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randyorton33
03-12-2014, 06:31 PM
Kobe wants D'Antoni FIRED...hes gone.

http://www.balldontstop.com/rumor-mike-dantoni-fired-season/

randyorton33
03-12-2014, 06:35 PM
Saw this coming though

Hulk6
03-12-2014, 06:36 PM
no surprise, shouldve never been hired.. With Kobe aging, the triangle offense wouldve allowed him to play at a high level for far longer, the dantoni system was too much

Big Zo
03-12-2014, 06:39 PM
Damn. I was hoping he'd mess them up a few more years.

slaker619
03-12-2014, 06:42 PM
Not shocked

Stunner
03-12-2014, 06:44 PM
We knew this game 1 of this season .


Tapatalk Rulez !!!

Chi StateOfMind
03-12-2014, 06:45 PM
I'm pretty sure this was happening anyway. But thanks for finalizing Kobe

SteveNash
03-12-2014, 06:45 PM
Damn. I was hoping he'd mess them up a few more years.

Don't worry, Jim Buss is still the owner.

Baller1
03-12-2014, 06:49 PM
Shocker.

Hawkeye15
03-12-2014, 06:50 PM
der

Avenged
03-12-2014, 06:55 PM
Damn. I was hoping he'd mess them up a few more years.

Me too. Build through the draft!

Teufelshunde4
03-12-2014, 07:07 PM
no surprise, shouldve never been hired.. With Kobe aging, the triangle offense wouldve allowed him to play at a high level for far longer, the dantoni system was too much

Dantoni is a joke of a coach... Im amazed he has had as many NBA jobs as he has.. He must be a awesome interview and sell himself well..

Hawkeye15
03-12-2014, 07:09 PM
Dantoni is a joke of a coach... Im amazed he has had as many NBA jobs as he has.. He must be a awesome interview and sell himself well..

he was an awesome offensive coach for nearly a decade, but he needs the right players to win. He isn't a coach who can make adjustments. He needs shooters galore, and athletes up front. He has none of that since joining NY/LA.

Baller1
03-12-2014, 07:10 PM
he was an awesome offensive coach for nearly a decade, but he needs the right players to win. He isn't a coach who can make adjustments. He needs shooters galore, and athletes up front. He has none of that since joining NY/LA.

He needs to go be the assistant for Thibs in Chicago.

shep33
03-12-2014, 07:11 PM
I think we all saw this coming. MDA needs to be an assistant coach somewhere. Offensively he's pretty solid.

lol, please
03-12-2014, 07:16 PM
Bad move. Now they will be worse.

Tony_Starks
03-12-2014, 07:28 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah man!!! I haven't been this happy since Mickey Dees brought back the Mighty Wings!

Lakers + Giants
03-12-2014, 07:32 PM
Expected, but still, best news for us all season. Now, lets get a top 5 pick to make this a good season!

Tony_Starks
03-12-2014, 07:34 PM
I was kindof hoping he could've been the first coach to be fired at halftime but I guess this will do....

Stunner
03-12-2014, 07:35 PM
He needs to go be the assistant for Thibs in Chicago.

I wouldn't mind that


Tapatalk Rulez !!!

Stunner
03-12-2014, 07:37 PM
You know what I take that back , if we get Melo he might punch him .


Tapatalk Rulez !!!

NBA_Starter
03-12-2014, 08:04 PM
Well it is about time.

Dade County
03-12-2014, 09:47 PM
But how was he supposed to succeed...?

Last year, players were going down left and right. This year, they are in tank Mode; Kobe fake injury that they paid him his full contract up front.

I mean what was Dantoni rally going to do.

Da Knicks
03-12-2014, 10:03 PM
Most overrated coach in the league right now!

Avenged
03-12-2014, 10:14 PM
Most overrated coach in the league right now!

How so? I think it's pretty clear how much he sucks..

bleedprple&gold
03-12-2014, 10:17 PM
But how was he supposed to succeed...?

