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killthesux
05-13-2014, 06:13 PM
Hello Everyone. Welcome to the NBA All-time redraft playoffs. These will be a battle between two made up teams from our host of GMs in to see who reigns superiority over all of basketball. There is a slight twist in this All-time: each team has a starter from each decade. Please read the write-ups and vote for who you think would win in a 7 game series.

Winterfell
PG: Tony Parker
SG: Bruce Bowen
SF: Bernard King
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Patrick Ewing

6: Shane Battier
7: Marques Johnson
8: Vin Baker
9: Derek Fisher
10: Rick Mahorn
11: Bill Sharman
12: Louie Dampier

vs

Azkaban

G: Isiah Thomas - Kyrie Irving
G: Eddie Jones - Dell Curry
F: Paul Pierce - Tayshaun Prince - Billy Cunningham
F: Amare Stoudemire - Elton Brand
C: Bill Russell- Bill Cartwright - Jeff Ruland

Winterfell has Home Court advantage

Neither Team has submitted a write up*

Ebbs
05-13-2014, 06:17 PM
I'll get in here when I can to write something but I'm packing to fly home. Be on planes for the next day.

Shammyguy3
05-13-2014, 07:30 PM
private poll? should've voted for myself

Matter.
05-13-2014, 08:03 PM
kts....

KnicksorBust
05-13-2014, 08:11 PM
I think Winterfell will win this voting easily but this is a much better matchup than anyone would realize. Isiah would outplay Parker. Bowen is not as valuable because he's not guarding a quick athletic wing player. Stoudemire actually averaged almost 30ppg/13rpg on 55% in his only playoff matchup vs. Dirk (both in their primes). If people respect how good STAT was in his prime this could be a deep series. Plus, who do you trust in a big game? Bill Russell or Patrick Ewing? As much as it pains me to say it, I could see Ewing having some TERRIBLE like 6-19 type games. Azkaban remains the best Bill Russell team we've seen yet in a redraft. Nice job by both teams.

Sadds The Gr8
05-13-2014, 08:17 PM
I think winterfell will win with votes too but I also think the matchup is very close with Azkaban. I'll vote when I get home

Shammyguy3
05-13-2014, 08:57 PM
i don't have the time to make a full write-up due to studying, but i'll float this by you guys:

Isiah Thomas is one of the greatest assist/scoring combo guards to ever play. People forget that this guy averaged 10+ assists a game 4 times in his career (one season he put up 14apg) while also posting ast%es above 40% three seasons (even lead the league once). His mid-range shooting ability coupled with Amare's pick&roll will be a dominating aspect.

That will be a focal point of Azkaban's offense. Think about this: Tony Parker and Dirk Nowitzki being forced to defend the pick & roll excessively. If they stick Patrick Ewing on the pick and roll, then that leaves Dirk trying to outrebound Bill Russell.

Paul Pierce provides a fantastic second ball-handler and third option to the team, helping space the floor (37.0% from three) along with Eddie Jones who is a career 37.3% shooter from deep. Bill Russell is arguably the greatest passing center of all time, leaving 3 great passers in the starting lineup with himself, Thomas, and Pierce.

Defensively, we simply have the greatest DPOY to ever play the game anchoring a defense with Eddie Jones covering the opposing team's best scorers (in this case King). Eddie Jones made 3 all-defensive teams in his tenure in the league.

My team has it all: passing, scoring, rebounding, defense, and shooting. We have championship galore: a total of 14 championships in the starting lineup, 5 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs, all-defensive teams, and so forth. Azkaban should advance in a long series.

KnicksorBust
05-13-2014, 09:04 PM
i don't have the time to make a full write-up due to studying, but i'll float this by you guys:

Isiah Thomas is one of the greatest assist/scoring combo guards to ever play. People forget that this guy averaged 10+ assists a game 4 times in his career (one season he put up 14apg) while also posting ast%es above 40% three seasons (even lead the league once). His mid-range shooting ability coupled with Amare's pick&roll will be a dominating aspect.

That will be a focal point of Azkaban's offense. Think about this: Tony Parker and Dirk Nowitzki being forced to defend the pick & roll excessively. If they stick Patrick Ewing on the pick and roll, then that leaves Dirk trying to outrebound Bill Russell.

Paul Pierce provides a fantastic second ball-handler and third option to the team, helping space the floor (37.0% from three) along with Eddie Jones who is a career 37.3% shooter from deep. Bill Russell is arguably the greatest passing center of all time, leaving 3 great passers in the starting lineup with himself, Thomas, and Pierce.

