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IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 04:09 AM
Assumining all players are in there prime and at there very best, which team wins?

PG John Stockton
SG Eddie Jones
SF DR. J
PF Elton Brand
C Ben Wallace

vs


PG Russell Westbrook
SG Brandon Roy
SF Larry Johnson
PF Blake Griffin
C Shaq

Ebbs
04-29-2014, 04:11 AM
Put in Pettit you cheater

BRICKCITYPIMP12
04-29-2014, 04:19 AM
team shaq

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 04:20 AM
Put in Pettit you cheater


WOW! One guy says start pettit, and one guys says cheater for starting Blake. Are y'all working together? Getting really funny now.

Please tell me how its cheating to start a guy over another who are both on the squad? Can't wait to here this.

Method28
04-29-2014, 04:21 AM
The team with prime Shaq

tredigs
04-29-2014, 04:30 AM
First team is built better - really has no holes - but that's a lot of firepower coming at you with team B.

Elton + prime Ben is such a filthy defensive combo, though. And Stockton is would just mind-**** Westbrook all day. I really don't like him as a point guard on that roster, despite all that he could offer to certain teams.

Shaq with that much talent around him is probably too much to overcome in a 7 game series, but it's close enough that benches and coaching would make the difference.

Signed, last years co-champ of All-Time Redraft

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 04:42 AM
First team is built better - really has no holes - but that's a lot of firepower coming at you with team B.

Elton + prime Ben is such a filthy defensive combo, though. And Stockton is would just mind-**** Westbrook all day. I really don't like him as a point guard on that roster, despite all that he could offer to certain teams.

Shaq with that much talent around him is probably too much to overcome in a 7 game series, but it's close enough that benches and coaching would make the difference.

Signed, last years co-champ of All-Time Redraft

What do you think of Bob pettit, and George Mikan off the bench?

Method28
04-29-2014, 04:49 AM
First team is built better - really has no holes - but that's a lot of firepower coming at you with team B.

Elton + prime Ben is such a filthy defensive combo, though. And Stockton is would just mind-**** Westbrook all day. I really don't like him as a point guard on that roster, despite all that he could offer to certain teams.

Shaq with that much talent around him is probably too much to overcome in a 7 game series, but it's close enough that benches and coaching would make the difference.

Signed, last years co-champ of All-Time Redraft

What do you think of Bob pettit, and George Mikan off the bench?

I just don't see anyone that could stretch the court on team A as well.

tredigs
04-29-2014, 04:54 AM
What do you think of Bob pettit, and George Mikan off the bench?

LOVE Pettit, I'd actually start him on that roster with how impressive his jumper allegedly became in his prime and what a great position rebounder he was. Also, all the leadership intangibles you could ask for. If anyone could put a kid like Westbrook in check, it would probably be him. Though I still don't like Westbrook with that lineup. A true PG who could also score and stretch the floor like Mark Price could be awesome with them (I realize you can't always get what you want).

Mikan I'm not sure, I just don't know enough about his game other than he was the first great big/Laker and that the man knew how to dominate and win. Definitely a plus on any roster, but if we're not allowing for a hypothetical "era correction" and they're just zapped from their current time to today with no acclimation, he'd probably struggle a bit on the court (could be wrong). Pettit on the other hand I think would have a quick uptake and be a premier PF in this league even today.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 05:02 AM
LOVE Pettit, I'd actually start him on that roster with how impressive his jumper allegedly became in his prime and what a great position rebounder he was. Also, all the leadership intangibles you could ask for. If anyone could put a kid like Westbrook in check, it would probably be him. Though I still don't like Westbrook with that lineup. A true PG who could also score and stretch the floor like Mark Price could be awesome with them (I realize you can't always get what you want).

Mikan I'm not sure, I just don't know enough about his game other than he was the first great big/Laker and that the man knew how to dominate and win. Definitely a plus on any roster, but if we're not allowing for a hypothetical "era correction" and they're just zapped from their current time to today with no acclimation, he'd probably struggle a bit on the court (could be wrong). Pettit on the other hand I think would have a quick uptake and be a premier PF in this league even today.

Good to know, Appreciate the comments. Unfortunately the guys who decide who wins and looses have no knowledge of Pettit.

KnicksorBust
04-29-2014, 07:25 AM
Great job. :clap: Now everybody in the redraft who wants to complain should post their team and potential match-ups in the main forum and clog it up fishing for compliments. What a joke.

/close thread

Ebbs
04-29-2014, 07:53 AM
Lol not sure what this proves is he lines up against Shammy?

I never said he had the worst team

DallasTrilla23
04-29-2014, 09:46 AM
Team1 lol

Team shaq has too many players that need the ball.

MrfadeawayJB
04-29-2014, 09:46 AM
Shaqs team is just too athletic

Chronz
04-29-2014, 10:53 AM
Ifeel like you tried really hard to construct a roster that Shaq could lose with. I still favor talent but there is no question on which team I feel will maximize their potential.

Matter.
04-29-2014, 11:05 AM
is this against the rules or something?

Ebbs
04-29-2014, 11:17 AM
No but it's idiotic

Sadds The Gr8
04-29-2014, 12:15 PM
U posted a possible matchup? Wtf?

The_Jamal
04-29-2014, 12:20 PM
What a GD clown

phlp_bj
04-29-2014, 12:22 PM
Ifeel like you tried really hard to construct a roster that Shaq could lose with. I still favor talent but there is no question on which team I feel will maximize their potential.

x2

Shammyguy3
04-29-2014, 12:35 PM
I just don't see anyone that could stretch the court on team A as well.

