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kdspurman
02-19-2014, 04:39 PM
Wednesday February 19th, 2014





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Location: The Time Warner Cable Arena
Time: 7:00 PM ET



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Location: Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland
Time: 7:00 PM ET



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Location: Air Canada Centre in Toronto
Time: 7:00 PM ET



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Location: Philips Arena in Atlanta
Time: 7:30 PM ET



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Location: Target Center in Minnesota
Time: 8:00 PM ET
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Location: Smoothie King Center in New Orleans
Time: 8:00 PM ET



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Location: US Airways Center in Phoenix
Time: 9:00 PM ET



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Location: Energy Solutions Arena in Salt Lake City
Time: 9:00 PM ET



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Location: Sleep Train Arena in Sacramento
Time: 10:00 PM ET



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Location: Rose Quarter Arena in Portland
Time: 10:00 PM ET



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Location: Staples Center in Los Angeles
Time: 10:30 PM ET
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SPURSFAN1
02-19-2014, 08:02 PM
Any news on Kawhi?

black1605
02-19-2014, 08:31 PM
Bobcats off to another good start. Zeller playing the best ball he's played all year.

6 points
3 rebounds
2 blocks
4 minutes

kdspurman
02-19-2014, 09:01 PM
Any news on Kawhi?

Nothing yet. I'd imagine within the next hour or so once they'll announce who's in/out

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 09:15 PM
The Magic shot 14% in the first quarter.

Lakers + Giants
02-19-2014, 09:24 PM
Love with 12pts 7rbs with over 4 min left in the 1st. :drool:

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 09:28 PM
Kemba Walker with 9 points, 10 assists, and 5 rebounds and the third quarter just started.

Slug3
02-19-2014, 09:29 PM
This feels like a game that Minnt will again blow and Indy will again come back from.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 09:35 PM
Bobcats up by 20, I sure hope Detroit is tanking, they have looked bad in two important games back-to-back.

John Walls Era
02-19-2014, 09:51 PM
LOL hansbrough destroyed dunleavy.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 09:56 PM
Pistons trying to rally, they better come on with it fast.

zn23
02-19-2014, 10:20 PM
a fluke 3 by augustin.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 10:21 PM
Bobcats win again

zn23
02-19-2014, 10:29 PM
Wow, how many times is Derozan going to choke in the in the last minute of a game? It's been a recurring theme this season, when the Raps give Derozan the ball and let him iso he screws it up. Just run plays. Don't let Derozan iso all the time.

zn23
02-19-2014, 10:34 PM
Raptors get lucky after Amir Johnson bails them out and they get a 2nd chance to win the game...

zn23
02-19-2014, 10:35 PM
Derozan ****s up YET AGAIN. Stop running these ISO's with him, he's not good enough to win one-on-one.

Sick and tired of watching the Raps run ISO's with Derozan, he's not that type of player. He doesn't have good enough handles, explosiveness or tricks to win one-on-one.

His got to move is a pump fake, that's only going to work so many times...

WARRIORS@GR
02-19-2014, 10:39 PM
Derozan ****s up YET AGAIN. Stop running these ISO's with him, he's not good enough to win one-on-one.

Sick and tired of watching the Raps run ISO's with Derozan, he's not that type of player. He doesn't have good enough handles, explosiveness or tricks to win one-on-one.

His got to move is a pump fake, that's only going to work so many times...Has to be Casey's fault,not DeRozan's.Lowry not involved in the offense at all?smh

Toxeryll
02-19-2014, 10:43 PM
Has to be Casey's fault,not DeRozan's.Lowry not involved in the offense at all?smh

Agree. Lowry should be the one handling it.

zn23
02-19-2014, 10:44 PM
Has to be Casey's fault,not DeRozan's.Lowry not involved in the offense at all?smh

I would say it's like 70-30, Casey and Derozan. Derozan can't take over games like an all-star. Not skilled enough. You've got be able to beat Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler one-on-one at the very least. I mean their pretty solid defensively but their not that good. Taj Gibson picked him up from a screen, Derozan tried to dribble past him, lost control of the ball and then hoisted up an air-ball. Then against Butler he tries a pump fake, when it doesn't work he still tries to force up a shot and he gets blocked.

This isn't the first time he's failed on isolation plays to win the game. The same thing happened against Portland when he dribbled the ball off his foot.

WARRIORS@GR
02-19-2014, 10:51 PM
Love shoots too much 3's.It's obvious he wants to be a Warrior.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 10:52 PM
Hopefully Minnesota doesn't blow it but you get that feeling.

