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Dade County
06-30-2014, 08:56 PM
Instead of having numerous threads about every free agent, maybe we can post them all in one spot, until a player actually signs with a team. :shrug:



Report: Rockets to focus on Bosh, Kyle Lowry if Melo pitch fails

The Houston Rockets will turn their free-agency attention to Chris Bosh and Kyle Lowry if they are not successful with their pitch to Carmelo Anthony, according to Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle.
The top priority if unable to land one of the top two targets would shift to Miami forward Chris Bosh if things change and the Heat power trio breaks up. But Bosh seems determined to remain in Miami. The Rockets are expected to take a run at their former point guard Kyle Lowry, though the Raptors hope to reach agreement to keep him before the Rockets or other teams would have a chance to know where they stand with their initial targets.
Bosh would be a fantastic fit for a Houston team that badly needs what he brings. The Rockets tried various stretch-four options last season, but always had to sacrifice defense for shooting. Bosh is elite at defending the pick-and-roll, and likely would get a bit of relief playing next to Dwight Howard instead of serving as the back line of the Miami Heat defense. As much as it makes sense, basketball-wise, Bosh has been open about how comfortable he is in Miami. The likelihood of him leaving seems low.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602012/report-rockets-to-focus-on-bosh-kyle-lowry-if-melo-pitch-fails

Dade County
06-30-2014, 08:59 PM
Sean Deveney ✔ @SeanDeveney
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Source says 4 or 5 suitors for Jordan Hill, inc @HoustonRockets, @dallasmavs. Not ruling out @Lakers return. Will take time. Wants long deal
8:53 PM - 30 Jun 2014


How do you embed tweets?

jerellh528
06-30-2014, 09:54 PM
2 hrs away :D

Rush
06-30-2014, 09:55 PM
Good idea. Any news, signings, trades, etc. that aren't major or noteworthy, please put them in here so we don't have the forum clogged up. The transactions involving big players may have their own thread.

MagicBucsSox
06-30-2014, 09:56 PM
@ESPNSteinLine: And the Orlando Magic are another team said to possess Greg Monroe interest.

ManRam
06-30-2014, 10:07 PM
Above all else, Greg Monroe is the one guy I least want the Magic throwing money at.

Deception
06-30-2014, 10:13 PM
Above all else, Greg Monroe is the one guy I least want the Magic throwing money at.

Pistons fans hope Magic are interested, they have the assets for a S&T

ManRam
06-30-2014, 10:37 PM
Pistons fans hope Magic are interested, they have the assets for a S&T

We don't need to S&T for him. But yeah, I guess you could threaten to match unless we do offer something...if that's even a thing.

But I can't imagine the front office would sign Monroe for the huge contract he'll command in addition to offering up a useful asset. Not with Vucevic on board.

NYKNYGNYY
06-30-2014, 10:49 PM
Wonder if anything happens by morning

king4day
06-30-2014, 10:57 PM
Instead of having numerous threads about every free agent, maybe we can post them all in one spot, until a player actually signs with a team. :shrug:

Good call on the thread idea.

Regarding you post, I think Houston will be too late on Bosh and Lowry should Melo bolt.

king4day
06-30-2014, 11:02 PM
We don't need to S&T for him. But yeah, I guess you could threaten to match unless we do offer something...if that's even a thing.

But I can't imagine the front office would sign Monroe for the huge contract he'll command in addition to offering up a useful asset. Not with Vucevic on board.

That's what the Suns did when Joe Johnson was restricted. We ended up getting Diaw and Robin Lopez (as a future first).

(Fun fact: The year before Phoenix cashed in the Atlanta pick, it was top 3 protected (I believe). Had Atlanta gotten the 4th selection, Phoenix was expected to take Noah. Instead, the Hawks got the 3rd and wound up with Horford I believe it was. A year later the Suns got Atlanta's pick and selected Lopez. I could be off by a pick or two but Phoenix would have had Noah regardless.)

KnicksYanks
06-30-2014, 11:09 PM
Gasol meeting with Thunder, Bulls and warriors

Aust
06-30-2014, 11:10 PM
Above all else, Greg Monroe is the one guy I least want the Magic throwing money at.

Do you not like him as a player, or do you not like the role he would play given the players on your roster?

JWO35
06-30-2014, 11:15 PM
A lot of teams are interested in Monroe....being a Pistons fan I just want something in return, anything that isn't a bad contract

Dade County
06-30-2014, 11:18 PM
Jason Lloyd @JasonLloydABJ · 17m
Interesting to hear Deng's name connected to Heat. #Cavs once considered Deng a key piece to get LBJ here. But without Bosh & Wade of course



Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria about 12 minutes ago
Source confirms to @SNYtv that Lionel Hollins will meet Tuesday or Wed with the Nets, saying he is a "major player" for the job.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36BQFRkPU

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MagicBucsSox
06-30-2014, 11:19 PM
I'll over pay Monroe with no prob. We have the reach the cap floor and I'd rather do it on a fringe All star(Drummond) then guys just filling out a roster.

Dade County
06-30-2014, 11:24 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA · 4m
Miami will pursue Kyle Lowry, Luol Deng, Trevor Ariza, Marcin Gortat and Marvin Williams, according to @WojYahooNBA: http://basketballinsiders.com/2014-nba-free-agency-diary/ …
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Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA · 3m
The Portland Trail Blazers want to sign-and-trade for Greg Monroe, reports @ESPNSteinLine. That and more in FA diary: http://basketballinsiders.com/2014-nba-free-agency-diary/ …

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goingfor28
07-01-2014, 12:09 AM
That big lebron news thread that got closed was GOLD. :clap: well done raider guy!

mjt20mik
07-01-2014, 12:12 AM
That big lebron news thread that got closed was GOLD. :clap: well done raider guy!

I died lol.. too funny

MagicBucsSox
07-01-2014, 12:25 AM
Miami needs Gortat more than any newcomer

Crackadalic
07-01-2014, 12:28 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 2 minutes ago
Dallas calls on RFA Chandler Parsons, and make no mistake: If Mavs miss on 'Melo, they'll be aggressive in pursuit of Parsons, sources say.

phlp_bj
07-01-2014, 12:50 AM
@WojYahooNBA: Clippers have called on Luol Deng tonight, source tells Yahoo.

m.twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

DarkKnight
07-01-2014, 12:51 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 2 minutes ago
Dallas calls on RFA Chandler Parsons, and make no mistake: If Mavs miss on 'Melo, they'll be aggressive in pursuit of Parsons, sources say.

Guess Parsons it is, No way Melo wants to be reunited with Krispy Kreme

DarkKnight
07-01-2014, 12:52 AM
Al Iannazzone @Al_Iannazzone about 6 minutes ago
The Knicks, as expected, have reached out to Melo, a source said. He will begin his free- agent tour in Chicago later today.

bulls_world23
07-01-2014, 12:54 AM
Andray Blatche has been telling people around the league that he may end up with the New Orleans Pelicans, according to sources.

Htownballa1622
07-01-2014, 12:57 AM
Edit nvm

KobeOwnSU
07-01-2014, 12:59 AM
Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur now
“@WojoYahooNBA: 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers >> Dang

KobeOwnSU
07-01-2014, 01:00 AM
**** was fake...Nevermind.

phlp_bj
07-01-2014, 01:01 AM
@WojYahooNBA: Miami's Pat Riley has called Luol Deng's reps and registered his significant interest, source tells Yahoo.

m.twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

KobeOwnSU
07-01-2014, 01:02 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Miami's Pat Riley has called Luol Deng's reps and registered his significant interest, source tells Yahoo.

thephoenixson28
07-01-2014, 01:04 AM
That's what the Suns did when Joe Johnson was restricted. We ended up getting Diaw and Robin Lopez (as a future first).

(Fun fact: The year before Phoenix cashed in the Atlanta pick, it was top 3 protected (I believe). Had Atlanta gotten the 4th selection, Phoenix was expected to take Noah. Instead, the Hawks got the 3rd and wound up with Horford I believe it was. A year later the Suns got Atlanta's pick and selected Lopez. I could be off by a pick or two but Phoenix would have had Noah regardless.)

Actually we would've traded the pick for Kevin Garnett. But Boston had the 5th pick. Only if Shawn Marion would've signed a extension.

bulls_world23
07-01-2014, 01:04 AM
No way Deng goes to heat.

KobeOwnSU
07-01-2014, 01:09 AM
SportsCenter ‏@SportsCenter 2m
Lakers have reached out to LeBron James' agent Rich Paul tonight. (via @ramonashelburne)

KobeOwnSU
07-01-2014, 01:11 AM
No way Deng goes to heat.

Its possible if the Heat have decided that Lowry isn't an option anymore.

bulls_world23
07-01-2014, 01:17 AM
Its possible if the Heat have decided that Lowry isn't an option anymore.I'm sure someone will pay him over 10 mil a year and it won't be the heat

Crackadalic
07-01-2014, 01:22 AM
Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN 2 minutes ago
The Celtics reached out to Isaiah Thomas tonight. Interesting, the Kings and Celtics had recently been in talks on Rajon Rondo deal.

goingfor28
07-01-2014, 01:30 AM
Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur now
“@WojoYahooNBA: 3 years/18M for Deng. He is now an @LAClippers #Clippers >> Dang


**** was fake...Nevermind.
Lol

Deception
07-01-2014, 01:46 AM
483848940572254208

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 01:47 AM
@ESPNSteinLine: Line of teams chasing Kyle Lowry so long that Raptors now said to be weighing whether to offer fifth year to Lowry to clinch his re-signing

Cal827
07-01-2014, 01:47 AM
Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN 2 minutes ago
The Celtics reached out to Isaiah Thomas tonight. Interesting, the Kings and Celtics had recently been in talks on Rajon Rondo deal.

