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Sadds The Gr8
04-09-2014, 03:15 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/howard-stern-rips-jeff-van-gundy-over-criticism-for-leaving-knicks-game-early-040814


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIO2dYl56s

5ass
04-09-2014, 03:43 AM
Stern is scum. Always hated that ****er.

sunsfan88
04-09-2014, 03:44 AM
Lol the only thing Howard Stern's been #1 for is for bringing in pornstars and having them ride the masterbating machine.

Asik's better
04-09-2014, 05:06 AM
I don't like it when daddy and daddy fight. Can't people I like get along?

tredigs
04-09-2014, 05:23 AM
I don't like it when daddy and daddy fight. Can't people I like get along?

Haha, reminded me of when Adam Carolla and Kevin Smith got into it over some business and had a public argument. And yeah, agreed. JVG was obviously in the wrong, and it's no big surprise that Stern used his million member audience to lay into him for it. It's a ****ing blowout lame Knick game, anyway. Who cares who stays or goes?

Gibby
04-09-2014, 06:40 AM
It amazes me how Howard Stern got this famous. Hate Robin Quivers even more. There are some talented people on that show but the rest are a bunch of Yes Men.

mudvayne387
04-09-2014, 07:42 AM
Howard Stern is an entertainment icon. Love him or hate him, there's no denying he is a genius.

AddiX
04-09-2014, 08:13 AM
This is actually weak compared to what the old Howard use to do to people.

jimm120
04-09-2014, 09:39 AM
Anyone care to elaborate? I'm at work and can't listen in.

Jetsguy
04-09-2014, 09:42 AM
Opie and Anthony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

colinskik
04-09-2014, 10:01 AM
Stern is the best and he's right about this. Game was over way before he even left.

ManRam
04-09-2014, 10:04 AM
I love Jeff, don't care for Howard...but Howard's right (well, I didn't listen to the clip). If you wanna leave, ****ing leave. You paid for the seats, you can do whatever you want.

king4day
04-09-2014, 10:41 AM
Lotta hate in here for Stern. I've been following him for years. Stern is right, people leave early all the time. I'm sure he wasn't the only one who left early too. But he's a big name so he's singled out.

And Stern got his fame from the controversial guests and activities he's had people do in studio but he's a brilliant interviewer. Rarely does he have pornstars on the show. The guy is a genius but many people just assume he is who he was and never changed.

Van Gundy attacked him for no reason. He should have known that would get back to him. So that's what he gets for it.

JasonJohnHorn
04-09-2014, 10:48 AM
Well... Stern have a few hours to fill every day... so....

TheIlladelph16
04-09-2014, 10:53 AM
Howard Stern is still the man. I like Jeff Van Gundy too, but he sounds like an idiot here. You can leave whenever the **** you want if you bought the ticket.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 10:53 AM
To me, Stern is turning a non-issue into an issue. It's a blowout loss, and the announcers have to have something to talk about. Van Gundy said something on air that he probably didn't think was that big of a deal, and the guy has a valid point. Stern took this **** way too far, and I'm disgusted with his treatment of Van Gundy. The guy is just famous because he goes for shock value, but his immature, sophomoric excuse for a radio show doesn't deserve to be spoken in the same breath as a classy, successful guy like Van Gundy, who not only had a successful coaching career but continues to be one of the best announcers in the business.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 10:56 AM
Also, I find it pretty pathetic that the guy ripped on Van Gundy, who took the Knicks as far as the team has gone since the 70s. And he didn't know anything about the guy's career. Stern is so clearly a casual NBA fan, and if wants to be a casual NBA fan, get casual NBA fan seats and don't sit in the front row.

D_Rose1118
04-09-2014, 10:59 AM
Anyone care to elaborate? I'm at work and can't listen in.

JVG got on Stern for leaving the knicks game early, Stern verbally harasses him about being #1 for the next 3 min. Cites that JVG is a loser and has never won anything, while he has been #1 throughout his whole career.

He sounds like a fool if you ask me.

mudvayne387
04-09-2014, 11:08 AM
To me, Stern is turning a non-issue into an issue. It's a blowout loss, and the announcers have to have something to talk about. Van Gundy said something on air that he probably didn't think was that big of a deal, and the guy has a valid point. Stern took this **** way too far, and I'm disgusted with his treatment of Van Gundy. The guy is just famous because he goes for shock value, but his immature, sophomoric excuse for a radio show doesn't deserve to be spoken in the same breath as a classy, successful guy like Van Gundy, who not only had a successful coaching career but continues to be one of the best announcers in the business.

HAHA !!!

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Stern goes for shock value ? He is one of the best interviewers of all time. College communication major's study is strategy because they know he is the best in the business.

Meanwhile, JVG looked real classy hanging off of ZO' leg and then quitting on his team.

colinskik
04-09-2014, 11:10 AM
Also, I find it pretty pathetic that the guy ripped on Van Gundy, who took the Knicks as far as the team has gone since the 70s. And he didn't know anything about the guy's career. Stern is so clearly a casual NBA fan, and if wants to be a casual NBA fan, get casual NBA fan seats and don't sit in the front row.

Hate to break it to you, but the front row seats are more often than not for the casual fans. Real fans don't have the money to sit up there.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 11:13 AM
HAHA !!!

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Stern goes for shock value ? He is one of the best interviewers of all time. College communication major's study is strategy because they know he is the best in the business.