ThaDubs
02-19-2014, 11:14 PM
Raptors are just coached so damn horribly. They didn't utilize Rudy properly and they aren't utilizing DeRozan properly

NYMetros
02-19-2014, 11:14 PM
Cousins isn't playing? could these teams make it a little less obvious they're tanking?

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:16 PM
Love is stuck on 37 points.

Kushed
02-19-2014, 11:18 PM
Love is stuck on 37 points.

what?

Kushed
02-19-2014, 11:19 PM
by the way love is a top 5 player in the league hands down get off his jock kids

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:22 PM
what?

He scored shortly after I posted that.:laugh:

Kushed
02-19-2014, 11:23 PM
He scored shortly after I posted that.:laugh:

I know :)

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:27 PM
Impressive win by Minnesota

Kushed
02-19-2014, 11:31 PM
Impressive win by Minnesota

Its tough to be a Minnesota fan. Especially when you know this team is good enough to make the playoffs. Maybe they can make a miracle push but like usual they seem to have a really good game (like tonight) and then they'll drop eggs the rest of the way.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:33 PM
Did the Pacers ever lead?

Hawkeye15
02-19-2014, 11:39 PM
Did the Pacers ever lead?

no

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:40 PM
Time for the WHOOPING!!!!

Watch we lose. :cool:

WARRIORS@GR
02-19-2014, 11:41 PM
Nedovic looks lonely at the bench.

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:42 PM
whoa. crazy shot

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:42 PM
no

Even more impressive and Minny was missing two starters.

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:44 PM
Lakers fans mad :)

Dwight going h.a.m.

Lakers + Giants
02-19-2014, 11:44 PM
Dwight starting out strong :laugh2:

Lakers + Giants
02-19-2014, 11:45 PM
Lakers fans mad :)

Dwight going h.a.m.

who's mad? fans are just booing him, far from mad tho.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:45 PM
Dwight is stylin on them early.

Chacarron
02-19-2014, 11:45 PM
Lakers fans mad :)

Dwight going h.a.m.

Dwight is helping them tank. They should be cheering this man.

Lakers + Giants
02-19-2014, 11:46 PM
We can't even hack a dwight cuz we only have 8 players hahaha

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:46 PM
who's mad? fans are just booing him, far from mad tho.

i'm talking about the fans there ;)

Naw I know. It's funny though. They're acting like he was Lebron to them but I get it. He left them high and dry.

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:47 PM
Dwight is helping them tank. They should be cheering this man.

Good point. It's disgusting how many injuries lakers have had.

Lakers + Giants
02-19-2014, 11:48 PM
i'm talking about the fans there ;)

Naw I know. It's funny though. They're acting like he was Lebron to them but I get it. He left them high and dry.

Yup, I was disappointed when he left too but now I'm meh. Still would prefer he never wins a ring but if he does, oh well.

Chacarron
02-19-2014, 11:48 PM
Good point. It's disgusting how many injuries lakers have had.

I'd call it fortuitous.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:49 PM
We can't even hack a dwight cuz we only have 8 players hahaha

We may see anther fouled out player staying in the game situation.:speechless:

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:49 PM
Yup, I was disappointed when he left too but now I'm meh. Still would prefer he never wins a ring but if he does, oh well.

I feel ya. I don't blame you though. It's only natural to feel like that.

Htownballa1622
02-19-2014, 11:51 PM
Parsons <3

Don't leave us.

True Sports Fan
02-19-2014, 11:51 PM
Jimmer you ****ing moron

WARRIORS@GR
02-19-2014, 11:52 PM
Jordan Crawford attacking like crazy tonight.Good thing he will have to earn his minutes after tonight's trade.

shep33
02-19-2014, 11:53 PM
Chris Kaman knows he's getting traded tomorrow lol

And Harden just flopped there

WARRIORS@GR
02-19-2014, 11:54 PM
I can't recall the last time Steph got such a long rest between quarters.

NBA_Starter
02-19-2014, 11:55 PM
That was a nice move by Parsons.

True Sports Fan
02-19-2014, 11:56 PM
Is defense ****ing illegal in Sacramento

KniCks4LiFe
02-19-2014, 11:56 PM
LOLS Casperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

C-Will -2
SDot +11

WARRIORS@GR
02-19-2014, 11:59 PM
C-Will:laugh:

Htownballa1622
02-20-2014, 12:04 AM
I swear if Parsons get traded i'll be so mad unless we somehow managed to get Love. :crying:

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:04 AM
Warriors have had so many Fastbreaks I can't even count.

