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Hellcrooner
07-17-2014, 11:59 AM
Lebron, Deng etc etc.
If you watch the signings there are a lot of 2 year deals.

Whats the reasons for players for these short deals?

They expect to be a lock out in 2017 so they are having their contracts expire in 2016 in order o get paid Before the new cba where they have no guarantees things get even tigher and money shallower.
So they want to sign their long commitments under the current one in order to make sure they win more money or get fully paid if they are amnestied after the new one.

Shouldnt teams have been dead on not offering them less tan 3 years and thus refuse to play under the players hands?

ManRam
07-17-2014, 12:11 PM
I mean, LeBron and Deng had all the leverage there. Not sure those teams had any choice but to "cave". You really think Cleveland is gonna say "no, you have no choice...sign for 4 years or go back to Miami"? :laugh:

I think the reasoning is that the NBA is set up for a new TV contract and thus there will be a lot more money in the pot to tap into. At least LeBron...he can make a lot more if he opts out after a year, or renegotiate after 2. The max contract is based on a percentage of the total cap. So, if the cap goes up, he can get more. LeBron has spoken out about how the CBA restricts what he can make, so clearly he has that in mind.

And yeah, some people think players will be gunning for the end of max contracts in 2017. Having the flexibility to capitalize on that if by some chance it happens is obviously huge. James has potentially sacrificed financially enough in his mind...

And Indy didn't cave. Look where it got them...

Pierzynski4Prez
07-17-2014, 12:22 PM
I think Deng just accepted the best offer he was presented. And knew the longer he waited, the less cap space teams would have.

Jetsguy
07-17-2014, 12:28 PM
I think from the team perspective many are hoping for a shot at KD

abe_froman
07-17-2014, 12:41 PM
its not the teams,its the players/agents.see in 2 years the new tv contracts kick in and will dramatically raise revenues(meaning the cap will be raised by a lot).so the union has advised players not to lock themselves into contracts under the current environment

IndyRealist
07-17-2014, 12:58 PM
Teams will be flush with cap space in 2016 because of the new tv deal, and a bunch of max contracts will be given out. Players who want to maximize their income are taking 2yr deals.

Hawkeye15
07-17-2014, 01:04 PM
its not the teams,its the players/agents.see in 2 years the new tv contracts kick in and will dramatically raise revenues(meaning the cap will be raised by a lot).so the union has advised players not to lock themselves into contracts under the current environment

yep

Big Zo
07-17-2014, 01:37 PM
Players want it for the 2016 higher cap, and teams are willing to accept in order to clear cap space to attract some of them during this time.

bleedprple&gold
07-17-2014, 01:53 PM
You could make the argument that players are the ones "caving" too because many of then want the long term security now but teams want to save cap space for 2016. So I wouldnt consider either side to be "caving" more than the other.

kobe4thewinbang
07-17-2014, 02:08 PM
You could make the argument that players are the ones "caving" too because many of then want the long term security now but teams want to save cap space for 2016. So I wouldnt consider either side to be "caving" more than the other.I think it's a bit of both. They get 2 years instead of just one year (more security, unless it's non-guaranteed) and then everybody is free for the lockout phase/revenue increase.

0nekhmer
07-17-2014, 02:25 PM
For the lesser players, it's better for GMs to have flexible contacts anyway. But in lebrons case, he'll be guaranteed a lot more money with the new cba

FYL_McVeezy
07-17-2014, 02:40 PM
I think it's mutual. Teams want to clear the books for 2016 and the players want to capitalize on the new TV deal.

goingfor28
07-17-2014, 02:47 PM
I think it's mutual. Teams want to clear the books for 2016 and the players want to capitalize on the new TV deal.
I agree w this

Bruno
07-17-2014, 03:32 PM
players are waiting on the new TV deal and CBA, owners are saving space for Durant in summer 2016.

kingsdelez24
07-17-2014, 03:34 PM
Crooner probably thinks LeBron and other players are cowards for not signing for at least 3 years like Pau Gasol lol

But yeah, the tv deal is a thing

Hellcrooner
07-17-2014, 03:55 PM
Crooner probably thinks LeBron and other players are cowards for not signing for at least 3 years like Pau Gasol lol

But yeah, the tv deal is a thing

gasol basically has also signed a 2 year contract too ( thid year is a player option)

:p

Sandman
07-17-2014, 04:00 PM
Max contracts, the cap and the luxury tax are all based on pieces of the overall revenue pie

The revenue pie can grow exponentially with the new TV deal

Players could be leaving significant coin on the table by signing through the next TV deal

archdevil84
07-17-2014, 04:14 PM
kevin durant

kingsdelez24
07-17-2014, 04:17 PM
Crooner probably thinks LeBron and other players are cowards for not signing for at least 3 years like Pau Gasol lol

But yeah, the tv deal is a thing

gasol basically has also signed a 2 year contract too ( thid year is a player option)

:p

Ah damn lol. I missed the player option part in the offseason tracker on the game time app

Ty Fast
07-17-2014, 04:20 PM
Free agent class gonna be sick and cap goes up in 2 years too

j-bay
07-17-2014, 04:41 PM
Wizards are doing it for Durant accoring to multiple sources

Sssmush
07-17-2014, 04:45 PM
Hmmm, are we saying that Phil Jackson pulled off a coup by leveraging Carmelo to sign for five years?

Maybe that was the pressure point, maybe that's why Carmelo balked at siging and flirted with Chicago in the media for two weeks.

In the end Phil got his man. Carmelo even shaved $7m off the five year total. Phil got him to a five year deal with a 5% haircut. That's actually good stability for NYK unless he gets fat or clashes with Phil about running in the Triangle.

His entourage will probably be telling him he's got to run the Triangle on Kobe's terms, who broke the rules sometimes, he had the Kobe rules. But Fisher isnt as respected as Phil, and the Triangle is a pretty extreme system of selfless team ball. Individual averages go down immediately. Can Carmelo handle averaging 18 points?

Sadds The Gr8
07-17-2014, 04:47 PM
Tv deal plus Durant sweepstakes

Sssmush
07-17-2014, 04:50 PM
I guess what we're wondering is can Carmelo play team ball.

As for Lebron etc on their two year deals... Who cares. It's played out, he'll be 33 next free agency and he already missed a lot of shots in the Finals and Kawhi slowed him down.

Beyond Durant, who's still on his first extension, the new wave is guys like Anthony Davis, Julius Randle, Damon Lillard, etc.

NBA_Starter
07-17-2014, 09:27 PM
Because of the new tv deal.