Meanwhile, JVG looked real classy hanging off of ZO' leg and then quitting on his team.

People don't tune into his shows for interviews. They turn into his shows for the lewd antics. And I find it hard to take anybody seriously who treats people the way the way he does on air. It's pathetic, it's unprofessional, and as a journalist, I'm ashamed to have someone like that in our industry.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 11:17 AM
Hate to break it to you, but the front row seats are more often than not for the casual fans. Real fans don't have the money to sit up there.

I'm aware of that. And I know that celebrities and the 1 percent are more likely going to be the ones to sit in those seats. But Van Gundy still makes a valid point. If I had those seats, I'd be staying until the very end of that game, because that's an incredible privilege that the wealthy take for granted. Do I understand that people have time constraints and the game was a total blowout? Sure, and I can understand why the guy had to leave early. But that doesn't mean Van Gundy's point doesn't have some validity or that he deserved the horrible treatment Stern gave him on the air. Not at all.

mudvayne387
04-09-2014, 11:17 AM
People don't tune into his shows for interviews. They turn into his shows for the lewd antics. And I find it hard to take anybody seriously who treats people the way the way he does on air. It's pathetic, it's unprofessional, and as a journalist, I'm ashamed to have someone like that in our industry.

People don't tune in for the interviews ?

That's odd, because everyone I know who listens to the show does so for that reason alone. When you have some of the biggest names in sports, politics, and in the entertainment industry in general spilling their guts about things they wouldn't think of sharing anywhere else, you know you are doing something right.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 11:22 AM
People don't tune in for the interviews ?

That's odd, because everyone I know who listens to the show does so for that reason alone. When you have some of the biggest names in sports, politics, and in the entertainment industry in general spilling their guts about things they wouldn't think of sharing anywhere else, you know you are doing something right.

But at some point you have to ask yourself if those celebrities want to go on his show because they respect him as a journalist or because the guy gets good ratings. And he didn't get famous for his journalistic integrity. He got famous for being a gigantic ******* who was willing to do anything on television or radio. He's a media whore in every sense of the word. And while I've always respected the guy for his willingness to break barriers on censorship, I've always found his antics to be a pretty childish, pathetic cry for attention.

Sadds The Gr8
04-09-2014, 11:38 AM
Van Gundy is usually half tongue and cheek when he does rants so I don't know how serious he was. Coulda been joking

J4KOP99
04-09-2014, 11:38 AM
Whenever the topic of Howard stern comes up, you get a lot of people commenting that have clearly never heard his show.

TheIlladelph16
04-09-2014, 11:39 AM
But at some point you have to ask yourself if those celebrities want to go on his show because they respect him as a journalist or because the guy gets good ratings. And he didn't get famous for his journalistic integrity. He got famous for being a gigantic ******* who was willing to do anything on television or radio. He's a media whore in every sense of the word. And while I've always respected the guy for his willingness to break barriers on censorship, I've always found his antics to be a pretty childish, pathetic cry for attention.

Honestly, have you ever listened to some of his interviews? It really seems like you haven't. He's a master at interviewing people on his show. How does the reason they went on the show in any way diminish that?

pacofunk64
04-09-2014, 11:52 AM
Howard Stern is the king of talk radio. Ya he comes off as an arrogant ******* but that's what gets his ratings. He's not like anyone else. He's in his right to bash JVG as JVG shouldn't assume why someone had to leave early.

jp611
04-09-2014, 11:59 AM
:laugh2:

I love both of these guys.

mdm692
04-09-2014, 12:01 PM
I'm aware of that. And I know that celebrities and the 1 percent are more likely going to be the ones to sit in those seats. But Van Gundy still makes a valid point. If I had those seats, I'd be staying until the very end of that game, because that's an incredible privilege that the wealthy take for granted. Do I understand that people have time constraints and the game was a total blowout? Sure, and I can understand why the guy had to leave early. But that doesn't mean Van Gundy's point doesn't have some validity or that he deserved the horrible treatment Stern gave him on the air. Not at all.
JVG does not have a point. If your team is garbage then you shouldn't be forced to watch that train wreck for 4 quarters. Hell they should be refunding people for such mediocre performances. The people, whether casual nba or not, are the ones paying the ticket they can do whatever the heck they want with it. Who the **** is JVG to say "no you can't leave". And you can talk **** about Stern and his antics but the #'s back him up.

mdm692
04-09-2014, 12:08 PM
But at some point you have to ask yourself if those celebrities want to go on his show because they respect him as a journalist or because the guy gets good ratings. And he didn't get famous for his journalistic integrity. He got famous for being a gigantic ******* who was willing to do anything on television or radio. He's a media whore in every sense of the word. And while I've always respected the guy for his willingness to break barriers on censorship, I've always found his antics to be a pretty childish, pathetic cry for attention.

I'm not a hardcore fan of his show but even the common fan knows Stern is more than just the lewd antics. Yes they were a big part of his success but to try to discredit everything else is stupid. I don't know if it's the Van Gundy connection with Hou and that's why your defending him but under no circumstances should JVG have any say on what people do with their seats.

ztilzer31
04-09-2014, 12:11 PM
Van Gundy was just mad he had to stay and watch.

Honestly who gives a ****. He payed for a ticket, and left early. I've left games early countless amounts of times. Mainly baseball games that are running late, and I have work in the morning.

I think Stern is overreacting, but Van Gundy is being a complete douchebag like usual.