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:06 AM
Dwight Howard has missed more free throws individually (234) than the Portland TrailBlazers have as a team (222, leads NBA in FT%)

:laugh:

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 12:06 AM
he's hurt again.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 12:08 AM
these Jazz fans really hate C-Will


@RealFansStand 15s
Deron Williams blatantly attacked Burks' elbow with his face, he deserves those boos!!!!



‏@mchollaar 52s
@DeronWilliams Hope you like that elbow. Welcome back to Utah you little puss

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:24 AM
Stay classy Utah fans

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 12:29 AM
@livingg_dreams 47s
That is NOT Deron Williams son lmaooooo foh your wife cheated on you dawg

it's true tho :laugh2:

Crackadalic
02-20-2014, 12:30 AM
What happen to the hawks. Thought they was playing good even with horford out. They can actually miss the playoffs

Hawkeye15
02-20-2014, 12:32 AM
Dwight Howard has missed more free throws individually (234) than the Portland TrailBlazers have as a team (222, leads NBA in FT%)

:laugh:

yet LMA is a supposed MVP candidate...

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 12:32 AM
@Niggademus_ 3m
How Deron Williams' son darker than him and hes lightskinned and his wife is white i dont get it thats suspect man

yo I've been wondering that too. Y'all seen his kid?

SPURSFAN1
02-20-2014, 12:32 AM
manu working on the blazers

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 12:33 AM
Man kaman so disinterested in this match

Htownballa1622
02-20-2014, 12:37 AM
yo I've been wondering that too. Y'all seen his kid?

I think he's adopted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/deron-supports-son-autism-charity-article-1.1226075

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 12:39 AM
Dwight's playing some angry, pissed off basketball tonight. I freaking love it. He's completely dominating in the low post, defensively in the paint and on the boards. I want them to keep this up, though, so that they can rest most of the starters for most of the fourth quarter. Golden State tomorrow will be a much tougher test.

P&GRealist
02-20-2014, 12:39 AM
Man kaman so disinterested in this match
He'll be gone tomorrow morning

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 12:39 AM
I think he's adopted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/deron-supports-son-autism-charity-article-1.1226075

thanks for that. I didn't know. Props to his wife.

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:42 AM
Refs just love to **** over the Kings.

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:43 AM
What happen to the hawks. Thought they was playing good even with horford out. They can actually miss the playoffs

They don't miss the playoffs with Horford .

kdspurman
02-20-2014, 12:43 AM
Patty mills doin' work again

kdspurman
02-20-2014, 12:45 AM
What happen to the hawks. Thought they was playing good even with horford out. They can actually miss the playoffs

Injury bug hit them too apparently. Several guys out in addition to Al

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 12:45 AM
Looks like Mchale has completely abandoned casspi.

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:45 AM
"What the **** are you doing Isaiah Tho.... Carry on"

Htownballa1622
02-20-2014, 12:50 AM
Dwight's playing some angry, pissed off basketball tonight. I freaking love it. He's completely dominating in the low post, defensively in the paint and on the boards. I want them to keep this up, though, so that they can rest most of the starters for most of the fourth quarter. Golden State tomorrow will be a much tougher test.

That's what i'm hoping. We need to get rest for our starters in the 4th and leave L.A. injury free. :)


thanks for that. I didn't know. Props to his wife.

No prob.

FOBolous
02-20-2014, 12:54 AM
Dwight Howad's making Kaman and the rest of the Lakers his female dogs today.

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 12:55 AM
Everytime I trash talk Kings, Thomas brings us back. Need to use that more often

JLynn943
02-20-2014, 12:58 AM
Everytime I trash talk Kings, Thomas brings us back. Need to use that more often

I don't think the average NBA fan knows how good he is. No way can we afford to trade him.

True Sports Fan
02-20-2014, 01:00 AM
I don't think the average NBA fan knows how good he is. No way can we afford to trade him.

Definitely. Really hope we resign him

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:01 AM
Looks like Mchale has completely abandoned casspi.

