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torocan
06-30-2014, 11:05 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 4m

Jason Kidd will go to the Bucks to coach for 2015 and 2019 second round picks, league source tells Yahoo Sport.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

And so a new drama begins...

Deception
06-30-2014, 11:06 AM
Overpay, Nets didn't even want him anymore.

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 11:08 AM
Nets with the Steal. Anyone we get will be an immediate upgrade at head coach.

knicksfan1794
06-30-2014, 11:10 AM
How can a coach be traded?

Deception
06-30-2014, 11:12 AM
How can a couch be traded?

I traded my couch for a recliner.

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 11:15 AM
So Nets fans think Kidd is a terrible coach now, while during the season they were praising him lol.

thomass
06-30-2014, 11:16 AM
Jason Kidd = greatest coach of all time. Steal by the bucks here

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 11:16 AM
"Kidd led us to the best record in the second half of the season with key players down"

*Kidd gets traded*

"THANK GOD! He sucked! We are better already!"

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-30-2014, 11:18 AM
haha what a mess

colinskik
06-30-2014, 11:18 AM
So Nets fans think Kidd is a terrible coach now, while during the season they were praising him lol.

Well that clown above thinks he's a terrible coach now. Shouldn't shock anyone on this forum.

HYFR
06-30-2014, 11:18 AM
Kidd saw a sinking ship in bk and hopped off first chance he got lol. Now when those young bucks start gelling and making noise in the east, he will get tons of credit. Still a dog eat dog world and he did what was best for him even though it was a bit douchey.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
06-30-2014, 11:20 AM
That 2015 pick is probably the Nets second rounder anyway. Since Bucks traded #48 to Hawks we received the rights to the Nets pick.

colinskik
06-30-2014, 11:20 AM
Kidd saw a sinking ship in bk and hopped off first chance he got lol. Now when those young bucks start gelling and making noise in the east, he will get tons of credit. Still a dog eat dog world and he did what was best for him even though it was a bit douchey.

This entirely. The Nets situation is grim and Kidd certainly knows that.

True that this is a business and you gotta do you, but he really did some shady stuff here.

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 11:21 AM
Well that clown above thinks he's a terrible coach now. Shouldn't shock anyone on this forum.

Lol not just him though. I have seen a bunch of Nets fans talking about how bad of a coach he was since the Bucks rumors came about.

torocan
06-30-2014, 11:24 AM
The move was definitely slimy, but given that Billy King is terrible I'm not sure I fully blame him for wanting out. It just wasn't a clean or elegant way to go out.

As for the Larry Drew angle, the guy was the walking dead already in my opinion. The Bucks have new owners, and it was highly likely they were going to clean house on some level. They handled it poorly in that they should have fired Drew or given him more notice, but it's not like they owed him anything.

Eden and Lasry didn't hire Larry Drew. They owe him nothing other than a polite handshake and an escort out of the arena.

My personal gut tells me this was a Kidd vs King thing.

Rumors are that King tried to get Kidd fired early in the season. And King shot down all of Kidd's suggestions on trades and roster talent (Lopez vs Sanders, Jack vs Thornton), and to be honest I think Kidd was right on all those judgement calls.

If my supervisor did that to me, I'd probably look to get them fired or demoted as well.

It's easy to paint Kidd as the bad guy, and while he's definitely not a "good guy", I think we can't forget that King fired the first shot.

colinskik
06-30-2014, 11:24 AM
Lol not just him though. I have seen a bunch of Nets fans talking about how bad of a coach he was since the Bucks rumors came about.

Comedy at its finest. lol

To be fair, i thought Kidd did a pretty decent job with a roster that included two guys way over the hill in KG and Pierce, an "all star" pg in Deron who is nowhere near the player he once was, and their best player in Brook being injured.

All things considered he did a fine job and I think he'll get more out of the Bucks team than Larry Drew did.

colinskik
06-30-2014, 11:27 AM
The move was definitely slimy, but given that Billy King is terrible I'm not sure I fully blame him for wanting out. It just wasn't a clean or elegant way to go out.

As for the Larry Drew angle, the guy was the walking dead already in my opinion. The Bucks have new owners, and it was highly likely they were going to clean house on some level. They handled it poorly in that they should have fired Drew or given him more notice, but it's not like they owed him anything.

