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kdspurman
05-13-2014, 12:47 PM
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He's got this offer and GS pursuing him for their head coaching vacancy.

GunFactor187
05-13-2014, 12:53 PM
Warriors have declined...

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kdspurman
05-13-2014, 12:57 PM
Warriors have declined...

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Ah, thanks for the update!

Tony_Starks
05-13-2014, 01:21 PM
Pistons need some strong leadership. The inmates have been running the asylum for years.

lurkinglionsfan
05-13-2014, 01:25 PM
Please happen ,was one of 2 I wanted (Mark Jackson was the other ) would do wonders for the organization

ManRam
05-13-2014, 01:28 PM
Warriors have declined...

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Hmm...picking Lacob over SVG. Interesting...


I can't imagine Jennings or Smoove lasting in Detroit if this happens. SVG's head would explode. Would be a great hire. I'm biased, but he's the best guy out there, for sure.

lurkinglionsfan
05-13-2014, 01:38 PM
Hmm...picking Lacob over SVG. Interesting...


I can't imagine Jennings or Smoove lasting in Detroit if this happens. SVG's head would explode. Would be a great hire. I'm biased, but he's the best guy out there, for sure.

I know another reason I want it to happen so those clowns are 100% gone hate watching there 40+ shots for 30+ points , gets real old fast

tredigs
05-13-2014, 01:51 PM
Woj is saying he's "torn between opportunity to just be the HC of Warriors and have complete control of Pistons". Warriors need to sweeten the pot by ensuring that he will have a say in operations at the very least. They will have a tough time finding a better coach than SVG, and he is a significant upgrade over Jackson.

tredigs
05-13-2014, 01:53 PM
SVG really should not be demanding total control, though. That's Pop's territory of control. Nobody else has made that work.

tredigs
05-13-2014, 01:56 PM
Hmm...picking Lacob over SVG. Interesting...


I can't imagine Jennings or Smoove lasting in Detroit if this happens. SVG's head would explode. Would be a great hire. I'm biased, but he's the best guy out there, for sure.
Myers* over SVG, and saying that nobody could trump his decisions. For an ownership group as tied in as Lacob is at this point, that deal just is not happening in Golden State.

Tony_Starks
05-13-2014, 02:08 PM
SVG really should not be demanding total control, though. That's Pop's territory of control. Nobody else has made that work.

Pat Riley. Doc Rivers.

GunFactor187
05-13-2014, 02:15 PM
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lurkinglionsfan
05-13-2014, 02:15 PM
Woj is saying he's "torn between opportunity to just be the HC of Warriors and have complete control of Pistons". Warriors need to sweeten the pot by ensuring that he will have a say in operations at the very least. They will have a tough time finding a better coach than SVG, and he is a significant upgrade over Jackson.

f@#k the warriors the east is a cake walk compared to the west....

kdspurman
05-13-2014, 02:26 PM
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GunFactor187
05-13-2014, 02:34 PM
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GunFactor187
05-13-2014, 02:39 PM
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Weezy
05-13-2014, 02:49 PM
Nice move by Detroit.

tredigs
05-13-2014, 02:49 PM
Pat Riley. Doc Rivers.

Doc's a VP of operations and has only been that for one season.

Wade/Shaq were brought in when Riley was just a GM, as a player/OP manager he attempted to sign Juwan Howard and Brian Grant to 7 year 80+ Million dollar deals. Luckily for him the Howard deal did not go through. He never put it together when combined.

Regardless, hopefully Stan does not choose the long/hard road that will be Detroit. Knowing this league, they'd fire him after realizing a 3 year turnaround is unlikely.

shep33
05-13-2014, 03:01 PM
I love it for the Pistons.

Sucks for the Warriors, I thought he'd be a great fit

Iodine
05-13-2014, 03:02 PM
Doc's a VP of operations and has only been that for one season.

Wade/Shaq were brought in when Riley was just a GM, as a player/OP manager he attempted to sign Juwan Howard and Brian Grant to 7 year 80+ Million dollar deals. Luckily for him the Howard deal did not go through. He never put it together when combined.