Well, Asik and Motiejunas have played well tonight. Casspi is usually McHale's small ball big answer when the bench bigs can't cut it. Casspi has played craptastic at times this season, but he'll still get his minutes when necessary. I'd REALLY love to see Houston add a perimeter guy who can defend and hit 3-pointers betore the deadline though, because Garcia and Casspi do not appear to be capable of that.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:09 AM
just heard on the post game AK47 recounting an interesting story, he just recalled tonight on the eve of the trade deadline.

he said prior to gametime after hearing he was traded [C-Will getting traded from UTH to the Nets] he told his teammates in the locker room

"hey guys ok see you later I'm not going out there" and left. AK47 just recounted this story on YES

yo this fool is a jerk and then some. :laugh:

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 01:11 AM
One thing rocket players haven't learnt offensively is their positioning when Howard is double teamed. Often their positions force Howard to pass through the defender rather than around.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:15 AM
One thing rocket players haven't learnt offensively is their positioning when Howard is double teamed. Often their positions force Howard to pass through the defender rather than around.

you're using tonight's game to make that assumption? the Lakers are tanking, they got more coaches at tonight's game than players.

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 01:20 AM
you're using tonight's game to make that assumption? the Lakers are tanking, they got more coaches at tonight's game than players.

Wow that has nothing to do with my post at all. You must really dislike me.

kdspurman
02-20-2014, 01:23 AM
big time b2b shorthanded wins. Definitely needed to keep as much space in the standings as possible.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:26 AM
What a phenomenal game from Harden tonight. 29 points, 11 assists, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, 1 block and only 1 turnover through three quarters. Granted it was against a destroyed Lakers team that's playing no semblance of defense, but this is easily one of the best games all season long, and it was awesome to see him have a game where he got hot from beyond the arc.

Hopefully that carries over the rest of the season. Houston could really use Harden playing at his peak level if they want to contend.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:26 AM
Wow that has nothing to do with my post at all. You must really dislike me.

you're talking about how they haven't learned to pass it out of the post, that I agree. But you're using a game in which everyone is disinterested in playing to make that assumption. I don't dislike you. You need a hug?

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 01:26 AM
Why is McHale playing his guys 30+ minutes on the first night of a b2b being up 20+ points all game long?

Htownballa1622
02-20-2014, 01:28 AM
Why is McHale playing his guys 30+ minutes on the first night of a b2b being up 20+ points all game long?

Cuz we're not worried about tomorrow :cool:

jk lol.

He tends to leave them in longer than expected. But I think it's because we blow leads like crazy.
I don't expect starters to see the floor in the 4th.

Jeremy Lin time!

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:29 AM
I'm glad to see the Spurs win for two reasons. First, it gives Houston a little breathing room for the third seed from Portland. Secondly, I want the Rockets and Spurs to end up with the 2nd and 3rd seed, regardless of who gets what. That's the ideal second round matchup for Houston, and I think that's their most likely path to the WCF. I also would just love to see the Rockets and Spurs face off in the second round for personal reasons.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:29 AM
Why is McHale playing his guys 30+ minutes on the first night of a b2b being up 20+ points all game long?

cuz he's an idiot. That was a pretty dumb move.

Man Jordan Hill looks like he's crying inside.

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 01:33 AM
you're talking about how they haven't learned to pass it out of the post, that I agree. But you're using a game in which everyone is disinterested in playing to make that assumption. I don't dislike you. You need a hug?

It's not assumption, I think you need to look that word up. Also where did I say this is off one game? And my post has nothing to do with the lakers. Read my post again.

SPURSFAN1
02-20-2014, 01:35 AM
no tim tony or kawhi and we win lol

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:35 AM
Why is McHale playing his guys 30+ minutes on the first night of a b2b being up 20+ points all game long?
Oh, c'mon. No Rockets starter played more than 32 minutes and no starter stepped on the floor in the fourth quarter. Plus, McHale was clearly experimenting late in the third quarter with Asik and Dwight on the floor at the same time.

I don't mind the starters playing 25-30 minutes in blowouts, because it gives coaches a good opportunity to experiment with some things, and it's a good confidence builder for those players. Also, the Rockets are clearly having a good time out there tonight. Let them enjoy themselves and then pull them in the fourth to rest.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 01:36 AM
I'm glad to see the Spurs win for two reasons. First, it gives Houston a little breathing room for the third seed from Portland. Secondly, I want the Rockets and Spurs to end up with the 2nd and 3rd seed, regardless of who gets what. That's the ideal second round matchup for Houston, and I think that's their most likely path to the WCF. I also would just love to see the Rockets and Spurs face off in the second round for personal reasons.You're not beating the Spurs.Clippers or Warriors are the best matchups for you,if you get to the 2nd round.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:38 AM
cuz he's an idiot. That was a pretty dumb move.
Was it? Nobody got hurt, Houston's blowing them out, it gave them a chance to experiment with different lineups and Harden had one of his best 3-point shooting stretches of the entire season. I'd say it worked out just fine.