I really don't get why the hell a deal hasn't been done already between the two teams. They Kings Want Rondo, have offered the same guys who Boston has been known to be interested in. Now we are hearing the Celtics interest in the players separately. Why the hell hasn't this been done yet? What do they need? A Lunar Eclipse?

Cal827
07-01-2014, 01:48 AM
483848940572254208

****

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 01:48 AM
@WojYahooNBA: Miami reached out to Kyle Lowry's agent Andy Miller tonight, and sides are planning to talk in the morning, source tells Yahoo.

Deception
07-01-2014, 01:49 AM
483849707563651072

DWNTWNLakeShow
07-01-2014, 01:52 AM
483849707563651072
I don't see him playing out those years there. Most likely end up getting traded year 3

Dade County
07-01-2014, 01:53 AM
Why the hell hasn't this been done yet? What do they need? A Lunar Eclipse?



****

:laugh2:

You are too much

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 01:58 AM
@daldridgetnt: Cavs owner Dan Gilbert announces on his account that team and Kyrie Irving have agreed on max extension and will sign July 10.

Dade County
07-01-2014, 02:01 AM
@daldridgetnt: Cavs owner Dan Gilbert announces on his account that team and Kyrie Irving have agreed on max extension and will sign July 10.

As of right now to me, his game isn't worth 18mil a year, but maybe by year 3 of that contract it will.

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 02:05 AM
As of right now to me, his game isn't worth 18mil a year, but maybe by year 3 of that contract it will.

I agree also is a shout to lebron showing how much they're willing to do

Jarvo
07-01-2014, 02:06 AM
...

Lillard, LMA & Monroe :drool:

Funny how I did a trade in 2k for him when I did a season with Portland

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 02:07 AM
@KyrieIrving: I'm here for the long haul Cleveland!!! and I'm ecstatic!! Super excited and blessed to be here and apart of something special.#ClevelandKID

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 02:07 AM
Lillard, LMA & Monroe :drool:

Funny how I did a trade in 2k for him when I did a season with Portland

Is it just me or does lebron always opt out and go to philly?

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 02:08 AM
@Chris_Broussard: Source: Miami, Toronto, Houston and Dallas register interest in signing Kyle Lowry

shep33
07-01-2014, 02:11 AM
Dallas makes sense for Lowry. But I hope he stays in Toronto

colinskik
07-01-2014, 02:11 AM
I'm really confused with the Kyrie max for two reasons:

1. I just don't think he's worth the max. In my gut, he seems like more flash than substance.
2. I thought Kyrie didn't want to be in CLE? I guess money talks...

shep33
07-01-2014, 02:28 AM
Yeah, no solid team offers him the max.

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 02:53 AM
I always thought he would hold out for the Knicks... It's a laker n knick fan thing I guess "every player wants to go to your team" and recently become a Miami thing

b-ballistic
07-01-2014, 03:05 AM
If Lebron came to the Lakers I'd be stoked. But I'd rather produce a team similar to the Spurs. Solid passers, defenders, and long-ballers all around.

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 03:08 AM
@ESPNSteinLine: Sacramento, Charlotte, Minnesota, Orlando and the champs from San Antonio all calling, I'm told, about Brooklyn free agent Shaun Livingston

bucketss
07-01-2014, 03:11 AM
If Lebron came to the Lakers I'd be stoked. But I'd rather produce a team similar to the Spurs. Solid passers, defenders, and long-ballers all around.

but that aint holy-wood enough.

bucketss
07-01-2014, 03:12 AM
@ESPNSteinLine: Sacramento, Charlotte, Minnesota, Orlando and the champs from San Antonio all calling, I'm told, about Brooklyn free agent Shaun Livingston

why doesn't miami get in on this.

b-ballistic
07-01-2014, 03:28 AM
but that aint holy-wood enough.

Boy, you that nail right on the head.

Dade County
07-01-2014, 03:32 AM
Pau Gasol gets calls from Lakers, Mavs, Bulls and Warriors http://www.sportando.com/en/usa/nba/125080/pau-gasol-gets-calls-from-lakers-mavs-bulls-and-warriors.html …




Basketball Insiders @BBallInsiders · 2h
Clippers Confident They can Land Pierce: Clippers, I’m told, believe they have real chance of stealing Paul Pi... http://bit.ly/1rS1b1a
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Mave1002
07-01-2014, 03:38 AM
The Lakers are interested in meeting with restricted free agent Eric Bledsoe.

The Suns may not want to pay the market price for Bledsoe and the Lakers probably look at that possibility with wide eyes and an open wallet. The report included confirmation of our earlier report that the Lakers are interested in Isaiah Thomas

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...ball-headlines

shep33
07-01-2014, 03:47 AM
If I could be as close of a guarantee as possible for one free agent's landing spot... I'd say Pierce goes to the Clips

kobe4thewinbang
07-01-2014, 03:48 AM
If I could be as close of a guarantee as possible for one free agent's landing spot... I'd say Pierce goes to the ClipsWith 'The Truth' the Clippers might actually win something for a change! Wonder how Clippers would've been with Pierce & KG. Damn Stern...

NYKNYGNYY
07-01-2014, 03:51 AM
why doesn't miami get in on this.

I'm guessing he's gonna want a pay day n the heat are hoping for lowery or something

DODGERS&LAKERS
07-01-2014, 03:57 AM
On my phone so it's a pain in the arse to quote but Ramona Shelburne tweeted the Lakers reached out to Melo and have a meeting scheduled for Thursday.

shep33
07-01-2014, 03:59 AM
Lakers have reached out to LeBron, Melo, Parsons, Swaggy, Pau, Ariza, Meeks, Bazemore.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36CZ7W4o2

I don't think our FO understands the salary cap lol. JK, I know it's all contingency based, but still... Hard time believing we can nab a couple of high end free agents (Bron, Melo, etc)

shep33
07-01-2014, 04:24 AM
Woj is such a tease...


Getting intel some deals already lining up as soon as Tuesday afternoon. Back at it in a few hours.

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36CfC3Z2B

Mave1002
07-01-2014, 04:35 AM
Eric Pincus @EricPincus 4 minutes ago

Updated @BBallInsiders Los Angeles Lakers Team Salary $103.2 mil on books but can also have up to $28.5 mil in cap basketballinsiders.com/los-angeles-la…

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/social/buzz/team/los-angeles-lakers.html#ixzz36Ci1wWIe

5ass
07-01-2014, 06:14 AM
28 mill in capspace would leave the Lakers with Kobe and?? Even if they sign a max free agent, they still can't build a proper team around them. At least not this year.

king4day
07-01-2014, 09:48 AM
The Lakers are interested in meeting with restricted free agent Eric Bledsoe.

The Suns may not want to pay the market price for Bledsoe and the Lakers probably look at that possibility with wide eyes and an open wallet. The report included confirmation of our earlier report that the Lakers are interested in Isaiah Thomas

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...ball-headlines

This was another fake account. Check out the twitter handle:

Chad Ford
‏@ChadFordinsid3r

It's also not verified. Oddly enough, someone (probably the same person) created another dumby account with the same news.

Lo Porto
07-01-2014, 09:54 AM
28 mill in capspace would leave the Lakers with Kobe and?? Even if they sign a max free agent, they still can't build a proper team around them. At least not this year.

The Lakers can shed Nash and his $10 million if they throw in their 2015 first. Then LA could sign two huge players or 3-4 big players.

thephoenixson28
07-01-2014, 10:00 AM
The Lakers can shed Nash and his $10 million if they throw in their 2015 first. Then LA could sign two huge players or 3-4 big players.
Phoenix has Lakers 1st round pick. I'm sorry to say your stuck with Nash.

Jarvo
07-01-2014, 10:20 AM
Is it just me or does lebron always opt out and go to philly?

When I play he goes to PHX and Dallas lol

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 10:39 AM
I think Kome taking that ridiculous contract will hurt at the end of the day. You can't give $28 mill up to two guys who want max money and expect to have great role players because LA hasn't been a good contender since before the 2013 season when Dwight and Nash just became Lakers (before all the chemistry issues and injuries).

DODGERS&LAKERS
07-01-2014, 11:49 AM
We don't have 28 million. We only have 22. There is no reason to stretch Nash. We are not signing any big time free agents that will turn our fortunes next year. I don't want them to waste money on Deng, or Melo, or any other older players turning 30 that will want multiple years at high end money. I would like them to reach out to Bledsoe, maybe Parsons, maybe Stevenson even though he is crazy. But we need young athletic players. No more dinosaurs. I hope they don't tie up the cap for next year or seasons going forward for mediocre players and then we're stuck with that roster for another five years.

WITZ
07-01-2014, 12:01 PM
Some news for the pistons fans.

Chris Sheridan ✔ @sheridanhoops
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Free agency news roundup is updated with @Isaiah_Thomas2 being offered $24M for three years by #Pistons: http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/07/01/sheridans-top-25-free-agents-july-1-edition/ …
7:46 AM - 1 Jul 2014

Blink
07-01-2014, 12:10 PM
No way we can take Thomas unless there is a deal lined up for Jennings.

Way to small to play together. S & T makes no sense either Cuz the Kings might as well just match the offer.

Maybe Smith comes back into play but Ijust ddon't see it.

JLynn943
07-01-2014, 12:34 PM
No way we can take Thomas unless there is a deal lined up for Jennings.

Way to small to play together. S & T makes no sense either Cuz the Kings might as well just match the offer.

Maybe Smith comes back into play but Ijust ddon't see it.

Yeah, I'm hoping the rumor is wrong. I want to keep Isaiah, but I think $8M/yr is probably a stretch.