Eden and Lasry didn't hire Larry Drew. They owe him nothing other than a polite handshake and an escort out of the arena.

My personal gut tells me this was a Kidd vs King thing.

Rumors are that King tried to get Kidd fired early in the season. And King shot down all of Kidd's suggestions on trades and roster talent (Lopez vs Sanders, Jack vs Thornton), and to be honest I think Kidd was right on all those judgement calls.

If my supervisor did that to me, I'd probably look to get them fired or demoted as well.

It's easy to paint Kidd as the bad guy, and while he's definitely not a "good guy", I think we can't forget that King fired the first shot.

I'm in full agreement with the bolded statement. The personnel decisions lean toward Kidd as the better judge of team chemistry.

QUestion is, what did King have against Kidd?

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 11:27 AM
Comedy at its finest. lol

To be fair, i thought Kidd did a pretty decent job with a roster that included two guys way over the hill in KG and Pierce, an "all star" pg in Deron who is nowhere near the player he once was, and their best player in Brook being injured.

All things considered he did a fine job and I think he'll get more out of the Bucks team than Larry Drew did.

Oh yeah for sure. I hate giving credit to the Nets, but he did do a good job with them.

FYL_McVeezy
06-30-2014, 11:28 AM
So Nets fans think Kidd is a terrible coach now, while during the season they were praising him lol.

LOL exactly...

bunch of clowns...

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 11:30 AM
How can a couch be traded?

craigslist

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 11:32 AM
Lol not just him though. I have seen a bunch of Nets fans talking about how bad of a coach he was since the Bucks rumors came about.

He's not a bad coach. He's just a snake.

torocan
06-30-2014, 11:38 AM
He's not a bad coach. He's just a snake.

Here's what I would ask... is Kidd still a snake for going after King if King was opposed to his hiring, tried to get him fired, and shot down all his trade and roster input? Or is he just a guy playing corporate hardball?

I find it hard to pass judgement until we know more about what actually happened.

nycericanguy
06-30-2014, 11:38 AM
What Kidd did may be kind of messed up... but how can a coach feel comfortable with King as GM?

I mean he gave out MAX deals to not one, but TWO guys with horrible ankles who will probably never be the same again. He traded every 1st round pick he was allowed to trade, including the #6 pick for Gerald freaking Wallace who would have been a FA anyway, and then he compounded it by giving him a 4 year 40m deal!

He's one of the worst GM's in the league yet he still has a job how?

I can see why Kidd felt uncomfortable or insecure with team direction... but then, if King being GM bothered him so much why take the job to begin with?

At the end of the day though I'd much rather have Kidd running my team than King that's for sure.

D-Block21-Chito
06-30-2014, 11:44 AM
Billy Kind is ********... He should've packed lopez with kidd for larry sanders lol

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 11:45 AM
Here's what I would ask... is Kidd still a snake for going after King if King was opposed to his hiring, tried to get him fired, and shot down all his trade and roster input? Or is he just a guy playing corporate hardball?

I find it hard to pass judgement until we know more about what actually happened.
What happened was Kidd tried to make a power play and lost. Even if King was against hiring a guy with zero head coaching experience I dont see how that Justifies Kidd trying to take his job. He tried to leverage a team in a top-3 market for the Milwaukee Bucks. I could understand if Kidd had more notches on his belt making this move but he has alot of egg on his face. Nets went out on a limb for him but are actually better off for this move now we know Kidd's intentions.

GiantsSwaGG
06-30-2014, 11:49 AM
So Nets fans think Kidd is a terrible coach now, while during the season they were praising him lol.

I just wish DMF wasn't banned, he was all over Kidd's dick

WITZ
06-30-2014, 11:56 AM
Well Larry Drew really got ****ed over here.

"Here's what the Milwaukee owners had communicated to coach Larry Drew about negotiating a deal for his job w/ Jason Kidd: Nothing." Woj.

torocan
06-30-2014, 11:57 AM
What happened was Kidd tried to make a power play and lost. Even if King was against hiring a guy with zero head coaching experience I dont see how that Justifies Kidd trying to take his job. He tried to leverage a team in a top-3 market for the Milwaukee Bucks. I could understand if Kidd had more notches on his belt making this move but he has alot of egg on his face. Nets went out on a limb for him but are actually better off for this move now we know Kidd's intentions.