no tim tony or kawhi and we win lol
It was a big, solid win. But let's not forget that the Blazers were without Aldridge, as well.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:38 AM
It's not assumption, I think you need to look that word up. Also where did I say this is off one game? And my post has nothing to do with the lakers. Read my post again.

your post is about them not being able to make plays out of the post b/c the of the position of the Roxs players. No one is interested in doing that tonight. James Harden isn't cutting away from the 3 pt line tonight, Parsons isn't either. This is a game where that has absolutely no focus for tonight.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-20-2014, 01:39 AM
With the pacers loss, heat are 1 game back. Closest it's ever been since Jan 1.

Thanks Minnesota :)

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:39 AM
Was it? Nobody got hurt, Houston's blowing them out, it gave them a chance to experiment with different lineups and Harden had one of his best 3-point shooting stretches of the entire season. I'd say it worked out just fine.


but they could have got hurt.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-20-2014, 01:40 AM
Am I the only one glad that Howard dominated la? Lol
Makes for good drama lol

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-20-2014, 01:42 AM
:dance:

Lebron vs Durant part Dos.

Should be tied by tomorrow for 1st seed in the ECF

SPURSFAN1
02-20-2014, 01:42 AM
Was it? Nobody got hurt, Houston's blowing them out, it gave them a chance to experiment with different lineups and Harden had one of his best 3-point shooting stretches of the entire season. I'd say it worked out just fine.

It was a big, solid win. But let's not forget that the Blazers were without Aldridge, as well.

Yeah but missing 3 starters playing away from home is the worse by far. The rockets aren't beating the spurs trust me.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:42 AM
You're not beating the Spurs.Clippers or Warriors are the best matchups for you,if you get to the 2nd round.
Well, you're right about one thing. I'M not being anybody, because I don't play for an NBA team. Neither do you. Let's not associate ourselves with our favorite teams as if we play for them, because we don't. WE do not win anything. THEY do.

You're totally wrong about the matchups, though. The Rockets are 3-0 against the Spurs this season and matchup extremely well with them, while they got blown out both times they played the Clippers. Granted, it was earlier in the season, but I just do not like that matchup for them. The Warriors would be a great second round matchup for Houston, as well, but Golden State is a long way from the second round of the playoffs right now, so it's a moot point.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:44 AM
but they could have got hurt.
The way the Lakers play defense? Not likely. But it's a non-issue, so quit bringing it up. The Rockets starters played an adequate amount of minutes, they got plenty of rest for tomorrow and they easily blew out a depleted Lakers team. End of discussion.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:45 AM
Jeremy Lin refuses to be a stat sheet stuffer. He must be the only player in the NBA that refuses to do that.

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 01:45 AM
your post is about them not being able to make plays out of the post b/c the of the position of the Roxs players. No one is interested in doing that tonight. James Harden isn't cutting away from the 3 pt line tonight, Parsons isn't either. This is a game where that has absolutely no focus for tonight.

It's an observation on the season and a lingering problem for the rockets. And my post conveys that. Your reaching.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:46 AM
Yeah but missing 3 starters playing away from home is the worse by far. The rockets aren't beating the spurs trust me.

Let's not be arrogant or presumptuous. But if anyone has the right to be arrogant in that series, it's Houston, who has totally dominated San Antonio this season. Regardless, neither of us knows a damn thing. The playoffs are months away, and there's no telling how the two teams will be playing by the time that hypothetical playoff matchup rolls around.

Trust me, you don't have a ****ing clue who would win that series.

Htownballa1622
02-20-2014, 01:46 AM
Lol at Parsons and Bev joining in. "Howard sucks."

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:47 AM
It's an observation on the season and a lingering problem for the rockets. And my post conveys that. Your reaching.

your offense is based on 3pt shooting and penetration possessions. You don't really post much or pass and cut out of the post. This isn't a lingering problem, this is what you are. No I'm not reaching.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:49 AM
Jeremy Lin refuses to be a stat sheet stuffer. He must be the only player in the NBA that refuses to do that.

I wouldn't necessarily say that's true. This is the second or third game in a row it seems like he's trying to stuff the TO box on the box score. Also, it's not like he's got 6 points on a couple of shot attempts. The dude has taken 9 shots tonight. Don't get me wrong. I really like Lin, and I want the guy to succeed, but let's not play the "unselfish" card. That's just a nice way to say he's not scoring the ball particularly well lately, which is far closer to the truth.