FlashBolt
07-01-2014, 12:48 PM
We don't have 28 million. We only have 22. There is no reason to stretch Nash. We are not signing any big time free agents that will turn our fortunes next year. I don't want them to waste money on Deng, or Melo, or any other older players turning 30 that will want multiple years at high end money. I would like them to reach out to Bledsoe, maybe Parsons, maybe Stevenson even though he is crazy. But we need young athletic players. No more dinosaurs. I hope they don't tie up the cap for next year or seasons going forward for mediocre players and then we're stuck with that roster for another five years.

Melo can shoot against anyone and will continue to do so for years. He doesn't go through much in terms of how he plays, anyways. He'll be an asset for many years to come. Going after Bledsoe is a good idea but I fear some of them may be too young.

Dade County
07-01-2014, 01:00 PM
We will see...


The Heat's free agents – James, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and Udonis Haslem – have the framework of deals in place to remain with Miami, arming Riley with his limitations within the salary cap to sign talent, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

"Everybody has their [contract] number and has left a little bit of room to let [Riley] maneuver," one source briefed on the contract discussions told Yahoo Sports.

Now, it is on Riley to replenish a roster that failed in a five-game NBA Finals loss to San Antonio. As Yahoo Sports reported on Saturday, James is pursuing a full max contract extension, beginning at $20.6 million – or something slightly below. Bosh and Wade will need to take pay cuts – Wade's significant – to create the cap space for Miami to be competitive in pursuit of free agent targets that include Kyle Lowry, Luol Deng, Marcin Gortat, Trevor Ariza and Marvin Williams.

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 01:01 PM
Melo can shoot against anyone and will continue to do so for years. He doesn't go through much in terms of how he plays, anyways. He'll be an asset for many years to come. Going after Bledsoe is a good idea but I fear some of them may be too young.

Melo is a ball stopper. So is Kome.

Blink
07-01-2014, 01:25 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping the rumor is wrong. I want to keep Isaiah, but I think $8M/yr is probably a stretch.

Well if paying him 8 mil a year means Jennings is gone then I'll pay the man 8 mil a year. Haha

He is just the efficient scorer Jennings isn't.

DODGERS&LAKERS
07-01-2014, 01:39 PM
Melo can shoot against anyone and will continue to do so for years. He doesn't go through much in terms of how he plays, anyways. He'll be an asset for many years to come. Going after Bledsoe is a good idea but I fear some of them may be too young.

I don't mind the players being young because we don't have a chance at a championship. I am just looking for players that will come here that will make it better for free agents in the future to want to play with. So many of today's NBA players do not care about teams history or getting the most money. They want to play on teams with talent that can give them a chance to win. We have no assets on the current roster that make it enticing for any player to want to play here. I think if we could somehow get Bledsoe and Monroe to pair them with Randall going forward, it may look like a viable option for free agents to want to come here.

Melo is a good player, but he is the type of player you bring in when it's win now mode. The Lakers have no chance at winning this year or next. If we already had Bledsoe, Monroe, Randall, and Kobe under contract and we could fit him in money wise, that would be ideal. But as of right now, Melo would take up all the cap space and we'd have to sign vet minimum guys to fill out the next 6 roster spots. That team probably wouldn't make the playoffs.

Htownballa1622
07-01-2014, 01:41 PM
Wade seriously doesn't deserve more than 10 million annually.

Anything more then that is going to hurt the chances of the heat attracting others.

DODGERS&LAKERS
07-01-2014, 01:43 PM
Melo is a ball stopper. So is Kome.

You know LeBron holds the ball longer than Kobe on average right? Isn't it the definition of a ball stopper when a player holds the ball in his hands for a large portion of the shot clock?

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 02:00 PM
You know LeBron holds the ball longer than Kobe on average right? Isn't it the definition of a ball stopper when a player holds the ball in his hands for a large portion of the shot clock?

The difference is that Lebron looks to pass more often. Kome and Melo look to shoot and they force up chuckers a lot. They run iso too much. That's what the ball stopper does. Lebron doesn't hold the ball just to shoot 30 times a game.

scissors
07-01-2014, 02:03 PM
You know LeBron holds the ball longer than Kobe on average right? Isn't it the definition of a ball stopper when a player holds the ball in his hands for a large portion of the shot clock?

As a high school coach, I consider a ball stopper somebody who stops the flow of the offense. Once the flow is stopped it doesn't matter how long he holds the ball or dribbles in circles. The question is - which player stops offensive flow at a higher rate? I don't know the answer between the two, but it is not about who has the ball in their hands the longest.

Aust
07-01-2014, 02:04 PM
I don't mind the players being young because we don't have a chance at a championship. I am just looking for players that will come here that will make it better for free agents in the future to want to play with. So many of today's NBA players do not care about teams history or getting the most money. They want to play on teams with talent that can give them a chance to win. We have no assets on the current roster that make it enticing for any player to want to play here. I think if we could somehow get Bledsoe and Monroe to pair them with Randall going forward, it may look like a viable option for free agents to want to come here.

Melo is a good player, but he is the type of player you bring in when it's win now mode. The Lakers have no chance at winning this year or next. If we already had Bledsoe, Monroe, Randall, and Kobe under contract and we could fit him in money wise, that would be ideal. But as of right now, Melo would take up all the cap space and we'd have to sign vet minimum guys to fill out the next 6 roster spots. That team probably wouldn't make the playoffs.

Agreed with everything. Great minds think alike.

beasted86
07-01-2014, 02:20 PM
Misleading title, can a mod change it?

Seems like this is the free agency discussion/free agency speculation, instead of the free agency news thread.

WITZ
07-01-2014, 02:32 PM
Guess we can cross off another potential free agent for the heat.


Chris Broussard ✔ @Chris_Broussard
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Hearing that Luol Deng will not take significantly less than his market value to join Heat
11:20 AM - 1 Jul 2014

kdspurman
07-01-2014, 02:46 PM
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DR_1
07-01-2014, 03:09 PM
Guess we can cross off another potential free agent for the heat.


Chris Broussard [emoji818] @Chris_Broussard
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Hearing that Luol Deng will not take significantly less than his market value to join Heat
11:20 AM - 1 Jul 2014

I don't think we should be quoting Broussard here

WITZ
07-01-2014, 03:12 PM
I don't think we should be quoting Broussard here

But hes got multiple sources :laugh2:

shep33
07-01-2014, 03:51 PM
Kyle Lowry completed his meeting with Toronto GM Masai Ujiri and coach Dwane Casey, and mulling Raptors offer, league source tells Yahoo.


Woj

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/484060367765512192

WITZ
07-01-2014, 04:54 PM
Holy hell Jodie Meeks got paid EDIT: Pistons come through with another signing.


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Jodie Meeks has agreed to a three-year, $19 million-plus contract with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
1:50 PM - 1 Jul 2014


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Free agent Cartier Martin has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Detroit Pistons, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
1:52 PM - 1 Jul 2014

Deception
07-01-2014, 04:58 PM
Well, that sucks... Hopefully he pans out for us

bucketss
07-01-2014, 05:16 PM
lol hope it doesn't backfire on the pistons...... again

Crackadalic
07-01-2014, 05:28 PM
Jody Genessy @DJJazzyJody 3 minutes ago
Add Cleveland to the list of potential Gordon Hayward suitors. @Marc Stein says "Cavs weighing wisdom of big offer sheet to Hayward."



http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36Fr218e7

Jarvo
07-01-2014, 06:03 PM
484041639993032704

Felt like he was too damn hype on the warriors bench when he was there but I didnt even watch him this year on The Lakers

Crackadalic
07-01-2014, 07:18 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA about 1 hour ago
The Chicago Bulls have reached out to Ramon Sessions' camp and expressed serious interest, per source. The Bulls are looking at reserve PGs.

shep33
07-01-2014, 07:32 PM
What a terrible first day of free agency so far

Aust
07-01-2014, 07:52 PM
What a terrible first day of free agency so far

When the biggest news is Jodie Meeks you know it's been disappointing lol

shep33
07-01-2014, 08:02 PM
When the biggest news is Jodie Meeks you know it's been disappointing lol

Haha pretty much. Miami needs to hurry up with signing the Big 3. Gortat looks like he's already off the market, and Lowry is meeting with Houston tomorrow.

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:23 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA
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Marcin Gortat has agreed to a five year, $60 million contract extension with Washington, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Officially done

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:23 PM
As a Miami fan, ****

Here's to hopefully luring Anderson Varejao!

Melo15
07-01-2014, 08:24 PM
As a Miami fan, ****

Here's to hopefully luring Anderson Varejao!

You do know Varejao's under contract, right?

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:31 PM
You do know Varejao's under contract, right?

Sorry I meant Hawes lol

Melo15
07-01-2014, 08:36 PM
You do know Varejao's under contract, right?

Sorry I meant Hawes lol

All good you just had me confused for a second there :laugh2:

Deception
07-01-2014, 08:37 PM
Hawes will go to the Clippers most likely, it's where he's expressed interest in for awhile now

NYJ - NYY
07-01-2014, 08:38 PM
Great signing for warrior!!

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:46 PM
At 7'1 and 250, a 40% shooter from 3 pt range, and a 13/8 player, Spencer Hawes wouldn't be as ideal as Gortat, but a solid fit nonetheless, and he's only 26

Praying Miami gets him

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:48 PM
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Free agent Pau Gasol had a phone conversation with Miami president Pat Riley today, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:48 PM
Shawn Livingston to Warriors for 3 years/16 mill

nysportsfan23
07-01-2014, 08:48 PM
Heat could have problems. If gortat and Lowry drop off board, options get crappier. Deng, Monroe, Stephenson, Gasol, Ariza, Carter, Humphries. Can't really sign and trade much, have very few assets other than big three. Do they have any exceptions? May be time for lebron to leave.