Last year, players were going down left and right. This year, they are in tank Mode; Kobe fake injury that they paid him his full contract up front.

I mean what was Dantoni rally going to do.

You think the Kobe injury was fake? Lol you think Kobe would EVER agree to do that? If we were in the playoffs race Kobe might have come back but the injury was still legit.

amos1er
03-12-2014, 10:31 PM
Misleading thread title. Makes it sound as if the Lakers FO is ready to get rid of D'Antoni when it's only Kobe who wants him gone. We all know how Jim listens to his franchise players right. :facepalm: See Dwight Howard.

Tony_Starks
03-12-2014, 10:38 PM
Most overrated coach in the league right now!

How he parlayed the Phoenix deal into two coaching gigs I will never know. Even a casual fan could see he was coaching a allstar team, and they STILL never reached the Finals!

PraiseJesus
03-12-2014, 10:52 PM
I wonder what POS coach they will hire this time

Dade County
03-12-2014, 10:54 PM
You think the Kobe injury was fake? Lol you think Kobe would EVER agree to do that?

Of course, he is an employee of the National Basket Association.




If we were in the playoffs race Kobe might have come back but the injury was still legit.

If the Lakers had a legit team, he would be averaging 28pts a game (on 21 shots per game) right now. Kobe is perfectly fine, his a warrior.

IndiansFan337
03-12-2014, 11:10 PM
Not surprised. His main problem is going to these big markets for cash grabs, and then he's getting fired before they can build a team that fits his system. This summer was finally the chance to mold the roster to fit his system and now he's going to miss it. Even though he had Amare, a similar thing occurred in NY.

waveycrockett
03-12-2014, 11:11 PM
Mike D'Antoni's system is proven to work when he has the right players for his system. You cant judge him by the trash teams he's had in NY and LA. Not to mention guys like Kobe and Melo are exactly the type of players who ruin his system. Give him a good PG and an athletic big man surrounded by shooters and you will have a 50 win team. George Karl and Stan Van Gundy basically have the same exact coaching philosophy as Dantoni.

D-Leethal
03-12-2014, 11:19 PM
Mike D'Antoni's system is proven to work when he has the right players for his system. You cant judge him by the trash teams he's had in NY and LA. Not to mention guys like Kobe and Melo are exactly the type of players who ruin his system. Give him a good PG and an athletic big man surrounded by shooters and you will have a 50 win team. George Karl and Stan Van Gundy basically have the same exact coaching philosophy as Dantoni.

I agree.

D-Leethal
03-12-2014, 11:21 PM
Mike D is useless without a PG. Give him a Steph Curry type guard and you have your league MVP. He has had guys like Duhon and Blake with complete antithesis ball dominant stars on the wing. Look what Lin and Felton looked like under him. I hope he gets another shot with the right team at some point down the line.

waveycrockett
03-12-2014, 11:27 PM
Dantoni was regarded as a top-3 coach with PHX. When the Knicks had Felton/Gallo/Amare/Chandler/Fields and then the following season while Anthony was out he had Lin/Chandler/Shumpert/Novak the Knicks were a top-3 team in the East during those periods. Dantoni is stupid for walking into that situation with the Knicks doing a complete rebuild and again in LA.

kobe4thewinbang
03-13-2014, 12:04 AM
What's with people praising D'Antoni for making good offense for teams?
None of those teams won anything, because THERE WAS NO DEFENSE.

waveycrockett
03-13-2014, 12:13 AM
What's with people praising D'Antoni for making good offense for teams?
None of those teams won anything, because THERE WAS NO DEFENSE.
He's had very good teams. His system can work with the right pieces. It's been proven. He turned Steve Nash from a fringe Allstar into multiple MVP in his 30's. He's never won a ring. That doesn't make him a horrible coach.

goingfor28
03-13-2014, 12:31 AM
Stephen A Smiths "sources" told him

Coupon
03-13-2014, 01:13 AM
Dantoni was regarded as a top-3 coach with PHX. When the Knicks had Felton/Gallo/Amare/Chandler/Fields and then the following season while Anthony was out he had Lin/Chandler/Shumpert/Novak the Knicks were a top-3 team in the East during those periods. Dantoni is stupid for walking into that situation with the Knicks doing a complete rebuild and again in LA.