COOLbeans
04-09-2014, 12:14 PM
Howard > Van gundy

Lil Rhody
04-09-2014, 12:23 PM
Opie and Anthony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



Jason Ellis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jetsguy
04-09-2014, 12:30 PM
Jason Ellis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ew no way

FOBolous
04-09-2014, 12:37 PM
I remember stern use to get non pornstars to ride the sybian. I think he got Carmen Electra to ride it once. He needs to do that again. Getting pornstars to ride the sybian isn't anything special cause they do more on a daily basis.

airforceones25
04-09-2014, 12:42 PM
I'm aware of that. And I know that celebrities and the 1 percent are more likely going to be the ones to sit in those seats. But Van Gundy still makes a valid point. If I had those seats, I'd be staying until the very end of that game, because that's an incredible privilege that the wealthy take for granted. Do I understand that people have time constraints and the game was a total blowout? Sure, and I can understand why the guy had to leave early. But that doesn't mean Van Gundy's point doesn't have some validity or that he deserved the horrible treatment Stern gave him on the air. Not at all.

For one you're not a celebrity or somebody important so of course you'll stay. You have no idea what's going on in their daily lives. They don't have the typical 9-5 like many Americans. It's completely ridiculous to compare yourselves to them when the only thing you have in common is that you are both breathing individuals. Lol

Also I enjoy JVG commentary as it brings an entertainment flair along with knowledge of the game. That being said he was extremely ridiculous to have choice words for Stern but let both Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler leave with no ill sentiments at the Laker Thunders game awhile back.

Here is the video..

http://youtu.be/6BOVEDDXchk

jp611
04-09-2014, 01:03 PM
For one you're not a celebrity or somebody important so of course you'll stay. You have no idea what's going on in their daily lives. They don't have the typical 9-5 like many Americans. It's completely ridiculous to compare yourselves to them when the only thing you have in common is that you are both breathing individuals. Lol

Also I enjoy JVG commentary as it brings an entertainment flair along with knowledge of the game. That being said he was extremely ridiculous to have choice words for Stern but let both Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler leave with no ill sentiments at the Laker Thunders game awhile back.

Here is the video..

http://youtu.be/6BOVEDDXchk

:laugh2:

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 01:10 PM
JVG does not have a point. If your team is garbage then you shouldn't be forced to watch that train wreck for 4 quarters. Hell they should be refunding people for such mediocre performances. The people, whether casual nba or not, are the ones paying the ticket they can do whatever the heck they want with it. Who the **** is JVG to say "no you can't leave". And you can talk **** about Stern and his antics but the #'s back him up.
First off, I never said I agreed with Van Gundy's point. I'm saying that there is some validity to it, and what he said did not remotely warrant the horrid response that Stern gave on his show. Personally, I agree that if you pay for the ticket, you should leave whenever the hell you feel like it, especially if the product your team is producing is total crap. I was just saying that if I was ever lucky enough to get tickets that good, I personally wouldn't leave.

I'm not a hardcore fan of his show but even the common fan knows Stern is more than just the lewd antics. Yes they were a big part of his success but to try to discredit everything else is stupid. I don't know if it's the Van Gundy connection with Hou and that's why your defending him but under no circumstances should JVG have any say on what people do with their seats.
So what? Just because the guy can do a decent interview gives him the right to completely trash someone on the air and act like a complete ****ing ******* over some random, off the cuff comment made at the end of a blowout basketball game? I can do a decent interview. That doesn't give me the right to trash somebody the way he did or act the way he does. The guy goes out of his way to be offensive for shock value, and I have a hard time respecting that.

For one you're not a celebrity or somebody important so of course you'll stay. You have no idea what's going on in their daily lives. They don't have the typical 9-5 like many Americans. It's completely ridiculous to compare yourselves to them when the only thing you have in common is that you are both breathing individuals. Lol

Also I enjoy JVG commentary as it brings an entertainment flair along with knowledge of the game. That being said he was extremely ridiculous to have choice words for Stern but let both Jack Nicholson and Adam Sandler leave with no ill sentiments at the Laker Thunders game awhile back.
Let's drop the "you can't compare yourselves to celebrities" argument, because that's really a moot point. I don't agree with Van Gundy's statement. I was just saying that if I was every lucky enough to get seats that good, I would stay for the whole game, and the wealthy take luxuries like that for granted. I have no doubt that he's not the only celebrity who's ever left a basketball game early, but anybody who buys a ticket has the right to leave whenever he/she wants to.

Bruno
04-09-2014, 01:16 PM
Howard Stern is still the man. I like Jeff Van Gundy too, but he sounds like an idiot here. You can leave whenever the **** you want if you bought the ticket.

i can't watch the video now but thats what I think. Davis Stern is awesome, but probably wrong here.

i also like JVG very much.

kdspurman
04-09-2014, 01:17 PM
Was JVG even serious? Or did Stern get too sensitive

Bruno
04-09-2014, 01:17 PM
Whenever the topic of Howard stern comes up, you get a lot of people commenting that have clearly never heard his show.

they comment based off what they think they know about stern. stern is excellent and one of the most important faces in radio and freedom of speech. he challenged the system and anyone who does that is an ace in my book.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 01:17 PM
I don't know if it's the Van Gundy connection with Hou and that's why your defending him but under no circumstances should JVG have any say on what people do with their seats.
To address this point specifically, I'll admit that I'm a little biased in this argument because I'm a Van Gundy fan and not much of a Howard Stern supporter. That being said, I'm not necessarily defending what Van Gundy said. Frankly, he probably shouldn't have said it in the first place. However, it's not that crazy of a point and it was clearly off the cuff and not made to take any personal shots at Stern. Meanwhile, Stern clearly went out of his way to make some personal, cheap shots at Van Gundy that went too far.