Jarvo
07-01-2014, 08:55 PM
Heat could have problems. If gortat and Lowry drop off board, options get crappier. Deng, Monroe, Stephenson,

If I was The Heat I would want Monroe more than anyone.

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 08:55 PM
Heat could have problems. If gortat and Lowry drop off board, options get crappier. Deng, Monroe, Stephenson,

I would take Gasol on the HEAT in a second.

Ideally we could get Gasol, Jameer Nelson, and some defensive wings

mavwar53
07-01-2014, 09:01 PM
Great signing for warrior!!

Couldn't agree more considering the warriors were the worst offense without curry on the floor, way too much talent for that to be possible.

nysportsfan23
07-01-2014, 09:01 PM
Big three and melo resulting in dull as hell fa day one. So boring.

nysportsfan23
07-01-2014, 09:02 PM
Now that I said that, Livingston, interesting.

NBA_Starter
07-01-2014, 09:03 PM
Now that I said that, Livingston, interesting.

Very interesting

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2014, 09:05 PM
Sources say the New Orleans Pelicans are making most of their roster available in trade talks, including Eric Gordon, Tyreke Evans, etc.


The Denver Nuggets have considered trading JaVale McGee and/or Wilson Chandler, according to league sources.

-Alex Kennedy

Monta is beast
07-01-2014, 09:07 PM
If Livingstons contract is even every year, the Warriors still have $5.6 mill in cap room

kblo247
07-01-2014, 09:12 PM
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Free agent Pau Gasol had a phone conversation with Miami president Pat Riley today, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

Is not shocking , Gortat is gone, and Pat stole Shaq who felt disrespected

In fact it really isn't shocking since they had Odom and later Fisher in their laps before Kobe/Phil stepped in and forced buss to pay for them. Pau would go there, get paid well with no state tax, start, and play with the big 3 which was the actual pitch they gave Fish and Lamar too

Good for Pau if he goes, just means we have the common sense to throw Paus money at Lowry or Stephenson hopefully if Melo takes the max.

Besides no self respecting G like Lowry wants to be a standstill shooter who doesn't get to dribble

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 09:23 PM
Is not shocking , Gortat is gone, and Pat stole Shaq who felt disrespected

In fact it really isn't shocking since they had Odom and later Fisher in their laps before Kobe/Phil stepped in and forced buss to pay for them. Pau would go there, get paid well with no state tax, start, and play with the big 3 which was the actual pitch they gave Fish and Lamar too

Good for Pau if he goes, just means we have the common sense to throw Paus money at Lowry or Stephenson hopefully if Melo takes the max.

Besides no self respecting G like Lowry wants to be a standstill shooter who doesn't get to dribble

Pau would be an amazing fit too, giving Miami a legit 7 footer, and a quality rebounder as well. He is a skilled and one of the best fundamentally sound post players in the NBA, an amazing passer, and has a great mid-range jumper and is the type of player who ages very well in the NBA. My concerns are with Pau in Miami, is that our team becomes ancient.

Pau 34
Wade 32
Bosh 30
Lebron 29 turning 30 later this year
PG- ???

Bench:

Ray Allen-38
Chris Anderson- 37
Haslem- 34

Miami desperately needs an infusion of youth and athleticism.

Ideally we can snag Collison, Pau and some quality youth on our bench.

shep33
07-01-2014, 09:27 PM
Pau with Miami would be interesting. Offensively it works, but defensively I think he's a huge drop off from Birdman.

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 09:30 PM
Pau with Miami would be interesting. Offensively it works, but defensively I think he's a huge drop off from Birdman.

He's one of the most skilled and best post players in the NBA, he can be given the ball down low in the paint and go to work, but yeah, him and Bosh as our defensive anchors scares me a little bit as both are softies.

That being said, a deal for Pau, Collison and some youth would make me extremely happy, but our starting line up becomes ancient.

Dade County
07-01-2014, 09:32 PM
Chris Sheridan @sheridanhoops · 2m
Gortat getting $60M from #Wizards. Livingston getting $16M from #Warriors. Agent for Bosh, Wade denies deals done: http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/07/01/sheridans-top-25-free-agents-july-1-edition/ … …





Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 1 minute ago
Source who's at dinner with Carmelo Anthony, Joakim Noah, Derrick Rose, Tom Thibodeau and others said that Bulls' pitch is "going great."
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36Gpqwdo1

...

NBA_Starter
07-01-2014, 09:32 PM
I expect Pau to wait on other chips to fall before making a decision.

rockets-fan
07-01-2014, 09:42 PM
Warriors with a solid solid solid signing! I love that team, I'd root for them if goose and tredigs didn't hate on the rockets so much haha

Warriors don't need one of the big FAs, one or two more solid signings and the warriors bolt up to 3rd in the west IMO

beasted86
07-01-2014, 09:57 PM
Hawes will go to the Clippers most likely, it's where he's expressed interest in for awhile now

For $3.2M or sign and trade?

beasted86
07-01-2014, 10:02 PM
If Livingstons contract is even every year, the Warriors still have $5.6 mill in cap room
Who told you the Warriors have cap space? I'm pretty certain they don't unless they made some trade recently I don't know about.

They used the full MLE to sign him.

NBA_Starter
07-01-2014, 10:22 PM
...

It may seem like its going Great but you never know with Melo, he plays it close to the vest.

bulls_world23
07-01-2014, 10:28 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Derrick Rose went through a workout at the Buls' practice facility for Carmelo Anthony, to show that he's healthy: http://www.basketballinsiders.com/ch...rmelo-

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2014, 10:31 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Derrick Rose went through a workout at the Buls' practice facility for Carmelo Anthony, to show that he's healthy: http://www.basketballinsiders.com/ch...rmelo-

lol

Hope he will ask Kobe the same and someone records the Kobe reaction.

bulls_world23
07-01-2014, 10:32 PM
It's either Chicago or Ny

championships
07-01-2014, 10:33 PM
It will be interesting to see what brons plans are. He can't win without Wade. Wades game is gone now, He is going to have to team up with 2 more superstars to get his third ring.

NBA_Starter
07-01-2014, 10:42 PM
lol

Hope he will ask Kobe the same and someone records the Kobe reaction.

I got to see that too!:)

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 10:49 PM
LOL if Melo asked Kobe to do a workout for him, Kobe would slap him and be like "" Boy who the **** you talkin to like that", challenge Melo to a game on 1 v 1 and beat him LOL

kobe4thewinbang
07-01-2014, 10:53 PM
LOL if Melo asked Kobe to do a workout for him, Kobe would slap him and be like "" Boy who the **** you talkin to like that", challenge Melo to a game on 1 v 1 and beat him LOLDamn straight! Now, if D-Rose went 1-on-1 with Melo, he'd probably tear something again.

...

Too soon?

NBA_Starter
07-01-2014, 10:59 PM
It is about time for some big news to break.

Crackadalic
07-01-2014, 11:10 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 1 minute ago
In talking to multiple execs around NBA, O.J. Mayo, Tayshaun Prince, Jeremy Lin and Austin Rivers are being shopped: basketballinsiders.com/mayo-prince-li…


http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36HF40AJW

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 11:15 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 1 minute ago
In talking to multiple execs around NBA, O.J. Mayo, Tayshaun Prince, Jeremy Lin and Austin Rivers are being shopped: basketballinsiders.com/mayo-prince-li…


http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36HF40AJW

Prince and Lin aren't surprises. I guess Mayo is not a Kidd player? Rivers, never understood the hype around him and he will be a role player at best. What does he even bring that contenders may like? Could he go play for daddy in LAC in a trade for Reggie Bullock?

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 11:16 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 1 minute ago
In talking to multiple execs around NBA, O.J. Mayo, Tayshaun Prince, Jeremy Lin and Austin Rivers are being shopped: basketballinsiders.com/mayo-prince-li…


http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36HF40AJW

So teams are trading their trash LOL

But hell, if I am Miami,

I call up the Bucks, and offer them Cole/future picks for Mayo. Mayo is making 8 mill, and Miami has a 2+ mill trade exception and Cole makes 2 mill, so Mayo can be had for a 4 mill cap hit for Miami.

Mayo at age 26 gives Miami youth, and he can lead the bench when Wade plays and in games where Wade is resting/rehabilitating, give Miami quality play from the SG position.

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 11:25 PM
So teams are trading their trash LOL

But hell, if I am Miami,

I call up the Bucks, and offer them Cole/future picks for Mayo. Mayo is making 8 mill, and Miami has a 2+ mill trade exception and Cole makes 2 mill, so Mayo can be had for a 4 mill cap hit for Miami.

Mayo at age 26 gives Miami youth, and he can lead the bench when Wade plays and in games where Wade is resting/rehabilitating, give Miami quality play from the SG position.

Mayo is okay, but is that the guy the Big Three consider as help? Riley looked at him in 2008 as an alternative to Beasley. But I am worried about year three w/ that $8 mill cap hit.

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 11:34 PM
Mayo is okay, but is that the guy the Big Three consider as help? Riley looked at him in 2008 as an alternative to Beasley. But I am worried about year three w/ that $8 mill cap hit.

Mayo is not the answer to all of Miami's problems, but if we can get Mayo at a cap hit of 4 mill using our TPE and shedding Norris Cole, then we have about 7-8 mill left in cap space from the reported 12 we had to sign a Gasol or Hawes type big and some depth. With Jodie Meeks getting 6-7 million, Mayo at 8 is not bad at all.

But that being said, a Mayo and Gasol/Hawes as our main additions and a couple depth players in the off-season for Miami would be a very good off-season.

Mayo has had a very odd NBA career, but I think playing with LeBron and in Miami where he has no pressure would help him tremendously. At age 26, he hasn't entered his prime and in a couple years when Wade is close to being officially done, Mayo will be hitting his prime. He is a high quality 3 pt shooter, and I think a quality SG for Miami is a must as Wade misses tons of regular season games to rest, and Mayo can step right in and start.