I was excited about the Knicks during those brief periods. Unfortunately Jim Dolan was mesmerized at the notion of playing host to the Carmelo show. So he dealt everything of value just so Carmelo could get a higher version of max salary. Lin distracted people's attention from Carmelo and needed to touch the ball too often so he had to go, too.

How great Lin and even Felton looked in D'Antoni's system was no illusion, though.

Celebrity players often seem more important in the current NBA than actually winning. This has made D'Antoni's last two situations difficult.

waveycrockett
03-13-2014, 01:22 AM
I was excited about the Knicks during those brief periods. Unfortunately Jim Dolan was mesmerized at the notion of playing host to the Carmelo show. So he dealt everything of value just so Carmelo could get a higher version of max salary. Lin distracted people's attention from Carmelo and needed to touch the ball too often so he had to go, too.

How great Lin and even Felton looked in D'Antoni's system was no illusion, though.

Celebrity players often seem more important in the current NBA than actually winning. This has made D'Antoni's last two situations difficult.

x10000000 when your coaching in NY or LA. The best thing for D'Antoni would have been to go to a team that already had players suited for his style and less media scrutiny. D'Antoni is actually pretty horrible with the media.

Tony_Starks
03-13-2014, 12:04 PM
He's had very good teams. His system can work with the right pieces. It's been proven. He turned Steve Nash from a fringe Allstar into multiple MVP in his 30's. He's never won a ring. That doesn't make him a horrible coach.

Being a great offensive coach doesn't= great coach. His defense has been a laughing stock everywhere he's been. He's also incapable of adjusting to his personnel like a Thibbs, like a George Karl, Larry Brown.....etc. He also routinely throws players under the bus, isolates them, and randomly benches them for weeks at a time.

His resume should basically say "give me the perfect players for my system, we'll score a bunch of points, win some games, be a joke on D, and lose in the playoffs."

( and btw I'm excluding this throwaway season I'm talking all seasons prior )

xxplayerxx23
03-13-2014, 12:18 PM
People forget about his suns teams. Who knows what happens if amare doesn't get off the bench vs the spurs? He needs an up and down team like the suns now lol I think he would work out there tbh he needs to be an assistant for now IMO

SportsFanatic10
03-13-2014, 12:26 PM
they really messed up not getting phil back. now aren't they gonna have to pay brown and d'antoni money owed to not coach on top of the new one they put in place. lakers really need to get it right this time and make a smart hire here. find the right coach to coach kobe's last few seasons.

TorontoHuskies
03-13-2014, 12:29 PM
i'm betting the Cavs fire brown and hire this guy lol.

king4day
03-13-2014, 12:42 PM
He'll be able to sit at home and enjoy the 4mil coming to him. I thought it wasn't a terrible hire at the time but you can't put all the blame on him. That is one of the least talented teams in the league with Kobe and Nash hurting/out.

king4day
03-13-2014, 12:44 PM
People forget about his suns teams. Who knows what happens if amare doesn't get off the bench vs the spurs? He needs an up and down team like the suns now lol I think he would work out there tbh he needs to be an assistant for now IMO

Not to mention, with NY, when they got Amar'e, pre melo), they were really good. Then they tore up the core to get melo and no longer had the pieces that fit his system.

People need to lay off him a bit. They act like any coach, Phil included, could have done more with this years team.

jerellh528
03-13-2014, 12:44 PM
I'm all for this, but if this means melo is coming to LA then I might barf. I'd rather take dantoni for one more year than have melo as the face of LA for a max contract.

SportsFanatic10
03-13-2014, 12:44 PM
People forget about his suns teams. Who knows what happens if amare doesn't get off the bench vs the spurs? He needs an up and down team like the suns now lol I think he would work out there tbh he needs to be an assistant for now IMO

ya i think he has some potential, with the right team he can run a high scoring offense. but i think he is extremely weak on the defensive side coaching wise, and could benefit from assisting a great defensive coach like thibs or something for a few years to become more well rounded before getting another shot at head coach. but i'm not sure his run and gun offensive style would mesh seamlessly with a proper defensive system either.

D-Leethal
03-13-2014, 01:17 PM
Being a great offensive coach doesn't= great coach. His defense has been a laughing stock everywhere he's been. He's also incapable of adjusting to his personnel like a Thibbs, like a George Karl, Larry Brown.....etc. He also routinely throws players under the bus, isolates them, and randomly benches them for weeks at a time.

His resume should basically say "give me the perfect players for my system, we'll score a bunch of points, win some games, be a joke on D, and lose in the playoffs."

( and btw I'm excluding this throwaway season I'm talking all seasons prior )

His Suns teams were always middle of the pack with Amare Stoudemire manning the paint as the anchor. The 2011 Knicks were ranked 3rd overall under D'Antoni before falling into the bottom half under Woodson. The Linsanity team was ranked #1 overall on D during that stretch and Mike D is more than willing to play defensive specialists in his lineups even if they can't shoot a lick or do anything on offense.

The "Mike D doesn't teach D!!!" **** is way overblown. You expect that Laker team to play freakin' defense?

There are a ton of great coaches that only coach one way and struggle to bend. You don't get a dog and get mad when it doesn't meow. Those no-defense Suns would have won a championship if they were together for a longer period than 5 years (seriously, guys like GK and Jerry Sloan get nothing but PRAISE on here when they couldn't win a chip in 30 years of coaching contenders. Mike D doesn't in 5-6 years and is a bum), if their ownership wasn't cheap as **** and trading away max players and first rounders every single year, and they probably would have won anyway without the Horry cheap shot.

There is no line in the sand that says your system is good enough to get to the conference finals multiple times but the buck stops there, and your system is not championship worthy. Thats not how basketball works. The best team wins.

colinskik
03-13-2014, 01:23 PM
How he parlayed the Phoenix deal into two coaching gigs I will never know. Even a casual fan could see he was coaching a allstar team, and they STILL never reached the Finals!

Yeah, an "all star" team whose parts have since been deemed "overrated" and "a product of D'Antoni's system."

You can't have it both ways.

As a Knicks fan I suffered though his inept coaching style, but I will still give MD a slight pass here. His two years in LA were a joke cause he had no talent. Look what he did with the likes of Steve Blake, Kendall Marshall, etc. He definitely has some coaching talent, but it's very limited to his personnel. And unfortunately for him, the personnel situation was atrocious due mostly to injuries.

And I'm sick of hearing the argument that he didn't take a team to the finals. He was one game and some BS suspensions away from the finals. But yet coaches who made it to the finals but never won a championship are that much better? No way.

ztilzer31
03-13-2014, 01:27 PM
I'm not the biggest Dantoni fan, but I'm also not a fan of teams giving coaches horrible players to work with then using the coach as a scape goat. Especially when they had the chance to sign Phil Jackson, and chose Dantoni over them.

Tony_Starks
03-13-2014, 01:34 PM
He's a horrible defensive coach man. This is all you need to know about him defensively: last year when he had what should've been a fairly decent defensive team and we were routinely having teams drop 120 + on us he was getting killed in the media. After giving up like 140 one night the media asked were they embarrassed and did they talk about defense he got super pissed and literally said:

"Now you're starting to piss me off. Yeah we talked about defense, we went over it for 30 MINUTES!!!!!!!"

He wasn't joking, he wasn't being sarcastic. He was dead serious. He literally doesn't give a damn about defense. When your team gives up a combined 500 points in 4 games, I don't care who's on the floor, that is absolutely pathetic.