SPURSFAN1
02-20-2014, 01:53 AM
Let's not be arrogant or presumptuous. But if anyone has the right to be arrogant in that series, it's Houston, who has totally dominated San Antonio this season. Regardless, neither of us knows a damn thing. The playoffs are months away, and there's no telling how the two teams will be playing by the time that hypothetical playoff matchup rolls around.

Trust me, you don't have a ****ing clue who would win that series.

No ones nostradamus here. I have supreme confidence in Pop and the spurs in the postseason. I'm indifferent in the regular season.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 01:53 AM
Well, you're right about one thing. I'M not being anybody, because I don't play for an NBA team. Neither do you. Let's not associate ourselves with our favorite teams as if we play for them, because we don't. WE do not win anything. THEY do.

You're totally wrong about the matchups, though. The Rockets are 3-0 against the Spurs this season and matchup extremely well with them, while they got blown out both times they played the Clippers. Granted, it was earlier in the season, but I just do not like that matchup for them. The Warriors would be a great second round matchup for Houston, as well, but Golden State is a long way from the second round of the playoffs right now, so it's a moot point.1.Are you saying the fanbase is not a part of the team?you're way off on that.i don't know,here in Europe "WE" is always used about your favorite team,look at it as a commitment to the club.

2.Oh you really want to use regular season records vs the Spurs?like they give a **** about 3 regular season games.Good luck with McHale vs Pop and Howard vs Duncan.I think Popovich alone would bury the inexperienced Rockets in a series.We'll see though.
As for the Warriors,how are they long way from the 2nd round?because of some underpermorming in the regular season?I'm not so sure the Rockets are a better bet to go further in the playoffs than the Warriors.But we'll see about that too.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 01:53 AM
your offense is based on 3pt shooting and penetration possessions. You don't really post much or pass and cut out of the post. This isn't a lingering problem, this is what you are. No I'm not reaching.

I like to think I watch more Rockets games than you do, and this simply isn't true, especially over the last 15-20 games where the Rockets have become more reliant on Howard. There are stretches where Houston will go to Howard for several possessions in a row, and the offense has to be able to move the ball starting with Howard out of the post. There have been a lot of times where Dwight gets doubled and nobody rushes to get open and help him out. They do need to improve in that area.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 01:54 AM
I wouldn't necessarily say that's true. This is the second or third game in a row it seems like he's trying to stuff the TO box on the box score. Also, it's not like he's got 6 points on a couple of shot attempts. The dude has taken 9 shots tonight. Don't get me wrong. I really like Lin, and I want the guy to succeed, but let's not play the "unselfish" card. That's just a nice way to say he's not scoring the ball particularly well lately, which is far closer to the truth.

He's clearly disinterested tonight. And he's clearly had shot that were 1/2 way in and out tonight but as for the PG play from him tonight, he looks like he's moving the ball and floating through. It's the PT he's not getting.

Asik's better
02-20-2014, 01:56 AM
your offense is based on 3pt shooting and penetration possessions. You don't really post much or pass and cut out of the post. This isn't a lingering problem, this is what you are. No I'm not reaching.

It is and it does relate to three point shooting because their positioning is wrong when Dwight is doubled and their open for three.

nyyfan4life
02-20-2014, 01:57 AM
He's clearly disinterested tonight. And he's clearly had shot that were 1/2 way in and out tonight but as for the PG play from him tonight, he looks like he's moving the ball and floating through. It's the PT he's not getting.

He's averaging 31 mins per game which is more than enough for a role player.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:00 AM
1.Are you saying the fanbase is not a part of the team?you're way off on that.i don't know,here in Europe "WE" is always used about your favorite team,look at it as a commitment to the club.
No, sir. You do not play. You can cheer and support your team and be a part of it that way. But let's not take more credit for what we do as fans than we deserve. Drinking beer and yelling at a television screen does not make us part of the team. It makes us fans, and there's nothing wrong with that. But we do not contribute a single win at the end of the day. Period.


