Jeff, the Wizards and Raps haven't made the most significant adjustments but I expect two young teams to make improvements and the Heat are still a very good team with a nice core of Wade/Deng/Bosh.

The conference is looking much better than last year and there's a real nice balance.

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 11:12 AM
So why don't you write up a seeding and their records then?... If not, whats the point.


And yes, the Knicks fans will let their voices be heard, I believe so will Bulls fans.

my point is you are wrong.

Dade County
08-28-2014, 11:13 AM
my point is you are wrong.

Then you have no point at all :)

HYFR
08-28-2014, 11:19 AM
Probably homerish putting the heat at 57 wins and also I don't see the cavs winning that much this season

Manimal
08-28-2014, 11:19 AM
1. Bulls
2. Cavs
3. Wizards
4. Raptors
5. Charlotte
6. Atlanta
7. Knicks
8. BUCKS

MILLERHIGHLIFE
08-28-2014, 11:23 AM
Them standings are a bit high for east standards. Only one team had over 60 wins last year and it was the Spurs. Only two teams got over 50 wins in the east.

jaydubb
08-28-2014, 11:31 AM
Bulls 51-31
Cavs 50-32
Wizards 49-33
Raptors 48-34
Heat 46-36
Hornets 45-37
Knicks 42-40
Hawks 40-42

Edit: added my projected records of each team

Cal827
08-28-2014, 11:49 AM
One thing I forgot about, can't you only have one team in the division in the top 3 spots? Forgot about that.. I gotta redo mine then..

Bulls 51-31
Wizards 49-33
Raptors 48-34
Cavs 50-32
Heat 46-36
Hornets 45-37
Knicks 42-40
Hawks 40-42

Edit: added my projected records of each team

I think the division winners automatically grab the top 4 spots. (I think the issue came up b/c the Spurs and Mavericks were the two best teams in the League a few years back, but had to face off in the second round cause of the 1-4 matchup).

So you could flip the Cavs over the Wizards and Raptors on your predictions lol

jaydubb
08-28-2014, 11:53 AM
I think the division winners automatically grab the top 4 spots. (I think the issue came up b/c the Spurs and Mavericks were the two best teams in the League a few years back, but had to face off in the second round cause of the 1-4 matchup).

So you could flip the Cavs over the Wizards and Raptors on your predictions lol

Fixed thanks I guess I didn't fully understand that.. :cheers:

Cal827
08-28-2014, 11:53 AM
East:

Chicago: 56-26
Cleveland: 55-27
Miami: 51-31
Washington: 48-34
Toronto: 48-34 (difference between 4/5 would of course come up based on tiebreakers)
Charlotte: 46-36
Brooklyn: 46-36
New York: 41-41

ManRam
08-28-2014, 11:54 AM
Since most of the rosters are filled out, who do you guys have making the playoffs, their seedings and team record?


1. Cav's ... 67-15
2. Bulls ... 61-21
3. HEAT ... 57-25
4. Toronto ... 50-32
5. Wizards ... 51-31 (I think thats how it works, Raps get the division so they are seeded higher)
7. ?
8. Knciks, Det, Charlotte, Brooklyn, or Atl fight for the 7 & 8 spots

I think the Cavs win the East but 67 wins is just a tad bit outrageous of a prediction for year 1 of this.

This is just records...not worrying about divisions or anything...

1. Cavs
2. Bulls
(gap)
3. Wizards
4. Heat
5. Raptors
6. Hawks
7. Bobcats
(gap)
8. Nets

Pacers, Knicks, Pistons, Bucks, Magic, Celtics, 76ers round it out in order

Dade County
08-28-2014, 12:06 PM
Probably homerish putting the heat at 57 wins and also I don't see the cavs winning that much this season

I am expecting the league to take the 4yr leash off of the HEAT since Lbj left, so they should be able to play to their full capabilities for the entire year (I hope).

About the Cav's record, it's just my opinion. I am thinking the league is going to have their poster boy Lbj shine for the world to see (the leash would & should be off of him too).


Them standings are a bit high for east standards. Only one team had over 60 wins last year and it was the Spurs. Only two teams got over 50 wins in the east.

Yeah, i guess you are write.

But I do believe that the bulls & Cav's records are going to be up there.

todu82
08-28-2014, 12:10 PM
Bulls
Cavs
Wizards
Raptors
Heat
Nets
Hornets
Knicks

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 12:29 PM
Probably homerish putting the heat at 57 wins and also I don't see the cavs winning that much this season

lol whats thats worse than picking the cavs to win that much.

Sadds The Gr8
08-28-2014, 12:41 PM
Cavs
Bulls
Raps
Wiz
Hornets
Heat
Hawks
Nets

Sadds The Gr8
08-28-2014, 12:46 PM
East:

Chicago: 56-26
Cleveland: 55-27
Miami: 51-31
Washington: 48-34
Toronto: 48-34 (difference between 4/5 would of course come up based on tiebreakers)
Charlotte: 46-36
Brooklyn: 46-36
New York: 41-41
Didn't miami only win 54 with lebron? No chance they win 50 imo. They're in the 42-45 range.

SportsFanatic10
08-28-2014, 12:47 PM
cavs
bulls
wiz
heat
raps
hawks
hornets
nets

nycericanguy
08-28-2014, 12:53 PM
After CHI & CLE the East is wide open... you could move TOR, BK, WSH, ATL, NY, CHA, MIA around any way you want. It's just a matter of which teams get the breaks.

Even CHI is kinda iffy, they are built around three injury prone players in Rose, Noah and Gasol. Noah is going to be 30 and played a TON of HARD minutes and games last year... you wonder if that will affect him this year as he's always had nagging injuries.