My point is the original comment did not warrant that severe a response. That's like someone getting a $10,000 fine and six months in prison for a speeding ticket.

Bruno
04-09-2014, 01:18 PM
Was JVG even serious? Or did Stern get too sensitive

stern is very sensitive. when you get a minute google howard stern of comedians in cars getting coffee. great 15 minute clip with Jerry.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 01:20 PM
Whenever the topic of Howard stern comes up, you get a lot of people commenting that have clearly never heard his show.

And for the record, I have heard and watched Stern's show several times. I used to listen and watch often when I was in college, and there was often a lot of solid substance there. But the man still takes things too far.

amak316
04-09-2014, 01:36 PM
First off, I never said I agreed with Van Gundy's point. I'm saying that there is some validity to it, and what he said did not remotely warrant the horrid response that Stern gave on his show.

His point is really thin, I mean what if Stern had to leave on a family emergency. Certainly there are millions of beyond valid reasons to leave a f'ing basketball game that someone doesn't deserved to be called out for.

Also if you are going to call someone out, do it privately where they can explain themselves, it's cowardice to do it on national TV. If that is the route you choose, you better expect a harsh rebuttal. If that is the route you choose and the subject is a person with a 3hr DAILY (inter?)national talk show with a reputation for dealing with zero ******** and has a passion for ranting, well let's just say Jeff is lucky he didn't run into a younger Howard.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 01:42 PM
His point is really thin, I mean what if Stern had to leave on a family emergency. Certainly there are millions of beyond valid reasons to leave a f'ing basketball game that someone doesn't deserved to be called out for.
Obviously there are reasons to leave a basketball game early. I addressed this already and said I agree with it. But Stern was not leaving for a medical or family emergency, and even the reason he gave for leaving was bogus. The NY Daily News is reporting that Stern didn't even have a live show the next day, so if that's his excuse, it doesn't sound like a legitimate one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/hear-howard-stern-tears-jeff-van-gundy-article-1.1750000


Also if you are going to call someone out, do it privately where they can explain themselves, it's cowardice to do it on national TV. If that is the route you choose, you better expect a harsh rebuttal. If that is the route you choose and the subject is a person with a 3hr DAILY (inter?)national talk show with a reputation for dealing with zero ******** and has a passion for ranting, well let's just say Jeff is lucky he didn't run into a younger Howard.
C'mon, man. Really? How many blowout basketball games have you watched until the end? The announcers inevitably get bored and find something to talk about other than the awful game they're witnessing. More often than not, the crowd will get brought into it, and someone will bring up celebrities they see in the audience. Hell, Van Gundy wasn't even the person who noticed Stern in the first place. He just gave his random opinion to something that shouldn't have been that big of a deal to begin with. Should he probably not have said that? Sure. But Howard Stern should have thicker skin than this, and should act like a ****ing adult. If he wanted to call out Van Gundy's comments and take a quick jab at the guy, that's fine, but he acted like a ****ing child on air. It was kind of pathetic.

amak316
04-09-2014, 01:51 PM
Obviously there are reasons to leave a basketball game early. I addressed this already and said I agree with it. But Stern was not leaving for a medical or family emergency, and even the reason he gave for leaving was bogus. The NY Daily News is reporting that Stern didn't even have a live show the next day, so if that's his excuse, it doesn't sound like a legitimate one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/hear-howard-stern-tears-jeff-van-gundy-article-1.1750000


C'mon, man. Really? How many blowout basketball games have you watched until the end? The announcers inevitably get bored and find something to talk about other than the awful game they're witnessing. More often than not, the crowd will get brought into it, and someone will bring up celebrities they see in the audience. Hell, Van Gundy wasn't even the person who noticed Stern in the first place. He just gave his random opinion to something that shouldn't have been that big of a deal to begin with. Should he probably not have said that? Sure. But Howard Stern should have thicker skin than this, and should act like a ****ing adult. If he wanted to call out Van Gundy's comments and take a quick jab at the guy, that's fine, but he acted like a ****ing child on air. It was kind of pathetic.

I'm not saying everyone should respond the way Howard did, or that sort of response is even appropriate.

However if I had 3hrs of dead airtime to fill, a fan base who has responded extremely positively to similar rants in the past, and was a little annoyed with the guy making an example of me when leaving early in a blowout is extremely commonplace I would do the same. It's not like Howard started this fight, and Jeff had to know what he was getting into calling out Howard f'ing Stern.

lakerfan85
04-09-2014, 01:52 PM
People don't tune into his shows for interviews. They turn into his shows for the lewd antics. And I find it hard to take anybody seriously who treats people the way the way he does on air. It's pathetic, it's unprofessional, and as a journalist, I'm ashamed to have someone like that in our industry.

You couldn't be more wrong...

amak316
04-09-2014, 01:54 PM
If you poke a bear you take the consequences. Is getting your head ripped off for a poke an appropriate punishment? Probably not, but you poked a f***ing bear.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 02:02 PM
You couldn't be more wrong...
Addressed this already. Don't cherry pick comments, and try to keep up with the group.