Regardless, hopefully Stan does not choose the long/hard road that will be Detroit. Knowing this league, they'd fire him after realizing a 3 year turnaround is unlikely.

I hope Stan gets a better job than Detroit, but oh my god could you imagine him and Smith? Like sure he could probably get all there is out of KCP and others, but oh my god Smith would break him.

JWO35
05-13-2014, 03:03 PM
SVG must be hell bent on having power over his team....I'm completely fine with this roll of the dice from the pistons standpoint. Better than the last few clowns we had as HC

kdspurman
05-13-2014, 03:06 PM
I swear Woj knew all this before SVG did lol. That guy is on point

shep33
05-13-2014, 03:15 PM
Watch him trade everyone lol. Which he should... outside of Drummond, Monroe and Caldwell-Pope

JWO35
05-13-2014, 03:27 PM
I can actually see him getting along with Jennings....Josh Smith not so much :laugh2:

kdspurman
05-13-2014, 03:27 PM
These #'s are being discussed btw... Not official

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lurkinglionsfan
05-13-2014, 03:28 PM
I hope Stan gets a better job than Detroit, but oh my god could you imagine him and Smith? Like sure he could probably get all there is out of KCP and others, but oh my god Smith would break him.

Smith is gone most people know we can't keep him moose and dre, ( could still have knight if not for a dumb trade) andwhy do people act like Detroit is a terrible place for him ? Owner who wants to win, Willing to spend , good core ( young too ) top ten pick most likely and a decent amount of cap space with trade chips

flea
05-13-2014, 03:31 PM
Too bad, I'd have rather seen him determining Steph Curry's future setup than Drummond's. Hard to go wrong with either, though, and he's proven he can win with a flawed but dominant center. What he does in getting rid of Smith and perhaps Monroe will be interesting, but there are pieces in place for a good team in Detroit.

P&GRealist
05-13-2014, 03:35 PM
Shaq calls him the Master of Panic. Let's see how this bodes for Detroit going forward.

kduce
05-13-2014, 03:53 PM
I dunno how I feel about him having control over personnel decisions, but I would be excited to see him as a coach. He did ok with Dwight and it would be nice to have the same guy teach Drummond and get the most out of him. I can't say this would be my number one choice as far as set up, but it could be a lot worse and ill just be happy to have finally hired someone!

tredigs
05-13-2014, 04:53 PM
Apparently it takes $35 million and complete control of a franchise to choose Detroit over the Bay Area. Sounds about right.

And yes, I mad. SVG was my top choice to take over when we heard of MJ/management issues months ago.

tredigs
05-13-2014, 04:58 PM
And do all you want with Drummond and his world of ability, if I'm an opposing coach this guy will never see light for a meaningful minute of a playoff game. ~40% FT shooting insures that.

detzfish
05-13-2014, 05:16 PM
Ben Wallace couldn't shoot fts and still helped Detroit tremendously so I think we will be alright with Drummond sir.

tredigs
05-13-2014, 05:22 PM
Ben Wallace couldn't shoot fts and still helped Detroit tremendously so I think we will be alright with Drummond sir.

True. But Ben Wallace was one of the greatest paint defenders in history during his prime and had an amazing defensive cast surrounding that. Won't be easy to replicate the success of those Pistons (a big reason why they are among the most unique championship teams ever).

naps
05-13-2014, 05:50 PM
Wade/Shaq were brought in when Riley was just a GM, as a player/OP manager he attempted to sign Juwan Howard and Brian Grant to 7 year 80+ Million dollar deals. Luckily for him the Howard deal did not go through. He never put it together when combined.

Regardless, hopefully Stan does not choose the long/hard road that will be Detroit. Knowing this league, they'd fire him after realizing a 3 year turnaround is unlikely.

Riley has always been the president of Miami Heat since he arrived in South Beach. Randy Pfund was the GM at that time, IIRC.

naps
05-13-2014, 05:54 PM
tre is going nuts lol. I would too because I too think SVG is the best out there to coach basically any team.

MonroeFAN
05-13-2014, 06:27 PM
Yeah, there was a definite hint of saltiness there.