Not to get too much into this, but Stockton is a career 38.4% shooter from behind the arc. He's shot over 40% 7 times in his career. Eddie Jones is a career 37.3% shooter from behind the arc while taking over 4 a game. Elton Brand is also a reliable threat in the pick and pop game.

But wtf is this thread doing here? :laugh: dear lord, Ebbs, i'm shocked he didn't pick your team to compare lol

Ebbs
04-29-2014, 12:38 PM
I just don't see anyone that could stretch the court on team A as well.

Not to get too much into this, but Stockton is a career 38.4% shooter from behind the arc. He's shot over 40% 7 times in his career. Eddie Jones is a career 37.3% shooter from behind the arc while taking over 4 a game. Elton Brand is also a reliable threat in the pick and pop game.

But wtf is this thread doing here? :laugh: dear lord, Ebbs, i'm shocked he didn't pick your team to compare lol

Knew he'd lose that epically lol

Shammyguy3
04-29-2014, 12:47 PM
Yeah that must've been the only reason. I also like how he inserted Griffin for voters appeal, and didn't explain what the ATRD defines as proper voting requirements, you know the whole 3-prime years thing.

PatsSoxKnicks
04-29-2014, 02:18 PM
Ifeel like you tried really hard to construct a roster that Shaq could lose with. I still favor talent but there is no question on which team I feel will maximize their potential.

x3

PatsSoxKnicks
04-29-2014, 02:20 PM
Not to get too much into this, but Stockton is a career 38.4% shooter from behind the arc. He's shot over 40% 7 times in his career. Eddie Jones is a career 37.3% shooter from behind the arc while taking over 4 a game. Elton Brand is also a reliable threat in the pick and pop game.

But wtf is this thread doing here? :laugh: dear lord, Ebbs, i'm shocked he didn't pick your team to compare lol

Or my team but he didn't even bother replying to any of my posts in the lounge.

valade16
04-29-2014, 04:26 PM
I think Westbrook is literally the worst PG to pair with Shaq. Seriously, can anyone name a good PG who would be worse?

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 07:20 PM
hhahahahahaha, Man, I ask for people who aren't in the league's opinion then this happens. Wow its just a question? Why so butt hurt, this is so funny.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 07:21 PM
Everyone playing says shammy, everyone not playing says Shaq. Weird.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 07:22 PM
What a GD clown

For asking an opinion of non gms with vested interests? Wow, get your medicine and chill.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 07:24 PM
Knew he'd lose that epically lol

Not at all, your next.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 07:27 PM
All the people that are in the all time redraft who posted in here to dog this post, just show how ridiculously insecure you are? I don't have a GM, I wanted to get opinions from guys who have no vested interest and aren't guzzling each other. Whats so bad about that? Why are you so sensitive. Why so mad? Why is it idiotic? I didn't use names? I didn't try and throw anyone under the bus, I just wanted to see a broader range of thoughts. No reason to get all hostile. Still hilarious though.

KnicksorBust
04-29-2014, 07:49 PM
All the people that are in the all time redraft who posted in here to dog this post, just show how ridiculously insecure you are? I don't have a GM, I wanted to get opinions from guys who have no vested interest and aren't guzzling each other. Whats so bad about that? Why are you so sensitive. Why so mad? Why is it idiotic? I didn't use names? I didn't try and throw anyone under the bus, I just wanted to see a broader range of thoughts. No reason to get all hostile. Still hilarious though.

Then PM a couple people that you respect in the main forum and ask their opinion. Do you realize how obnoxious it would be if the 23 teams in the league all did what you did and posted their teams in main forum and created fake match-ups?

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 07:52 PM
Then PM a couple people that you respect in the main forum and ask their opinion. Do you realize how obnoxious it would be if the 23 teams in the league all did what you did and posted their teams in main forum and created fake match-ups?

Explain this?

Matter.
04-29-2014, 08:21 PM
Knew he'd lose that epically lol

Not at all, your next.

Can't touch me brah

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 08:41 PM
Can't touch me brah

I'd come at ya, but the thread would just get trolled on an epic level. Again.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 08:43 PM
Assumining all players are in there prime and at there very best, which team wins?

PG John Stockton
SG Eddie Jones
SF DR. J
PF Elton Brand
C Ben Wallace

vs


PG Russell Westbrook
SG Brandon Roy
SF Larry Johnson
PF Blake Griffin
C Shaq

Any non GM's want to give an honest opinion?

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 11:35 PM
Ifeel like you tried really hard to construct a roster that Shaq could lose with. I still favor talent but there is no question on which team I feel will maximize their potential.

Hey Chronz, I feel you, but I also favor talent. I remember when mike miller, Richard Jefferson, and Michael redd were on the dream team for "fit". They got mollywhopped. Because talent can adjust, where as fit with less talented players cannot. Just because a #1 option is known for balling out doesn't mean he can't take a lesser role and play off better players. In fact I would say #1 options make better role players than actual role players because they are simply more talented. I drafted players that have been role players on dream teams, not regular teams.

IKnowHoops
04-29-2014, 11:53 PM
And shaq,Duncan,Hakeem never played with facilitators. They won with other scorers. And shaqs magic had great spacing, with Scott and Anderson and won nada. They had more talent in la and beat many teams that had elite spacing, Sacramento and Dallas for example.

Westbrook doesn't need to set up Shaq, he needs to be able to score off of shaq, and defend his man and that's what all my guys can do, score off shaq when he draws the guaranteed double and triple teams.

Shaq is a walking double team. There is always someone on him. You don't need a facilitator specialist to get him easier shots, your better off having elite scoring around him and just play inside out all game long and when Shaq gets the double your elite scorer will score easier and more efficiently than any facilitator or role player.