If you poke a bear you take the consequences. Is getting your head ripped off for a poke an appropriate punishment? Probably not, but you poked a f***ing bear.
But it wasn't a bear. Stern's a grown *** man, and he should know better than to react that way to something that wasn't that big of a deal. Except he never does, because he's Howard Stern, and everyone just accepts the fact that he's a gigantic *** and let's him get away with it.

mdm692
04-09-2014, 02:02 PM
To address this point specifically, I'll admit that I'm a little biased in this argument because I'm a Van Gundy fan and not much of a Howard Stern supporter. That being said, I'm not necessarily defending what Van Gundy said. Frankly, he probably shouldn't have said it in the first place. However, it's not that crazy of a point and it was clearly off the cuff and not made to take any personal shots at Stern. Meanwhile, Stern clearly went out of his way to make some personal, cheap shots at Van Gundy that went too far.

My point is the original comment did not warrant that severe a response. That's like someone getting a $10,000 fine and six months in prison for a speeding ticket.

Like it was brought up previously though he "attacked" Stern first but gave a pass to Sandler and Jack in LA. He singled out Stern that was the problem.

lakerfan85
04-09-2014, 02:04 PM
Obviously there are reasons to leave a basketball game early. I addressed this already and said I agree with it. But Stern was not leaving for a medical or family emergency, and even the reason he gave for leaving was bogus. The NY Daily News is reporting that Stern didn't even have a live show the next day, so if that's his excuse, it doesn't sound like a legitimate one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/hear-howard-stern-tears-jeff-van-gundy-article-1.1750000


C'mon, man. Really? How many blowout basketball games have you watched until the end? The announcers inevitably get bored and find something to talk about other than the awful game they're witnessing. More often than not, the crowd will get brought into it, and someone will bring up celebrities they see in the audience. Hell, Van Gundy wasn't even the person who noticed Stern in the first place. He just gave his random opinion to something that shouldn't have been that big of a deal to begin with. Should he probably not have said that? Sure. But Howard Stern should have thicker skin than this, and should act like a ****ing adult. If he wanted to call out Van Gundy's comments and take a quick jab at the guy, that's fine, but he acted like a ****ing child on air. It was kind of pathetic.

You must love you some Jeff Van Gundy!!

lakerfan85
04-09-2014, 02:06 PM
Addressed this already. Don't cherry pick comments, and try to keep up with the group.

But it wasn't a bear. Stern's a grown *** man, and he should know better than to react that way to something that wasn't that big of a deal. Except he never does, because he's Howard Stern, and everyone just accepts the fact that he's a gigantic *** and let's him get away with it.

I'll ****ing respond to whatever I want... Just because you don't have a ****ing clue as to what you're talking about doesn't mean you can be a complete *** to people on here..

lakerfan85
04-09-2014, 02:08 PM
Addressed this already. Don't cherry pick comments, and try to keep up with the group.

But it wasn't a bear. Stern's a grown *** man, and he should know better than to react that way to something that wasn't that big of a deal. Except he never does, because he's Howard Stern, and everyone just accepts the fact that he's a gigantic *** and let's him get away with it.

You act like he tried to murder Van Gundy.. Jesus ****ing Christ man!!

Apophis
04-09-2014, 02:14 PM
LMFAO.. HOWARD STERN RULES!!!

That was funny as hell.. Wish I heard it live..

mdm692
04-09-2014, 02:15 PM
Obviously there are reasons to leave a basketball game early. I addressed this already and said I agree with it. But Stern was not leaving for a medical or family emergency, and even the reason he gave for leaving was bogus. The NY Daily News is reporting that Stern didn't even have a live show the next day, so if that's his excuse, it doesn't sound like a legitimate one:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/hear-howard-stern-tears-jeff-van-gundy-article-1.1750000


C'mon, man. Really? How many blowout basketball games have you watched until the end? The announcers inevitably get bored and find something to talk about other than the awful game they're witnessing. More often than not, the crowd will get brought into it, and someone will bring up celebrities they see in the audience. Hell, Van Gundy wasn't even the person who noticed Stern in the first place. He just gave his random opinion to something that shouldn't have been that big of a deal to begin with. Should he probably not have said that? Sure. But Howard Stern should have thicker skin than this, and should act like a ****ing adult. If he wanted to call out Van Gundy's comments and take a quick jab at the guy, that's fine, but he acted like a ****ing child on air. It was kind of pathetic.

Just because he doesn't have a show doesn't mean he didn't have other things to do. He just doesn't go to the booth do his show and then have the rest of the day off. There's meetings, planning and many business related issues we probably have 0 knowledge on. And just because you get bored of the game doesn't mean you should single out celebrities and make stupid statements. How about instead they call out the Knicks for such a horrible team or the NBA for showing favoritism in the playoffs. All we are trying to tell you is that he called him out first. The response might of been over the top but it's not like he started it. And since you said Stern is a professional and should have had thicker skin well guess what JVG is also a professional and he should of kept his stupid pointless comments to himself. You can't expect to criticize a man that strongly believes in freedom of speech and holding nothing back without any consequences. It's Howard freaking Stern everybody knows he doesn't take **** from no one even if its something meaningless.

lakerfan85
04-09-2014, 02:18 PM
Just because he doesn't have a show doesn't mean he didn't have other things to do. He just doesn't go to the booth do his show and then have the rest of the day off. There's meetings, planning and many business related issues we probably have 0 knowledge on. And just because you get bored of the game doesn't mean you should single out celebrities and make stupid statements. How about instead they call out the Knicks for such a horrible team or the NBA for showing favoritism in the playoffs. All we are trying to tell you is that he called him out first. The response might of been over the top but it's not like he started it. And since you said Stern is a professional and should have had thicker skin well guess what JVG is also a professional and he should of kept his stupid pointless comments to himself. You can't expect to criticize a man that strongly believes in freedom of speech and holding nothing back without any consequences. It's Howard freaking Stern everybody knows he doesn't take **** from no one even if its something meaningless.