But this isn't a done deal. Still a chance he goes to either team.

RipCity32
05-13-2014, 06:27 PM
And he gets the next Dwight to work with. Here's a highlight video that really shows some of Drummonds potential. He was starting to show a nice low post game in the second half of the season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGvryuQDtWA

MonroeFAN
05-13-2014, 06:28 PM
Ripcity, they don't care.

Would rather beat a dead horse.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
05-13-2014, 07:02 PM
Love the move for Detroit, Dwight had his best years under stan and I expect the same for drummond if this happens ...

But I saw Otis smith is a top choice at GM for stan and that sucks!

Otis always over paid big or got people past there prime or both

Arenas
Vince
Hedo
Baby Davis
Rashard Lewis(got paid Kobe money)
Chris duhon
That's just to name a few

MonroeFAN
05-13-2014, 07:11 PM
The Otis rumor is just that, a rumor. But it's all speculative at this point.

RipCity32
05-13-2014, 07:13 PM
Love the move for Detroit, Dwight had his best years under stan and I expect the same for drummond if this happens ...

But I saw Otis smith is a top choice at GM for stan and that sucks!

Otis always over paid big or got people past there prime or both

Arenas
Vince
Hedo
Baby Davis
Rashard Lewis(got paid Kobe money)
Chris duhon
That's just to name a few

I seen that and it scares me. But I think that would be more of a get someone in he trusts to help with the things he doesn't know how to do yet. SVG would still be president so it will ultimately up to him on what moves happen.

deaner
05-13-2014, 07:25 PM
I can't wait to see how much Otis gives a team to take Josh. Say goodbye to your first rounder.

MonroeFAN
05-13-2014, 07:26 PM
The Otis rumor is just that, a rumor. But it's all speculative at this point.

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NBA_Starter
05-13-2014, 08:50 PM
Hopefully Charlotte gets the pick this year somehow or it will be not be lottery with him as coach.

Crackadalic
05-13-2014, 09:10 PM
I actually like this. Good move from the pistons

RipCity32
05-13-2014, 09:33 PM
It's a Done Deal, Hell Yeah!!

kdspurman
05-13-2014, 09:37 PM
It's a Done Deal, Hell Yeah!!

Nice :) Really good hire.

kdspurman
05-13-2014, 09:40 PM
Updated the thread title-

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MonroeFAN
05-13-2014, 09:46 PM
man, hell yes. This is such an incredible piece of news for a piston fan right now.

mdm692
05-13-2014, 09:58 PM
So is it safe to say Smith is gone?

Asik's better
05-13-2014, 10:00 PM
Will be interesting to see what the pistons do in the off-season. It will be hard to move smith and/or Jennings. But this is definitely a step in the right direction for the pistons.

mjt20mik
05-13-2014, 10:02 PM
great hire

lurkinglionsfan
05-13-2014, 10:05 PM
Wow I will definitely be getting a 10 game pack this year love this news, this is kid waking up on Christmas good

Cal827
05-13-2014, 10:10 PM
Good to hear for the Piston fans.

Bad to hear for everyone in the Eastern Conference lol

They just need to dump that Josh Smith contract on another team. Might be a little difficult, but it's definitely possible. They should look to deal him to a team where they might be desperate to appease another player on the team, or is looking to make huge moves.

I would pay close attention to how Cleveland approaches the Irving situation.
Possibly even LA, or New York, if they strike out in free agency.

D-Leethal
05-13-2014, 10:24 PM
When you think of the Dwight/Drummond parallel it makes a lot of sense. A lot of work ahead of him but I have a lot of respect for SVG and think he can turn it around over there.

NBA_Starter
05-13-2014, 10:37 PM
Congrats to the Pistons, they definitely got it right this time.

THE MTL
05-13-2014, 10:48 PM
They waste no time.

torocan
05-13-2014, 10:51 PM
Nice get by the Pistons.

Not a ton of coaches better than SVG floating around, and I think he'll do okay in terms of identifying talent.

Blink
05-13-2014, 10:53 PM
5th times the charm!!