Blitzace137
08-28-2014, 01:13 PM
Am I missing something? The Bulls and Cavs are in the same division so they cannot finish 1 and 2 in the standings. This is how I had it playing out that I posted on the Knick forum

1) Cavs
2) Bulls
3) Wizards
4) Toronto
5) Heats
6) Hornets
7) Knicks/BK/Hornets/Atlanta
8) Brooklyn/Knicks/Hornets/Atlanta

Edit- Since it is possible for Cavs/Bulls to finish one and two I have them on top.

Blitzace137
08-28-2014, 01:15 PM
Didn't miami only win 54 with lebron? No chance they win 50 imo. They're in the 42-45 range.

If everyone stays relatively healthy for the Heats no way a team that has Wade,Bosh,and Deng finish 42-42, which is a .500 team.

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 01:21 PM
sure they are. Wade is on a fast decline, deng could be on the verge of one too and both arent exactly traditionally healthy players. Bosh still is going to play like a ***** in the post and get killed by C's and Mcbob is a poormans Bosh.

Blitzace137
08-28-2014, 01:26 PM
sure they are. Wade is on a fast decline, deng could be on the verge of one too and both arent exactly traditionally healthy players. Bosh still is going to play like a ***** in the post and get killed by C's and Mcbob is a poormans Bosh.

Maybe but I think Wade's gonna play with a chip on his shoulder to prove people wrong, even on a down year he averaged 19 points and shot over 50%. Bosh plays like a **** but that doesn't mean he's not an all-star player. Deng I'm not sure about but how bad can he be, he averaged 19 before he left the Bulls and averaged 14 with the Cavs.

Cal827
08-28-2014, 01:37 PM
Am I missing something? The Bulls and Cavs are in the same division so they cannot finish 1 and 2 in the standings. This is how I had it playing out that I posted on the Knick forum

1) Cavs/Bulls
2) Miami/Wiz
3) Toronto
4) Bulls/Cavs
5) Pacers
6) Washington/Miami
7) Knicks/BK/Hornets/Atlanta
8) Brooklyn/Knicks/Hornets/Atlanta

Lol, yeah they can. Remember, the NBA modified the rules a few years ago when the two best teams in the league had to face off due to the 1/4 seeding, despite both being better than the other division winners. A division winner is guaranteed a top 4 seed in the East, but if there's a better team, then they'll leapfrog. An example is when Cleveland got to the finals in 2007, they were the 2 seed, and knocked out the 1 seed (and division rival) Pistons.

I think Chicago and Indiana were 1 and the 3 seeds back in 2012. Also, I remember last year hoping for certain teams to win, so Chicago wouldn't jump and take the 3 seed from Toronto lol

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 01:38 PM
Wade was able to do that last year by frequently missing games to rest and playing next to James. To win even 45 games the Heat do not have that luxury. Bosh going for 18/7 isnt going to be enough especually when every Center is dropping 25/12 on him

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 01:39 PM
oh and Miami and Chicago are NOT in the same division. Seriously, jsut think about where they are located.

Pierzynski4Prez
08-28-2014, 01:42 PM
Since most of the rosters are filled out, who do you guys have making the playoffs, their seedings and team record?


1. Cav's ... 67-15
2. Bulls ... 61-21
3. HEAT ... 57-25
4. Toronto ... 50-32
5. Wizards ... 51-31 (I think thats how it works, Raps get the division so they are seeded higher)
7. ?
8. Knciks, Det, Charlotte, Brooklyn, or Atl fight for the 7 & 8 spots

No 6 seed?

Cal827
08-28-2014, 01:46 PM
Didn't miami only win 54 with lebron? No chance they win 50 imo. They're in the 42-45 range.

To be fair, they coasted through the last couple months, where they thought the conference title was out of reach.... until of course Indiana decided to **** it up and somehow let them catch up to them :laugh2:

I'm just thinking that the dinosaur is gonna go back to averaging 20-10 like he did here (with improved defense of course, as nobody could stop **** in the Triano days lol), and I think that Wade might really push himself this season (of course, this is assuming he stays healthy).

I'm also a fan of Deng's game (obviously nothing replaces Lebron, but Deng can do a little of everything). I really wish that Ujiri tried something to give us cap space to go grab him cause I think he would be the missing piece that we needed to jump up into the main contenders in the East.

benzni
08-28-2014, 01:57 PM
Cavs
Bulls
Wiz
Raps
Heat
Hornets
Hawks
Nets

ECF: Cavs over Wiz 4-1

Blitzace137
08-28-2014, 02:02 PM
Lol, yeah they can. Remember, the NBA modified the rules a few years ago when the two best teams in the league had to face off due to the 1/4 seeding, despite both being better than the other division winners. A division winner is guaranteed a top 4 seed in the East, but if there's a better team, then they'll leapfrog. An example is when Cleveland got to the finals in 2007, they were the 2 seed, and knocked out the 1 seed (and division rival) Pistons.

I think Chicago and Indiana were 1 and the 3 seeds back in 2012. Also, I remember last year hoping for certain teams to win, so Chicago wouldn't jump and take the 3 seed from Toronto lol

lol, I see, guess I was still going by the older rule, thanks for the clear up.

Sadds The Gr8
08-28-2014, 02:05 PM
If everyone stays relatively healthy for the Heats no way a team that has Wade,Bosh,and Deng finish 42-42, which is a .500 team.
That's a huge if with wade involved. I don't think he plays more than 60 games.

To be fair, they coasted through the last couple months, where they thought the conference title was out of reach.... until of course Indiana decided to **** it up and somehow let them catch up to them :laugh2:

I'm just thinking that the dinosaur is gonna go back to averaging 20-10 like he did here (with improved defense of course, as nobody could stop **** in the Triano days lol), and I think that Wade might really push himself this season (of course, this is assuming he stays healthy).