Agree 100%... Well said..

mdm692
04-09-2014, 02:20 PM
Addressed this already. Don't cherry pick comments, and try to keep up with the group.

But it wasn't a bear. Stern's a grown *** man, and he should know better than to react that way to something that wasn't that big of a deal. Except he never does, because he's Howard Stern, and everyone just accepts the fact that he's a gigantic *** and let's him get away with it.
Let's put it like this. You and me are eating at a restaurant. We both pay for our meals you don't tip and I call you out in front of everyone in the restaurant and say you shouldn't be allowed to eat there ever again for being a cheapskate. If you're there getting attacked in front of a live audience then it is human nature to defend yourself even if it's a simple "mind your business".

tredigs
04-09-2014, 02:21 PM
Addressed this already. Don't cherry pick comments, and try to keep up with the group.

But it wasn't a bear. Stern's a grown *** man, and he should know better than to react that way to something that wasn't that big of a deal. Except he never does, because he's Howard Stern, and everyone just accepts the fact that he's a gigantic *** and let's him get away with it.

"everyone let's him get away with it" is an interesting way to put it. He built a media empire and saved another. He can say what he wants because he has worked to put himself in a position to say what he wants and have it be heard by millions. What do you want people to do, write a petition? Protest? Stfu with that.

Was what he said "childish"? Maybe to some, but he's a matter of fact guy with an ego - as well as an entertainer - and obviously won't let JVG call him out like that. And really, why are you not harpooning JVG here? He's the guy who somewhat maliciously calls out Stern for leaving a game on his own accord. Stern had a legitimate excuse (having to be up at 4AM for work), and for all we know could have had an even more legitimate excuse (let's say his wife was in an accident), JVG doesn't know, and really has no ground to stand on concerning who comes and goes from Knick blowouts.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 02:34 PM
Like it was brought up previously though he "attacked" Stern first but gave a pass to Sandler and Jack in LA. He singled out Stern that was the problem.
Yeah, but he even kind of made a crack about them leaving early, too. Van Gundy was clearly kidding in both instances. Also, I believe that LA game was a blowout loss and the Knicks game was a blowout win. I'm not sure it should matter too much, but I do think there's a difference between the two.


I'll ****ing respond to whatever I want... Just because you don't have a ****ing clue as to what you're talking about doesn't mean you can be a complete *** to people on here..
Calm down. You're acting a bit like Howard Stern yourself. I'm saying that if you're going to cherry pick which comments from pages ago to reply to, keep up with the thread and see how the person responded to those comments first.


Just because he doesn't have a show doesn't mean he didn't have other things to do. He just doesn't go to the booth do his show and then have the rest of the day off. There's meetings, planning and many business related issues we probably have 0 knowledge on. And just because you get bored of the game doesn't mean you should single out celebrities and make stupid statements.
I agree. Stern's time is valuable, and Van Gundy probably shouldn't have said anything about him leaving early. That still doesn't warrant the kind of response he got.


How about instead they call out the Knicks for such a horrible team or the NBA for showing favoritism in the playoffs.
I believe it was actually a blowout win, so it doesn't seem timely to rip the Knicks during a 20+ point victory. But I have no idea what the conversation was at the end of the game, because I didn't watch it. They may have addressed that already. :shrug:


All we are trying to tell you is that he called him out first. The response might of been over the top but it's not like he started it. And since you said Stern is a professional and should have had thicker skin well guess what JVG is also a professional and he should of kept his stupid pointless comments to himself. You can't expect to criticize a man that strongly believes in freedom of speech and holding nothing back without any consequences. It's Howard freaking Stern everybody knows he doesn't take **** from no one even if its something meaningless.
Again, Van Gundy probably shouldn't have said anything. But it shouldn't have been a big deal in the first place. It's one thing to take a passing jab at someone's fan etiquette and another entirely to take personal cheap shots at that person's life and career.

Let's propose a hypothetical scenario. Suppose you took a little jab at my sports fandom for whatever reason. How should I respond as an adult? I could address the criticism and suggest it was invalid. I might even respond with a counter criticism of your fandom. Seems like pretty standard fare for PSD, right? What if, instead, I called you a ****ing loser, took a bunch of shots at your career and your life and posted a bunch of cheap shots about you on social media? Does that seem like a justifiable response? No. Obviously. If two young men posting on an Internet sports forum can understand that, a 60-year-old millionaire with one of the most popular radio shows on the planet should be able to.

mightybosstone
04-09-2014, 02:44 PM
Let's put it like this. You and me are eating at a restaurant. We both pay for our meals you don't tip and I call you out in front of everyone in the restaurant and say you shouldn't be allowed to eat there ever again for being a cheapskate. If you're there getting attacked in front of a live audience then it is human nature to defend yourself even if it's a simple "mind your business".
I'd argue that calling someone a cheapskate is a bit more severe, but I get what you're saying. And I'd probably react a little more harshly in the moment. However, Stern's comments weren't in the moment. Weren't they like a day later? He had plenty of time to think about Van Gundy's comments and formulate a response, and that's still what he came up with.