Kushed
05-13-2014, 10:58 PM
Warriors ****ing up big time. I hope they take a step back next year just so lacob can't eat ****

DillyDill
05-13-2014, 11:11 PM
GL Piston fans I hope SVG can mold Drumm to be the next Superman.

SlimKid
05-13-2014, 11:30 PM
Finally, some good news for Detroit. Good move

5ass
05-13-2014, 11:59 PM
Love the move for Detroit, Dwight had his best years under stan and I expect the same for drummond if this happens ...

But I saw Otis smith is a top choice at GM for stan and that sucks!

Otis always over paid big or got people past there prime or both

Arenas
Vince
Hedo
Baby Davis
Rashard Lewis(got paid Kobe money)
Chris duhon
That's just to name a few

Agreed. Except would Otis have any power or will he just do whatever stan tells him? Either way, watch him turn those pistons into a top 5 defensive team.

JEDean89
05-14-2014, 12:04 AM
now pistons trade Monroe for a real SF (sign and trade to the cavs for Luol Deng?), pray Marcus smart falls into their lap and that Kenatvious works out. Sign some nice veterans to fill out the bench.

Jennings
Smart
Deng
Smith
Drummond

could work as a SVG team really well.

JWO35
05-14-2014, 12:50 AM
Agreed. Except would Otis have any power or will he just do whatever stan tells him? Either way, watch him turn those pistons into a top 5 defensive team.

Yeah the roles would be basically reversed compared to ORL...Otis will need the okay from SVG.
So if any stupid trades/signings come about it would be SVG signing off on them.

Deception
05-14-2014, 01:06 AM
now pistons trade Monroe for a real SF (sign and trade to the cavs for Luol Deng?), pray Marcus smart falls into their lap and that Kenatvious works out. Sign some nice veterans to fill out the bench.

Jennings
Smart
Deng
Smith
Drummond

could work as a SVG team really well.

Don't think you can sign and trade a sign and trade, both are FA. Plus Detroit would be stupid to do that, Deng is past his prime.

Crackadalic
05-14-2014, 01:22 AM
Brooklyn will trade for josh smith for Casper Williams and 2020/2022/2024 1st rounders unprotected

Lol jokes aside this is a good move by the pistons. Hope they can turn it around. Get the bad boys back in that city

JJ_JKidd
05-14-2014, 02:02 AM
The master of panic is again employed as a HC!

COOLbeans
05-14-2014, 02:24 AM
Warriors got played

naps
05-14-2014, 02:27 AM
Very good news for the pistons. Now all they have to is get rid of Josh Smith. It won't be easy though. Joe Dumars should give all his salary for past few years back for this signing. Pistons are about to make some noise in the playoffs next year. Really excited for them.

shep33
05-14-2014, 03:00 AM
Yeah, this is gold for the Pistons. Drummond might be Dwight 2.0 under Stan. Need to get rid of Smith though.

Slug3
05-14-2014, 03:13 AM
Damn 7 or so million a year for a guy who hasn't done much in his coaching career.

tredigs
05-14-2014, 03:27 AM
I'm actually fine with the Warriors passing on him because I'm not OK with SVG having that much control of our franchise, but I'm very disappointed he will not be our coach. It would have been very easy to prove to those who defended Mark Jackson as a great coach just how wrong they were.

Now we need to see GSW not go after Kerr too hard, he's likely only marginally better than MJ, and there are plenty of amazing coaches still available (albeit far smaller names).

Good job by the Pistons. To pull in a coach of his caliber they had to overpay and give too much control, but it's still easily a net+ over their prior situation.

tredigs
05-14-2014, 03:29 AM
Damn 7 or so million a year for a guy who hasn't done much in his coaching career.

Pretty sure he has the 4th highest win% in NBA history and is regarded by all the top talent evaluators as an elite in-game coach. And really, who cares, it's a billionaires money that doesn't effect the cap.

PurpleLynch
05-14-2014, 05:20 AM
Good for the Pistons. Theier best shot with him will be building a top defensive team around Drummond. They should get a good pick this year and they have already players to work on.They need to trade Monroe though and take a good Sf and move Smith to Pf(with Drummond,they could be an awesome defensive duo). They need to do what the Magic did in 2008-2009.

