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B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-15-2014, 10:55 PM
Where's it at now? Most of claimed that he's been the best PF of all time for a while now, but is he now a top 5 player of all time after this?

KnicksorBust
06-15-2014, 10:56 PM
#1.) MJ
#2.) KAJ
#3.) Magic
#4.) Tim Duncan

Avenged
06-15-2014, 11:13 PM
Isn't there a thread on this already? Could be wrong.

Lakers + Giants
06-15-2014, 11:17 PM
I voted 5th but yea, only 3 players that are for sure better than him are Jordan, Kareem and Magic. I'd say 4th.

Hellcrooner
06-15-2014, 11:18 PM
just behind the Three unsurmountable guys Magic, Jordan and Kareem.

He is 4th right now for me over Bird , wilt, Robertson, Russell.

definetly ahead of the Kobes, Lebrons, shaqs, hakeems.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-15-2014, 11:21 PM
I had him in that 5-8 range since last finals.

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Johnson
4. Duncan
5. Wilt
6. Shaq
7. Lebron
8. Kobe
9. Bird
10. Hakeem

king4day
06-15-2014, 11:22 PM
This finals win, IMO, eliminates any chance for LeBron to surpass him in terms of impact of a team.
Duncan did it early in his career, during his prime, and during his twilight.
LeBron is already an alltime great but 5 rings for Duncan (including 2 against LeBron) has Timmy embedded above him.

amos1er
06-15-2014, 11:24 PM
#1.) MJ
#2.) KAJ
#3.) Magic
#4.) Tim Duncan

Yup, that's how I have it now. Swap Magic for KAJ though.

amos1er
06-15-2014, 11:26 PM
I had him in that 5-8 range since last finals.

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Johnson
4. Duncan
5. Wilt
6. Shaq
7. Lebron
8. Kobe
9. Bird
10. Hakeem

I agree with your list except for having Lebron in the top ten already.

1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Wilt
6. Shaq
7. Kobe
8. Bird
9. Hakeem
10. Russell

Lebron is somewhere between 11-15 IMO.

amos1er
06-15-2014, 11:26 PM
I voted 5th but yea, only 3 players that are for sure better than him are Jordan, Kareem and Magic. I'd say 4th.

Agreed.

amos1er
06-15-2014, 11:27 PM
I voted fifth by mistake. I meant to pick fourth.

Cal827
06-15-2014, 11:29 PM
Duncan is in the top 5 for me.

This pretty much ends the debate between who's better with Kobe and Duncan. I have him at around 4.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-15-2014, 11:31 PM
I agree with your list except for having Lebron in the top ten already.

1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Wilt
6. Shaq
7. Kobe
8. Bird
9. Hakeem
10. Russell

Lebron is somewhere between 11-15 IMO.

Talent wise, he's pretty much top 5. Accolade wise, he's not as strong as the rest (outside of Hakeem).

Either way, Lebron will be top 5 when he retires. I have him going 5 MVP, 4 titles, 3 finals lost, 4 FMVP.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-15-2014, 11:32 PM
Weird to see how much just 2 years have done to change peiple's opinions this much in this forum. IIRC, he was ranked 9th in the top 50 we did here a couple years back.

Cal827
06-15-2014, 11:32 PM
I agree with your list except for having Lebron in the top ten already.

1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Wilt
6. Shaq
7. Kobe
8. Bird
9. Hakeem
10. Russell

Lebron is somewhere between 11-15 IMO.

Good List. I might swap Hakeem/Wilt and possibly Shaq and Kobe, but that's me. I do think LBJ is going to jump a lot of players on this list, but that'll be later lol

Raps18-19 Champ
06-15-2014, 11:35 PM
Weird to see how much just 2 years have done to change peiple's opinions this much in this forum. IIRC, he was ranked 9th in the top 50 we did here a couple years back.

That list was wrong since it started.

steelcityroller
06-16-2014, 12:54 AM
Yeah easily top 5 all-time.

NoahH
06-16-2014, 03:02 AM
Tim Duncan is unbelievable and could be top 3 all time (I would say 4 personally). This dude went out and won his team the finals in 1999 and FIFTEEN YEARS later he's still a top tier player and the best player on his team. That is unprecedented and unreal.

slashsnake
06-16-2014, 03:09 AM
Where's it at now? Most of claimed that he's been the best PF of all time for a while now, but is he now a top 5 player of all time after this?