Finally, Mayo is a player who can create his own shot as well and we need that badly as the only player who showed the ability to create his own offense in the finals was LeBron. Mayo also like I said has had an odd career, and thus coming off the bench would be nothing new for him and I do not think he would complain about that either.

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 11:41 PM
Mayo is not the answer to all of Miami's problems, but if we can get Mayo at a cap hit of 4 mill using our TPE and shedding Norris Cole, then we have about 7-8 mill left in cap space from the reported 12 we had to sign a Gasol or Hawes type big and some depth. With Jodie Meeks getting 6-7 million, Mayo at 8 is not bad at all.

But that being said, a Mayo and Gasol/Hawes as our main additions and a couple depth players in the off-season for Miami would be a very good off-season.

Mayo has had a very odd NBA career, but I think playing with LeBron and in Miami where he has no pressure would help him tremendously. At age 26, he hasn't entered his prime and in a couple years when Wade is close to being officially done, Mayo will be hitting his prime. He is a high quality 3 pt shooter, and I think a quality SG for Miami is a must as Wade misses tons of regular season games to rest, and Mayo can step right in and start.

Finally, Mayo is a player who can create his own shot as well and we need that badly as the only player who showed the ability to create his own offense in the finals was LeBron. Mayo also like I said has had an odd career, and thus coming off the bench would be nothing new for him and I do not think he would complain about that either.

Solid take, but the 3rd year scares me, which you didn't really address. The Meeks to Detroit thing might be done, but these guys need to give Riley a call to allow him his pitch. I would do it out of respect.

Nikeman
07-01-2014, 11:43 PM
Solid take, but the 3rd year scares me, which you didn't really address. The Meeks to Detroit thing might be done, but these guys need to give Riley a call to allow him his pitch. I would do it out of respect.

Mayo has a cap hit of 8 million every year, he is on a 3 year 24 million contract. So if we were to take him, we take the hit this year and next of 8 mill by adding his contract. The only thing I don't like is the fact that Riley is recruiting alone.

In the Bulls example, Rose/Noah were all recruiting Melo.

The sooner our Big 3 re-sign, the better as I believe having them helping Riley recruit would help out significantly.

Wade n Fade
07-01-2014, 11:53 PM
Mayo has a cap hit of 8 million every year, he is on a 3 year 24 million contract. So if we were to take him, we take the hit this year and next of 8 mill by adding his contract. The only thing I don't like is the fact that Riley is recruiting alone.

In the Bulls example, Rose/Noah were all recruiting Melo.

The sooner our Big 3 re-sign, the better as I believe having them helping Riley recruit would help out significantly.

I am sure there is a Riley contingent, but he's not on the road. It's a huge difference between a phone call vs being in a room and just putting your hand down with all your rings. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised there is Heat recruiting not being reported because the Big Three have always been closed from the media. It takes a leak or a heckle to get stuff out there.

xxplayerxx23
07-02-2014, 01:02 AM
LOL if Melo asked Kobe to do a workout for him, Kobe would slap him and be like "" Boy who the **** you talkin to like that", challenge Melo to a game on 1 v 1 and beat him LOL

Kobe would get smoked at this point

bucketss
07-02-2014, 02:02 AM
lol isn't kobe and kyrie suppose to have a one on one game for like 50k.

Cracka2HI!
07-02-2014, 03:54 AM
I doubt Wade and Bosh take as much of a discount as we're hearing. I don't think guys like Lowry or even Gasol are that realistic to Miami. They should have the full MLE and BAE tho and that should get them 2 solid players. I think Avery Bradley would be a good fit. I don't really see a good Center option for them in FA. Hill, Blatche, Kaman, Brand, McRoberts, Davis and maybe even Boozer could all be in the mix for them as a big man. None is an ideal fit but all are upgrades. I would assume they also get Birdman and Haslem back.

ATX
07-02-2014, 10:06 AM
https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes

Avery Bradly re-signs with the Celtics for 4 years/32M.

Htownballa1622
07-02-2014, 10:10 AM
https://twitter.com/BaxterHolmes

Avery Bradly re-signs with the Celtics for 4 years/32M.

Holy cow! Dude got paid.

Bye bye Rondo.

ATX
07-02-2014, 10:14 AM
Holy cow! Dude got paid.

Bye bye Rondo.

Haha, ya he got paid, but after seeing what Meeks got...

Wade n Fade
07-02-2014, 10:30 AM
Owner logic: Complain during CBA about players being overpaid w/ bad contracts. Today's logic: owners give Avery Bradley 4 yrs $32 mill. Nice, we got a hypocritic and ironic situation.

Zackthesack
07-02-2014, 11:03 AM
find it hard to believe the Heat will be able to get players on the cheap to help them with the contracts that have been given to the likes of Meeks and Bradley...

Htownballa1622
07-02-2014, 11:20 AM
Owners/gms are definitely going to regret some of these deals for sure.

Jarvo
07-02-2014, 11:57 AM
Prince and Lin aren't surprises. I guess Mayo is not a Kidd player? Rivers, never understood the hype around him and he will be a role player at best. What does he even bring that contenders may like? Could he go play for daddy in LAC in a trade for Reggie Bullock?

He left college way too soon

DR_1
07-02-2014, 12:17 PM
Solid take, but the 3rd year scares me, which you didn't really address. The Meeks to Detroit thing might be done, but these guys need to give Riley a call to allow him his pitch. I would do it out of respect.

Come on, no free agent is required to call Riley "out of respect." What does that even mean?

dannyy08
07-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Owner logic: Complain during CBA about players being overpaid w/ bad contracts. Today's logic: owners give Avery Bradley 4 yrs $32 mill. Nice, we got a hypocritic and ironic situation.

Weren't there reports that only a few owners thought that way. For example, Donald Sterling. Should be interesting when they have their next collective bargaining agreement.

True Sports Fan
07-02-2014, 01:13 PM
Magic sign BG 2 years 9. Typical Magic move it seems.

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:17 PM
Magic sign BG 2 years 9. Typical Magic move it seems.

If Ben Gordon, MOTHER****** BEN GORDON can get 4.5 million, Miami can forget adding anyone worthwhile

MrfadeawayJB
07-02-2014, 01:18 PM
People overpaid bad so far

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:22 PM
People overpaid bad so far

Screws over the contending teams hoping to add talent cheap, so many teams with significant space who will overpay

DR_1
07-02-2014, 01:22 PM
I can't believe BG got that much.

Crackadalic
07-02-2014, 01:24 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA about 16 minutes ago
Free agent guard Ben Gordon has agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Yahoo Sports.



http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36KhnwE9Z


Ben Golliver @BenGolliver about 5 minutes ago
In Ben Gordon's defense, his -0.3 Win Shares last year were better than both Kobe Bryant (-0.4) and Anthony Bennett (-0.4).



:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

Zackthesack
07-02-2014, 01:27 PM
i guess that's how you combat the Heat and the big threes pay cuts, make no cut big enough

mjt20mik
07-02-2014, 01:30 PM
Magic sign BG 2 years 9. Typical Magic move it seems.

I just don't understand why.. 2 year isn't guaranteed, but 4.5 for one year is just too much.

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:30 PM
i guess that's how you combat the Heat and the big threes pay cuts, make no cut big enough

I mean its not just Miami, but many other contending teams hoping to add cheap talent poised to make runs.

OKC/Clippers are a couple teams off my mind that want to add cheap talent just like us

mjt20mik
07-02-2014, 01:32 PM
I mean its not just Miami, but many other contending teams hoping to add cheap talent poised to make runs.

OKC/Clippers are a couple teams off my mind that want to add cheap talent just like us

You might just be able to get cheap vets. That's about it. I'm not sure about actually getting good talent.

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:42 PM
You might just be able to get cheap vets. That's about it. I'm not sure about actually getting good talent.

Well, with out reported 12 million in cap space, we may be able to get 1 high quality player. That being said, the HEAT fans, myself included who had dreams of getting 3-4 quality players to come in and upgrade our roster significantly.

In my crazy ideal HEAT fan world, we can sign Darren Collison for 3.5-4 million on a 1 year deal, and give him the promise of significant minutes and a starting role which is something the LAC can't offer as he will always be under Chris Paul. He signed a 2 year/3.8 million deal last season, idk how LAC got him for that. Hopefully we can get him for 3.5-4 million, get his bird rights and then offer him a better deal next season going over the cap. At 26, he's young, athletic and quick, and he's a quality shooter and a good fit.

Secondly, I hope we can get Pau Gasol for 6-7 million a year, with the promise of putting him on a contender for the last of his remaining years. He's made tons of money throughout his career, he has maybe 3 good years left. He can make the extra couple million dollars per year, or he can come to Miami and play his last years on a contender with the chance to win each and every season.

Finally, trade for OJ Mayo. With our cap filled out, we can make trades even if we are over the cap. We have a 2.2 mill trade exception, and can get rid of Norris Cole in order to absorb his 8 million dollar cap hit.

In OJ Mayo we get a very high quality 6th man, and a young 26 year old who can step in and start in games in which Wade needs to sit out and rest. Very good shooter, and would thrive playing with LeBron. In 2-3 years he could take over for Wade.

