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MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-28-2014, 02:39 PM
The New TV Deal: Much has been made about the possibilities of massive economic expansion in the NBA tied to on-going TV rights negotiations. While all parties involved are keeping these talks close to the vest there are a few things that have come out as these discussions have taken place.

It seems ESPN/ABC and Turner Sports will renew with the NBA, although there are some things that look like they may change.

There is a sense that the NBA Finals will be split up among ESPN/ABC and Turner, giving Turner potential the mid-week games, while ESPN/ABC gets the weekend games.

The current rights package pays the NBA some $940 million per year, with Turner paying some $445 million per year with ESPN/ABC paying and estimated $485 million. Those figures are expected to almost double in a new deal with some estimates pegging the new deals to be worth $1.2 to $1.4 billion annually.

The wrinkle that may really drive the value up is a third partner. There has been considerable talk that Fox Sports 1 may be closing in on securing a rights deal for what insiders are calling NBA Saturday, which is a package of Saturday night games, which could add an additional $250 to $300 million to the total.

There has also been some talk that a new rights package may also include domestic expansion options, should the NBA decide to make that move.

It’s important to take all expansion talk with a grain of salt, but J Bruce Miller a Louisville attorney, who is leading the charge to land a NBA team in Louisville wrote a substantial post for a Facebook campaign geared around bringing the NBA to Louisville. In the letter, Miller immediately denounces the idea of expansion in the immediate future, citing the ongoing mess with the Clippers, however implies that after the Donlad Sterling mess is resolved, potential expansion into new markets could add new value to the TV deal and that Seattle and Louisville are on the radar.

Again, take all expansion talk with a grain of salt.

NBA sources have warned that expansion domestically is something of a pipe dream, mainly because what gets put in terms of an expansion fee is usually never greater than what a new member team takes out of the pie, and that given how long it takes a team to ramp up sales and revenue generation, expansion simply puts one more mouth at the table that usually does not carry its own weight.

Given what a new share of the TV deal could be worth, the existing 30 owners may not be willing to share the wealth to the expand the league, but it does seem like there could be some language in the new TV deal to allow for it and that’s a huge first step.



http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-bledsoe-monroe-and-love/7VwSIbjZ7EUEv4bF.99

Hard to say if all 30 teams wanna share piece of the pie. But a lot of teams would love a expansion draft to dump bad contracts for free.

nickdymez
07-28-2014, 02:50 PM
No more expansion teams. Enough teams in the league

bleedprple&gold
07-28-2014, 02:53 PM
Dont expansion teams get to choose who they want in the expansion draft? So why would they just take a bunch of bad contracts?

abe_froman
07-28-2014, 02:59 PM
i get ky is college bball mad,but i dunno if its a big enough market to support a major team ,and have concerns that talent pool isnt deep enough to support expansion

MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-28-2014, 02:59 PM
Dont expansion teams get to choose who they want in the expansion draft? So why would they just take a bunch of bad contracts?

I believe all teams dump two players they don't want into expansion draft pool. Rest are protected from selections. Most players are old and washed up or injured or over paid. So instead of teams mortgaging future first round picks to dump players. Good old Seattle/Louisville come taking the junk for free.

abe_froman
07-28-2014, 03:00 PM
Dont expansion teams get to choose who they want in the expansion draft? So why would they just take a bunch of bad contracts?

no,every team gets to protect 8 players and expansion teams pick from the unprotected pool

MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-28-2014, 03:03 PM
i get ky is college bball mad,but i dunno if its a big enough market to support a major team ,and have concerns that talent pool isnt deep enough to support expansion I wouldn't worry about a diluted talent pool. NBA been diluted since 1989. A lot of teams been added 89' and on. Not gonna name names. But here's a link when teams were added.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/

mike_noodles
07-28-2014, 03:10 PM
Talent pool isn't an issue if they could limit teams from having three stars playing together somehow. But since the truck is being driven by the players, adding two more expansion teams will simply create two more have nots. Though I could see Louisville being a very successful franchise.

abe_froman
07-28-2014, 03:13 PM
I wouldn't worry about a diluted talent pool. NBA been diluted since 1989. A lot of teams been added 89' and on. Not gonna name names. But here's a link when teams were added.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/
i know that and it diluted the league for a while after

MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-28-2014, 03:17 PM
Like the article say 30 teams might not wanna share piece of the pie. But what if the league said starting bids for city buy ins start at $1B for auction? Watch a city like Vegas cough up $3B. Then I bet NBA owners say sure you can play. I know players union would say yes cause that's possibly 30 more players added to the league. Since each roster can have a max up to 15 players. Also remember NBA only has 30 teams. NFL has 32 teams.