If it was just being opposed to hiring Kidd I'd agree, but trying to get him fired AND shutting down all his roster input? Heck, if my supervisor tried to do that to me you'd better bet I'd try to run him out of town.

As for the power play itself, what else is Kidd supposed to do? He most likely complained, then asked that the roster decisions be put in his hands (pres of basketball operations), and finally threw his last card on the table (if that's how it's going to be, let me look at other opportunities).

I can see why the Russians weren't thrilled and felt like Kidd was being ungrateful. On the other hand, I can see how Kidd felt like he was being undermined and had a supervisor that wanted to see him fail.

As for King, the guy has always been about saving his own skin from what I've seen throughout the years. Bad move after bad move even before he got to Brooklyn, always shooting for "big names" to try to save his own skin even if it sells the future of the franchise down the river.

Anyway, it's all just based off of rumors right now. We may never hear the real story until someone writes a memoir or years down the line when they're out of the league and willing to talk.

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 12:02 PM
I just wish DMF wasn't banned, he was all over Kidd's dick

Lol no wonder I haven't seen him in here yet.

Can't wait to hear from him when he gets back.

GiantsSwaGG
06-30-2014, 12:07 PM
Lol no wonder I haven't seen him in here yet.

Can't wait to hear from him when he gets back.

The Nets can hire Isiah Thomas and not only would he proclaim him the greatest coach of all time, but a great person/leader lol

omdigga
06-30-2014, 12:07 PM
maybe its because other first year coaches with no experience are getting PAID.. he might just be butt hurt about it.

its usually about money.

astonmartin10
06-30-2014, 12:17 PM
Kidd is smart to leave a sinking ship. Bucks are on the rise now, new owner, a young core and Parker who can become a special player. things look good for Milwaukee.

Kidd did alright in his first year with a team that had championship aspirations, let's see how he does with a rebuilding squad.

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 12:26 PM
If it was just being opposed to hiring Kidd I'd agree, but trying to get him fired AND shutting down all his roster input? Heck, if my supervisor tried to do that to me you'd better bet I'd try to run him out of town.

As for the power play itself, what else is Kidd supposed to do? He most likely complained, then asked that the roster decisions be put in his hands (pres of basketball operations), and finally threw his last card on the table (if that's how it's going to be, let me look at other opportunities).

I can see why the Russians weren't thrilled and felt like Kidd was being ungrateful. On the other hand, I can see how Kidd felt like he was being undermined and had a supervisor that wanted to see him fail.

As for King, the guy has always been about saving his own skin from what I've seen throughout the years. Bad move after bad move even before he got to Brooklyn, always shooting for "big names" to try to save his own skin even if it sells the future of the franchise down the river.

Anyway, it's all just based off of rumors right now. We may never hear the real story until someone writes a memoir or years down the line when they're out of the league and willing to talk.

Kidd was failing HARD the first half of the season against I can't blame BK for wanting him fired. I'm sure many people in the organization felt the same but the Russian stuck by him but instead of having a discussion with ownership he tried to play games and left in the dust.

Also as for King I could care less and I think he should have been fired a long time ago but the reality is I trust King as a GM ALOT more than I do Kidd who does not know the first thing about running an NBA franchise.

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 12:28 PM
Kidd is smart to leave a sinking ship. Bucks are on the rise now, new owner, a young corw and Parker who can become a special player. things look good for Milwaukee.

Kidd did alright in his first year with a team that had championship aspirations, let's see how he does with a rebuilding squad.

lmao it's never a good idea leaving a brand new organization with a state of the art facilities and an owner willing to spend anything to go be stuck in the armpit of America so you can coach up an awful team with a dirt poor owner and a GM equally as incompetent as Billy King that plays in aerna fit for DII basketball

Aust
06-30-2014, 12:33 PM
Ugh, Bucks, why you do dis?

Hawkamania
06-30-2014, 12:33 PM
"Kidd led us to the best record in the second half of the season with key players down"

*Kidd gets traded*

"THANK GOD! He sucked! We are better already!"