Collison/Gasol/Mayo along with some depth (minimum signings) is my ideal off-season

MrfadeawayJB
07-02-2014, 01:42 PM
People overpaid bad so far

Screws over the contending teams hoping to add talent cheap, so many teams with significant space who will overpay


Once the main dominoes fall, big three, melo, etc then the prices will drive down and decisions will be made. The teams making these deals have no shot at a star player anyways so they throw money at random guys

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:45 PM
Once the main dominoes fall, big three, melo, etc then the prices will drive down and decisions will be made. The teams making these deals have no shot at a star player anyways so they throw money at random guys

Or, teams like the Mavs/Rockets/Bulls etc etc, who missed out on Melo and had cleared cap space for him, become desperate and sign players like Parsons, Lance Stephenson etc etc to big deals

goingfor28
07-02-2014, 01:45 PM
Solid take, but the 3rd year scares me, which you didn't really address. The Meeks to Detroit thing might be done, but these guys need to give Riley a call to allow him his pitch. I would do it out of respect.
Why the hell should they have to csll him out of respect? Maybe they don't want to go to miami

goingfor28
07-02-2014, 01:49 PM
I'd like to see Lance come to charlotte

MrfadeawayJB
07-02-2014, 01:49 PM
Once the main dominoes fall, big three, melo, etc then the prices will drive down and decisions will be made. The teams making these deals have no shot at a star player anyways so they throw money at random guys

Or, teams like the Mavs/Rockets/Bulls etc etc, who missed out on Melo and had cleared cap space for him, become desperate and sign players like Parsons, Lance Stephenson etc etc to big deals

Possibly but the lockout threat is real with some of these deals. Like if Hayward gets the max, parsons HAS to get the max, he's much better

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:51 PM
I'd like to see Lance come to charlotte

I personally think Dallas, if they strike out with Melo which they most likely will, should make a strong, strong push for Lance Stephenson.

PG/Monta Ellis/Lance Stephenson/Dirk/Chandler is a very, very thorough and complete starting line-up. Defensive anchor in Tyson, scorers in Dirk/Monta and play-makers in Monta/Stephenson as well.

Get a quality PG and depth and this team could make noise provided they stay healthy.

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 01:55 PM
Possibly but the lockout threat is real with some of these deals. Like if Hayward gets the max, parsons HAS to get the max, he's much better

This whole max contract is a joke. Its given to anyone and everyone these days. Eric Bledsoe, Gordon Hayword, etc etc are all very good NBA level players, but I think max deals should be reserved for the likes of the top 5-7 stars in the NBA.

Gordon Hayword shot 41% from the field last season, he took 14 shots a game to score 16 points. To put this in perspective, LeBron took 17 shots a game to score 27 ppg.

Don't get me wrong, he's a very solid NBA player, but max contracts are being handed out like candy during halloween these days.

dannyy08
07-02-2014, 02:24 PM
This whole max contract is a joke.

Don't get me wrong, he's a very solid NBA player, but max contracts are being handed out like candy during halloween these days.

Initially I agreed with you. But I am starting to think that max contracts should be given to people who fit in the Big 2 or Big 3 category.

The fact that a player can be maxed out is horrible. Those top 5-7 players are worth more than a max contract. That's not the fault of the players who fit in the 8-15 ranking.

rockets-fan
07-02-2014, 02:30 PM
Small market teams like to overpay....that's just how it is.

Some of them have a roster cap to fill tho so it's understandable if it's a one year thing

Deception
07-02-2014, 02:49 PM
Small market teams like to overpay....that's just how it is.

Some of them have a roster cap to fill tho so it's understandable if it's a one year thing

Small market teams HAVE to overpay, it's not like they want to but it's what they must do to attract some FA

tredigs
07-02-2014, 02:52 PM
I'm watching the Mariners/Astros game and Carmelo's limo is rolling up to the game right now. So, he's checking out Houston right now...

shep33
07-02-2014, 03:03 PM
I'm watching the Mariners/Astros game and Carmelo's limo is rolling up to the game right now. So, he's checking out Houston right now...

Feel bad for him. The Astros are terrible

goingfor28
07-02-2014, 03:07 PM
Feel bad for him. The Astros are terrible
They're nowhere near as bad as they were the past few years

Swift Game
07-02-2014, 03:20 PM
This whole max contract is a joke. Its given to anyone and everyone these days. Eric Bledsoe, Gordon Hayword, etc etc are all very good NBA level players, but I think max deals should be reserved for the likes of the top 5-7 stars in the NBA.

Gordon Hayword shot 41% from the field last season, he took 14 shots a game to score 16 points. To put this in perspective, LeBron took 17 shots a game to score 27 ppg.

Don't get me wrong, he's a very solid NBA player, but max contracts are being handed out like candy during halloween these days.

You sound really salty bro. Every team in the NBA will somewhat overpay for a player they covet as their franchise player. Right now it's reported that there are several teams that have a lot of spending power and there is a lack of free agents. Demand much higher than supply right now.

Miami cannot continue to rely on getting cheap quality players every season. So you are upset that Lebron can't get more help?
Pau, collision, Stephenson and Lowry are not going to Miami by the way. Miami still needs a rebounder and shot blocker and they have not taken care of that yet. Gortat was a pipe dream for them as well.

Lebron better think about joining the Bulls or to assure a chip join the spurs.

PacersForLife
07-02-2014, 03:22 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Free agent CJ Miles has agreed to 4-year, $18M deal with Pacers, league source tells Yahoo. @CandaceDBuckner 1st reported an agreement.

Swift Game
07-02-2014, 03:24 PM
CJ miles 4 years 18 million with the Pacers.
Edit
Lance Stephenson likely gone.

PacersForLife
07-02-2014, 03:26 PM
CJ miles 4 years 28 million with the Pacers.

Lance Stephenson likely gone.

Not necessarily. I sense a trade coming of some sort, I would still be surprised if Lance is not a Pacer next year.

rockets-fan
07-02-2014, 03:28 PM
Feel bad for him. The Astros are terrible

Haha true but they have been exciting to watch these last two months!

He should go watch the texans practice, Watt and Cushing will bully him into signing with Houston lmfao

Swift Game
07-02-2014, 03:29 PM
Sure I think there is a chance Lance returns but he is looking for a bigger pay day..10-13 million range. Not sure indiana wants to pay him tht.

Zackthesack
07-02-2014, 03:31 PM
Well, with out reported 12 million in cap space, we may be able to get 1 high quality player. That being said, the HEAT fans, myself included who had dreams of getting 3-4 quality players to come in and upgrade our roster significantly.

In my crazy ideal HEAT fan world, we can sign Darren Collison for 3.5-4 million on a 1 year deal, and give him the promise of significant minutes and a starting role which is something the LAC can't offer as he will always be under Chris Paul. He signed a 2 year/3.8 million deal last season, idk how LAC got him for that. Hopefully we can get him for 3.5-4 million, get his bird rights and then offer him a better deal next season going over the cap. At 26, he's young, athletic and quick, and he's a quality shooter and a good fit.

Secondly, I hope we can get Pau Gasol for 6-7 million a year, with the promise of putting him on a contender for the last of his remaining years. He's made tons of money throughout his career, he has maybe 3 good years left. He can make the extra couple million dollars per year, or he can come to Miami and play his last years on a contender with the chance to win each and every season.

Finally, trade for OJ Mayo. With our cap filled out, we can make trades even if we are over the cap. We have a 2.2 mill trade exception, and can get rid of Norris Cole in order to absorb his 8 million dollar cap hit.

In OJ Mayo we get a very high quality 6th man, and a young 26 year old who can step in and start in games in which Wade needs to sit out and rest. Very good shooter, and would thrive playing with LeBron. In 2-3 years he could take over for Wade.

Collison/Gasol/Mayo along with some depth (minimum signings) is my ideal off-season

You Heat fans are ****ing delusional, you all expect free agents to bend over and get ****ed just to have the chance to play with the three divas and be ran by the almighty Riley.

There is no way in hell that Gasol is going to take a 4-6 million dollar pay cut and there is no way Collison is coming cheaper that 5 mil.

Pull your head out of your ***

Nikeman
07-02-2014, 03:33 PM
You Heat fans are ****ing delusional, you all expect free agents to bend over and get ****ed just to have the chance to play with the three divas and be ran by the almighty Riley.

There is no way in hell that Gasol is going to take a 4-6 million dollar pay cut and there is no way Collison is coming cheaper that 5 mil.

Pull your head out of your ***

Are you dumb?

If you read the post it says in my crazy, ideal, dream off-season

No **** I know this won't happen

PacersForLife
07-02-2014, 03:34 PM
Sure I think there is a chance Lance returns but he is looking for a bigger pay day..10-13 million range. Not sure indiana wants to pay him tht.

If it comes to that then I agree, they won't overpay for him. Apparently he's not getting too much interest from other teams though. I think the most they pay for him is $10M a year.

jerellh528
07-02-2014, 03:35 PM
If it comes to that then I agree, they won't overpay for him. Apparently he's not getting too much interest from other teams though. I think the most they pay for him is $10M a year.

Lakers and bulls are interested

PacersForLife
07-02-2014, 03:45 PM
Lakers and bulls are interested

I mean yeah, there have been a few teams floating around as being interested, but I don't think he's been offered anything. I also read that most people around the league think Lance is worth around $7-9M and that is what the Pacers offered him.

kobe4thewinbang
07-02-2014, 03:51 PM
lol isn't kobe and kyrie suppose to have a one on one game for like 50k.Pretty sure that was before Kobe tore his damn foot open, ha.

NBA_Starter
07-02-2014, 06:22 PM
Lakers and bulls are interested

and Hornets

shep33
07-03-2014, 02:35 AM
Haha true but they have been exciting to watch these last two months!

He should go watch the texans practice, Watt and Cushing will bully him into signing with Houston lmfao

Haha yeah. They're better than before, but still. Just one of those slumps though, they'll be back.

I love JJ Watt. Going to be fun watching Watt, Cushing and Clowney!

Redrum187
07-03-2014, 07:36 AM
Well, with out reported 12 million in cap space, we may be able to get 1 high quality player. That being said, the HEAT fans, myself included who had dreams of getting 3-4 quality players to come in and upgrade our roster significantly.