FlashBolt
07-28-2014, 03:17 PM
Diluted my @$$. More opportunity for some NBA players to prove their talent. I have no doubt there are some bench players who could be potential all-stars but aren't given the opportunity.

jneises21
07-28-2014, 04:00 PM
Bring back the KC Kings

Shammyguy3
07-28-2014, 04:39 PM
Diluted my @$$. More opportunity for some NBA players to prove their talent. I have no doubt there are some bench players who could be potential all-stars but aren't given the opportunity.

Which bench players are you thinking of?

Hellcrooner
07-28-2014, 07:06 PM
Nba should do this.

Eliminate conferences and horizontal divisions.

Add 10 Teams to round up to 40.

Divide the league in TWO vertical divisions of 20.

The top 8 teams in the regular season from the first división enter the playoffs for the title.
the bottwom 2 teams get relegated to second división for the following season.

The top team in the regular season in the second división gets promoted to first división AND gets the 1st pick in the draft.

the teams seeded 2-9 in teh second división enter playoffs, the winner gets promoted to first división AND gets the second pick in the draft.

Draft:

1 winner of second división of regular season.
2 winner of playoffs second división.

3 to 32 the rest of the second división teams + first división NON PLAYOFF teams enter a lottery with EQUAL ODDS.

33-40 first división playoff teams in relation record.

41-60 second división teams from worst record to best record
61-80 first división teams from worst record to best record.


yeah, ladies and gentlemen i just got rid of tanking FOREVER:

Shammyguy3
07-28-2014, 07:15 PM
There are barely 40 teams combined between the NBA and the D-league, that's a terrible idea

Hellcrooner
07-28-2014, 07:27 PM
There are barely 40 teams combined between the NBA and the D-league, that's a terrible idea

VANCOUVER
SEATTLE
SAN DIEGO
LAS VEGAS
KANSAS CITY
LOUISVILLE
SAN JOSE
JACKSONVILLE
AUSTIN
FORT WORTH
BALTIMORE
NASHVILLE
SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
MEXICO DF
TIJUANA
ALBUQUERQUE
TUCSON
FRESNO
VIRGINIA BEACH
MONTREAL
QUEBEC
TULSA
ARLINGTON
HONOLULU
ANAHEIM
TAMPA
PISTBURGH
ANCHORAGE
CINCINNATI
TOLEDO
NEWARK/NJ
BUFFALLO
ROCHESTER
FORTH WAYNE
RICHMOND
LITTLE ROCK
TALAHASSEE

AND SO ON AND ON AND ON.

Dont give me the b.s that there arent enough cities big enough to support a team.

Shammyguy3
07-28-2014, 07:31 PM
VANCOUVER
SEATTLE
SAN DIEGO
LAS VEGAS
KANSAS CITY
LOUISVILLE
SAN JOSE
JACKSONVILLE
AUSTIN
FORT WORTH
BALTIMORE
NASHVILLE
SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO
MEXICO DF
TIJUANA
ALBUQUERQUE
TUCSON
FRESNO
VIRGINIA BEACH
MONTREAL
QUEBEC
TULSA
ARLINGTON
HONOLULU
ANAHEIM
TAMPA
PISTBURGH
ANCHORAGE
CINCINNATI
TOLEDO
NEWARK/NJ
BUFFALLO
ROCHESTER
FORTH WAYNE
RICHMOND
LITTLE ROCK
TALAHASSEE

AND SO ON AND ON AND ON.

Dont give me the b.s that there arent enough cities big enough to support a team.