2.Oh you really want to use regular season records vs the Spurs?like they give a **** about 3 regular season games.Good luck with McHale vs Pop and Howard vs Duncan.I think Popovich alone would bury the inexperienced Rockets in a series.We'll see though.
We will see, just like we'll have to see if the Warriors make the playoffs in the first place. ;)


As for the Warriors,how are they long way from the 2nd round?because of some underpermorming in the regular season?I'm not so sure the Rockets are a better bet to go further in the playoffs than the Warriors.But we'll see about that too.
Because the Warriors are currently four games back of the 4th seed and getting HCA in the first round, meaning they're likely going to go into the first round as underdogs. Underdogs are called underdogs for a reason, and lower seeded teams are less likely to make the second round than higher seeded teams. It's not an insult. It's simple common sense. But it's also worth mentioning that there's only a 1 1/2 game difference between the Warriors at 7 and the Grizzlies at 9. Right now, it's more likely that the Warriors don't make the playoffs than it is that they make the second round. Again, that's not an insult. That's simple statistical common sense.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 02:02 AM
He's averaging 31 mins per game which is more than enough for a role player.

it's not consistent. They take him out for long stretches then put him out there w/ the 2nd unit when the game is out of hand. Pretty much most of the media and the Roxs fans that aren't on PSD know this.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:05 AM
He's clearly disinterested tonight. And he's clearly had shot that were 1/2 way in and out tonight but as for the PG play from him tonight, he looks like he's moving the ball and floating through. It's the PT he's not getting.

Playing time for Lin is a really lame excuse. He's averaging only 11/4 in 30 minutes a night over the last 5 games. The last two months, he's essentially averaged 12/5 in 32 minutes a night. There's nothing wrong with that stat line, but the guy has really fallen off after that torrid start. He is what he is at this point, which is a pretty darn good 6th man who could feasibly be a starting point guard for maybe 5-10 teams in the league. He still has potential to be better than that, but it's got to start with his 3-point shot, which has been wildly inconsistent the last two years in Houston.

shep33
02-20-2014, 02:06 AM
Excited to see Westbrook come back. I think they're 21-4 with him, pretty insane

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:07 AM
it's not consistent. They take him out for long stretches then put him out there w/ the 2nd unit when the game is out of hand. Pretty much most of the media and the Roxs fans that aren't on PSD know this.

That's not fair at all. I've seen Lin get PLENTY of minutes in close games this season. Hell, he got 37 minutes last week against Washington in a close game despite a ton of unforced turnovers late in the fourth quarter. Also, you're just not making any sense. You're acting as if Lin is only getting trash minutes at the end of blowouts, but you cannot feasibly get 32 trash minutes a game EVERY night. If you think that, I don't know what to tell you.

nyyfan4life
02-20-2014, 02:08 AM
it's not consistent. They take him out for long stretches then put him out there w/ the 2nd unit when the game is out of hand. Pretty much most of the media and the Roxs fans that aren't on PSD know this.

That's the point of being a bench player. You play when the coach calls your number. Lin, himself, is very inconsistent which might be the reason his minutes may vary (31 mins / game is still 31 mins a game though). Lin isn't just inconsistent from game to game but he's inconsistent possession to possession. He can make great plays and then come back and make insanely, awful turnovers/decisions the next play.

Although, I don't understand what's so bad about playing with the 2nd unit when the game is out of hand. He is part of the 2nd unit, and the 2nd unit usually finishes the game when it is a blowout.

KniCks4LiFe
02-20-2014, 02:09 AM
Playing time for Lin is a really lame excuse. He's averaging only 11/4 in 30 minutes a night over the last 5 games. The last two months, he's essentially averaged 12/5 in 32 minutes a night. There's nothing wrong with that stat line, but the guy has really fallen off after that torrid start. He is what he is at this point, which is a pretty darn good 6th man who could feasibly be a starting point guard for maybe 5-10 teams in the league. He still has potential to be better than that, but it's got to start with his 3-point shot, which has been wildly inconsistent the last two years in Houston.

how is PT a lame excuse? he clearly is affected by this, he goes on torrid starts and then his coach freezes him out. Tell me that hasn't happened @mighty

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:09 AM
No ones nostradamus here. I have supreme confidence in Pop and the spurs in the postseason. I'm indifferent in the regular season.

People have supreme confidence in religion. That doesn't prevent natural disasters or tragedies. Faith doesn't get you very far.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 02:11 AM
No, sir. You do not play. You can cheer and support your team and be a part of it that way. But let's not take more credit for what we do as fans than we deserve. Drinking beer and yelling at a television screen does not make us part of the team. It makes us fans, and there's nothing wrong with that. But we do not contribute a single win at the end of the day. Period.