Yeah, I'd say you about summed it up.

greg_ory_2005
06-30-2014, 12:38 PM
DMF I need your wonderful insight on this trade. Tell me everything about coach Kidd

PartyPoison15
06-30-2014, 12:55 PM
The Nets are a complete mess of an organization right now.

raiderposting
06-30-2014, 01:01 PM
lmao it's never a good idea leaving a brand new organization with a state of the art facilities and an owner willing to spend anything to go be stuck in the armpit of America so you can coach up an awful team with a dirt poor owner and a GM equally as incompetent as Billy King that plays in aerna fit for DII basketball

Milwaukee isn't the the armpit of America. The state of New Jersey is which your favorite team was once from.

ManRam
06-30-2014, 01:03 PM
The Nets are a complete mess of an organization right now.

I don't think it's the Nets that come out looking bad here. It's Kidd.


Milwaukee isn't the the armpit of America. The state of New Jersey is which your favorite team was once from.

I have literally never heard of any state other than NJ referred to as that. Ironic use, for sure.

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 01:08 PM
I don't think it's the Nets that come out looking bad here. It's Kidd.



I have literally never heard of any state other than NJ referred to as that. Ironic use, for sure.
I'm not from Jersey so no offense taken but if Jersey is the armpit what does that make Milwaukee??

DerekCzajkowski
06-30-2014, 01:08 PM
And this is why we suck every year

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 01:13 PM
And this is why we suck every year

Yea I think it's starts with Billy King but Kidd had to go.

BlinkManJan02
06-30-2014, 01:13 PM
I like the move, I believe I read something about Kidd potentially being able to attract more FA's..hopefully that's the case. The Bucks are going to be busy, can't wait to see what other moves they make. That is too bad for Drew though..he had some success in Atlanta so I am sure he will get a look again at some point. Someone always needs a coach.

ManRam
06-30-2014, 01:15 PM
I'm not from Jersey so no offense taken but if Jersey is the armpit what does that make Milwaukee??

A pretty decent state in the middle of the country. Can be kinda cold.

But what does it matter?

Milwaukee has a really nice young core and the team is only going to improve. That's a nice place for a young coach to be. That team improves over the next 3 years regardless of who's coaching it, but it will now be Kidd and he'll get the credit for it. Oh, and Milwaukee is going to (probably) be getting a brand new downtown arena too, so there's that.

DR_1
06-30-2014, 01:19 PM
I traded my couch for a recliner.

:laugh2:

torocan
06-30-2014, 01:21 PM
Kidd was failing HARD the first half of the season against I can't blame BK for wanting him fired. I'm sure many people in the organization felt the same but the Russian stuck by him but instead of having a discussion with ownership he tried to play games and left in the dust.

Also as for King I could care less and I think he should have been fired a long time ago but the reality is I trust King as a GM ALOT more than I do Kidd who does not know the first thing about running an NBA franchise.

Uh, you realize that Deron Willams missed 11 of the first 20 games? And that Brook Lopez missed 7 of the first 20 games? And that Brooke Lopez was out for the season after the 23rd game?

How well did you expect a HC to perform when they lose their "all star" PG after 8 games and their "all star" center and #1 scorer for 65 games?

DWill's game logs... http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willide01/gamelog/2014/
Lopez's game logs... http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lopezbr01/gamelog/2014/

And how quickly did you expect Kidd to be able to adjust? IE, design a system entirely around a crap DWill and absent Brook Lopez?

That King was looking to get Kidd fired in his first season under those conditions is pretty unreasonable by most standards.

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 01:34 PM
Uh, you realize that Deron Willams missed 11 of the first 20 games? And that Brook Lopez missed 7 of the first 20 games? And that Brooke Lopez was out for the season after the 23rd game?

How well did you expect a HC to perform when they lose their "all star" PG after 8 games and their "all star" center and #1 scorer for 65 games?

DWill's game logs... http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willide01/gamelog/2014/
Lopez's game logs... http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lopezbr01/gamelog/2014/

And how quickly did you expect Kidd to be able to adjust? IE, design a system entirely around a crap DWill and absent Brook Lopez?

That King was looking to get Kidd fired in his first season under those conditions is pretty unreasonable by most standards.

King is an idiot but like 90% of people watching the Nets thought Kidd should get the can. BK was hardly alone on that. Can't believe I'm defending Billy King SMH.

torocan
06-30-2014, 01:38 PM
Looks like this really is all about King.