Lol, i didn't say anything close to that (and my post was quite short so idk how you could've gotten yourself confused while reading it)

xxplayerxx23
07-28-2014, 07:42 PM
There are barely 40 teams combined between the NBA and the D-league, that's a terrible idea

Don't take anything croon says serious he's crazy lol

Taimla
07-28-2014, 08:22 PM
My pipe dream about NBA's next actions would be:

Add 2 teams ( seatle and louisville) so we have 16 teams in play/offs and 16 in lottery.
Lose conferences. 16 best teams in nba will be in play/offs.
All team will play against each other twice, home and awey.
So it's 62 games for each team.
Add NBA cup week where all 32 teams will play tournament style like march madness.
And in Draft lotery all 16 teams will have equal chance for nr 1,2,3 etc spot.

Mr.B
07-28-2014, 08:24 PM
No more expansion teams. Enough teams in the league
I agree, the talent pool is diluted enough as it is.

Hulk6
07-28-2014, 08:27 PM
who the hell would wanna live in kentucky

JustinTime
07-28-2014, 08:37 PM
Expansion after Contraction. Get rid of ATL, Milwaukee, Memphis, New Orleans, Minnesota, Charlotte, Orlando, Sacramento, OKC. Expand to Seattle, Vancouver,Montreal, St Louis, Baltimore. Teams will be called the Seattle Supersonics, Vancouver Grizzles, Montreal Frenchmen, St Louis Crime, Baltimore Crabs

Atlantic
Brooklyn
Boston
New York
Montreal Frenchmen

Central
Indiana
Chicago
Cleveland
Detroit
Toronto

South east
Miami
Washington
Baltimore
Philadelphia

North West
Vancouver
Seattle
Portland
Denver
Utah

Pacific
Clippers
Golden State
Phoenix
La Lakers

Southwest
San Antonio
Houston
Dallas
St. Louis

Kevj77
07-28-2014, 08:41 PM
No more expansion. Seattle should get the first team to move. Talent is thin enough. Stars want to team up and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. A bigger TV deal will significantly increase the salary cap allowing stars to team up even easier.

It won't be good for the NBA to create two new have nots.

JustinTime
07-28-2014, 09:08 PM
No more expansion. Seattle should get the first team to move. Talent is thin enough. Stars want to team up and there is nothing that can be done to stop it. A bigger TV deal will significantly increase the salary cap allowing stars to team up even easier.

It won't be good for the NBA to create two new have nots.

There's plenty that can be done to stop it.

THE MTL
07-28-2014, 09:09 PM
I think 32 teams would work cause Seattle would be a large basketball market. Move the hornets and grizzlies back to the east and add Vancouver and seattle

king4day
07-28-2014, 10:01 PM
I'm surprised Pittsburgh isn't in the running for a team. Such an incredible city. The fanbase is great for the other teams. Would love to see that.

Going to tweak the title a bit

JustinTime
07-28-2014, 11:25 PM
I'm surprised Pittsburgh isn't in the running for a team. Such an incredible city. The fanbase is great for the other teams. Would love to see that.

Going to tweak the title a bit

They did it in hockey and I though the US was more into Basketball. Although the Penguins wouldn't exist right now if it weren't for Crosby.

Nikeman
07-28-2014, 11:36 PM
Louisville??

wtf... why the hell would they get a team? Seattle makes sense, but Louisville?? what in the world....

MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-29-2014, 08:07 AM
League should just have a auction to the two highest bidding cities. I bet Vegas would land it. Other probably Seattle. Unless a big market wants another team like Chicago or LA or NY. Doubt the league would even have a contraction. Cause the league would have to pony up a buyout for the owners teams that get deleted. Players union wouldn't go for it cause less chances getting into NBA and less jobs. I think there's plenty of tv rights to go around if the new tv deal gets more tv channels companies to buy in.

sixers247
07-29-2014, 08:51 AM
I'm surprised Pittsburgh isn't in the running for a team. Such an incredible city. The fanbase is great for the other teams. Would love to see that.

Going to tweak the title a bit

Such an awesome city, but they really don't care about basketball at all out there lol. Its quite shocking.