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tm95835
05-06-2014, 04:39 AM
Bogut has had a rough time with injuries his whole career, with that awesome elbow break the beginning of his long stints on the sideline.

Before that he was playing well, really starting to come into his own with the bucks, averaged about 14, 11, 2 and 2 over his two best years there, then injuries which ultimately led the him going to the warriors. Good move for bogut I think

Basically, had bogut been able to keep healthy and get a good long run with a team what kind of player could he have been? What's his ceiling now?

Keep in mind bogut was the first pick in his draft

Goose17
05-06-2014, 04:52 AM
His ceiling was huge, when healthy he's still one of the top 4 or 5 defensive big men in the league.

Back when he was in Milwaukee in 2010 and 2011 he led the league in defensive plays. He was #1 in BPG and also in Charges drawn in 2011. That's an unreal combination of stats to be leading in.

Anyway, I think his ceiling was very high, the thing that has changed since the injuries is his offense, since he messed up that elbow his offense has never been the same.

tredigs
05-06-2014, 04:54 AM
Currently, he's still a top 5 rim protector along with a very good rebounder and passer. At 29, his future is still in his hands. Obviously losing him to a broken rib right as the playoffs started was a blow to the team and he will be considered a wasted project if it happens again next season.

That said - like I mentioned at the time of the Monta deal for him - anything we got from Bogut was going to be icing on the cake. Losing Ellis and allowing Curry + Klay to grow while adopting a defensive identity to the team was what brought Golden State from the depths of the league to a very tough playoff out.

MonroeFAN
05-06-2014, 09:06 AM
Not sure how he is anything "currently". The guy is blasted.

When he was playing, he was a great defensive center.

GiantsSwaGG
05-06-2014, 09:29 AM
He's made of glass

crewfan13
05-06-2014, 09:54 AM
Watching Bogut "develop" in Milwaukee, it became apparent that he was never going to be a very good offensive player. Even before the injuries, he was so wildly inconsistent on offense. His first few years, I think our coaching staff hurt his development. We never gave him the ball on the block. Once we finally started to go to him a few years into his Milwaukee tenure, he still hadn't developed much offensively. He basically would always turn into the lane and go with a baby hook with either hand. He got absolutely no air under it, and pretty much shot it like a laser at the hoop, so the margin for error was very small. He made a few, and had some hot nights, but the consistency was never going to be there. Plus, he had no midrange game to really speak of.

That being said, the rest of you are right that he basically was the ideal defensive anchor. He played really smart defensively. He blocked shots well, but wasn't like some guys who put up big block numbers and tried to block everything in sight. He picked his spots and stayed in position. He was never really a flashy defender and didn't get the big blocks that you send into the stands, but he got tips on a lot of shots. Great anchor, solid passer. He's never going to kill you on offense, because he's a pretty smart player, but he's never going to be a focal point of your offense, even during small stretches. But he'll cover a lot of defensive mistakes from others. Basically, though not as athletic, he could play the Tyson Chandler role on a team built like Dallas when they won their ring.