Per Grantland


But multiple sources insist the maneuvering started during the fraught months of December and January, and that Kidd did not open the game by asking for the top front-office job. Kidd during that period approached ownership with concerns about King’s job performance, sources say — King’s commitment, leadership, and vision for the future. Kidd suggested the organization might hire an outsider for a front-office job above King, sources say. Kidd even wondered if ownership had a basketball guy in Russia who might come to Brooklyn and take on a more activist role above King.

Kidd did not pitch himself for the job — not at first, anyway. Those initial discussions went nowhere, though not everyone involved agrees on the timing and tenor of those talks. King is well liked in Brooklyn, and has followed ownership edicts in dealing away just about every future asset possible to win immediately. The Bucks sought permission to talk to Kidd earlier this month, presumably about their head coaching job, and when the Nets were slow to respond, Kidd and his team began agitating for Kidd himself to assume the double perch, sources say.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/grantland-exclusive-the-jason-kidd-mess-has-a-144-million-pricetag/

So, Kidd expressed concerns to the management. Asked them to bring someone from the outside to take on the basketball decisions.

And when he saw that was going nowhere asked if he could take on the role, and if not he wanted to explore other options....

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 01:42 PM
Bucks will make the playoffs this year with a winning record.

siix
06-30-2014, 02:07 PM
lol nets fans are so funny

LOOTERX9
06-30-2014, 02:15 PM
nets are stupid. should have traded lopez and d will like kidd wanted. those 2 are stiffs . nets are hanging on to dead weight pretending those 2 are gonna lead them to east title. smh.. i would fire billy king

flclfanman
06-30-2014, 02:50 PM
Sooo...what happens to Larry Drew?

Also, the Bucks would be nuts to let Kidd anywhere near the FO. He'd end up trying to trade Greek Freak for Rudy Gay or some weird ****.


nets are stupid. should have traded lopez and d will like kidd wanted. those 2 are stiffs . nets are hanging on to dead weight pretending those 2 are gonna lead them to east title. smh.. i would fire billy king


Trade Lopez to who? Who wants an injured center on that contract...Philly?

MILLERHIGHLIFE
06-30-2014, 02:56 PM
I'm not from Jersey so no offense taken but if Jersey is the armpit what does that make Milwaukee??

We have a lake and a river and some beer and cheese. Culvers franchise started in Wisconsin.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
06-30-2014, 03:00 PM
Bucks will make the playoffs this year with a winning record.

I hope not. Were gearing up for one more tank-athon. C'mon Mudiay/Okafor!:cheers:

FriedTofuz
06-30-2014, 03:04 PM
LOL at Nets fans who said Jason Kidd was a great Coach and are now saying he sucks after being traded :laugh2: Hypocrites

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 03:08 PM
Sooo...what happens to Larry Drew?

Also, the Bucks would be nuts to let Kidd anywhere near the FO. He'd end up trying to trade Greek Freak for Rudy Gay or some weird ****.




Trade Lopez to who? Who wants an injured center on that contract...Philly?

He has been fired.

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 03:08 PM
I hope not. Were gearing up for one more tank-athon. C'mon Mudiay/Okafor!:cheers:

Lol

flclfanman
06-30-2014, 03:18 PM
He has been fired.

Well that makes that post-draft day presser with him, Hammond, and Jabari AWK-WARD.

MILLERHIGHLIFE
06-30-2014, 03:21 PM
Yeah I thought it was a cold move to string Drew along then fired. Oh well he gets to collect two years of paychecks doing nothing.

kingkenny01
06-30-2014, 03:22 PM
Not that second round picks are a huge deal, but I don't like that they had to trade for a coach. This team won't complete for the playoffs this year in all likelihood and probably be pretty bad but If kidd is truly committed the team has long term potential a few years from now.

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 03:42 PM
Not that second round picks are a huge deal, but I don't like that they had to trade for a coach. This team won't complete for the playoffs this year in all likelihood and probably be pretty bad but If kidd is truly committed the team has long term potential a few years from now.

kidd has burned bridges in every facet of his life I doubt it will end any better in Milwaukee

MILLERHIGHLIFE
06-30-2014, 03:48 PM
Well the Hawks owned the Nets second rounder in 2015. That's the pick we acquired when we traded our third second rounder which was #48 overall to the Hawks. So Nets just get their own pick back and a future 2009 which is ours. But John Hammond collects second round picks. Prior to this draft, Bucks owned 9 second round picks total in next 4 drafts. We had three this draft.

flclfanman
06-30-2014, 03:51 PM
Yeah I thought it was a cold move to string Drew along then fired. Oh well he gets to collect two years of paychecks doing nothing.

