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GodsSon
03-10-2014, 03:51 PM
(31-30)http://www.rotoworld.com/img/NBA/teams/logos/BKN.png..............http://www.rotoworld.com/img/NBA/teams/logos/TOR.png(35-26)
BROOKLYN NETS (http://www.nba.com/nets/index_main.html) v. TORONTO RAPTORS (www.torontoraptors.com)


Date: March 10th, 2014
Time: 7:30 PM
Location: Barclays Center, Brooklyn, NY
TV:TSN2

From the last meeting...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBpJaD0HmQg

killersweet
03-10-2014, 04:12 PM
Nets looking for revenge. Let's hope raptors stick it to them tonight!

nba_4_life
03-10-2014, 04:20 PM
lets go Raptors!!!

MoneyBall20
03-10-2014, 06:30 PM
Big game tonight,hopefully T Ross stuffs it right in KG grill. No Patterson,it's gonna be challenging,his good on pick and rolls.

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 06:36 PM
We got DD back this time... I remember him being out vs. the Nets last time. Should be a great game. Go Raps!!

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 06:47 PM
No Kirilenko for the Nets tonight. Pierce and KG are playing however.

douac4
03-10-2014, 07:34 PM
back leg of 2 road games & lowry played big minutes last night
a challenge for the coach
an opportunity for coca cola?

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:36 PM
Kevin Garnet scratched from the lineup.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:42 PM
Wow Nets switch everything.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:44 PM
ROSS is such a boss.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:46 PM
Rossclot

Tmath
03-10-2014, 07:46 PM
Ross is so ****ing nasty!

BHF
03-10-2014, 07:47 PM
Lowry with great defense and good pg play so far.

TO Rapz
03-10-2014, 07:47 PM
Seriously, what the **** is up with Matt Devlin's weird orgasms for Jack as of late

Tmath
03-10-2014, 07:50 PM
Brooklyn Bricks

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:51 PM
Old Man Nets.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 07:52 PM
Jonas with a no look block LOL

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:52 PM
I'd like to see Ross attack the rim more.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 07:53 PM
Hopefully the Raps can make this a laugher.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:54 PM
Thank you for the makeup call Refs.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 07:55 PM
wow dwill has fallen off, cna't believe this dude used to challenge paul for best pg in the league

Tmath
03-10-2014, 07:56 PM
Stupid pass by Lowry

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 07:57 PM
Nets undermanned Raps have to take advantage & keep up the energy.

nba_4_life
03-10-2014, 07:58 PM
wow dwill has fallen off, cna't believe this dude used to challenge paul for best pg in the league
I think dwill was good because of jerry sloan coaching.

pulzar
03-10-2014, 07:59 PM
Stupid pass by Lowry

Yes. No need for it, just lay it up. Especially when it's Mr Butterfinger on the receiving end.

BHF
03-10-2014, 08:00 PM
Nets fans booed their own player Teletovic last night thinking he is Russian, in support Ukraine lol muricans.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 08:02 PM
Nets fans booed their own player Teletovic last night thinking he is Russian, in support Ukraine lol muricans.

DAMNN thats really messed up lmao.

killersweet
03-10-2014, 08:02 PM
Off to a solid start..

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:05 PM
Nice 1st qtr

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 08:05 PM
imagine if hansbrough or amir were both 7ft or a bit taller.. we'd have the perfect rotation of bigs

BHF
03-10-2014, 08:06 PM
When or if TRoss learns how to drive he is gonna be a dangerous player.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:07 PM
I don't understand why the Nets have such a small fan base on PSD and other forums. The Knicks have a huge following. The Nets don't even have a game thread.

North Yorker
03-10-2014, 08:07 PM
imagine if hansbrough or amir were both 7ft or a bit taller.. we'd have the perfect rotation of bigs

Luckily the league has begun going smaller with bigmen. PF's getting a lot of time at C and SF's getting a lot of time at PF.

We need a back-up 7 footer for the Hibberts/Howards/Gasols/etc.

pulzar
03-10-2014, 08:07 PM
GV-TH two man show there...

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:09 PM
Lol @ Hansbrough

killersweet
03-10-2014, 08:09 PM
hehe, psycho T mixing it up.....

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:10 PM
AA sighting

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:13 PM
Take Novak out. They are going at him every time.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:16 PM
Novak is a sieve. Kidd is a punk for just ISOing Novak every time. He has to save those looks for the second half.

pulzar
03-10-2014, 08:16 PM
Casey is staying with the small lineup too long... I can't say I'm surprised.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 08:18 PM
Novak is a sieve. Kidd is a punk for just ISOing Novak every time. He has to save those looks for the second half.

why is he a punk? Lol obviously hes gonna try to take advantage of the weakest link on the floor.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:20 PM
Good job Lowry

BHF
03-10-2014, 08:22 PM
Salmons why foul there with 3.5 left on the shot clock :facepalm:

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:23 PM
Bring Ross back in please

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:27 PM
Weak foul call on Ross

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:27 PM
Lowry's gotta take care of the ball better.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:29 PM
**** off AA

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 08:31 PM
ugh i just want them to give Ross the ball every 5th possession. is that too much to ask for????

BHF
03-10-2014, 08:33 PM
Plumlee brothers > Val

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 08:33 PM
after this timeout, watch them give the ball to Ross.
SMH.

lol.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 08:35 PM
ugh i just want them to give Ross the ball every 5th possession. is that too much to ask for????

+1 or something for jonas? 12 minutes played with no shot attempts..

and wow ross is only playing 26m a night? thought he would be close to 30 with the way he impacts the team on both floors

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:35 PM
**** so many fouls.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 08:37 PM
omg Ross touched the ball after the timeout!!!!

**** Casey. lol

Tmath
03-10-2014, 08:37 PM
:facepalm:

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:37 PM
**** Val.

dalton749
03-10-2014, 08:39 PM
val has actually been terrible
i know it takes time but the guy looks like he can barely jump anymore and has club hands

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 08:39 PM
Casey, why aren't you giving the ball to Ross????????????

just like the end of the 1st quarter, no touches. now the end of the 2nd quarter, one touch off a hand off.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:39 PM
Good start, Raps gotta grind it out in the second half. Figure out how to stop ball penetration and take advantage of our own penetration and lack of Nets rim protection. I'd like to see Ross get involved more in the second half & Derozan needs to take over.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 08:41 PM
knowing Casey, he'll run some plays for Ross to begin the second half and then forget about him again. dude had 12 points to start the game.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:44 PM
Raws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeaLahBLoGQ

dalton749
03-10-2014, 08:44 PM
i kind of wish we tried to get asik

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:53 PM
^Bring JV off the bench?

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:55 PM
Raps gotta look to go over the top on the nets defence more often they have little length down low.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 08:57 PM
****in Eric Lewis, same guy who made that ******** call on lowry.

BHF
03-10-2014, 08:58 PM
what the hell how do u make a call like that?

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:01 PM
Refs are really trying to help the Nets

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:01 PM
Yes Lowry that's what I mean by goin over the top

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:03 PM
Too many fouls.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:03 PM
Atta boy JV

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:04 PM
Lowry better make the all defensive team

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:04 PM
are we really gonna forget about Ross? not even a part of any plays. gonna let Joe Johnson rest on defense?

sound like a broken record

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:05 PM
Ross finally gets a shot. so cold.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:08 PM
Nets coming out firing, what do the Raps got? Raps gotta come out and compete, get something going for the big man, maybe a post-up or something.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:08 PM
Bring in Hansbrough. Amir is gassed.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:10 PM
****

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:11 PM
WTF where was the timeout earlier??

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:11 PM
Raps have no fight tonight

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:12 PM
Casey you little *****.

North Yorker
03-10-2014, 09:12 PM
Well, it appears the wheels have indeed, come off.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:12 PM
Well it's not looking good guys. A lot of time left but that's a big hole to dig yourself out of. Raps trying to be too perimeter oriented right now. We gotta get JV some touches in the post or something. Gotta mix it up our offence is too predictable right now.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:13 PM
Raps have no fight tonight

They aren't using their repertoire of players. I mean you're going to be gassed if you keep using Lowry, Demar, and Amir in EVERY SINGLE PLAY. no touches for JVal, no touches for Ross.

The Wise 1
03-10-2014, 09:14 PM
Haven't checked Lowry's numbers for tonight but even if they're good. He's having a horrible game. Ever since his second foul he has been playing out of control. On offense and defense. He's literally just running around and doing whatever he wants. I've seen him numerous times just run around and choose some random big to guard.

He's made the offense and defense very chaotic.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:14 PM
Collins is fat.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:15 PM
FINALLY! Ross gets a touch and gets an assist to a wide open Lowry.

well designed play. (sarcastic)

Rego247
03-10-2014, 09:15 PM
Need more stops

dalton749
03-10-2014, 09:16 PM
Collins is fat.

i wonder if he thrusts on screens

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:16 PM
The Nets aren't really doing a great job on defense from what I see. The Raps are just making poor offensive decisions and aren't able to make the usual shots they do make. The fatigue is setting in and the Nets have realized it and are hammering down. This could get ugly...

BHF
03-10-2014, 09:18 PM
some of u still think DD is better than Lowry?

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:18 PM
Ugh... WTF was that Lowry...

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:20 PM
Raps fighting back

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:21 PM
some of u still think DD is better than Lowry?

how he snubbed for johnson still puzzles me :confused:

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:23 PM
damn this is gonna be a nice game down the stretch

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:23 PM
That was charge at the end of the Q. **** these refs!

BHF
03-10-2014, 09:25 PM
how he snubbed for johnson still puzzles me :confused:

and they put JJ in the 3pt contest too lol

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:27 PM
Sloppy start.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:28 PM
Gimme that call.

Nick O
03-10-2014, 09:29 PM
Psycho T havin a night tho

pulzar
03-10-2014, 09:31 PM
On the Nets broadcast: "Lowry does a lot of officiating out there, doesn't he?"

Lol

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:33 PM
On the Nets broadcast: "Lowry does a lot of officiating out there, doesn't he?"

Lol

Lol considering the Nets are made up of whiny little *****es in Pierce, Blatche, KG, and AA.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:33 PM
I'd like to see some Ross & Val back in there with Derozan.

pebloemer
03-10-2014, 09:33 PM
On the Nets broadcast: "Lowry does a lot of officiating out there, doesn't he?"

Lol

They aren't wrong ;)

SA5195
03-10-2014, 09:34 PM
Ugh GV

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:35 PM
Get GV and Hayes out please.

SA5195
03-10-2014, 09:36 PM
Take GV out ASAP

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:36 PM
Let's get Derozan going. come on lol.