I'm also a fan of Deng's game (obviously nothing replaces Lebron, but Deng can do a little of everything). I really wish that Ujiri tried something to give us cap space to go grab him cause I think he would be the missing piece that we needed to jump up into the main contenders in the East.
Deng is overrated imo and I just don't see wade staying healthy enough to help them win 50. I'd be shocked if wade played more than 60 games. He'll be good in the games he plays, but I doubt he plays in enough games.

smith&wesson
08-28-2014, 02:19 PM
1.Cavs 58-24
2.Bulls 53-29
3.Raps 50-32
4.Hornets 49-33
5.Wizards - 48-34
6.Heat - 47-35
7.Hawks 44-38
8.Pistons 42-40

goingfor28
08-28-2014, 02:52 PM
:laugh2:... So you took the time to write HEAT in lower caps, but everyone else in uppercase.

Good one.
Better than the all caps some of you insist on

Dade County
08-28-2014, 04:05 PM
Wade was able to do that last year by frequently missing games to rest and playing next to James. To win even 45 games the Heat do not have that luxury. Bosh going for 18/7 isnt going to be enough especually when every Center is dropping 25/12 on him



It seems you have a lot of hostility towards Miami, or you might actually believe that they will suck; and there is nothing wrong with that.

But try not to sound so bitter.



No 6 seed?

Thank you.

Big Zo
08-28-2014, 04:35 PM
There's this sudden love affair with the Wizards that I just can't understand. : /

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 04:37 PM
[QUOTE=Dade County;28975516]It seems you have a lot of hostility towards Miami, or you might actually believe that they will suck; and there is nothing wrong with that.

But try not to sound so bitter.

uhhh what are you talking about? heat fans are becoming worse than the knicks fans.



i noticed how you didnt disagree with me though....

Jamiecballer
08-28-2014, 04:38 PM
There's this sudden love affair with the Wizards that I just can't understand. : /

the law of recency. people remember only what you did last apparently :shrugs:

xxplayerxx23
08-28-2014, 04:42 PM
Knicks will 65 games :)

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 04:48 PM
the law of recency. people remember only what you did last apparently :shrugs:

or most of us expect Wall and Beal to make that leap and be a top 1-2 duo in the East like they showed they are capable of. Might need to make a bench move at the deadline but they have a really solid starting 5 m,uch better then Miami

nycericanguy
08-28-2014, 04:49 PM
the law of recency. people remember only what you did last apparently :shrugs:

same reason people think the Knicks are all of a sudden a horrible team.

Jamiecballer
08-28-2014, 04:50 PM
or most of us expect Wall and Beal to make that leap and be a top 1-2 duo in the East like they showed they are capable of. Might need to make a bench move at the deadline but they have a really solid starting 5 m,uch better then Miami

perhaps. i'm not sold on either yet. Wall still plays out of control too often for my liking and Beal is still essentially a volume scorer and that's it - at this point. i see them about .500 again this year.

behind Cleveland, Chicago, Toronto, Miami, and probably the Hornets.

Jamiecballer
08-28-2014, 04:54 PM
same reason people think the Knicks are all of a sudden a horrible team.

i guess. new season right. they bear no resemblance personnel wise to either last years team or the one that one 54 games.

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 04:56 PM
perhaps. i'm not sold on either yet. Wall still plays out of control too often for my liking and Beal is still essentially a volume scorer and that's it - at this point. i see them about .500 again this year.

behind Cleveland, Chicago, Toronto, Miami, and probably the Hornets.

i dont know about .500 and im certianly not sold yet either but i do belive they can make that jump and having good vets like gortat, nene, and PP who can all play too is a huge help.

nycericanguy
08-28-2014, 04:57 PM
i guess. new season right. they bear no resemblance personnel wise to either last years team or the one that one 54 games.

They do, it's still a Melo led team with JR as the #2 guy. Knicks have had a winning record with Melo except last.

The median between the 37 & 54 win teams is still a 46 win team, which should be enough to contend for the atlantic.

They are very similar to last year's DAL team.

mightybosstone
08-28-2014, 05:04 PM
It's still really, really damn early to be doing this, so I reserve the right to change my picks before the actual season starts. But my Eastern Conference standings would look something like this:

1. Cleveland - 60-22
2. Chicago - 56-26
3. Toronto - 50-32
4. Washington - 48-34
5. Atlanta - 48-34
6. Miami - 46-36
7. Charlotte - 44-38
8. Brooklyn - 42-40
--------------------------
9. New York - 40-42
10. Indiana - 35-57
11. Detroit - 32-50
12. Boston - 26-56
13. Milwaukee - 24-58
14. Orlando - 20-62
15. Philadelphia -18-64

Jamiecballer
08-28-2014, 05:06 PM
They do, it's still a Melo led team with JR as the #2 guy. Knicks have had a winning record with Melo except last.

The median between the 37 & 54 win teams is still a 46 win team, which should be enough to contend for the atlantic.

They are very similar to last year's DAL team.
When the makeup of a team is drastically altered that "team" ceases to exist. And a teams makeup is its players. They've got 5 players left from the 54 win team.

Predicting their success or failure based on anything but the current roster of players is pure folly.

nycericanguy
08-28-2014, 05:10 PM
When the makeup of a team is drastically altered that "team" ceases to exist. And a teams makeup is its players. They've got 5 players left from the 54 win team.

Predicting their success or failure based on anything but the current roster of players is pure folly.

4 of which are pretty key players.

But youre right, i'm going off the guys currently on the roster... I don't see why people think the roster is so damn awful.

Calderon & Dalembert each started 80+ games on a 50 win DAL team last year. Most ppl don't even have the Knicks making the playoffs this year... was DAL's supporting roster really THAT much better than NY's?