And he'll probably get a asst job with a new coach (SVG,Kerr, Fish, Blatt, etc.)

NYKnickFanatic
06-30-2014, 03:55 PM
Not that second round picks are a huge deal, but I don't like that they had to trade for a coach. This team won't complete for the playoffs this year in all likelihood and probably be pretty bad but If kidd is truly committed the team has long term potential a few years from now.

I think they will make the playoffs with a winning record.

Rockice_8
06-30-2014, 04:06 PM
Here's what I would ask... is Kidd still a snake for going after King if King was opposed to his hiring, tried to get him fired, and shot down all his trade and roster input? Or is he just a guy playing corporate hardball?

I find it hard to pass judgement until we know more about what actually happened.

Go ask Larry Drew if he thinks Kidd is a snake. JVG said it best, you don't talk about coaching another team unless it's vacant. Kidd just shafted Drew who was excited about coaching Parker.

Kidd has never been a model off the court so lets just call a spade a spade, Kidd was a snake more than likely.

As for the trade seems like a win for the Nets, they 2 picks for a guy who they were probably going to fire anyway. Kidd has a bright future behind the bench and I thought he really improved as a coach. He'll be missed behind the bench but there are plenty of capable guys out there (Jackson, Hollins, Karl) who can easily fill in for Kidd without missing a beat.

While Kidd showed promise he isn't Carlisle or Pop here. Bring in Jackson or Hollins and they be fine and actually have a few extra picks (probably the only good thing King does is draft well, especially late).

They'll probably give it a go one last time next year with the same or similar group with a more experienced coach and then blow it up the following year before they clear their cap for 2016.

naps
06-30-2014, 04:09 PM
I loved Jason Kidd the player but never liked his personality. Once again he proves why he's not a like-able guy.

astonmartin10
06-30-2014, 04:55 PM
Kidd is smart to leave a sinking ship. Bucks are on the rise now, new owner, a young corw and Parker who can become a special player. things look good for Milwaukee.

Kidd did alright in his first year with a team that had championship aspirations, let's see how he does with a rebuilding squad.

lmao it's never a good idea leaving a brand new organization with a state of the art facilities and an owner willing to spend anything to go be stuck in the armpit of America so you can coach up an awful team with a dirt poor owner and a GM equally as incompetent as Billy King that plays in aerna fit for DII basketball

Milwaukee armpit of america???????? Isn't that New Jersey lol

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 05:10 PM
Milwaukee armpit of america???????? Isn't that New Jersey lol

Do you only have 1 armpit?

FYL_McVeezy
06-30-2014, 05:30 PM
He's not a bad coach. He's just a snake.

That's fair.

Giannis94
06-30-2014, 05:36 PM
Milwaukee isn't the the armpit of America. The state of New Jersey is which your favorite team was once from.

Milwaukee isn't even the armpit of the midwest. That goes to Detroit MI, and Gary Indiana and probably a few other cities as well. While Milwaukee isn't the greatest city, it does have some redeeming qualities as long as you A. Know where your going B.) Are out of there by 1am.

Giannis94
06-30-2014, 05:37 PM
Not that second round picks are a huge deal, but I don't like that they had to trade for a coach. This team won't complete for the playoffs this year in all likelihood and probably be pretty bad but If kidd is truly committed the team has long term potential a few years from now.

What happens if LBJ, Wade, Bosh, Lowry all leave the East?

MickeyMgl
06-30-2014, 05:55 PM
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

And so a new drama begins...

Nice trade by Nets. Bucks, not so much.

MickeyMgl
06-30-2014, 05:56 PM
Not that second round picks are a huge deal, but I don't like that they had to trade for a coach. This team won't complete for the playoffs this year in all likelihood and probably be pretty bad but If kidd is truly committed the team has long term potential a few years from now.

There's a lot of good players left in the top half of the 2nd round, where Milwaukee's picks are likely to land.

Six-8-TheWizard
06-30-2014, 06:17 PM
Stupid move by the Bucks. With what Kidd did, they were probably gonna fire him anyway

dcenate05050
06-30-2014, 06:32 PM
Lets be honest. Who doesnt want to leave the Nets? Barely any picks , washed players, billy king..

dcenate05050
06-30-2014, 06:37 PM
Looks like this really is all about King.