"everyone let's him get away with it" is an interesting way to put it. He built a media empire and saved another. He can say what he wants because he has worked to put himself in a position to say what he wants and have it be heard by millions. What do you want people to do, write a petition? Protest? Stfu with that.
I'm not acting like he's breaking some kind of law or deserves to be thrown in prison. I'm saying that, as a society, when Howard Stern says something incredibly offensive or takes unfair shots at somebody, we just shrug it off and say "It's Stern. That's just who he is." He's like that family member who takes advantage of the family and is always a giant *******, but over the years, everyone just accepts it and lets him keep doing the same crap over and over again.


Was what he said "childish"? Maybe to some, but he's a matter of fact guy with an ego - as well as an entertainer - and obviously won't let JVG call him out like that. And really, why are you not harpooning JVG here? He's the guy who somewhat maliciously calls out Stern for leaving a game on his own accord. Stern had a legitimate excuse (having to be up at 4AM for work), and for all we know could have had an even more legitimate excuse (let's say his wife was in an accident), JVG doesn't know, and really has no ground to stand on concerning who comes and goes from Knick blowouts.
I'm not "harpooning" JVG here, but I certainly don't believe what the guy said was in any way malicious. Should he have not said anything? Probably. But the guy's been on air for three hours, the Knicks are up by a million and Tirico made some comment about a celebrity leaving early. Van Gundy probably just gave his honest opinion without thinking about it twice. I'm sure if he had thought about it more, he probably would have realized there are infinite number of reasons why somebody might need to leave a sporting event early.

That does not justify Stern attacking Van Gundy the way he did. I totally get that he wants to defend himself and why he left early. I'd even get it if he took a couple of harmless shots at the guy. But calling him a douchebag, a ****ing loser and a midget, then acting totally superior to the guy because he's never won a title and lighting him up on social media is ****ing insane.

KnicksorBust
04-09-2014, 03:27 PM
I hate to straddle the fence here but I don't think either guy did anything wrong?

I think a lot of fans can identify with the fact that they are probably never going to sit front row at Knicks or Lakers game so to see those seats empty or to see some rich person leaving early can be frustrating. Van Gundy was the voice of the regular guy. Nothing wrong there.

Stern is a professional comedian/talk show host who was publicly ridiculed and he used his form of media to retaliate. If you make a comment about someone like Stern you need to realize there could be repercussions. He shot back at Van Gundy. He didn't say anything that Van Gundy has never heard before. Also, buying a sports ticket doesn't require full participation in the event. You don't have to cheer. You don't have to buy food/drink. You don't have to stay until the end. I've left games early. I don't feel guilty about it. Just because he had a better seat doesn't mean he has to be a better fan.

Bruno
04-09-2014, 04:15 PM
i get where stern is coming from, although I think he's being way too sensitive. its sterns right to leave whenever the hell he wants but its niaieve for him to complain about a criticism of that; he should acknowledge that it comes with the territory, that should have been a no comment. for stern, we get that you work your *** off. you still left. just brush off the criticism.

i like both these guys a lot but JVG is right here sorry Stern.

kdspurman
04-09-2014, 04:42 PM
stern is very sensitive. when you get a minute google howard stern of comedians in cars getting coffee. great 15 minute clip with Jerry.

Ha.. that was interesting. You can tell by how he talks he cares very much what people think of him. He definitely got extra sensitive. But it will get him some publicity. JVG says stuff like this. I'm fairly certain he's said stuff at least similar to this about other celebrities.

mdm692
04-09-2014, 04:46 PM
Ha.. that was interesting. You can tell by how he talks he cares very much what people think of him. He definitely got extra sensitive. But it will get him some publicity. JVG says stuff like this. I'm fairly certain he's said stuff at least similar to this about other celebrities.

You or any of the other mods in this thread plan to go close the nonsense thread about LBJ being forgotten?

kdspurman
04-09-2014, 04:54 PM
You or any of the other mods in this thread plan to go close the nonsense thread about LBJ being forgotten?

Honestly haven't even been in there yet. I'll look at it

Bruno
04-09-2014, 04:58 PM
Ha.. that was interesting. You can tell by how he talks he cares very much what people think of him. He definitely got extra sensitive. But it will get him some publicity. JVG says stuff like this. I'm fairly certain he's said stuff at least similar to this about other celebrities.

right? stern is wired like a chick, he openly admits it. thats what makes him the king of drama. haha.

JVG says stuff like that all the time. no harm no foul man. if i didn't love stern and appreciate his contributions to the airways i'd be bashing him.

missionh1llpart
04-09-2014, 05:11 PM
Stern doesn't even really like sports. If he wanted to catch a game for fun and not stay for the whole thing, who cares? It's a free country. I worked street team for a string of Beyonce concerts last summer at Barclays Center right by the VIP entrance/exit, and a number of big name athletes and celebrities left before the shows were done including Jason Kidd, Michael Strahan, Quest Love, and Dikembe Mutombo just to name a few. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to go back to Barclay's Center? Give me a break. People do it all the time. For crying out loud, I remember going to a Celtics game once at TD Garden and Bill Russell sat about 10 rows ahead of me and he left halfway through the 4th. It sounds to me like JVG just doesn't like Howard Stern as a radio personality so he took advantage of a small opportunity to take a shot at him. Good job, JVG. Now you look like a fool.