Good riddance to this guy. Send him to Golden State. They'll probably put up 150 a night and give up 155....

ewing
03-13-2014, 01:42 PM
weather people like it or not Dantoni changed the game

waveycrockett
03-13-2014, 02:18 PM
Being a great offensive coach doesn't= great coach. His defense has been a laughing stock everywhere he's been. He's also incapable of adjusting to his personnel like a Thibbs, like a George Karl, Larry Brown.....etc. He also routinely throws players under the bus, isolates them, and randomly benches them for weeks at a time.

His resume should basically say "give me the perfect players for my system, we'll score a bunch of points, win some games, be a joke on D, and lose in the playoffs."

( and btw I'm excluding this throwaway season I'm talking all seasons prior )

Winning is the mark of a good coach and when you've won 60+ games twice and 50+ games twice and been to the WCF in a stacked conference twice your at least a pretty damn good coach. He doesn't adjust to his personnel because he wants his personnel to adjust to him which isn't wrong for a coach to want. Also his resume doesn't ask for "perfect players". When your system asks for simply an above average PG, good shooters, guys who are unselfish and 1 athletic big that isn't asking for alot at ALL.


How quickly people forgot how close his SUns were to taking out the Spurs on their title run before his team was wiped out by suspensions.

D-Leethal
03-13-2014, 02:28 PM
He's a horrible defensive coach man. This is all you need to know about him defensively: last year when he had what should've been a fairly decent defensive team and we were routinely having teams drop 120 + on us he was getting killed in the media. After giving up like 140 one night the media asked were they embarrassed and did they talk about defense he got super pissed and literally said:

"Now you're starting to piss me off. Yeah we talked about defense, we went over it for 30 MINUTES!!!!!!!"

He wasn't joking, he wasn't being sarcastic. He was dead serious. He literally doesn't give a damn about defense. When your team gives up a combined 500 points in 4 games, I don't care who's on the floor, that is absolutely pathetic.

Good riddance to this guy. Send him to Golden State. They'll probably put up 150 a night and give up 155....

lol, I watched the guy for 3 years. Your hyperbole isn't "all I need to know". You do realize walk-throughs on gameday are not that long right? 30 mins is probably what most teams dedicate to defensive assignments, matchup, strategy for any particular game on game day.

How on Earth were the Lakers supposed to be a decent defensive team last year? That team was a mess and the slowest team in the league at every position. Dwight was also an injured shell last season. That team was not built to play any defense.

I saw him coach a top 3 defensive team all season long and have his starting Center win DPOY.

D-Leethal
03-13-2014, 02:31 PM
Winning is the mark of a good coach and when you've won 60+ games twice and 50+ games twice and been to the WCF in a stacked conference twice your at least a pretty damn good coach. He doesn't adjust to his personnel because he wants his personnel to adjust to him which isn't wrong for a coach to want. Also his resume doesn't ask for "perfect players". When your system asks for simply an above average PG, good shooters, guys who are unselfish and 1 athletic big that isn't asking for alot at ALL.


How quickly people forgot how close his SUns were to taking out the Spurs on their title run before his team was wiped out by suspensions.

Phil is the best coach ever but never once coached anything outside of his comfort zone or the triangle. Not all coaches are Pat Riley or Greg Popovich. Most of them have a way to coach, a system to coach, and they need the horses to run that system. You don't get Mike D'Antoni and give him a crappy bench PG as your starter and a ball dominant, isolation wing scorer as your best player.

There are at least 10, probably 15 teams in this league that you replace their current coach with Mike D'Antoni, and Mike D'Antoni has them playing much better basketball than they currently play. Nobody in this league will coach a team with a stud PG, shooters and athletic bigs better than Mike D. I hope he gets a chance to show what he can do with the right personnel again.

ewing
03-13-2014, 02:43 PM
Phil is the best coach ever but never once coached anything outside of his comfort zone or the triangle. Not all coaches are Pat Riley or Greg Popovich. Most of them have a way to coach, a system to coach, and they need the horses to run that system. You don't get Mike D'Antoni and give him a crappy bench PG as your starter and a ball dominant, isolation wing scorer as your best player.