In my crazy ideal HEAT fan world, we can sign Darren Collison for 3.5-4 million on a 1 year deal, and give him the promise of significant minutes and a starting role which is something the LAC can't offer as he will always be under Chris Paul. He signed a 2 year/3.8 million deal last season, idk how LAC got him for that. Hopefully we can get him for 3.5-4 million, get his bird rights and then offer him a better deal next season going over the cap. At 26, he's young, athletic and quick, and he's a quality shooter and a good fit.

Secondly, I hope we can get Pau Gasol for 6-7 million a year, with the promise of putting him on a contender for the last of his remaining years. He's made tons of money throughout his career, he has maybe 3 good years left. He can make the extra couple million dollars per year, or he can come to Miami and play his last years on a contender with the chance to win each and every season.

Finally, trade for OJ Mayo. With our cap filled out, we can make trades even if we are over the cap. We have a 2.2 mill trade exception, and can get rid of Norris Cole in order to absorb his 8 million dollar cap hit.

In OJ Mayo we get a very high quality 6th man, and a young 26 year old who can step in and start in games in which Wade needs to sit out and rest. Very good shooter, and would thrive playing with LeBron. In 2-3 years he could take over for Wade.

Collison/Gasol/Mayo along with some depth (minimum signings) is my ideal off-season

If we are speaking strictly ideal and I was a Miami Heat fan, I'd trade Norris Cole + TPE for Anthony Davis, resign LeBron James/Dwyane Wade/Chris Bosh for league minimum, trade for Dwight Howard (giving Houston a huge TPE), trade Justin Hamilton and TPE for Kevin Durant (giving OKC a huge TPE), trade for Joakim Noah (giving the Bulls a huge TPE), trade for Stephen Curry (giving GS a huge TPE), get Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, Lance Stevenson, Chandler Parsons, Eric Bledsoe, Pau Gasol and Kyle Lowry for league minimum/vet minimum.

PG: Stephen Curry/Eric Bledsoe/ Kyle Lowry
SG: Kevin Durant/Dwyane Wade/Lance Stevenson
SF: LeBron James/Carmelo Anthony/Chandler Parsons
PF: Anthony Davis/Dirk Nowitzki/Chris Bosh
C : Dwight Howard/Joakim Noah/Pau Gasol

With Dwight Howard (21.4), Kevin Durant (20) Joakim Noah (12.2), and Stephen Curry (10.6) taking roughly 64.2 million (they can go over salary cap by a small percentage if they do it via trades), the rest will come with the league/vet minimum.

Why wouldn't this be your "ideal" off-season if we are going to ignore all reason, logic, and probability?

kdspurman
07-03-2014, 11:03 AM
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PacersForLife
07-03-2014, 02:31 PM
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So it seems like it would be some kind of three team deal perhaps sending Dragic to IND, Rondo to PHX, and Hibbert to BOS. This has not been reported, but apparently Boston wants a rim protector and new guy in Pheonix has ties with Rondo.

hugepatsfan
07-03-2014, 02:40 PM
I read that and thought that the Rondo talks came on after IND decided they couldn't land Dragic. IND could offer Hill and Mahinmi to make salaries match for Rondo but I don't think BOS wants the 3 years left on Hill's deal. So…

BOS gets: Mahinmi, pick(s), player(s) from 3rd team
IND gets: Rondo
3rd team gets: Hill

The players BOS got from the 3rd team would either have shorter contracts than Hill or more long term value to our team (Hill isn't bad but I don't like the fit with Smart and Bradley already signed one term).

I like that Hibbert idea better though. I'd LOVE to get him in BOS. His defense inside would really aid the development of Kelly Olynyk and Jared Sullinger. Sully is kind of know around the NBA but I think Olynyk is someone who people should know more about. I think he's a 17/7/3 player in the making - maybe even 4 or 5 assists even.

goingfor28
07-03-2014, 02:48 PM
If we are speaking strictly ideal and I was a Miami Heat fan, I'd trade Norris Cole + TPE for Anthony Davis, resign LeBron James/Dwyane Wade/Chris Bosh for league minimum, trade for Dwight Howard (giving Houston a huge TPE), trade Justin Hamilton and TPE for Kevin Durant (giving OKC a huge TPE), trade for Joakim Noah (giving the Bulls a huge TPE), trade for Stephen Curry (giving GS a huge TPE), get Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, Lance Stevenson, Chandler Parsons, Eric Bledsoe, Pau Gasol and Kyle Lowry for league minimum/vet minimum.

PG: Stephen Curry/Eric Bledsoe/ Kyle Lowry
SG: Kevin Durant/Dwyane Wade/Lance Stevenson
SF: LeBron James/Carmelo Anthony/Chandler Parsons
PF: Anthony Davis/Dirk Nowitzki/Chris Bosh
C : Dwight Howard/Joakim Noah/Pau Gasol

With Dwight Howard (21.4), Kevin Durant (20) Joakim Noah (12.2), and Stephen Curry (10.6) taking roughly 64.2 million (they can go over salary cap by a small percentage if they do it via trades), the rest will come with the league/vet minimum.

Why wouldn't this be your "ideal" off-season if we are going to ignore all reason, logic, and probability?
Loooool I read Cole + tpe for the brow and was like wtf?
Then I read the rest :laugh2:

PacersForLife
07-03-2014, 02:50 PM
I read that and thought that the Rondo talks came on after IND decided they couldn't land Dragic.
Maybe, but the fact that the Pacers don't have much to entice Pheonix apparently and the talks of a multi-team deal make it seem like it's between all three teams to me.

Pierzynski4Prez
07-03-2014, 03:05 PM
If we are speaking strictly ideal and I was a Miami Heat fan, I'd trade Norris Cole + TPE for Anthony Davis, resign LeBron James/Dwyane Wade/Chris Bosh for league minimum, trade for Dwight Howard (giving Houston a huge TPE), trade Justin Hamilton and TPE for Kevin Durant (giving OKC a huge TPE), trade for Joakim Noah (giving the Bulls a huge TPE), trade for Stephen Curry (giving GS a huge TPE), get Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, Lance Stevenson, Chandler Parsons, Eric Bledsoe, Pau Gasol and Kyle Lowry for league minimum/vet minimum.

PG: Stephen Curry/Eric Bledsoe/ Kyle Lowry
SG: Kevin Durant/Dwyane Wade/Lance Stevenson
SF: LeBron James/Carmelo Anthony/Chandler Parsons
PF: Anthony Davis/Dirk Nowitzki/Chris Bosh
C : Dwight Howard/Joakim Noah/Pau Gasol

With Dwight Howard (21.4), Kevin Durant (20) Joakim Noah (12.2), and Stephen Curry (10.6) taking roughly 64.2 million (they can go over salary cap by a small percentage if they do it via trades), the rest will come with the league/vet minimum.

Why wouldn't this be your "ideal" off-season if we are going to ignore all reason, logic, and probability?

:clap:

1_team_1_dream
07-03-2014, 03:32 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m
A conversation that Carmelo Anthony had been pursuing in recent days, sources tell Yahoo: With Pau Gasol, about playing together w/ Knicks.

Aust
07-03-2014, 03:36 PM
Loooool I read Cole + tpe for the brow and was like wtf?
Then I read the rest :laugh2:

Same here.

Crackadalic
07-03-2014, 03:39 PM
Michael Lee @MrMichaelLee 3 minutes ago
So much for that #wizards RT @Shams Charania Thabo Sefolosha has reached agreement on 3-year, $12 million deal with ATL, source tells ******



http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36R67g6LI

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA about 5 minutes ago
Free agent Luol Deng intrigued with Clippers sign-and-trade possibilities, sources tell Yahoo. He's expected to speak with Doc Rivers today.

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36R6Q62LT

Dade County
07-03-2014, 04:24 PM
David Locke @Lockedonsports about 6 minutes ago
If Cleveland doesn't offer Hayward where is his next best option. Atlanta down to 11 cap space, Boston no cap space, Charlotte? Phoenix?
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36RGyCMnd


Emiliano Carchia @sportando about 7 minutes ago
Luol Deng will speak with Doc Rivers today sportando.com/en/usa/nba/125…

Reply Retweet Favorite
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36RH4XU4L


Sean Highkin @highkin about 7 minutes ago
I would be about Lance Stephenson in Phoenix if the Dragic/Pacers stuff is real.
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36RHDjvgp


Emiliano Carchia @sportando about 8 minutes ago
Heat interested in Anthony Morrow sportando.com/en/usa/nba/125…
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36RHK6AF5


Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN about 8 minutes ago
Once upon a time the Lakers got everyone. Now they can't get anyone.
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36RHRddZ3 .... Lmao

Dade County
07-03-2014, 04:26 PM
Royce Young @EyeOnBasketball about 10 minutes ago
Report: Thabo Sefolosha agrees to three-year, $12 million deal with Hawks cbsprt.co/1pMfmHZ
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz36RHv4rtq

...

1_team_1_dream
07-03-2014, 04:49 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 22m
There is a school of thought in circulation that Pau Gasol is going to choose his next destination after he sees what Carmelo Anthony does

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 04:52 PM
484419341782224897

goingfor28
07-03-2014, 05:06 PM
484419341782224897
I hope this happens

xxplayerxx23
07-03-2014, 05:32 PM
484419341782224897

Ebbs :laugh2:

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 06:04 PM
I hope this happens

Same, the guy works for Dime Magazine so who knows if he really knows anything?

PacersForLife
07-03-2014, 06:18 PM
Seems like that guy's guess is as good as ours about Stephenson.

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 06:25 PM
I read that the Bulls feel that he is out of their range and that seems like it is between the Hornets and Lakers if he is leaving. Then I read a tweet where Lance said he wasn't going to the highest bidder it has to be an up and coming team and that has the Hornets written all over it. The Lakers don't even have a coach and who knows what type version of Kobe they will get. Hopefully the Hornets are at least meeting with Stephenson.