MonroeFAN
05-14-2014, 08:17 AM
I'm actually fine with the Warriors passing on him because I'm not OK with SVG having that much control of our franchise, but I'm very disappointed he will not be our coach. It would have been very easy to prove to those who defended Mark Jackson as a great coach just how wrong they were.

Now we need to see GSW not go after Kerr too hard, he's likely only marginally better than MJ, and there are plenty of amazing coaches still available (albeit far smaller names).

Good job by the Pistons. To pull in a coach of his caliber they had to overpay and give too much control, but it's still easily a net+ over their prior situation.

I do not blame GSW for not wanting to give him total control. They are a contender, and hopefully they can land a comparable coaching talent.

Thanks for the kind words.

J4KOP99
05-14-2014, 08:18 AM
The nba is a better place when Ron Jeremy is in it.

D-Leethal
05-14-2014, 12:43 PM
Interesting to see a rebuilding team not ready to win now, with a ton of large contracts to shed and conceivably tank a year or 2, hire a Pres/Coach combo. You only really see it with rosters ready to compete out the gate. Coaches are always thinking "win now", every night they are thinking "win now", yet Presidents tend to think long term which often sacrifices the ability to "win now". Does Stan the Coach get angry at himself for gutting the team and tanking next year or does Stan the Pres. make short sighted moves to try and "win now" to avoid coaching a guaranteed lotto team for a few years.

j-bay
05-14-2014, 08:32 PM
It seems like Greg Monroe is gone

flea
05-14-2014, 10:09 PM
Lol at "he hasn't done much." Taking the Magic to the Finals with an already-a-step-slow Turkoglu as the 2nd best player was more than most coaches in the NBA could ever dream to do. Even if it was the East, it was better then that it is now and, IMO, it was a more impressive Finals run than Lebron's in Cleveland.

ManRam
05-15-2014, 11:54 AM
So is it safe to say Smith is gone?


Love the move for Detroit, Dwight had his best years under stan and I expect the same for drummond if this happens ...

But I saw Otis smith is a top choice at GM for stan and that sucks!

Otis always over paid big or got people past there prime or both

Arenas
Vince
Hedo
Baby Davis
Rashard Lewis(got paid Kobe money)
Chris duhon
That's just to name a few

I don't like Otis, but I do think people got a little carried away. I do hope Detroit doesn't sign him, for their sake. However, Detroit is in a very different situation than the Magic were when he was at the helm. We were right at that hump where we weren't quite a championship team, but were very close. He was thus tasked with turning a roster with few great assets (youth, draft picks, etc.) into a a contender...and all of it had to be in the short term. They went all in and desperately tried to shake things up because they knew their window was kinda shutting. It lead to a ton of lateral moves and a complete disregard for the future, but that's what the ownership/front office and even Dwight wanted. It just didn't work.

Arenas for Lewis didn't hurt the team at all because of the amnesty clause. It was a desperation move to change things up and maybe improve. Didn't work...didn't hurt tho.

The Vince Carter trade was actually great :shrug: Vince didn't live up to expectations, but we gave little up. Anderson was more valuable than Lee, and Alston and Battie were trash. And the Carter-Gortat-Pietrus for Richardson-Hedo-Clark trade was, again, just a lateral move.

Bass for Davis was pretty much a wash.

Lewis was overpaid, but without him we never make the Finals. He was an all-star at least. His contract only really hurt us later on, but again, because of the amnesty we got out of that before it (or Arenas') really would have killed us.

Duhon sucks, but every team needs back ups.


Look, I don't think Otis did a good job, but he still did oversee one of the 4-5 winningest franchises over a 5 year span there. It's just a rumor, I'm sure they can do better...but at the very least it doesn't sound like he'd have the same power he had in Orlando.


I'm excited for Detroit. I'm excited that he's willing to let Monroe go. Let Drummond man the 5 spot...don't ever let Smith play the 3, and your team is already improved.