There are at least 10, probably 15 teams in this league that you replace their current coach with Mike D'Antoni, and Mike D'Antoni has them playing much better basketball than they currently play. Nobody in this league will coach a team with a stud PG, shooters and athletic bigs better than Mike D. I hope he gets a chance to show what he can do with the right personnel again.


Pop is the best. He beat D'antoni and then stole the best parts of his system

D-Leethal
03-13-2014, 02:45 PM
Pop is the best. He beat D'antoni and then stole the best parts of his system

lol, you right. Basically the equivalent of whooping your *** AND banging your girl.

waveycrockett
03-13-2014, 03:02 PM
Pop is the best. He beat D'antoni and then stole the best parts of his system

Basically this. Pop realized the genius of Mike D's system and had 3 future UNSELFISH HOF's implement it. So did SVG when he came from Miami to ORL.

The funny thing is the Lakers FO clearly knows MIke D can bring them a great team with the fewest resources but they are facing a PR nightmare from alot of uninformed fans and former members of the team *ahem*Magic which will force their hand.

D-Leethal
03-13-2014, 03:07 PM
Basically this. Pop realized the genius of Mike D's system and had 3 future UNSELFISH HOF's implement it. So did SVG when he came from Miami to ORL.

And now, everyone be doin' it.

Mike D was an innovator, a revolutionary of some sort. I wouldn't go as far as Bill Walton to say he "saved" the game, because I love me some 90s rugbyasketball but I would definitely give him his due for "changing" the game.


“I’ve known Mike D’Antoni for 40 years,” Walton told WFAN’s Boomer & Carton on Wednesday. “He is a brilliant basketball mind. He is a genius in terms of creativity and imagination.”

Upon resistance from Carton, Walton stepped up his game: “The NBA owes a huge debt of gratitude to Mike D’Antoni, who saved the sport 10 years ago.”

“I stand by that statement,” Walton said when asked if he’d like to retract his comments on D’Antoni. “I stand tall on that statement. I stand tall as others have stood tall for me. Mike D’Antoni is a genius, he is a monument to the history of basketball.”

The Hall of Famer credited D’Antoni for rescuing basketball from “going down this disastrous path of nothing but standing around and grinding it out.”

AddiX
03-13-2014, 06:02 PM
I still can't believe mike d got a job with the lakers after his time in ny.

It really is proof these owners don't listen to anyone and just do WTF they want like a kid playing video games.

kobe4thewinbang
03-14-2014, 12:58 AM
Being a great offensive coach doesn't= great coach. His defense has been a laughing stock everywhere he's been. He's also incapable of adjusting to his personnel like a Thibbs, like a George Karl, Larry Brown.....etc. He also routinely throws players under the bus, isolates them, and randomly benches them for weeks at a time.

His resume should basically say "give me the perfect players for my system, we'll score a bunch of points, win some games, be a joke on D, and lose in the playoffs."

( and btw I'm excluding this throwaway season I'm talking all seasons prior )Thank you for seeing my point. I guess it might be good for business to hire him, and with the right players, you will have a 50+ win team that will tease fans with real success. Tasty fluff. But you'll never win a title.

Bruno
03-14-2014, 02:11 AM
its a start.

kobe4thewinbang
03-14-2014, 03:25 AM
its a start.Don't know why they don't just fire him now.

Iron24th
03-14-2014, 03:52 AM
Don't know why they don't just fire him now.

What's the point of fire him now?!

We need lose as many games as possible right now and in case you haven't noticed yet, this clown is the perfect fit to lose us games.

Heediot
03-14-2014, 07:35 AM
Kobe the hypocrite. Wants them to go all in yet takes up 1/3 of the payroll.