Per Grantland



http://grantland.com/the-triangle/grantland-exclusive-the-jason-kidd-mess-has-a-144-million-pricetag/

So, Kidd expressed concerns to the management. Asked them to bring someone from the outside to take on the basketball decisions.

And when he saw that was going nowhere asked if he could take on the role, and if not he wanted to explore other options....

Nets had no direction. Why would he want to stay. Hes a snake but he knows Basketball and the Nets look screwed for the future

dcenate05050
06-30-2014, 06:39 PM
I hope not. Were gearing up for one more tank-athon. C'mon Mudiay/Okafor!:cheers:

than the bucks should of kept larry drew to lead the tank

kingkenny01
06-30-2014, 06:41 PM
There's a lot of good players left in the top half of the 2nd round, where Milwaukee's picks are likely to land.

True but it is a crapshoot lots of players will never play in the nba, and some will be out of the nba in a year or two

GiantsSwaGG
06-30-2014, 06:42 PM
Lets be honest. Who doesnt want to leave the Nets? Barely any picks , washed players, billy king..

You have a point

todu82
06-30-2014, 07:13 PM
Yeah, Kidd's smart to leave Brooklyn. That's a rapidly aging lineup with a severe lack of draft picks.

lvlheaded
06-30-2014, 07:30 PM
I think Kidd did a nice job. Obviously he isn't perfect as a coach, but he did a phenomenal job in the second half. I'm curious to see what he does with Milwaukee, more curious to see how the Nets do moving forward, 3rd coach in 3 years

waveycrockett
06-30-2014, 07:50 PM
Alot of haters in the house. You guys giving us the Lakers/Heat treatment. I like it

torocan
06-30-2014, 08:28 PM
Alot of haters in the house. You guys giving us the Lakers/Heat treatment. I like it

The Nets would have to have rings to get the Lakers/Heat treatment. Or at least have gotten to the Finals in the last decade.

It's more like the Maloof brothers Kings treatment...

JJ_JKidd
06-30-2014, 09:52 PM
The ship is sinking. Kidd knows how lousy the team is managed. Its either he manages it, or that he get out of the sinking ship.

JJ_JKidd
07-01-2014, 04:00 AM
Kidd saw a sinking ship in bk and hopped off first chance he got lol. Now when those young bucks start gelling and making noise in the east, he will get tons of credit. Still a dog eat dog world and he did what was best for him even though it was a bit douchey.

Its douchey but is there another way? When you dont have a 1st rd draft pick in the next 8-10 years, have a GM that is clearly one of the worst in the league, what can you do? Stand pat, wait for the team to pile up loses then eventually get fired?

MILLERHIGHLIFE
07-01-2014, 07:13 AM
According to Woj Bucks/Nets cant trade with each other for this up coming season. So there goes one less trading partner for Ersan. Cause we all know Nets been wanting Ersan last 5 years.

torocan
07-01-2014, 07:15 AM
So the Nets lost $144M last season.

Maybe Kidd was worried whether his paycheck was going to clear?

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cmb0310
07-01-2014, 07:24 AM
So the Nets lost $144M last season.

Maybe Kidd was worried whether his paycheck was going to clear?

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Lol, owner is worth over 10 billion dollars, I wouldn't be too worried, this is all because he has to pay that 90 million dollar luxury tax to the nba. Also on the Kidd thing, idk a ton about what coaches are supposed to be doing and all that but everytime there was a timeout he would just stand there he'd just stand there yell a phrase or 2 drink a soda have someone else draw up plays had Garnett give motivational speeches, it didn't look like he was doing anything, but as a nets fan I thought okay it's his first year he'll get better as time goes on they played well for him in the second half blah blah and now that this happened I'm not really upset about it. Hope we get Hollins or Jackson.

koreancabbage
07-01-2014, 10:06 AM
Alot of haters in the house. You guys giving us the Lakers/Heat treatment. I like it

you are getting the Donal Sterling treatment. not the Lakers/Heat. They are hated for winning. You guys are hated for sucking and being incompetent (not the fans, just management and the team itself =P)

BDawk4Prez
07-01-2014, 01:35 PM
As one of the biggest J-Kidd fans ever, I don't see why he gets such a bad rap. :shrug: