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Kushed
03-05-2014, 09:43 PM
What a ****ing joke. That is an absolute disgrace to that award. Player of the month no longer means ****.

NBA_Starter
03-05-2014, 09:45 PM
This is definitely a stunning development.

Kushed
03-05-2014, 09:52 PM
Love was arguably the best player in the entire league during the month of February having a stretch of the ages with 34 ppg and 14 rpg going back to the ages of Moses Malone and griffin comes out with it???

hahahahahahahahahah whoever votes for these things has a damn stick up their *** hole

2-ONE-5
03-05-2014, 09:53 PM
lol its not a serious award chill. its not like Blake was bad he was at 30 and 11 on 54% shooting to Loves 34 and 14 on 48% shooting not to mention whose play is leading to winning ball

Ebbs
03-05-2014, 09:53 PM
No it isn't Griffin played out of his mind as well...

His team also won some games which helps. If you want to pat Love on the back for great numbers on a bad team cool but cry else where.

Jamiecballer
03-05-2014, 09:55 PM
as you appear to be either from Minnesota or a Minnesota fan i forgive this overreaction.

DallasTrilla23
03-05-2014, 10:06 PM
No it's not. Love has the better stats for sure but Blake is getting Ws.

Kushed
03-05-2014, 10:09 PM
lol its not a serious award chill. its not like Blake was bad he was at 30 and 11 on 54% shooting to Loves 34 and 14 on 48% shooting not to mention whose play is leading to winning ball

Averaging 3 points more per game in addition to 3 more rebounds per game all the while leading the wolves to 5 wins our of their last 6 in February without their other two best players (pek and Martin) then yes it is an absolute joke

Chronz
03-05-2014, 10:21 PM
OP has a point, except player of the month awards have never meant much to begin with.

I remember when Tmac was snubbed vs Nash for one of these, so I feel your pain

Clippersfan86
03-05-2014, 10:42 PM
Griffin got wins AND put up comparable stats. He scored 3 ppg less last month on 3 shots per game less. It's not a big gap.

Sadds The Gr8
03-05-2014, 11:18 PM
People care about player of the month? Love shouldve won but who cares?

Shammyguy3
03-05-2014, 11:23 PM
Means nothing. I wouldn't call it a disgrace either - it's not like this award was given to a guy that wouldn't start on half the teams in the league.

Pakman
03-05-2014, 11:26 PM
Griffin got wins cause his team is miles better. Put blake on the wolves and they are the clippers before cp3.

ztilzer31
03-05-2014, 11:38 PM
I've been in OP's position before. 3 crap teams in the city. I feel your pain bud, but it's only player of the month, and it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

Hawkeye15
03-05-2014, 11:54 PM
Clips had more wins, and Blake had lesser, but comparable stats.

Who cares...

Jeffy25
03-06-2014, 12:00 AM
Feb

Griffin - 30.0 PPG, 10.7 TRB, 3.8 Assists, 0.8 Steals, 0.4 Blocks, 36 MPG, 54.5 FG%, 67.5 FT%, 23.4 Game Score, 2.3 Turnovers, team went 7-4
Love - 34.0 PPG, 14.1 TRB, 4.0 Assists, 0.8 Steals, 0.4 Blocks, 36.9 MPG, 48.7 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 28.5 Game Score, 2.7 Turnovers, team went 5-6 (5-4 when he was on the court - didn't play in two loses, 2/5 and 2/8)

Griffin is not a bad choice here at all.

Clippersfan86
03-06-2014, 12:25 AM
Griffin got wins cause his team is miles better. Put blake on the wolves and they are the clippers before cp3.

Rookie Griffin won 32 games with the next 3 best players on the team missing a combined 100 games just about. It took Love 6 years to match that. Nevermind the fact that Griffin is a far better player than he was now. So all around dumb and unfounded statement. Love is a little better but people need to stop acting like there isva huge gap.

vdv36
03-06-2014, 12:32 AM
Kinda hard to get player of the month when your Team sucks.... If wolves had a winning record and where in playoff contention they'd be talking about love with the likes of LBJ and Durant. Melo's been killing it this month too... Nothing on him except trade rumors..


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Clippersfan86
03-06-2014, 02:38 AM
Btw Griffin went 8-4 this month with Paul missing 4 games, Redick 9.

Jeffy25
03-06-2014, 03:00 AM
Btw Griffin went 8-4 this month with Paul missing 4 games, Redick 9.

7-4, they only played 11 games in Feb. (5-2 with Paul).

Baller1
03-06-2014, 03:06 AM
Love should've won, but who cares... I didn't realize people took these awards so serious.

LAcowBOMBER
03-06-2014, 03:28 AM
I agree with OP, but I care a lot less. For people saying it's close, yeah it is but Love was definitely a little better. And 7-4 compared to 5-4 is not enough to make up that difference

Guppyfighter
03-06-2014, 03:36 AM
Love was the obvious choice here.

Avenged
03-06-2014, 03:40 AM
Relax..

mngopher35
03-06-2014, 03:45 AM
Ya, Love should have won but it isn't a big deal at all. Both of these guys had a fantastic month.

Chrisclover
03-06-2014, 03:52 AM
Another force to drive him out of Minny. Not even a Player of the Month Award. Man, this is so debilitating, what else can he love being in Minny ?

Method28
03-06-2014, 06:06 AM
Griffiinnnn FORCCEEE!

BULLSFAN0810
03-06-2014, 09:45 AM
you guys smoking cat food?
blake has been w/o cp3 and still winning. top record. now compare it to a potential stat stuffer on a bad team. i can go on but ........

1-800-STFU
03-06-2014, 09:48 AM
Who cares its just player of the month

2-ONE-5
03-06-2014, 10:55 AM
Averaging 3 points more per game in addition to 3 more rebounds per game all the while leading the wolves to 5 wins our of their last 6 in February without their other two best players (pek and Martin) then yes it is an absolute joke

lol get over it. Blake shot 54% for the month and didnt have the luxury to stat pad with players out

mngopher35
03-06-2014, 11:04 AM
you guys smoking cat food?
blake has been w/o cp3 and still winning. top record. now compare it to a potential stat stuffer on a bad team. i can go on but ........

They were 5-4 with Love, 0-2 without and as pointed out Blake was 5-2 with cp3 and 2-2 without in February.

Clippers won 2 games with blake having a game score of 12.5,12.7 (22 pts 4 reb 3 assists), the worst Love played in a win in February was game score of 25.2 (31pts 17reb 3 ast). Love's stats are a bit inflated because of his teammates but he usually needs great games for us to be in or win games. Love hasn't had a game score under 13 with the Wolves winning this year.

John Walls Era
03-06-2014, 12:03 PM
Maybe if Love did something hes never done in his career, he would've won.

Called winning.

JasonJohnHorn
03-06-2014, 02:50 PM
Blake vs. Love?

Blake played huge while Paul was out.

Love played huge while having next to no help.

They are both awesome. One got more points and more rebounds, the other got more wins, steals, blocks, assists and shot at a higher percentage.

What are you going to do?

But at the end of the day, er, month, does it really matter? Can you even remember who won Western Conference Player of the Month for November? Last season the Coach of the month got fired the month after he won the award.

Player of the Month doesn't mean much more than Line of the Night in the grand scheme of things. It's not like people say: "Joe Dumars never won player of the month! WTF is he doing in the HOF?"

KnicksorBust
03-06-2014, 03:49 PM
If he was more than 1 game over .500 in the month or shot over 50% from the field then come talk to me.

mngopher35
03-06-2014, 04:50 PM
Griffin had TS% of .592, Love had TS% of .643. Not sure why we are using that against love here...

TheIlladelph16
03-06-2014, 04:55 PM
"Disgrace" might be a bit of a stretch here.

Ebbs
03-06-2014, 05:11 PM
What a ****ing joke. That is an absolute disgrace to that award. Player of the month no longer means ****.

Lol I'm still laughing.

What a salty homer.