COOLbeans
04-09-2014, 05:21 PM
People don't tune into his shows for interviews. They turn into his shows for the lewd antics. And I find it hard to take anybody seriously who treats people the way the way he does on air. It's pathetic, it's unprofessional, and as a journalist, I'm ashamed to have someone like that in our industry.

Stern is one of the greatest interviewers ever. Just listen to the most recent interview with Denise Richards. Probably some of the best information I've ever heard. YouTube will show you the way..

Bruno
04-09-2014, 05:31 PM
Stern is one of the greatest interviewers ever. Just listen to the most recent interview with Denise Richards. Probably some of the best information I've ever heard. YouTube will show you the way..

x2. his interview with McCartney is brilliant. Stern does with James Lipton does. he brilliantly gets his guests to open up in a way they usually don't do publicly. he's far beyond just a shock interviewer.

COOLbeans
04-09-2014, 05:37 PM
x2. his interview with McCartney is brilliant. Stern does with James Lipton does. he brilliantly gets his guests to open up in a way they usually don't do publicly. he's far beyond just a shock interviewer.

Far, far beyond. He was a shock interviewer in the 80s, maybe. Lipton is a great comparison lol

NYMetros
04-09-2014, 05:38 PM
Just curious, why do people like Howard Stern? He just says outrageous things to get people to listen.

COOLbeans
04-09-2014, 06:54 PM
Just curious, why do people like Howard Stern? He just says outrageous things to get people to listen.

YouTube will show you the way.

He has hour long interviews with fascinating people who tend to open up about personal things that they wouldn't otherwise say. When's the last time you heard a full Stern interview?

bagwell368
04-09-2014, 08:23 PM
Howard Stern is an entertainment icon. Love him or hate him, there's no denying he is a genius.

He's 15 years past his prime. He's behaving like the guys he used to air out in the old days.

He showed just how insecure and meaningless he has become by jumping on an offhand remark. Way to go stooge.

SeoulBeatz
04-09-2014, 08:43 PM
Opie and Anthony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Nice, someone who gets it.

In all honesty I've never laughed at a single thing Howard Stern has said. He comes off as a douche, but it's impossible not to be when you've been #1 on radio for so long.

O&A are infinitely better at this point in their careers.

The Flash
04-09-2014, 08:52 PM
Love them both :) . Howard's got beef with Bill Maher as well,and he's amazing too

kylem4711
04-09-2014, 10:44 PM
Stern is one of the greatest interviewers ever. Just listen to the most recent interview with Denise Richards. Probably some of the best information I've ever heard. YouTube will show you the way..

stern is the greatest. he is pure entertainment. Sure, he has done a lot of lewd things in the past, but people need to get over that and stop being so uptight. if you dont like that, dont listen. He is a philanthropist, extremely pro-gay, pro-women, and pretty progressive in general.

I cant even remember whens the last time he had a stripper on the show. He had that chick from duke, but she has been everywhere lately.

VendettaRed07
04-10-2014, 04:02 AM
This is why l can't listen to Stern anymore. l used to love him but all he does is whine and complain about how he had to wake up early. He just seems so bitter and angry all the time. He's one step away from yelling at kids to get off his grass.

Stern can leave the game whenever he wants, but l think the way that Van Gundy is posing it is that there are so many die hard fans that live and breathe the team, but only dream about being able to sit in those kinds of seats. Maybe Stern forgets but the reason that he became number one.. was because he was on radio. Which was free.. And everybody, regardless of income, race or social status, could experience his show the same exact way anyone else could. He had a show that was for the people, and the dedicated fans, made him who he is.. Yet thats not what its like in the NBA.. There are special experiences reserved only for the wealthy celebrities, that the blue color workers of new york will never experience (you know, his fanbase?).

And as for Van Gundy not being number 1 at something.. l'd say he's the best basketball announcer on television right now.. Nobody offers more insight and entertainment than him currently. Other announcers l normally get bored

mdm692
04-10-2014, 01:04 PM
This is why l can't listen to Stern anymore. l used to love him but all he does is whine and complain about how he had to wake up early. He just seems so bitter and angry all the time. He's one step away from yelling at kids to get off his grass.

Stern can leave the game whenever he wants, but l think the way that Van Gundy is posing it is that there are so many die hard fans that live and breathe the team, but only dream about being able to sit in those kinds of seats. Maybe Stern forgets but the reason that he became number one.. was because he was on radio. Which was free.. And everybody, regardless of income, race or social status, could experience his show the same exact way anyone else could. He had a show that was for the people, and the dedicated fans, made him who he is.. Yet thats not what its like in the NBA.. There are special experiences reserved only for the wealthy celebrities, that the blue color workers of new york will never experience (you know, his fanbase?).

And as for Van Gundy not being number 1 at something.. l'd say he's the best basketball announcer on television right now.. Nobody offers more insight and entertainment than him currently. Other announcers l normally get bored
And all Stern is saying is that he can't be a die hard fan like those blue collar workers, myself included, because he is fully committed to being the best he can be for his fans. And I can guarantee you that his fan base expands far beyond NY. Basically JVG questioned his fandom just because Stern had to leave early due to work.

flea
04-10-2014, 01:11 PM
What a pair of little *****es. Listening to Howard Stern talk about being #1 was like listening Limbaugh talk about how great his show is and how many sponsors he has.