Mr. Baller
07-03-2014, 07:00 PM
484419341782224897

This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.

celtics 34
07-03-2014, 07:00 PM
That guy knows what he's talking about

Raps18-19 Champ
07-03-2014, 07:07 PM
Same, the guy works for Dime Magazine so who knows if he really knows anything?

Omg lolol

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 07:12 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


Omg lolol

Pardon me, I have never heard of him and it was posted on another forum.

1_team_1_dream
07-03-2014, 07:26 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 3h
Yahoo Sources: As Carmelo Anthony completes recruiting visits, he wants to make pitch to Pau Gasol on New York. http://yhoo.it/1qUifDT

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 07:38 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 3h
Yahoo Sources: As Carmelo Anthony completes recruiting visits, he wants to make pitch to Pau Gasol on New York. http://yhoo.it/1qUifDT

Interesting, as the belief grows that he is staying put, that would be a good add but Pau has all kinds of options out there.

goingfor28
07-03-2014, 07:42 PM
I will be disappointed if he doesn't leave NY. I want one of lebron or melo to leave, and lebron will be in miami without a doubt. So that leaves you, Melo

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 07:47 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


I will be disappointed if he doesn't leave NY. I want one of lebron or melo to leave, and lebron will be in miami without a doubt. So that leaves you, Melo

I don't know they are running to of options to surround around LeBron.

rockets-fan
07-03-2014, 08:02 PM
What would be the lineup for the Knicks if he resigns and Gasol joins? I'd think pretty solid right?

Sammy D
Gasol
Melo
Shump
?

In the east that's a playoffs team

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 08:08 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


What would be the lineup for the Knicks if he resigns and Gasol joins? I'd think pretty solid right?

Sammy D
Gasol
Melo
Shump
?

In the east that's a playoffs team

José Calderón

rockets-fan
07-03-2014, 08:17 PM
José Calderón

So

Calderon
Shump
Melo
Gasol
Sammy D

With JR and Andrea as scoring threats off the bench?

Yea that's pretty solid, not as bad as I thought NY was. Not contenders but solid playoff team for sure

GiantsSwaGG
07-03-2014, 08:18 PM
So

Calderon
Shump
Melo
Gasol
Sammy D

With JR and Andrea as scoring threats off the bench?

Yea that's pretty solid, not as bad as I thought NY was. Not contenders but solid playoff team for sure

With Brags on the team, we won't make the playoffs. He's cursed!

Nikeman
07-03-2014, 08:29 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6m
RT @Chris_Broussard: Sources: Suns owner Robert Sarver in CLE yesterday & met w/LeBron agent Rich Paul. Teaming LJ/Melo or LJ/Bosh discussed

Wow, just ditch Wade?

rockets-fan
07-03-2014, 08:33 PM
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6m
RT @Chris_Broussard: Sources: Suns owner Robert Sarver in CLE yesterday & met w/LeBron agent Rich Paul. Teaming LJ/Melo or LJ/Bosh discussed

Wow, just ditch Wade?

Lebron on the suns alone would be amazing to watch...James and Bosh?!? Good god.

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 08:37 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6m
RT @Chris_Broussard: Sources: Suns owner Robert Sarver in CLE yesterday & met w/LeBron agent Rich Paul. Teaming LJ/Melo or LJ/Bosh discussed

Wow, just ditch Wade?

He's broken down anyway.

Nikeman
07-03-2014, 08:38 PM
Lebron on the suns alone would be amazing to watch...James and Bosh?!? Good god.

LeBron, Bosh, Bledsoe, Dragic, Frye and Morris Twins, Plumlee and Gerald Green?

God damn... Can probably trade Dragic and some pieces as well to acquire some better pieces to fit around LeBron

rockets-fan
07-03-2014, 08:40 PM
LeBron, Bosh, Bledsoe, Dragic, Frye and Morris Twins, Plumlee and Gerald Green?

God damn... Can probably trade Dragic and some pieces as well to acquire some better pieces to fit around LeBron

Bledsoe
Dragic
Lebron
Bosh
Lopez

Twins,green,frye.

Maybe sign and trade Dragic or Bledsoe for Lance Stevenson?

Dragic
Lance
James
Bosh
Lopez


Top 2 in the west imo

Nikeman
07-03-2014, 08:45 PM
Bledsoe
Dragic
Lebron
Bosh
Lopez

Twins,green,frye.

Maybe sign and trade Dragic or Bledsoe for Lance Stevenson?

Dragic
Lance
James
Bosh
Lopez


Top 2 in the west imo

Which Lopez are you talking about bro

goingfor28
07-03-2014, 08:57 PM
Which Lopez are you talking about bro

Sideshow Bob

goingfor28
07-03-2014, 08:58 PM
Ramona Shelburne ✔ @ramonashelburne
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Lakers made it clear to Melo today they'd offer the maximum, 4-yr, $97mil contract they can, if he chose them.

J4KOP99
07-03-2014, 08:59 PM
Damn you Mitch Jeannie and Jim

Nikeman
07-03-2014, 09:11 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago
Says official who was part of meetings ESPN reported on: "There's clearly a breakdown in communication between LeBron and (Wade and Bosh)."

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN 2 minutes ago
As there was in 2010, there is only one way to truly recruit LeBron: talent. The roster matters more than virtually anything.

LeBron James has officially entered the FA market and is available as ever

If I am the Cleveland Cavaliers, I do whatever the hell I can to acquire one quality big man and then go all in for LeBron, they have Kyrie and Wiggins locked up, Tristan Thompson is a quality 12/10 guy, and a defensive and energy player in Varejao.

One quality big on that roster and with LeBron they can go far.

Waitors is quality trade bait, lets see what Cleveland does.

If I am Miami, after reading this, I am panicked, because our roster has 2 players, and at the minimum 45 mill of our 55 million remaining is taken by the big 3, and we have 10 million MAX, to add significant talent.

Nikeman
07-03-2014, 09:16 PM
Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat 1 minute ago
Upshot of LeBron latest: Pat Riley is on the clock like never before, and LeBron's faith in Wade's future is not exactly steadfast.

Dade County
07-03-2014, 09:17 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago
Says official who was part of meetings ESPN reported on: "There's clearly a breakdown in communication between LeBron and (Wade and Bosh)."

Brian Windhorst @WindhorstESPN 2 minutes ago
As there was in 2010, there is only one way to truly recruit LeBron: talent. The roster matters more than virtually anything.

LeBron James has officially entered the FA market and is available as ever

If I am the Cleveland Cavaliers, I do whatever the hell I can to acquire one quality big man and then go all in for LeBron, they have Kyrie and Wiggins locked up, Tristan Thompson is a quality 12/10 guy, and a defensive and energy player in Varejao.

One quality big on that roster and with LeBron they can go far.

Waitors is quality trade bait, lets see what Cleveland does.

If I am Miami, after reading this, I am panicked, because our roster has 2 players, and at the minimum 45 mill of our 55 million remaining is taken by the big 3, and we have 10 million MAX, to add significant talent.

And by Saturday morning the story will be spun into something else. Let me know when news camera's see any of the HEAT players attending one of these meetings.

Until then, the media is creating drama like they are paid to do.

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 09:19 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat 1 minute ago
Upshot of LeBron latest: Pat Riley is on the clock like never before, and LeBron's faith in Wade's future is not exactly steadfast.

Step up Cleveland!

Ebbs
07-03-2014, 09:22 PM
Same, the guy works for Dime Magazine so who knows if he really knows anything?

It's an educated guess. I've heard rumblings from higher up.
But like I said in the tweet it's mostly a feeling.


This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.

:laugh:

Nikeman
07-03-2014, 09:23 PM
As a HEAT fan, I am truly scared now. I've been waiting and waiting, but the reports out there change everyday and this is bad.

I just feel if everything was planned out between the Big 3 and the Miami front office, and everyone was committed to Miami, On July 1, at 12:01 A.M. we would have signed our Big 3, and at 12:02 A.M. we would be hardcore pursuing the certain players we wanted and fit with our roster and were reasonably priced. Not be mentioned as a team of interest for every major FA which has no business being on Miami as we cannot come close to affording (Lowry, Gortat etc etc)

goingfor28
07-03-2014, 09:30 PM
https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/status/484870303680438272

Am told LeBron decision on next team will be delivered suddenly, with little fanfare. "Bam, this is where I'm going," source described.

KnicksYanks
07-03-2014, 09:41 PM
@Chris_Broussard: Source: Knicks told Melo tonight that he can have max contract. Privately, they have told him this all along. Reiterated it tonight.

NBA_Starter
07-03-2014, 09:48 PM
This guy ****ing posts on PSD. He has no sources. Good god.


It's an educated guess. I've heard rumblings from higher up.
But like I said in the tweet it's mostly a feeling.



:laugh:

Thanks, the only way I'd be mad is if the Hornets don't even meet with Lance.


As a HEAT fan, I am truly scared now. I've been waiting and waiting, but the reports out there change everyday and this is bad.

I just feel if everything was planned out between the Big 3 and the Miami front office, and everyone was committed to Miami, On July 1, at 12:01 A.M. we would have signed our Big 3, and at 12:02 A.M. we would be hardcore pursuing the certain players we wanted and fit with our roster and were reasonably priced. Not be mentioned as a team of interest for every major FA which has no business being on Miami as we cannot come close to affording (Lowry, Gortat etc etc)

To play devils advocate they can't "sign" until the moratorium is up so all of this could be smoke and mirrors.

MrfadeawayJB
07-03-2014, 11:31 PM
@WojYahooNBA: Chris Kaman has reached agreement on a two-year, $10M deal with Portland, league source tells Yahoo Sports.