Has Minnesota basketball got so bad that not winning a prestigious player of the month award upsets you this deeply?

Kushed
03-06-2014, 07:16 PM
Lol I'm still laughing.

What a salty homer.

Has Minnesota basketball got so bad that not winning a prestigious player of the month award upsets you this deeply?

Deeply upset? Hahahahah it's a ****ing forum where complaining about stupid things is the norm. Didn't lose one second of sleep over it and really don't care much. Just pathetic that awards are so terribly judged in the NBA with little consistency.

The fans deserve better than to have the popular choice always chosen.

Again, I find it more hilarious that some of you fools think I'm weeping in a corner about this.

It's still a disgrace but words can be exaggerated on the internet. Get over yourself.

sunsfan88
03-06-2014, 08:27 PM
Griffin actually wins games.

Chrisclover
03-06-2014, 11:32 PM
Is there a real trophy for player of the Month ?

TheNumber37
03-06-2014, 11:43 PM
haven't the Wolves been losing all thee games?

Hawkeye15
03-06-2014, 11:47 PM
Griffin actually wins games.

all by himself? Amazing

sixer04fan
03-06-2014, 11:54 PM
Who the **** cares? Player of the month lol

sunsfan88
03-07-2014, 07:39 AM
all by himself? Amazing
No but he leads his team to wins. The Clippers team without CP3 aren't much more talented than the team that Love has had and yet Griffin put up a much higher % without CP3 than Love has anytime this season.

Ebbs
03-07-2014, 11:05 AM
all by himself? Amazing
No but he leads his team to wins. The Clippers team without CP3 aren't much more talented than the team that Love has had and yet Griffin put up a much higher % without CP3 than Love has anytime this season.

I agree

mngopher35
03-07-2014, 11:09 AM
No but he leads his team to wins. The Clippers team without CP3 aren't much more talented than the team that Love has had and yet Griffin put up a much higher % without CP3 than Love has anytime this season.

I am not sure how many wolves games you watch but our depth isn't anywhere close to the Clippers and they certainly are the better team even without cp3. As I stated earlier if Love doesn't have a very good game we are almost certain to lose.

I have no problem with someone arguing Griffin higher than love overall, but lets not just throw untrue statements out there (not just you, people using the fg% when love had higher TS%, using feb records when Blake was 2-2 without Paul this month and love was 5-4 total etc).

Before anyone comments no I don't care about the player of the month. I don't know who wins it any month unless a discussion like this comes about.

MonroeFAN
03-07-2014, 11:52 AM
Player of the month no longer means ****.


When did player of the month mean anything?

PurpleLynch
03-07-2014, 12:27 PM
This "trophy" is relevant just in Nba 2k,the more you take,the more you are close to the Mvp(ah and also you have to be 1st in your conference,but that's not the point of my post).

MonroeFAN
03-07-2014, 01:04 PM
^awesome siggy... probably my favorite scene from my favorite movie.

Baller1
03-07-2014, 01:10 PM
No but he leads his team to wins. The Clippers team without CP3 aren't much more talented than the team that Love has had and yet Griffin put up a much higher % without CP3 than Love has anytime this season.

The Clippers are insurmountably more talented than Minny, even without CP3. Love has much less to work with.

TheIlladelph16
03-07-2014, 01:25 PM
^awesome siggy... probably my favorite scene from my favorite movie.

Is that Brando in Apocalypse Now?

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-07-2014, 02:37 PM
Who cares its just player of the month

I care, it hurts my feelings

PurpleLynch
03-07-2014, 05:16 PM
Is that Brando in Apocalypse Now?

Yep,my favourite film I'd say.

PurpleLynch
03-07-2014, 05:19 PM
^awesome siggy... probably my favorite scene from my favorite movie.

Thanks,it's mine favourite film too.With 2001:A space odyssey. But anyway,Apocalypse now is really breath-taking.Such a joy watching that film.

sunsfan88
03-08-2014, 04:08 AM
The Clippers are insurmountably more talented than Minny, even without CP3. Love has much less to work with.

Jamal Crawford, DeAndre Jordan and scrubs or Kevin Martin, Nikola Pekvoic and scrubs?

I wouldn't say that Clippers without CP3 are "insurmountably" more talented than Minny. And that's not just because I had to look up the definition for "insurmountably" but also because I don't believe it to be true.

slashsnake
03-08-2014, 04:33 AM
A lot more talented sure. based on 82games numbers which are as of last week...

When Love is off the court Minnesota gets outscored by about 8 points per 100 possessions Minnesota outscored opponents by 8.9 points per when he is out there.

When Griffin is off the court the Clippers still outscore their opponents by about 3 points per 100 posessions and 8.5 pts per when he is on the court.

Griffin's numbers there really are good. That is impressive. a 5.5 point swing with him per 100 possessions is huge.

But I've never seen anything close to the 17 point swing with Love ever.

That is pretty insane. Basically Milwaukee Bucks bad scoring differential without him, and better than OKC scoring differential with him out there.

Kushed
03-08-2014, 05:13 AM
Jamal Crawford, DeAndre Jordan and scrubs or Kevin Martin, Nikola Pekvoic and scrubs?

I wouldn't say that Clippers without CP3 are "insurmountably" more talented than Minny. And that's not just because I had to look up the definition for "insurmountably" but also because I don't believe it to be true.

Ummmm what..........?????


JJ Redick, Barnes, Dudley, Collison?? All very good players bench players who can hit shots and make plays

compared to the likes of who?? ill tell you who

chase budinger, mbah moute, alexy shved, robbie hummel, shabazz mohammed, corey brewer...

lol and you're about to tell me "crawford, jordan, and scrubs" lol please

Kushed
03-08-2014, 05:13 AM
the clippers are one of the most stacked teams in the league from top to bottom and you're about to sit here and say that they aren't more "insormountably talented"... do you watch basketball??

Kushed
03-08-2014, 05:22 AM
A lot more talented sure. based on 82games numbers which are as of last week...

When Love is off the court Minnesota gets outscored by about 8 points per 100 possessions Minnesota outscored opponents by 8.9 points per when he is out there.

When Griffin is off the court the Clippers still outscore their opponents by about 3 points per 100 posessions and 8.5 pts per when he is on the court.

Griffin's numbers there really are good. That is impressive. a 5.5 point swing with him per 100 possessions is huge.

But I've never seen anything close to the 17 point swing with Love ever.

That is pretty insane. Basically Milwaukee Bucks bad scoring differential without him, and better than OKC scoring differential with him out there.

This times 1,000,000

rhino17
03-08-2014, 05:25 AM
Ill take Blake over Love every day of the week

Kushed
03-08-2014, 05:29 AM
Ill take Blake over Love every day of the week

It would be funny to see if you said the same thing if each player swapped teams...

Oh wait YOU WOULDNT

slashsnake
03-08-2014, 06:19 AM
This times 1,000,000

It's just scary odd how wide apart those numbers are for Love. I know there could be some situational ball which can affect that. They could play Love and Minnesota's top 4 other guys only against their opponents deep bench and push for that. They could have sat him against the top teams (They lost by 16 a game in his 3 missed games). But he plays a normal rotation like any other star.

I really had to double check that those numbers made sense elsewhere. Here's a guy in the top 10 of the league in plus minus, on a .500 team. His plus minus is higher than Lebron and 3 points over a season off of Durant.

All of the top 30 come from great winning record teams (OKC, SA, Mia, Ind, Hou, Portland, GS) except three, Love and two of his teammates. A .500 record team and he's up there with those guys. John Wall at 47th is the next highest player in terms of plus minus on a .500 type team.

tredigs
03-08-2014, 06:22 AM
Way to not back up your statement what-so-ever and make your case in the thread you made, chief. Are we here just to cater to your whining/venting, or do you want to make a case? ****ing children.

dodie53
03-08-2014, 06:36 AM
Ws > Ls

Guppyfighter
03-08-2014, 07:42 AM
Like Love wouldn't win on that Clippers team.

Kushed
03-08-2014, 07:50 AM
Way to not back up your statement what-so-ever and make your case in the thread you made, chief. Are we here just to cater to your whining/venting, or do you want to make a case? ****ing children.

Some things don't need to be backed up.

3 more ppg
3 more rpg

And a win/loss nearly identical is all I needed so say which I did end up say a few posts later lol gtfo you child

mightybosstone
03-08-2014, 11:33 AM
Some things don't need to be backed up.

3 more ppg
3 more rpg

And a win/loss nearly identical is all I needed so say which I did end up say a few posts later lol gtfo you child

EVERYTHING you post in this forum should be able to be backed up, especially if you're going to be so bold as to start a thread over it. Plus, you're looking only at the face value of basic stats with no context for those numbers whatsoever.

mightybosstone
03-08-2014, 11:52 AM
I'd like to play devil's advocate here, because while Love's numbers are impressive, I probably would have given the award to Griffin as well. Here's why:

1. Love as a substantial edge in points and rebounds, but Griffin has a massive edge (roughly 6%) in FG%. If you factored in Love's free throws and 3-point shooting, they would probably boast a similar TS%, so it's not that significant, but it is a point worth making.

2. Sample size. Love played in 9 of his team's 11 games in February, with those two games he missed against big playoff teams (Portland, OKC) that Minnesota actually played pretty closely. Griffin played in 11 of his team's games. You can't ignore this point, because Griffin kept up his ridiculous stats while playing every game in the month while Love missed two games in an already short month.

3. Team success. Yeah, this matters. LA was 7-4 in those 11 games, while Minnesota was 5-6 (or 5-4 if you discount the two games Love missed). Both teams are fighting for playoff seeds in a tough Western Conference and Griffin has consistently led the Clippers to wins in spite of major injuries to some of his best teammates and kept LA among the top 4 seeds. Love has not.

4. Strength of schedule. Blake played 7 .500+ playoff teams in February, while Love played only 4. I would argue that Blake also had bigger performances when it mattered most against the best teams in the league. That game he had in the loss to Miami was insane (43/15/6), and he had monster games against Toronto, Portland, San Antonio and Houston. Love's games against Indy and Phoenix were pretty ridiculous, but he was underwhelming against Houston and Portland. I am not impressed by Love dominating Utah, Atlanta or Denver.

5. Who gives a ****? This is probably the point everyone should seriously consider. "Player of the month" isn't exactly something that impacts your resume when people talk about your career 20 years from now. No one is saying "Man, I can't believe Griffin beat out Love for Western Conference Player of the Month back in February 2014" or "Wow! Griffin won WCPOM one time in 2014?!?! Clearly that guy is a Hall of Famer!" It's a nice award to hang your hat on during the regular season, but it hardly matters over the course of a season, and it certainly doesn't matter over the course of a career. Both guys were deserving. One guy won it over the other despite the other guy posting better stats. Love can live with it, and so can you.

tredigs
03-08-2014, 12:28 PM
I'd like to play devil's advocate here, because while Love's numbers are impressive, I probably would have given the award to Griffin as well. Here's why:

1. Love as a substantial edge in points and rebounds, but Griffin has a massive edge (roughly 6%) in FG%. If you factored in Love's free throws and 3-point shooting, they would probably boast a similar TS%, so it's not that significant, but it is a point worth making.

2. Sample size. Love played in 9 of his team's 11 games in February, with those two games he missed against big playoff teams (Portland, OKC) that Minnesota actually played pretty closely. Griffin played in 11 of his team's games. You can't ignore this point, because Griffin kept up his ridiculous stats while playing every game in the month while Love missed two games in an already short month.

3. Team success. Yeah, this matters. LA was 7-4 in those 11 games, while Minnesota was 5-6 (or 5-4 if you discount the two games Love missed). Both teams are fighting for playoff seeds in a tough Western Conference and Griffin has consistently led the Clippers to wins in spite of major injuries to some of his best teammates and kept LA among the top 4 seeds. Love has not.

4. Strength of schedule. Blake played 7 .500+ playoff teams in February, while Love played only 4. I would argue that Blake also had bigger performances when it mattered most against the best teams in the league. That game he had in the loss to Miami was insane (43/15/6), and he had monster games against Toronto, Portland, San Antonio and Houston. Love's games against Indy and Phoenix were pretty ridiculous, but he was underwhelming against Houston and Portland. I am not impressed by Love dominating Utah, Atlanta or Denver.

5. Who gives a ****? This is probably the point everyone should seriously consider. "Player of the month" isn't exactly something that impacts your resume when people talk about your career 20 years from now. No one is saying "Man, I can't believe Griffin beat out Love for Western Conference Player of the Month back in February 2014" or "Wow! Griffin won WCPOM one time in 2014?!?! Clearly that guy is a Hall of Famer!" It's a nice award to hang your hat on during the regular season, but it hardly matters over the course of a season, and it certainly doesn't matter over the course of a career. Both guys were deserving. One guy won it over the other despite the other guy posting better stats. Love can live with it, and so can you.

His thread did not deserve this post, but solid reasoning none the less. This Kushed kid is a wreck.

Kushed
03-08-2014, 05:51 PM
His thread did not deserve this post, but solid reasoning none the less. This Kushed kid is a wreck.


hey bite me bro



A lot more talented sure. based on 82games numbers which are as of last week...

When Love is off the court Minnesota gets outscored by about 8 points per 100 possessions Minnesota outscored opponents by 8.9 points per when he is out there.

When Griffin is off the court the Clippers still outscore their opponents by about 3 points per 100 posessions and 8.5 pts per when he is on the court.

Griffin's numbers there really are good. That is impressive. a 5.5 point swing with him per 100 possessions is huge.

But I've never seen anything close to the 17 point swing with Love ever.

That is pretty insane. Basically Milwaukee Bucks bad scoring differential without him, and better than OKC scoring differential with him out there.

Missing56&33
03-08-2014, 06:53 PM
I'm more and more impressed every time I see BG play. Well deserved ....

Some of you knuckleheads think Cousins is better than Blake :facepalm:

Stop hatin in Blake.

mngopher35
03-08-2014, 07:03 PM
I'd like to play devil's advocate here, because while Love's numbers are impressive, I probably would have given the award to Griffin as well. Here's why:

1. Love as a substantial edge in points and rebounds, but Griffin has a massive edge (roughly 6%) in FG%. If you factored in Love's free throws and 3-point shooting, they would probably boast a similar TS%, so it's not that significant, but it is a point worth making.

I already posted this but Griffin had TS% of .592, Love had TS% of .643. I don't blame you for not searching through and finding this but lets just stop using FG% to compare someone who took 7.2 3's per game to someone who took .9 3's per game.


2. Sample size. Love played in 9 of his team's 11 games in February, with those two games he missed against big playoff teams (Portland, OKC) that Minnesota actually played pretty closely. Griffin played in 11 of his team's games. You can't ignore this point, because Griffin kept up his ridiculous stats while playing every game in the month while Love missed two games in an already short month.

Not gonna argue this, it should be noted.


3. Team success. Yeah, this matters. LA was 7-4 in those 11 games, while Minnesota was 5-6 (or 5-4 if you discount the two games Love missed). Both teams are fighting for playoff seeds in a tough Western Conference and Griffin has consistently led the Clippers to wins in spite of major injuries to some of his best teammates and kept LA among the top 4 seeds. Love has not.

The talent isn't on the same level though. Blake was 2-2 without Paul and Love was 5-4 (without pek all month). The records were slightly different (I am comparing the games they played, I conceded the last point) but the surrounding talent isn't really comparable.


4. Strength of schedule. Blake played 7 .500+ playoff teams in February, while Love played only 4. I would argue that Blake also had bigger performances when it mattered most against the best teams in the league. That game he had in the loss to Miami was insane (43/15/6), and he had monster games against Toronto, Portland, San Antonio and Houston. Love's games against Indy and Phoenix were pretty ridiculous, but he was underwhelming against Houston and Portland. I am not impressed by Love dominating Utah, Atlanta or Denver.

Blake was underwhelming vs OKC and Houston to end the month too though (so each had a couple underwhelming games vs. elite teams). The difference is when love was underwhelming we lost, Blake got enough help to get wins in the games I mentioned. I am fine with looking at the competition etc. but then you absolutely have to take the surrounding talent into consideration as well.


5. Who gives a ****? This is probably the point everyone should seriously consider. "Player of the month" isn't exactly something that impacts your resume when people talk about your career 20 years from now. No one is saying "Man, I can't believe Griffin beat out Love for Western Conference Player of the Month back in February 2014" or "Wow! Griffin won WCPOM one time in 2014?!?! Clearly that guy is a Hall of Famer!" It's a nice award to hang your hat on during the regular season, but it hardly matters over the course of a season, and it certainly doesn't matter over the course of a career. Both guys were deserving. One guy won it over the other despite the other guy posting better stats. Love can live with it, and so can you.

Pretty much agreed. I thought your post was worth countering though, it had some good points. In the end it wasn't a disgrace to choose Griffin but I personally would have chosen Love (as a true homer would :)). You aren't wrong for the reasoning you have but what I listed were just some counters to go along with the fact that love had the better stats.

Kushed
03-08-2014, 07:28 PM
Mngopher with the boooooom shakalaka

montafan
03-08-2014, 07:39 PM
Love's numbers are so good the league should just let the wolves into the playoffs. it would be a disgrace not to see those awesome numbers in the post season

Shlumpledink
03-08-2014, 08:02 PM
Does the media vote on this award? That would explain it

MonroeFAN
03-08-2014, 08:38 PM
EVERYTHING you post in this forum should be able to be backed up, especially if you're going to be so bold as to start a thread over it. Plus, you're looking only at the face value of basic stats with no context for those numbers whatsoever.

There is a guy here who has several thousand posts of pretty much complete nonsense.

Seriously, I've never seen someone who possesses such little logic and knowledge, talk as much crap as he does. It's comical.

Champion of his own mind, really wish more people would call him out more often, like Rlundi did recently.

slashsnake
03-08-2014, 11:07 PM
Honestly, I think both were fine candidates. Love's team is mired in mediocrity, Blakes is winning. Blake definitely has the better team out there around him, but there is a good argument Love had the better individual month.

I am fine with people saying that scoring 25 in a win is more impressive than scoring 30 in a loss. I think if your record has you in the 10th spot in your conference, you have to be amazingly better than anyone else, and Love didn't separate himself in that way.

I just looked for the last player of the month guy from a bad team. Deron won one for a bad Jazz team but won it in the opening month before he was traded and they were winning. Paul won one for a bad Hornets team in 09/10 but they were 26-21 after that month and went 12-4 in that month.

The Atlanta Hawks Joe Johnson in 07/08. They finished with 37 wins, which did get them into the playoffs. But the Month of March when he won the award, they won 8 of their last 10 in that month which got them into the playoffs.

Couple of .500 teams (east, both made the playoffs) in 06/07 were Gilbert Arenas, and Vince Carter, but both were on fire. Gilbert averaged 34 a game for that month Vince averaged 29-7-7 both shooting nearly 50%.

So I've dug back to when it was just one player of the month (before east and west got their own) and Karl Malone was winning the thing and can't find a player winning it who wasn't in the playoffs or putting his team into playoff position that month.

sunsfan88
03-09-2014, 12:21 AM
Ummmm what..........?????


JJ Redick, Barnes, Dudley, Collison?? All very good players bench players who can hit shots and make plays

compared to the likes of who?? ill tell you who

chase budinger, mbah moute, alexy shved, robbie hummel, shabazz mohammed, corey brewer...

lol and you're about to tell me "crawford, jordan, and scrubs" lol please

Redick's been out with injury for much of the season, Dudley's been trash lol so we can't count him and Barnes started off going off recently.

But yea Collison's good, forgot about him.