Rego247
03-10-2014, 09:36 PM
Post up demar ffs

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:36 PM
derozan not working enough to get some open looks

SA5195
03-10-2014, 09:36 PM
give DD the ball

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:38 PM
give DD the ball

Casey isn't running these plays off teh screens for Demar. I just don't know what Casey is doing on drawing these plays. still piss poor offensively in some aspects.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:38 PM
hansbrough should've went up with that

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:38 PM
Let's go Raps, BK running out of Gas.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:38 PM
Just realized Superfan is in the Brooklyn arena

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:39 PM
OMG the friggin guy from the Hyundai dealership is there in Brooklyn and pointing to the sideline as an official LOL

made my night

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:39 PM
just realized superfan is in the brooklyn arena

yessssssss!!!

pebloemer
03-10-2014, 09:39 PM
hansbrough should've went up with that

Yup.

Nick O
03-10-2014, 09:40 PM
ugh nice pass but Hans has to go up with that damn

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:40 PM
hansbrough should've went up with that

agreed. wide open.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:40 PM
Close game. Raps should win this.

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:40 PM
We're clearly the better team. Finish them off...

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:40 PM
Deron Williams picking his game up.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:41 PM
Oh FFS...

Rego247
03-10-2014, 09:41 PM
C'mon demar. ****

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:41 PM
5 sec violation damn

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:42 PM
lol Paul Pierce trying to dunk.

guy has no hops left.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:42 PM
Nets have answer for everything.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:42 PM
turnover here costly.

Rego247
03-10-2014, 09:42 PM
Fukkkkk

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:43 PM
**** costly turnovers, that could have just sealed it.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:43 PM
execution. come on raps.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:43 PM
Demar DeDisappear

Rego247
03-10-2014, 09:43 PM
Derozan needs to step the **** up.

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:44 PM
The offensive game plan needs to be on the inside. Keep pounding them with Amir and Psycho T and for ffs don't turn the ball over and get some ****ing stops!!!

Nick O
03-10-2014, 09:44 PM
damn. that 5 second call is so damn annoying. sloppy *** play

MoneyBall20
03-10-2014, 09:45 PM
C'mon demar. ****

Demar needs 2 wake up,dude wait till playoffs,his half a sleep,let's go.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:45 PM
Derozan needs to step the **** up.

Casey are just using his wing players as screens/ decoys. half court sets, no touches for Demar. This is Casey's call.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:46 PM
Lowry 4 mvp

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:46 PM
Lowry!!!

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:46 PM
Lowry making things happen

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:46 PM
wow lowryy taking over

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:46 PM
Lowry wants this one...

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:47 PM
Lowry just seems to always find himself in the middle of a lot of plays on the ball.

Sly Guy
03-10-2014, 09:47 PM
woooooooooooooooowwwww, lowry, holy ****, we WILL NOT LOSE THE GAME

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:47 PM
Finally DD!!

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:47 PM
LOWRYYYYY nice rebound.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:48 PM
WOW +100000000 for that towel guy who did the roll to get out of the way LMAO

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:48 PM
what a ****ing game! love it!

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:48 PM
Hey look the refs finally give us a call! **** these stupid idiots!

pulzar
03-10-2014, 09:49 PM
It's Lowry vs Nets, 1 on 5.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:50 PM
LOWRYY!!!! yes.

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:50 PM
Paul Pierce is an old ****ing fart.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:50 PM
****

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:50 PM
****! Just ****

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:51 PM
oh wow. PP still has the shot.

Nick O
03-10-2014, 09:51 PM
****in pierce

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:51 PM
****ing 2nd quarter haunting the raps right now

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:51 PM
**** you Pierce

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:51 PM
that was as good of a defense by the Raps.. Lowry was too short. Pierce didn't even see him

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:52 PM
There's still a lot of time left. Nothing fancy here... just get 1 to go.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:52 PM
brooklyn is tough man...

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:52 PM
Good job DD.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:53 PM
the key matchup isn't even right. Ross was guarding Johnson for the game.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:53 PM
Let's go Raps, we need a stop. Let's go.

Nick O
03-10-2014, 09:53 PM
yes DD!

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:53 PM
Put Ross on Pierce.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:53 PM
need a stop coming back

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:54 PM
One thing is for sure... a TOR-BKN playoff match up would be ****ing gold!

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:54 PM
Well... this should be interesting.

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:55 PM
Put Ross on Pierce.

they are playing with 4 wing players and Blatche. I thiink PP is playing hte 4 for them.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
Oh my Ross...

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
DAMN Demar should have drove! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
Why Ross??? WHY?????

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
**** ross! **** **** ****

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
DD shouldve went up for the contact lay up maybe could've gotten a foul/and 1

Nick O
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
ross :/

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:56 PM
OMG. Ross let me down ughhhh.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:57 PM
raps last timeout -- just try the 3 and see what happens.

Jamiecballer
03-10-2014, 09:57 PM
can't breath!

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 09:57 PM
learning experience for ross. gotta be stronger with the ball. you had the right idea.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:58 PM
2 for 1 i dont know always a risk.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:58 PM
No timeouts, Raps need to go for the quick 2. Then foul.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:58 PM
raps lost. good night.

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 09:58 PM
Game over.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
**** This good game but damn Ross costly turnover.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
damn miss the other!!

Tmath
03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
What a crappy ending to a good game.

Rego247
03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
Thats game gents.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
Damn we would have been 10 games over!

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 10:00 PM
lowry should miss on purpose... steal and try the 3

koreancabbage
03-10-2014, 10:00 PM
don't tell me that was the play Casey. please don't.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 10:00 PM
wow damn.

Sanyo
03-10-2014, 10:01 PM
that 5 sec violation came back to bite the raps! lost momentum there.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 10:02 PM
DD shouldve went up for the contact lay up maybe could've gotten a foul/and 1

This. He had the advantage on the break.

Jays Claw
03-10-2014, 10:03 PM
Oh well... time to watch the Leafs.

Good game but **** we should have had this one. The 2nd Q and Ross/DD with costly turnovers late ****ed it up.

Rego247
03-10-2014, 10:03 PM
No excuses for this one. They were a better team tonight.

phantasyyy
03-10-2014, 10:03 PM
good fact we just lost to the wiz bulls and nets all potential playoff matchups

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 10:05 PM
Did not like what I saw today from Derozan at all. Became passive late, he's gotta step up for this team to be successful.

jsumadchat
03-10-2014, 10:07 PM
hell of a game... can't be mad. BAD turnover from ross, but DeMar was no better at this stage of his career, he will learn and i'm damn excited about what him and val can do. ONLY team in the playoff discussion starting two sophomores playing pretty big roles on the team. and STILL 8 games over .500. be happy boys, be happy.

MoneyBall20
03-10-2014, 10:09 PM
good fact we just lost to the wiz bulls and nets all potential playoff matchups

The only good thing nets won is,it moves them up,so raptors don't play them in the playoffs.Lowry is a bull dog,u know some guys that are made for playofffs,he is. No Fear..
Demar,so disappointed,Demar gotta bring it..Ross,still young..it's good lesson.
I'm p!@@ed that raptors lossed,but u can't win them all,close game and raptors already stole one game from nets. All an all,better days ahead.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 10:09 PM
Good news, BK plays Miami next game.

Jamiecballer
03-10-2014, 10:13 PM
deflating that we lost but that was great entertainment right up to the end. can't wait for playoff basketball.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 10:16 PM
Another thing, BK isn't a good road team so that gives us a good grasp if we do face them in the playoffs.

jsumadchat
03-10-2014, 10:17 PM
i get that the numbers might lead on that demar didnt have a good game but it wasnt his fault. its not like he missed easy looks, or made bad plays. the nets play good D and they essentially shut him down. what he has to learn is how to beat defences when they load up on him off the ball, and he and the raps had no answer for that tonight. i'm fine with one loss after every 3 wins, thats essentially what has happened as of late. and our last three losses were ONLY by a combined margin of 11 points. that tells me that for the most part, the team is learning to play tough basketball for a more consistent period of the game. that is KEY in the playoffs.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 10:21 PM
We need Patman back

jsumadchat
03-10-2014, 10:23 PM
deflating that we lost but that was great entertainment right up to the end. can't wait for playoff basketball.

yeah i was impressed. BK is one of the hottest teams in the league right now. just sucks that we had to face BK, WSH, and CHI all in the middle of impressive runs and lose all three games.

as a fan you still really have to look at it like this:

the team has surpassed ANY raptor fan's wildest expectations for this season, and they have proven thus far, that it isnt smoke and mirrors. we are by no means a finished product, but boy can these guys compete with ANYONE in the league and i can say that i never saw any of this coming. enjoy the ride guys.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 10:24 PM
The next 6 games are absolutely crucial now.

Raps have to win 2 of the next 3 at home. Then we have a mini road-trip in ATL (Hard to play there) & New Orleans on a back 2 back.

Detroit
Memphis
Phoenix
@ATL
@New Orleans
OKC

There is a serious potential to slid a bit in the standings over the next 6 games. Especially without Patterson in the lineup.

jsumadchat
03-10-2014, 10:27 PM
The next 6 games are absolutely crucial now.

Raps have to win 2 of the next 3 at home. Then we have a mini road-trip in ATL (Hard to play there) & New Orleans on a back 2 back.

Detroit
Memphis
Phoenix
@ATL
@New Orleans
OKC

There is a serious potential to slid a bit in the standings over the next 6 games. Especially without Patterson in the lineup.

as much as i see us going 3-3, i thinks theres a good probability we go 5-1 or 2-4 as well lol

SA5195
03-10-2014, 10:27 PM
Not surprised, something was missing for me to believe the Raps would win today.

gwrighter
03-10-2014, 10:28 PM
as much as i see us going 3-3, i thinks theres a good probability we go 5-1 or 2-4 as well lol

Haha yeah exactly. If the Raptors can somehow win the next 3 at home then they'd be in good shape heading out on the road.

ink
03-10-2014, 10:29 PM
We need Patman back

Definitely missed him.

Glenfidish
03-10-2014, 10:30 PM
We need demar to grow some balls for the games that matter! Lowry is an outright beast.. Kudos to a few of you a couple years back that followed lowry from the houston rocket days. I know some of you were extremely high on the guy. I knew nothing about him. Today as it stands we must sign him to a long term contract. We could not afford to lose him.

By the way was it only me or did anyone else get sick and tired of jack armstrong tooting pierce's horn? He went on and on about respect for him. For myself its the last thing i want to hear during commentating. **** pierce! Lets go raps...

Tmath
03-10-2014, 10:33 PM
Disappointing the way we lost. But at the same time, what they did to us, we have done to other teams all season long.

Tmath
03-10-2014, 10:34 PM
I look forward to the day Pierce retires. He's been killing the Raps for years.

jsumadchat
03-10-2014, 10:36 PM
Disappointing the way we lost. But at the same time, what they did to us, we have done to other teams all season long.

very true. it was bound to happen to us sooner or later, getting out worked and out grinded. our last couple losses to these three teams have been that exactly. but again, we're 9-3 in that stretch so to quote lil wayne 'i aint got no worries'.

jsumadchat
03-10-2014, 10:37 PM
seems like just yesterday we were 6-12 and the tank was getting shined up.... how things change.

GodsSon
03-10-2014, 11:16 PM
Tough loss, but just a minor setback in the grand scheme of things.

Get Detroit on Wednesday.

BHF
03-11-2014, 12:21 AM
I was cursed out not to long ago for saying Lowry is a top 10 pg in the league by one raptor fan here. But its all good its not like his post got deleted or anything :)

Raps Insider 12
03-11-2014, 12:22 AM
Once again great effort, another tough loss. Yes, Lowry was just an absolute beast.

Let Chicago face these guys in the first round and let us worry how to stop John Wall and company.

It's easier for us to drop one spot down than Brooklyn taking 5th place from the Wiz considering that the Nets have a tougher schedule than the Wiz.

nandovelez
03-11-2014, 03:15 AM
Hey nets fan here. It was a great game last night how far Toronto has come along is great to see.. both teams I believe might be dangerous come playoff time

Jays Claw
03-11-2014, 08:33 AM
Hey nets fan here. It was a great game last night how far Toronto has come along is great to see.. both teams I believe might be dangerous come playoff time

Yeah, like I said.. a TOR-BKN playoff match up would be amazing. I would bet money that it goes to 7 games.

killersweet
03-11-2014, 09:38 AM
Great game. In close games, sometimes things go the other way, especially on the road. As much as this would be an entertaining match up during the playoffs, I would rather face the Wiz. Nets have too many Veterans and PP and KG will bring their playoff experience to the mix. Let's close out the 3rd spot.

LanceUpperCut
03-11-2014, 11:16 AM
Tough loss, to many turnovers and shoot horrible at the 3pt line tonight. I think Casey needs to ride the hot hand a little more, I know he has a nice rotation and likes to stick to it but Ross was on fire then sits out way to long, same with Jonas but I understand since Tyler was playing so well.

aman_13
03-11-2014, 12:33 PM
I missed the game but with Patt out, I felt a lost coming. Still a close game and it looks like it went down to late game execution and the Raps fell short. They should bounce back against the Pistons.

koreancabbage
03-11-2014, 01:51 PM
Tough loss, to many turnovers and shoot horrible at the 3pt line tonight. I think Casey needs to ride the hot hand a little more, I know he has a nice rotation and likes to stick to it but Ross was on fire then sits out way to long, same with Jonas but I understand since Tyler was playing so well.

not even that. they don't give him a touch or get him involved. most plays after the first quarter they just stuck Ross into the corner. and then when the Raps want him to score, he was stone cold. the dude is a second year player who can score but needs to at least give the guy some touches to get into the flow of the game.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 03:21 PM
I saw andre friggen blatche dominating our bigs through various parts of the game last night.

we essentially have 4 pf's and 1 VERY young center. If MU really wanted to see this team have any success in the post season this year he would have signed a legit back up C. even someone cheap like gooden could have sufficed. this team aint going no where in the post season with out a stronger presence inside.

If we all know this ? how can management not ? clearly they know and for some reason just arent adressing it. which is very very very annoying.

LanceUpperCut
03-11-2014, 03:36 PM
I saw andre friggen blatche dominating our bigs through various parts of the game last night.

we essentially have 4 pf's and 1 VERY young center. If MU really wanted to see this team have any success in the post season this year he would have signed a legit back up C. even someone cheap like gooden could have sufficed. this team aint going no where in the post season with out a stronger presence inside.

If we all know this ? how can management not ? clearly they know and for some reason just arent adressing it. which is very very very annoying.

We don't all know this though, that's your opinion and I do agree with it somewhat but their really wasn't anyone much better if better at all available. Guy's like Kaman and Hawes are good offensively but in no way are they a defensive presence, which is what MU would looking for I'd think. Scoring isn't the issue and guys like Jonas, PP and Hansbough all need their minutes.

I guess it looks worse cause PP is out but that wasn't anticipated and really Hayes does a deceent job if he is in small doses and doesn't even attempt to score at all.

killersweet
03-11-2014, 03:50 PM
I saw andre friggen blatche dominating our bigs through various parts of the game last night.

we essentially have 4 pf's and 1 VERY young center. If MU really wanted to see this team have any success in the post season this year he would have signed a legit back up C. even someone cheap like gooden could have sufficed. this team aint going no where in the post season with out a stronger presence inside.

If we all know this ? how can management not ? clearly they know and for some reason just arent adressing it. which is very very very annoying.

MU has indicated several times that this is not a make or break year. Even if they succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team if it doesn't fit his vision. I don't think he is putting much stock in to this year's success. Otherwise he could have easily picked up Hawes, Gooden or even Kwame brown for some insurance.

lajoie
03-11-2014, 03:51 PM
I saw andre friggen blatche dominating our bigs through various parts of the game last night.

we essentially have 4 pf's and 1 VERY young center. If MU really wanted to see this team have any success in the post season this year he would have signed a legit back up C. even someone cheap like gooden could have sufficed. this team aint going no where in the post season with out a stronger presence inside.

If we all know this ? how can management not ? clearly they know and for some reason just arent adressing it. which is very very very annoying.

Its pretty obvious the goal remains the same which is continued development of the young players like ross, valanciiunas etc. Playoff success is just the side product

ink
03-11-2014, 04:13 PM
MU has indicated several times that this is not a make or break year. Even if they succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team if it doesn't fit his vision. I don't think he is putting much stock in to this year's success. Otherwise he could have easily picked up Hawes, Gooden or even Kwame brown for some insurance.

I'm hoping he doesn't put any more stock in playoff success than he does in regular season win totals. I agree that it's not the point right now.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 04:13 PM
MU has indicated several times that this is not a make or break year. Even if they succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team if it doesn't fit his vision. I don't think he is putting much stock in to this year's success. Otherwise he could have easily picked up Hawes, Gooden or even Kwame brown for some insurance.

I dont buy it. how you can say "even if the raps succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team" he has emphasized plenty of times how much he values chemistry and how hard it is to come by.

if the team shows success in the playoffs ( which is a true measure of success in the nba) I would think he would want to build on this core, not break it up.

Also If we signed gooden for the rest of the season, it wouldnt have effected any long term flexability. so why not do it when you have such a glaring hole in your rotation ? sorry but that theory makes no sense. Not like were comitting to a role player on a vet min contract long term.

LanceUpperCut
03-11-2014, 04:16 PM
MU has indicated several times that this is not a make or break year. Even if they succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team if it doesn't fit his vision. I don't think he is putting much stock in to this year's success. Otherwise he could have easily picked up Hawes, Gooden or even Kwame brown for some insurance.

I don't think Hawes would be worth the two seconds plus the Raps would of needed to make the money work going back and he's a ****** defender, Drew is pretty much just another PF like the others we have just worse and Kwame would do nothing cause he's a useless bum.

ink
03-11-2014, 04:18 PM
I dont buy it. how you can say "even if the raps succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team" he has emphasized plenty of times how much he values chemistry and how hard it is to come by.

if the team shows success in the playoffs ( which is a true measure of success in the nba) I would think he would want to build on this core, not break it up.

Also If we signed gooden for the rest of the season, it wouldnt have effected any long term flexability. so why not do it when you have such a glaring hole in your rotation ? sorry but that theory makes no sense. Not like were comitting to a role player on a vet min contract long term.

All depends on what he sees as the ceiling or potential of the individuals and the team as a unit.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 04:19 PM
I'm hoping he doesn't put any more stock in playoff success than he does in regular season win totals. I agree that it's not the point right now.

forgive me if I mis understood you inkers, but what ?? how can you NOT put more stock in playoff success than regular season success?? the post season is the true measure in this league.

grant it a first round win wouldnt be overly impressive. but if we can push an elite team like the heat or pacers to a competative round two, then the team has emerged in to a playoff contender.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 04:20 PM
All depends on what he sees as the ceiling or potential of the individuals and the team as a unit.

and thats why he couldnt sign a back up big man for the remainder of the season ? how would it have hamstringed his vision for next year or the future ?

ink
03-11-2014, 04:27 PM
forgive me if I mis understood you inkers, but what ?? how can you NOT put more stock in playoff success than regular season success?? the post season is the true measure in this league.

grant it a first round win wouldnt be overly impressive. but if we can push an elite team like the heat or pacers to a competative round two, then the team has emerged in to a playoff contender.

It's premature. These guys need to show they can win over a long period of time. One successful regular season and one playoffs is not the goal here. If this team is on an arc together, it's going to have to be a long term arc where change is going to have to be a reality until they really build something.

I'm enjoying the team, but honestly, we're middle of the pack now, ranked about 12th right now IIRC. The goal is to figure out how to break out of that group.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 04:28 PM
Its pretty obvious the goal remains the same which is continued development of the young players like ross, valanciiunas etc. Playoff success is just the side product

two of our starters are sophmores. they are developing! but the raptors will be exposed in a 7 game series with out depth at the 5.

imagine jonas in practice going up against PF's.. all under sized. and then having to go out there and compete with against monsters ... how does that help his development ?

were not talking about signing someont to take minutes from jonas. Were talking about getting him a legit back up and someone to go hard against in practice.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 04:36 PM
It's premature. These guys need to show they can win over a long period of time. One successful regular season and one playoffs is not the goal here. If this team is on an arc together, it's going to have to be a long term arc where change is going to have to be a reality until they really build something.

I'm enjoying the team, but honestly, we're middle of the pack now, ranked about 12th right now IIRC. The goal is to figure out how to break out of that group.

Ink are you keeping in mind how young our starting line up is when making a statement like this " These guys need to show they can win over a long period of time. One successful regular season and one playoffs is not the goal here" because for a ross, jonas, and even amir, lowry, and derozan its a heck of a good start to have a good season and have some playoff success. thats what you build off.

but no they wont seperate themselves yet because 2 of the starters are still sophmores and learning. on top of that they dont have legit back ups who can come in a fill that void on nights when the young guys hit a learning curb.

you dont need stone, buicks, decolo, hayes, so why not cut one of them and sign a big man which you know could help your young center in practice ? and maybe even help out in your playoff run ?? since after all you didnt rebuild so that you can compete this year. right ?

ink
03-11-2014, 04:38 PM
and thats why he couldnt sign a back up big man for the remainder of the season ? how would it have hamstringed his vision for next year or the future ?

He's not concerned with post-season success at this point.

ink
03-11-2014, 04:49 PM
Ink are you keeping in mind how young our starting line up is when making a statement like this " These guys need to show they can win over a long period of time. One successful regular season and one playoffs is not the goal here" because for a ross, jonas, and even amir, lowry, and derozan its a heck of a good start to have a good season and have some playoff success. thats what you build off.

Yes, that's the point, they need to establish themselves over a longer period of time. And no, I don't think playoff experience matters as much as some say. Not at this point. Steady development over time is what matters, not a hard push with a bit of a wild card team.


but no they wont seperate themselves yet because 2 of the starters are still sophmores and learning. on top of that they dont have legit back ups who can come in a fill that void on nights when the young guys hit a learning curb.

You'll have to ask him why he didn't fill those back up roles. It looks like he values overall development over any possibly misleading successes this year.

killersweet
03-11-2014, 05:15 PM
I dont buy it. how you can say "even if the raps succeed this year in the playoffs, I can see him breaking up the team" he has emphasized plenty of times how much he values chemistry and how hard it is to come by.

if the team shows success in the playoffs ( which is a true measure of success in the nba) I would think he would want to build on this core, not break it up.

Also If we signed gooden for the rest of the season, it wouldnt have effected any long term flexability. so why not do it when you have such a glaring hole in your rotation ? sorry but that theory makes no sense. Not like were comitting to a role player on a vet min contract long term.

From what I have heard from him, I kind of sense it that he seems to be focusing on long term planning. Even when the team was playing well, he wasn't afraid to dangle Lowry out to see if someone would bite the higher asking price. So to me at least he seems like he is still evaluating the team. We all know he could have easily signed a back up center for a cheap price and without affecting the future plans. But why didn't he? He knows our front court will be exposed during the playoffs. I think he would care about the team's performance during these playoffs, but I don't think he is too focused on the success of this year's playoffs. that's just my opinion.

killersweet
03-11-2014, 05:17 PM
I don't think Hawes would be worth the two seconds plus the Raps would of needed to make the money work going back and he's a ****** defender, Drew is pretty much just another PF like the others we have just worse and Kwame would do nothing cause he's a useless bum.

I am not sure how much of a fit Hawes is with the raptors, but I do think he is worth the 2nd rounders. Especially if the raptors are gonna be a contender from now on. Drew is a veteran who could have helped the team. He adds depth. Kwame is another body to have in case of injury or some match ups. He may not have the offensive skills, but he can still play some defense.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 05:42 PM
He's not concerned with post-season success at this point.

part of development for a young players is learning how to win in this league. jonas doesnt have a big man coach, no mentor, not even a real C to practice against. but the theory here is that MU values development above all else ? I dont see it. If that was the case, he could do more to help in that regard.

Practising with a true big is essesntial to jonas' development, he isnt going to learn much by posting up a 6'8 player when he has to try to apply those same moves on 7 foot Plus players in real games. practice is suppose to be simulation to a real game, where you learn and improve...

Also the young players on this team are starters. there development is being jump started regardless. adding role players where you have glaring holes does not hinder the young players development. it just means for 15-20 mins of the game when those starters are resting, the team has better reserves to sustain the level of play when the 2nd unit is on the floor..

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 05:54 PM
You'll have to ask him why he didn't fill those back up roles. It looks like he values overall development over any possibly misleading successes this year.

why is post season success meaningless to a 20 year old franchise whos only ever been out of the first round once ?

and if its soo meaningless why did he chose to stay with lowry for this post season run ? and risk losing a major asset for nothing ?

these are contradicting signs from our gm.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 06:09 PM
From what I have heard from him, I kind of sense it that he seems to be focusing on long term planning. Even when the team was playing well, he wasn't afraid to dangle Lowry out to see if someone would bite the higher asking price. So to me at least he seems like he is still evaluating the team. We all know he could have easily signed a back up center for a cheap price and without affecting the future plans. But why didn't he? He knows our front court will be exposed during the playoffs. I think he would care about the team's performance during these playoffs, but I don't think he is too focused on the success of this year's playoffs. that's just my opinion.

Im so confused.

if he in fact was so forcused on long term planning, wouldnt this year have been a good place to start ? considering the draft ? clearly he allowed the team to dictate the direction.

if he chose to keep lowry even after testing his value in the market, doesnt that show he cares a little bit more about the post season than you guys think ? seems pretty evident to me. he is risking losing the best player on the team for it.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 06:36 PM
by now, MU has had ample time to evaluate this team. there is no excuse to not have a plan. the two options were pretty clear, to rebuild this year or stick with the young core and compete.

if the direction was to rebuild, I trully beleive that MU would have traded our players for assets and head to the lottery in a respecable draft class. Instead he chose to risk losing the best player on the team at a shot of competing in the post season. Other wise there would be no reason why he would keep lowry with no gurantees of retaining him and risk losing him for nothing. by doing the above, MU essentially would be losing an asset in lowry, and also an opportunity to draft a good young player.

so to me it seems that MU abandoned rebuilding this season. If that is the case and your young players are starters and are getting alot of minutes, your not going to hinder their development by adressing holes in the rotation for the 2nd unit. were talking about deals that would expire at the end of the season, therefor the future would not be impacted by any comittments either.

regardless, jonas and ross will see rest!! they dont play 48 minutes a game, they both need back up's. attaining those back ups does not hinder their development. It ensures that when the starters are resting the 2nd unit can sustain production.

Also young players benifit from the pressence of veterans who have played their position for years and bring in a lot of experience. so in terms of mentorship it would actually help their development, not hurt it.

I personally beleive that not having a legit back up is actually hurting jonas' development. Imagine how much he could learn from a vet big man in practice. imagine the difference he feels playing against under sized guys in practice and then facing true big men in real games. thats not helpig his development by any means.

The Wise 1
03-11-2014, 07:06 PM
I've heard the line "learning from a backup or legit big coach" plenty of times. Coaching is coaching. There is no secret that bigs have that only they can pass on to a young big.

I also don't think going up against a backup centre in practice would make that much of a difference. It's not like they're going at it in practice. They go over some sets,film, get some shots up and hit the weights. They aren't exactly playing a full out game in practice.

There is nothing Hayes and the coaching staff cant get through to him that a "personal coach could".

Practicing against a seven foot stiff isn't going to help either.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 07:17 PM
I've heard the line "learning from a backup or legit big coach" plenty of times. Coaching is coaching. There is no secret that bigs have that only they can pass on to a young big.

I also don't think going up against a backup centre in practice would make that much of a difference. It's not like they're going at it in practice. They go over some sets,film, get some shots up and hit the weights. They aren't exactly playing a full out game in practice.
There is nothing Hayes and the coaching staff cant get through to him that a "personal coach could".

Practicing against a seven foot stiff isn't going to help either.

Have you ever been on a basketball team ? that couldnt be further from the truth. yes you hav scrimage, you have the weave etc. You also have simulation practice where you do go hard. Practice isnt about going through the motions. You really think every practice is a lite one ? it isnt!

How do you get better at something ? by practicing right ? how does a 7 foot Center get better at defending other 7 foot plus C's ? by gaurding 6'8 players in practice?

plus the mentoring was only part of the point. Does a playoff team not need a real Back up C ? even if their starter is a sophmore ? cmon

The Wise 1
03-11-2014, 07:21 PM
Have you ever been on a basketball team ? that couldnt be further from the truth. yes you hav scrimage, you have the weave etc. You also have simulation practice where you do go hard. Practice isnt about going through the motions. You really think every practice is a lite one ? it isnt!

How do you get better at something ? by practicing right ? how does a 7 foot Center get better at defending other 7 foot plus C's ? by gaurding 6'8 players in practice?

plus the mentoring was only part of the point. Does a playoff team not need a real Back up C ? even if their starter is a sophmore ? cmon

The season is winding down. 90% of the team is probably banged up. They are not out there banging eachother down low and fighting for rebounds.

Who are these 6"8 players that Jonas is practicing against? Practicing against D-League bigs isn't exactly a great way of getting better either.

Well what C could they of got or can get?

killersweet
03-11-2014, 07:27 PM
Im so confused.

if he in fact was so forcused on long term planning, wouldnt this year have been a good place to start ? considering the draft ? clearly he allowed the team to dictate the direction.

if he chose to keep lowry even after testing his value in the market, doesnt that show he cares a little bit more about the post season than you guys think ? seems pretty evident to me. he is risking losing the best player on the team for it.

You have good reasons to be confused. Mainly cuz we really don't know what MU is planning on doing. He tried to trade lowry, but at the same time didn't want to accept mediocore offers. He also had a dilemma of alienating the fanbase by trading lowry when the team is having one of the successful seasons in a long while. Also there is an element of cooperate pressure to sell playoff tickets. Since nobody probably blew him away with an offer for lowry, he decided to keep him for the playoff run. If they have a successful playoff run, he probably hopes that may entice lowry to stay here long term. Again he is letting the team decide the course of action. I thought he may pick up a big body as well. I was surprised when he picked up another pointguard. So his actions have been puzzling. But I still think he is not that high on this playoff run. He is probably surprised by the team's play and probably still waiting to evaluate how they do in the playoffs.

smith&wesson
03-11-2014, 07:29 PM
I've heard the line "learning from a backup or legit big coach" plenty of times. Coaching is coaching. There is no secret that bigs have that only they can pass on to a young big.

I also don't think going up against a backup centre in practice would make that much of a difference. It's not like they're going at it in practice. They go over some sets,film, get some shots up and hit the weights. They aren't exactly playing a full out game in practice.

There is nothing Hayes and the coaching staff cant get through to him that a "personal coach could".
Practicing against a seven foot stiff isn't going to help either.

again, furthest thing from the truth and I disagree.

why do bigmen like howard, bynum, even amare go in the offseason and work with hakeem and other great C's who have played the game ? why did the orlando magic hire pattrick ewing to mentor howard to improve on the offensive end? couldnt howard have just learned that from his coach ?

its not just about having a mentor either, that was only part of the point. The raptors have a hole in their rotation that needs to be filled other wise it will be exposed in a 7 game series. with ease mind you.

The team needs depth at the 5. Our only C is a sophmore. Hayes is a liability and its not his fault he is under sized and being used out of position. The raps need a guy who can come in and give a good 20 mins as a back up C. The raps need that production at the 5 from the 2nd unit.

The Wise 1
03-11-2014, 07:36 PM
again, furthest thing from the truth and I disagree.

why do bigmen like howard, bynum, even amare go in the offseason and work with hakeem and other great C's who have played the game ? why did the orlando magic hire pattrick ewing to mentor howard to improve on the offensive end? couldnt howard have just learned that from his coach ?

its not just about having a mentor either, that was only part of the point. The raptors have a hole in their rotation that needs to be filled other wise it will be exposed in a 7 game series. with ease mind you.

The team needs depth at the 5. Our only C is a sophmore. Hayes is a liability and its not his fault he is under sized and being used out of position. The raps need a guy who can come in and give a good 20 mins as a back up C. The raps need that production at the 5 from the 2nd unit.

How has that worked out for Howard and Josh Smith etc.?

Lol. Every team could use a legit C to backup there starting C. It's to bad there aren't more out there. For the time being, Running out Tyler and Patterson will have to do. I would rather have two PF's that can actually play then have only one and a scrub C.

Again, what could they have done to address the C position?