Defensively, we simply have the greatest DPOY to ever play the game anchoring a defense with Eddie Jones covering the opposing team's best scorers (in this case King). Eddie Jones made 3 all-defensive teams in his tenure in the league.

My team has it all: passing, scoring, rebounding, defense, and shooting. We have championship galore: a total of 14 championships in the starting lineup, 5 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs, all-defensive teams, and so forth. Azkaban should advance in a long series.

This was a great sell. I agree that Winterfell would have a hell of a time slowing down the 2-man game of Zeke and STAT. I'm on the fence. Looking forward to reading a reply from Winterfell.

killthesux
05-13-2014, 10:07 PM
close this one please forgot to make the votes public

The_Jamal
05-13-2014, 11:59 PM
This is actually the closest series posted so far. Azkaban just has great answers for Winterfell. It's easy to forget how dirty STAT was back in his PHX days, especially with an outstanding PnR PG like IT. Dirk has the advantage obviously, but I could also see a 22+ PPG 50% FG series from STAT. Pierce also makes King work on both ends, and what I love about Pierce is his ability to play off-ball.

I also trust Eddie Jones enough to make TP pay to where Winterfell can't put Bowen on IT.

Most likely voting WF, but will wait for an Ebbs response.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2014, 12:05 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how Azkaban is a 7 seed?

Shammyguy3
05-14-2014, 12:12 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how Azkaban is a 7 seed?

i was a couple points away from being the 5th seed, but i must say i thought i had a good chance at HCA in round 1. Our conference is tough though, so i'm not surprised honestly due to people's viewpoints on Amare (even though there's a perfect defensive backup in Brand backing him up).

mightybosstone
05-14-2014, 08:48 AM
Wow..... Azkaban matches up really, really well with Winterfell. And the lack of a depth chart, write-up or explanation from Ebbs isn't doing him any favors. I'll wait to see what he has to say, but I'm definitely leaning Azkaban at this point.

Matter.
05-14-2014, 10:27 AM
Ill wait for ebbs

Matter.
05-14-2014, 02:08 PM
Bump

KnicksorBust
05-14-2014, 02:48 PM
Isiah would outplay Parker. Bowen is not as valuable because he's not guarding a quick athletic wing player. Stoudemire actually averaged almost 30ppg/13rpg on 55% in his only playoff matchup vs. Dirk (both in their primes). If people respect how good STAT was in his prime this could be a deep series. Plus, who do you trust in a big game? Bill Russell or Patrick Ewing? As much as it pains me to say it, I could see Ewing having some TERRIBLE like 6-19 type games. Azkaban remains the best Bill Russell team we've seen yet in a redraft. Nice job by both teams.


i don't have the time to make a full write-up due to studying, but i'll float this by you guys:

Isiah Thomas is one of the greatest assist/scoring combo guards to ever play. People forget that this guy averaged 10+ assists a game 4 times in his career (one season he put up 14apg) while also posting ast%es above 40% three seasons (even lead the league once). His mid-range shooting ability coupled with Amare's pick&roll will be a dominating aspect.

That will be a focal point of Azkaban's offense. Think about this: Tony Parker and Dirk Nowitzki being forced to defend the pick & roll excessively. If they stick Patrick Ewing on the pick and roll, then that leaves Dirk trying to outrebound Bill Russell.

Paul Pierce provides a fantastic second ball-handler and third option to the team, helping space the floor (37.0% from three) along with Eddie Jones who is a career 37.3% shooter from deep. Bill Russell is arguably the greatest passing center of all time, leaving 3 great passers in the starting lineup with himself, Thomas, and Pierce.

Defensively, we simply have the greatest DPOY to ever play the game anchoring a defense with Eddie Jones covering the opposing team's best scorers (in this case King). Eddie Jones made 3 all-defensive teams in his tenure in the league.

My team has it all: passing, scoring, rebounding, defense, and shooting. We have championship galore: a total of 14 championships in the starting lineup, 5 MVPs, 2 Finals MVPs, all-defensive teams, and so forth. Azkaban should advance in a long series.

Re-read these and convinced myself that Azkaban would win in 7. The 2-man game of Zeke and STAT would thrive in this series and Russell would force Ewing into some disastrous games. Plus I like Pierce on King.

PatsSoxKnicks
05-14-2014, 06:32 PM
If this is the matchup that was closed due to it not being public, why is this thread still open? A mod needs to close one of the threads because it's clear it's confusing voters (this thread has way more votes than the other one).

kdspurman
05-14-2014, 10:16 PM
Closing per Shammyguy's request.