4-8 I think is fair, somewhere in there fits well. Of course can a guy who played the majority of his career thus far at Center really still be the best PF of all time? He's built and plays like a PF, but he played almost all of his time lately at the 5. Oh well, arguably the best big outside of Kareem.

amos1er
06-16-2014, 05:43 AM
Talent wise, he's pretty much top 5. Accolade wise, he's not as strong as the rest (outside of Hakeem).

Either way, Lebron will be top 5 when he retires. I have him going 5 MVP, 4 titles, 3 finals lost, 4 FMVP.

I was speaking from a current legacy standpoint. Raw talent aside.

Time will tell if your projection comes to fruition.

archdevil84
06-16-2014, 06:27 AM
quite stunning to think duncan now has 5 rings! 5!!!!! thats a damn lot and he's been performing for so long. i''ve been following the NBA for 3 years now and other then wade there is no player i'd rather seen in his prime then timmmy

GrkGawdofWalkz
06-16-2014, 07:28 AM
He's in the discussion from 6-10 on and that's as a diehard Spurs fan. You can talk all you want, and yes he is one of the best to ever suit up. But there are so many players in different eras that can be defined by their team, indiviudal achievements and everything else. One thing that Duncan has is humility, class and while David Robinson is one hell of a basketball player, Duncan is the embodiment of Spurs basketball. Through fundamentals, hard work and devotion to his craft. Congrats TD21.

Hawkamania
06-16-2014, 08:54 AM
I'd say 4th, although many can make a reasonable argument for 5th.

hidalgo
06-16-2014, 09:58 AM
amazing. 15 years from his 1st title to his 5th. contenders every year since 1998. 5 titles as his teams best player (yes i think Duncan is their best still, barely over Parker & Kawie). Timmy 4 life yo!

the 3 best players after Jordan retired in early 1999. Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal, LeBron James

i have Timmy at #5 now, all time.

His Airness
Magic
Kareem
Wilt (almost debating moving Duncan into this spot.... hmmmm, 50/50 on it)
Duncan
Bird
Shaquille
Russell
Lebron
Olajuwon

Oscar

Longhornfan1234
06-16-2014, 10:18 AM
1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Russell
6. Duncan
7. Bird
8. Shaq
9. Kobe
10. LeBron

Chronz
06-16-2014, 10:45 AM
I said at the start of the year, if Duncan just had another fairly dominant run to the Finals like he did last year, I would finally put him above Shaq, this should be alot simpler now that hes won the whole thing yet again. It must be my overall love of Shaq that prevents me from doing so, Ill just admit that Duncan has prolly had the better career all things considered, but Shaq was easily the superior player. Because of that, I will always have a case for him.

beyourself
06-16-2014, 10:52 AM
I said at the start of the year, if Duncan just had another fairly dominant run to the Finals like he did last year, I would finally put him above Shaq, this should be alot simpler now that hes won the whole thing yet again. It must be my overall love of Shaq that prevents me from doing so, Ill just admit that Duncan has prolly had the better career all things considered, but Shaq was easily the superior player. Because of that, I will always have a case for him.

I wouldn't go that far to say easily. Shaq may have been slightly more dominant, but Duncan in 2003 was unreal. A total 1 man show.

raiderfaninTX
06-16-2014, 10:55 AM
talk about a caught up in the moment thread.

Since it's right after the finals bump it down two spots from the most voted spot and you're probably in the right area. Same with where would lebron finish his career in the top 10, you would just bump it up two spots

tripleplay2007
06-16-2014, 11:17 AM
1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Russell
6. Bird
7. Duncan
8. Shaq
9. Hakeem
10. Kobe

Chronz
06-16-2014, 11:32 AM
I wouldn't go that far to say easily. Shaq may have been slightly more dominant, but Duncan in 2003 was unreal. A total 1 man show.
Peak Shaq was several notches more dominant. 2003 loses some luster when you take a look at the landscape of the NBA, how Dirk/C-Webb succumbed to injury and the overall depleted state of the Lakers. Its crazy to think the team that the Lakers swept outright the year prior, was the one that put up the best fight against his Spurs that year. Shaq obliterated those Nets in a far more impressive fashion, that he was on a better team isn't going to sway me from realizing superior individual play.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-16-2014, 02:49 PM
I was speaking from a current legacy standpoint. Raw talent aside.

Time will tell if your projection comes to fruition.

Well talent and accomplishment wise, he's surpassed Hakeem (same titles, more MVP, more finals appearances, etc.

Vegemiteman
06-22-2014, 07:26 AM
I see him at about 5-7. The top 4 are undeniable, and possibly Russell and Shaq are slightly ahead of him

MJ
Wilt
Magic
Kareem
Duncan/Shaq/Russell
Kobe