Fan12345
08-28-2014, 05:16 PM
This was easy
Bulls
Cavs
Washington
Heat
Raps
Hawks
Knicks
Pistons

Jamiecballer
08-28-2014, 05:17 PM
I'm not sure that it particularly matters whether you call them key or not. Its not a particularly well rounded foursome so it still will come down to the performance of the support players much like it did then.

I don't think they will be horrible but its easy to see them giving up record number of points.

TheTreys
08-28-2014, 05:24 PM
1st Seed - Chicago Bulls
2cd Seed - Cleveland Cavaliers
3rd Seed - Washington Wizards
4th Seed - New York Knicks
5th Seed - Toronto Raptors
6th Seed - Charlotte Hornets
7th Seed - Miami Heat
8th Seed - Brooklyn Nets

I honestly have no idea who will win the Eastern Conference. Depends on who is healthy

Blitzace137
08-28-2014, 05:30 PM
4 of which are pretty key players.

But youre right, i'm going off the guys currently on the roster... I don't see why people think the roster is so damn awful.

Calderon & Dalembert each started 80+ games on a 50 win DAL team last year. Most ppl don't even have the Knicks making the playoffs this year... was DAL's supporting roster really THAT much better than NY's?

Shumpert and Stat weren't really key players when we won 54 games. Shumpert was injured up until February and Stat actually hurt us more than he helped that season, when he was on the court. I don't expect us to be any better than a 7th seed at best 6th but our real goal is 2015 FA anyway.

ManRam
08-28-2014, 06:39 PM
It's still really, really damn early to be doing this, so I reserve the right to change my picks before the actual season starts. But my Eastern Conference standings would look something like this:

1. Cleveland - 60-22
2. Chicago - 56-26
3. Toronto - 50-32
4. Washington - 48-34
5. Atlanta - 48-34
6. Miami - 46-36
7. Charlotte - 44-38
8. Brooklyn - 42-40
--------------------------
9. New York - 40-42
10. Indiana - 35-57
11. Detroit - 32-50
12. Boston - 26-56
13. Milwaukee - 24-58
14. Orlando - 20-62
15. Philadelphia -18-64

I'm fine with the Magic still missing out on the playoffs...but if we win only 20 games I'll flip ****. They have to improve...and I think they will.

mightybosstone
08-28-2014, 06:47 PM
I'm fine with the Magic still missing out on the playoffs...but if we win only 20 games I'll flip ****. They have to improve...and I think they will.

Taking a second glance at the roster, I suppose they're more like a 25-35 win team. But their roster is just very.... odd. It's weird to see all of those young guys with veterans like Frye, Gordon and Ridnour. But I do like Payton, Oladipo, Gordon and Vucevic. There's just too many question marks for me to see them as a playoff team, but if their young guys develop early in their careers, I see them as a potential postseason team in 2-3 seasons.

DoMeFavors
08-28-2014, 06:48 PM
Once again popular opinions rule the prediction threads like usual that are almost always wrong. It is like sheep every year everyone having same opinion instead of looking at the realism.

First of all Toronto Raptors aka Milwakuee Bucks of 2010, the team that is overhyped to the max. This team last year if I recall correctly had a losing record vs teams over .500. I also recall most of their players and their coach being in contract years, thats never good once you get paid you tend to slip off and not be as productive (Lowry). Raptors WILL NOT, and please please quote me win the division in the upcoming 2014-2015 NBA season.

Then we have the Heat a team that is still full of vets and winners, this team usually had a chip on its shoulder when Wade or LeBron were out some games. And would win those games. People are underating the Heat. Their core of Bosh and Wade have experience playing in big games together and that will help them.

Wizards could surprise but I have them as a low playoff seed.

I expect Celtics to make the playoffs this season.

My eastern conference playoff seeding

Bulls
Nets
Cavaliers
Heat
Hornets
Wizards
Raptors
Celtics

that is my predictions

FraziersKnicks
08-28-2014, 07:11 PM
Once again popular opinions rule the prediction threads like usual that are almost always wrong. It is like sheep every year everyone having same opinion instead of looking at the realism.

First of all Toronto Raptors aka Milwakuee Bucks of 2010, the team that is overhyped to the max. This team last year if I recall correctly had a losing record vs teams over .500. I also recall most of their players and their coach being in contract years, thats never good once you get paid you tend to slip off and not be as productive (Lowry). Raptors WILL NOT, and please please quote me win the division in the upcoming 2014-2015 NBA season.

Then we have the Heat a team that is still full of vets and winners, this team usually had a chip on its shoulder when Wade or LeBron were out some games. And would win those games. People are underating the Heat. Their core of Bosh and Wade have experience playing in big games together and that will help them.

Wizards could surprise but I have them as a low playoff seed.

I expect Celtics to make the playoffs this season.

My eastern conference playoff seeding

Bulls
Nets
Cavaliers
Heat
Hornets
Wizards
Raptors
Celtics

that is my predictions

God I've missed you

FriedTofuz
08-28-2014, 07:19 PM
This thread in summary has

Chicago and Cleveland as TOP 1 and 2
Knicks and Washington being overrated
Miami and Charolete being UNDERRATED

My seeding:

Cleveland
Chicago
Bobcats
Toronto
Miami
Washington
Atlanta
(NYK/BKN/DET(SVG can turn it around if they trade Josh smith)

bucketss
08-28-2014, 07:20 PM
OP you think heat get even better without bron?

FriedTofuz
08-28-2014, 07:21 PM
Honestly, how the hell do the knicks think they can just turn everything around in one season.
Honestly, you're far from a 4th seed team, with that defense, you'd be lucky to make the playoffs.

FriedTofuz
08-28-2014, 07:22 PM
Washington wins one playoffs series in matchup of their favour where they were lucky that everyone was healthy, and now they're suddenly a deadly team? I hope you realize their team is just Beal and Wall. I doint know what porter can do yet, Nene and Gortat are vets but that isnt enough for a top 4 team in the east this year. Sorry.

FriedTofuz
08-28-2014, 07:24 PM
I think a lot of sports fans are just homers and are irrational, but I'm just stating the obvious

nycericanguy
08-28-2014, 07:40 PM
I think a lot of sports fans are just homers and are irrational, but I'm just stating the obvious

Yep, and a few are obsessive...

FriedTofuz
08-28-2014, 07:46 PM
Ill tell you as someone who's watched a lot of raptor games, you wont have success with bargnani, He's a 6th man at most to spread the defense. His 1v1 D is alright, his help-side and interior D is vomit.

As for amare, Amare is almost as bad of a rebounder/ defender as bargnani, he'll give you 8 rebounds a game.
If Amare is anything like he used to be, him and Calderon on the pick and roll would be deadly, not sure how good it would compare to Nash and Amare pick and roll.

but if knick fans think amare will be consistently healthy, im afraid you're mistaken...

2-ONE-5
08-28-2014, 08:01 PM
Once again popular opinions rule the prediction threads like usual that are almost always wrong. It is like sheep every year everyone having same opinion instead of looking at the realism.

First of all Toronto Raptors aka Milwakuee Bucks of 2010, the team that is overhyped to the max. This team last year if I recall correctly had a losing record vs teams over .500. I also recall most of their players and their coach being in contract years, thats never good once you get paid you tend to slip off and not be as productive (Lowry). Raptors WILL NOT, and please please quote me win the division in the upcoming 2014-2015 NBA season.

Then we have the Heat a team that is still full of vets and winners, this team usually had a chip on its shoulder when Wade or LeBron were out some games. And would win those games. People are underating the Heat. Their core of Bosh and Wade have experience playing in big games together and that will help them.

Wizards could surprise but I have them as a low playoff seed.

I expect Celtics to make the playoffs this season.

My eastern conference playoff seeding

Bulls
Nets
Cavaliers
Heat
Hornets
Wizards
Raptors
Celtics

that is my predictions

holy sahit you win. Nets finish 2nd and C's make the playoffs. i didnt think it was going to be possible to top some of the posts in here but you did it. good job.

ManRam
08-28-2014, 08:05 PM
Taking a second glance at the roster, I suppose they're more like a 25-35 win team. But their roster is just very.... odd. It's weird to see all of those young guys with veterans like Frye, Gordon and Ridnour. But I do like Payton, Oladipo, Gordon and Vucevic. There's just too many question marks for me to see them as a playoff team, but if their young guys develop early in their careers, I see them as a potential postseason team in 2-3 seasons.

Yeah. I don't think they're any better than 25-30 wins really...but 20 would be a disaster. Losing Afflalo hurts, but only just a little bit. If there isn't an improvement in team record this year, well...I think that's a really bad thing. They have to be better.

Bruno
08-28-2014, 08:10 PM
Bulls
Cavs
Wizards
Bobcats
Heat
Hawks
Raptors
Nets

0nekhmer
08-28-2014, 08:18 PM
I laugh every time you HEAT fans write your teams names in caps. Every team is technically all caps.

koreancabbage
08-28-2014, 08:41 PM
Once again popular opinions rule the prediction threads like usual that are almost always wrong. It is like sheep every year everyone having same opinion instead of looking at the realism.

First of all Toronto Raptors aka Milwakuee Bucks of 2010, the team that is overhyped to the max. This team last year if I recall correctly had a losing record vs teams over .500. I also recall most of their players and their coach being in contract years, thats never good once you get paid you tend to slip off and not be as productive (Lowry). Raptors WILL NOT, and please please quote me win the division in the upcoming 2014-2015 NBA season.

Then we have the Heat a team that is still full of vets and winners, this team usually had a chip on its shoulder when Wade or LeBron were out some games. And would win those games. People are underating the Heat. Their core of Bosh and Wade have experience playing in big games together and that will help them.

Wizards could surprise but I have them as a low playoff seed.

I expect Celtics to make the playoffs this season.

My eastern conference playoff seeding

Bulls
Nets
Cavaliers
Heat
Hornets
Wizards
Raptors
Celtics

that is my predictions


1) Raptors are NEVER overhyped. please *****. the rest of the Atlantic sucks in everyone's mind
2) Raptors had one of the hardest schedules to begin the season i.e. pre-Gay trade. and yes they played bad.
3) Rudy Gay and the rest of the Raptors sucked when it came to chemistry
4) Raptors didn't know if they were going breakup the core and be like Philly after they traded Gay away
5) Raptors, after the Gay trade, they had a winning record against above .500 teams, Minny being one of the only fringe .500 teams they beat- so i count that towards them being over .500ish (they lost their last three games of the season, finishing 40-42)

again, the Raptors finish the season ahead of the Nets. Brooklyn looked bad before Lopez went down, like 9-17 or something like that and were much better without him, albeit him being the best Nets player. lol. some serious issues with that every year (with Lopez as your best player but the Nets suck with him on the court)

1) Bulls
2) Cavs
3) Wizards
4) Raps
5) Miami
6) Atlanta
7) Charlotte
8+9) Brooklyn or New York

koreancabbage
08-28-2014, 08:44 PM
Bulls
Cavs
Wizards
Bobcats
Heat
Hawks
Raptors
Nets

Raptors will be in the 4th spot if your standings hold true if you have the Raps ahead of the Nets FYI.

DoMeFavors
08-28-2014, 08:47 PM
1) Raptors are NEVER overhyped. please *****. the rest of the Atlantic sucks in everyone's mind
2) Raptors had one of the hardest schedules to begin the season i.e. pre-Gay trade. and yes they played bad.
3) Rudy Gay and the rest of the Raptors sucked when it came to chemistry
4) Raptors didn't know if they were going breakup the core and be like Philly after they traded Gay away
5) Raptors, after the Gay trade, they had a winning record against above .500 teams, Minny being one of the only fringe .500 teams they beat- so i count that towards them being over .500ish (they lost their last three games of the season, finishing 40-42)

again, the Raptors finish the season ahead of the Nets. Brooklyn looked bad before Lopez went down, like 9-17 or something like that and were much better without him, albeit him being the best Nets player. lol. some serious issues with that every year (with Lopez as your best player but the Nets suck with him on the court)

1) Bulls
2) Cavs
3) Wizards
4) Raps
5) Miami
6) Atlanta
7) Charlotte
8+9) Brooklyn or New York

Nets did look bad last yr with Brook but that was also Kidd's first coaching experience of his life, it was an adjustment. Everyone was pretty much off to a pretty slow start also fg% wise like KG and Paul.
Raptors also a concern I see for them is they still havent added good wings that can stop people like Joe Johnson (who destroyed raptors in playoffs), Melo, LeBron, Wade and so forth. Cant see how you say Nets suck with Brook on the court when the year prior they actually won more game than they did this season. Also a coach like Lionel Hollins that is respected in this league I trust will do what is right.

Dade County
08-28-2014, 09:13 PM
I think the Cavs win the East but 67 wins is just a tad bit outrageous of a prediction for year 1 of this.

This is just records...not worrying about divisions or anything...

1. Cavs
2. Bulls
(gap)
3. Wizards
4. Heat
5. Raptors
6. Hawks
7. Bobcats
(gap)
8. Nets

Pacers, Knicks, Pistons, Bucks, Magic, Celtics, 76ers round it out in order


OP you think heat get even better without bron?

Read bolded below...


I am expecting the league to take the 4yr leash off of the HEAT since Lbj left, so they should be able to play to their full capabilities for the entire year (I hope).

About the Cav's record, it's just my opinion. I am thinking the league is going to have their poster boy Lbj shine for the world to see (the leash would & should be off of him too).



Yeah, i guess you are write.

But I do believe that the bulls & Cav's records are going to be up there.

:)

JEDean89
08-28-2014, 09:21 PM
Bulls 60-22
Cavs 58-24
Wizards 52-30
Raptors 50-32
Heat 48-34
Hornets 46-36
Hawks 45-37
Nets 42-40
Knicks 42-40

Detroit could suprise people if SVG gets them playing well. They are not too far from having a playoff team.

koreancabbage
08-29-2014, 10:16 AM
Nets did look bad last yr with Brook but that was also Kidd's first coaching experience of his life, it was an adjustment. Everyone was pretty much off to a pretty slow start also fg% wise like KG and Paul.
Raptors also a concern I see for them is they still havent added good wings that can stop people like Joe Johnson (who destroyed raptors in playoffs), Melo, LeBron, Wade and so forth. Cant see how you say Nets suck with Brook on the court when the year prior they actually won more game than they did this season. Also a coach like Lionel Hollins that is respected in this league I trust will do what is right.

his name is James Johnson. he won't be able to back down on Johnson as easy as Derozan.

mjt20mik
08-29-2014, 01:49 PM
his name is James Johnson. he won't be able to back down on Johnson as easy as Derozan.

Dude could barely score on Laundry Fields when he was on the court. Sad he got injured.

Sanjay
08-29-2014, 11:24 PM
Heat 3rd!? LeBron was their whole team...I got:

1. Cavaliers
2. Bulls (could be 1-4 depending on Rose)
3. Wizards
4. Raptors
5. Nets
6. Hawks
7. Hornets
8. Heat

Blah Blah Blah
08-29-2014, 11:29 PM
Bulls
Cavaliers
Heat
Raptors
Hornets
Wizards
Hawks
Nets

(3-8 could be a free for all) and Raptors/Heat i really don't know since i can see both getting the 3 seed and the other one getting the 4.

HandsOnTheWheel
08-30-2014, 12:10 AM
Not suprising how badly the Heat are being undderrated in this thread. Wishful thinking is truly setting in.

People forget that in 2009-10, WADE singlehandedly took the team to 48 wins. He had NO-ONE. Add prime Chris Bosh, Deng and a solid core to that mix and all of a sudden you begin to look foolish saying the Heat aren't going to win at least 50 games.

Shammyguy3
08-30-2014, 12:52 AM
Not suprising how badly the Heat are being undderrated in this thread. Wishful thinking is truly setting in.

People forget that in 2009-10, WADE singlehandedly took the team to 48 wins. He had NO-ONE. Add prime Chris Bosh, Deng and a solid core to that mix and all of a sudden you begin to look foolish saying the Heat aren't going to win at least 50 games.

Don't forget that Wade was a Wade which was 5 years younger than this current one who has had continued injury woes. Bosh is not in his prime either. Deng is also past his prime, by a couple years.

The Heat barely won 50 games this past season in the weakest East for about a decade, and with Lebron James. How in the world does this team compare to that team last year, all while being in a tougher conference top to bottom equate to "at least 50 [wins]" exactly?

dalton749
08-30-2014, 02:06 AM
Cavs
Raps
Bulls
Hawks
Wizards
Heat
Bucks
Hornets
Pacers
Nets
Pistons
Celtics
Knicks
Magic
Sixers

HandsOnTheWheel
08-30-2014, 02:09 AM
Don't forget that Wade was a Wade which was 5 years younger than this current one who has had continued injury woes. Bosh is not in his prime either. Deng is also past his prime, by a couple years.

The Heat barely won 50 games this past season in the weakest East for about a decade, and with Lebron James. How in the world does this team compare to that team last year, all while being in a tougher conference top to bottom equate to "at least 50 [wins]" exactly?

Lemme ask you this. Lets say Wade by some stretch of imagination manages to stay healthy. Does your perception change at all?

Sure Wade has aged and his skills may have slightly diminished, but just the fact that he will be the main playmaker and receive a great deal of shots and touches gives me the notion that he may resume his stellar play if, and a big if at that, he can stay healthy.

Bosh is in the tail end of his prime and we have yet to see what he can do without Lebron running the show. Improved depth, filling big holes, and retaining key role players all factor into at least consideration to a 50 win team despite losing Lebron.

bleedprple&gold
08-30-2014, 04:08 AM
Not suprising how badly the Heat are being undderrated in this thread. Wishful thinking is truly setting in.

People forget that in 2009-10, WADE singlehandedly took the team to 48 wins. He had NO-ONE. Add prime Chris Bosh, Deng and a solid core to that mix and all of a sudden you begin to look foolish saying the Heat aren't going to win at least 50 games.

Youre seriously comparing Wade now to what he was 5 years ago? He's not close to the same player so no point in comparing.

Shammyguy3
08-30-2014, 11:17 AM
Lemme ask you this. Lets say Wade by some stretch of imagination manages to stay healthy. Does your perception change at all?

Sure Wade has aged and his skills may have slightly diminished, but just the fact that he will be the main playmaker and receive a great deal of shots and touches gives me the notion that he may resume his stellar play if, and a big if at that, he can stay healthy.

Bosh is in the tail end of his prime and we have yet to see what he can do without Lebron running the show. Improved depth, filling big holes, and retaining key role players all factor into at least consideration to a 50 win team despite losing Lebron.

Define healthy - are we talking 70 games, 75 games, 80 games? That is a huge variable that needs to be hypothetically set in stone before giving a proper answer.

And I completely disagree. You lost the best player of this generation. He was the focal point of your offense and defense for 4 years. Taking him off your team and replacing him with Luol Deng is a MAJOR downgrade. What big holes have you filled? What depth has been improved? What key role players that are worth anything make you believe in a tougher conference (-) your best player equates to a season with similar regular season success as last year?

ChI_ShIzzLe
08-30-2014, 01:16 PM
Heat fans...no disrespect, but you guys are setting yourselves up for major disappointment.

Dade County
08-30-2014, 02:07 PM
Define healthy - are we talking 70 games, 75 games, 80 games? That is a huge variable that needs to be hypothetically set in stone before giving a proper answer.

And I completely disagree. You lost the best player of this generation. He was the focal point of your offense and defense for 4 years. Taking him off your team and replacing him with Luol Deng is a MAJOR downgrade. What big holes have you filled? What depth has been improved? What key role players that are worth anything make you believe in a tougher conference (-) your best player equates to a season with similar regular season success as last year?

But you are not factoring in that the HEAT were controlled by the league; so things didn't get out of hand.

Before you say that can never happen, and all that other stuff... Just take the time to re watch some games. Actually try to compare how the HEAt plays, when they win/dominate a game to when they lose a game. The media calls it, Miami has another level they can get to.


The thing is, you and other posters are trying to judge the HEAT by since Lbj left, you guys should be at this level; but thats not the best method in this situation. Because you don't know how good the HEAT could have actually been these past four years.

They gave us, little spirts of greatness only.

I am hoping that the league has taken the leash completely off of the HEAT/players & Lbj. Once again, just take the time to really watch some of the games and you might notice somethings.

I gave you my reason, why I think the HEAT will have a good upcoming season. Of course you can lol and bash my post, but at least I gave you my reasons.

Shammyguy3
08-30-2014, 03:11 PM
But you are not factoring in that the HEAT were controlled by the league; so things didn't get out of hand.

Are you crazy? How in the world was the Heat controlled by the league? So things wouldn't get out of hand, you mean what exactly? Talk about conspiracy theories: most people think things were set up FOR Miami.


Before you say that can never happen, and all that other stuff... Just take the time to re watch some games. Actually try to compare how the HEAt plays, when they win/dominate a game to when they lose a game. The media calls it, Miami has another level they can get to.

Miami's other level, if they had one, was called Lebron James. All teams win/dominate a game and get beaten handidly the next game. That's the effect of an 82 game season with back to backs and nursing injuries.



The thing is, you and other posters are trying to judge the HEAT by since Lbj left, you guys should be at this level; but thats not the best method in this situation. Because you don't know how good the HEAT could have actually been these past four years.

They could have been the greatest team ever, but they weren't because there was an adjustment period in learning how to play together and there were simply better teams 2 of the years they didn't win. That Heat team after the first season together coasted through every regular season so they would stay healthy in the playoffs. Not hard to grasp, and there is no conspiracy theory as the reason why that was the case.


They gave us, little spirts of greatness only.

What's this mean?


I am hoping that the league has taken the leash completely off of the HEAT/players & Lbj. Once again, just take the time to really watch some of the games and you might notice somethings.

I gave you my reason, why I think the HEAT will have a good upcoming season. Of course you can lol and bash my post, but at least I gave you my reasons.

I think your biased, and your fanhood causes you to believe things that never actually happened. You gave reasons, that's acceptable than saying "they'll win 50" and never giving an explanation. But your explanation is funny to me: honestly, if the Heat win 50+ games what will you say? Will it be "finally! the leash was taken off!!!" or will it be something else?

And what if the Heat win less than 50 games, let's say like 45. Will it only be because of "the leash is still on!" and not because of the players themselves not being as good as you predicted/hoped?

HandsOnTheWheel
08-30-2014, 03:24 PM
Define healthy - are we talking 70 games, 75 games, 80 games? That is a huge variable that needs to be hypothetically set in stone before giving a proper answer.

And I completely disagree. You lost the best player of this generation. He was the focal point of your offense and defense for 4 years. Taking him off your team and replacing him with Luol Deng is a MAJOR downgrade. What big holes have you filled? What depth has been improved? What key role players that are worth anything make you believe in a tougher conference (-) your best player equates to a season with similar regular season success as last year?

Alright so hypothetically, Wade stays healthy for 65-70 games. He's worked hard to get in shape this offseason which he completely neglected to do the year before. His conditioning is much improved and he's had a whole offseason to rest his injuries. Hypothetical, but logical. A healthy, in shape Wade playing in more than 65 games equates to quite a few wins. Again it's all hypothetical.

Wade is a proven playmaker and distributor on offense, you're acting as if Lebron was the only great player on this team such as his old Cleveland Cavaliers days. Sure Lebron will be missed on defense but he is one player whereas it takes a team effort. Deng will surely step in and be a key player defensively, despite being an obvious downgrade.

Back to the 2009-10 campaign the east was just as tough if not tougher. If Wade just so happens to be healthy and in shape I don't see why he can't lead this team to 50 wins. He practically did it ALONE 5 years ago. It's gonna take a while for this post Lebron nostalgia to set in to get people to open their eyes about Wade.

I'll do a sig bet with anyone who doesn't think the Heat will win 50 games.

Big Zo
08-30-2014, 03:25 PM
Heat fans...no disrespect, but you guys are setting yourselves up for major disappointment.

Same thing can be said about Bulls fans thinking Rose will stay healthy.

HandsOnTheWheel
08-30-2014, 03:25 PM
Youre seriously comparing Wade now to what he was 5 years ago? He's not close to the same player so no point in comparing.

Yes.

HandsOnTheWheel
08-30-2014, 03:34 PM
I think your biased, and your fanhood causes you to believe things that never actually happened. You gave reasons, that's acceptable than saying "they'll win 50" and never giving an explanation. But your explanation is funny to me: honestly, if the Heat win 50+ games what will you say? Will it be "finally! the leash was taken off!!!" or will it be something else?

And what if the Heat win less than 50 games, let's say like 45. Will it only be because of "the leash is still on!" and not because of the players themselves not being as good as you predicted/hoped?

I'm assuming that's relating to my posts. I gave my reasons whether you believe them or not.

WaDe03
08-31-2014, 05:35 PM
The Heats record last year had a lot to do with them coasting and not really caring about the regular season. Also resting Wade hurt them at the beginning of the season, they were terrible when he didn't play.

Wade said he's getting his body ready for a 75+ games regular season. I'm going to say they finish 3rd behind Cleveland and Chicago unless Rose can't get back to his normal self. Once you get in the playoffs no one will want to play the Heat and I wouldn't be surprised if they came out of the east.

It's hard to say now because free agency isn't over and there are still some good pieces out there along with the trade rumors going around so we won't know final team rosters until after the trade deadline.

If Wade plays 75 games this team is top 3 in the east.

JordansBulls
08-31-2014, 09:37 PM
Chicago/Cleveland/Miami are the top 3 in any order.

Dade County
08-31-2014, 10:54 PM
Chicago/Cleveland/Miami are the top 3 in any order.


I wouldn't say in any order, unless you are factoring in that Rose might not be able to play over 70 games, this upcoming season. The Bulls will have a very good record if Rose can stay healthy.

And Lbj is back in Cleveland, thats what the league wanted and he will be their beloved poster boy.



Are you crazy? How in the world was the Heat controlled by the league? So things wouldn't get out of hand, you mean what exactly? Talk about conspiracy theories: most people think things were set up FOR Miami.


Miami's other level, if they had one, was called Lebron James. All teams win/dominate a game and get beaten handidly the next game. That's the effect of an 82 game season with back to backs and nursing injuries.



They could have been the greatest team ever, but they weren't because there was an adjustment period in learning how to play together and there were simply better teams 2 of the years they didn't win. That Heat team after the first season together coasted through every regular season so they would stay healthy in the playoffs. Not hard to grasp, and there is no conspiracy theory as the reason why that was the case.



What's this mean?



I think your biased, and your fanhood causes you to believe things that never actually happened. You gave reasons, that's acceptable than saying "they'll win 50" and never giving an explanation. But your explanation is funny to me: honestly, if the Heat win 50+ games what will you say? Will it be "finally! the leash was taken off!!!" or will it be something else?

And what if the Heat win less than 50 games, let's say like 45. Will it only be because of "the leash is still on!" and not because of the players themselves not being as good as you predicted/hoped?

In short, I believe the league is rigged. Everything you have brought up, I have stated in past post.

If the HEAT have a bad year because of lack of talent or injury of course I wouldn't blame the league; but if they throw games & or series, then yes I would respond accordingly... NBA = Entertainment

cssdmark
08-31-2014, 11:31 PM
Bulls
Cavs
Knicks
Wizards
Raptor
Heat
Atlanta
Charlotte

That's it folks, go to Vegas with it.

HandsOnTheWheel
09-01-2014, 12:13 AM
Bulls
Cavs
Knicks
Wizards
Raptor
Heat
Atlanta
Charlotte

That's it folks, go to Vegas with it.

You wanna put money on that?

dalton749
09-01-2014, 02:07 AM
1. Bulls
2. Cavs
8. Knicks
4. Wizards
3. Raptors
5. Heat
7. Atlanta
6. Charlotte

That's it folks, go to Vegas with it.

you count funny

ChI_ShIzzLe
09-01-2014, 10:05 PM
Bulls
Cavs
Knicks
Wizards
Raptor
Heat
Atlanta
Charlotte

That's it folks, go to Vegas with it.
You almost had me convinced until I saw the noun "Knicks" at #3.

THE MTL
09-02-2014, 02:17 AM
I got the Cavs Bulls and Wizards at the top. And seeds 4-8 can go either way depending on chemistry, injuries, career years, coaching. Up for grabs between: Heat, Knicks, Nets, Bobcats, Hawks, Pistons, and Raptors.

TheNumber37
09-02-2014, 04:09 PM
No one in the east is winning 60 games