We will see, just like we'll have to see if the Warriors make the playoffs in the first place. ;)


Because the Warriors are currently four games back of the 4th seed and getting HCA in the first round, meaning they're likely going to go into the first round as underdogs. Underdogs are called underdogs for a reason, and lower seeded teams are less likely to make the second round than higher seeded teams. It's not an insult. It's simple common sense. But it's also worth mentioning that there's only a 1 1/2 game difference between the Warriors at 7 and the Grizzlies at 9. Right now, it's more likely that the Warriors don't make the playoffs than it is that they make the second round. Again, that's not an insult. That's simple statistical common sense.
Of course we contribute.I don't know how the fanbase 'thing' is working in the US,but over here everybody looks at the fanbase as part of each team.You will never hear someone talk about his team as "THEY".That's how we call the other teams,i will not refer to my team as 'they' lol.Maybe it's a difference of culture between fans here and there,probably.

Also,weren't the Warriors the underdogs last year too vs the great home court advantage of the Nuggets?how did that work out?
You know very well that this is not the East,where two teams are the lock for the ECF.
I won't discuss about the Warriors missing the playoffs,i can accept every bet on the world that WE(:rock:) will be there.And you know we are dangerous,HCA or not.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:14 AM
how is PT a lame excuse? he clearly is affected by this, he goes on torrid starts and then his coach freezes him out. Tell me that hasn't happened @mighty

Yes, it is a lame excuse. He's an NBA player who makes millions of dollars to put a basketball in a hoop, and you're telling me that he can't perform consistently because he's asked to sit down for a few minutes on occasion after he makes a few baskets. That's what they're paid to do! If Lebron takes a seat after hitting a few shots in a row, do you think the media would give him a break for coming back in 15 minutes later and playing like crap? Hell no!

And lately, I've seen very few "torrid starts" from Lin. The guy played well against Washington before that awful fourth quarter and he had a nice game against a horrible Milwaukee team. Between that has been a whole lot of mediocrity. And obviously he had two really solid games against Dallas and San Antonio, but that was without Harden in the lineup, so that's kind of expected.

Don't make excuses for the guy. Playing time is not the reason he's missing open jumpers and turning the ball over so often. He's doing it because he's just not playing that well right now. When he picks his game up and plays better, he'll deserve more minutes.

Im_in_Mia_bish
02-20-2014, 02:15 AM
Excited to see Westbrook come back. I think they're 21-4 with him, pretty insane

About to be 21-5 ;)

shep33
02-20-2014, 02:18 AM
About to be 21-5 ;)

Haha, should be an awesome game. Can't wait. Bron has stepped his game up lately.

SPURSFAN1
02-20-2014, 02:20 AM
People have supreme confidence in religion. That doesn't prevent natural disasters or tragedies. Faith doesn't get you very far.

Good thing i'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about the coach and team that went to the finals.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:20 AM
Of course we contribute.I don't know how the fanbase 'thing' is working in the US,but over here everybody looks at the fanbase as part of each team.You will never hear someone talk about his team as "THEY".That's how we call the other teams,i will not refer to my team as 'they' lol.Maybe it's a difference of culture between fans here and there,probably.
No, fans here in America refer to their teams as "we," but that doesn't make it right. When you take Sports Journalism 101, the very first thing they tell you is to stop using "we" in reference to your favorite teams and the teams you cover, but it's incorrect and it's stupid. I haven't done it every since except by accident.


Also,weren't the Warriors the underdogs last year too vs the great home court advantage of the Nuggets?how did that work out?
I never said there weren't exceptions to the rule. That's common sense. But history has taught us in ALL professional sports that the higher seeded team is more likely to win a playoff series than a lower seeded team. You can argue whether a team should be favored or not, but the higher seeded team will normally be viewed as the favorite entering a series and wins more often than they lose. It's pretty basic stuff, dude.


You know very well that this is not the East,where two teams are the lock for the ECF.
I won't discuss about the Warriors missing the playoffs,i can accept every bet on the world that WE(:rock:) will be there.And you know we are dangerous,HCA or not.
You are not dangerous. The Warriors basketball team is dangerous. But I still don't consider them contenders in the slightest at this point. They're too banged up, they're too inconsistent, and at this point, they'd have to win too many series without HCA to be taken seriously as a contender. If they get healthy, make a run and look better by the end of the season, that could change. That's not the case right now.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:23 AM
Good thing i'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about the coach and team that went to the finals.

Yeah, and how did that end up? Bottom line, the Western Conference right now is a total crapshoot. I could see 4-5 different teams coming out the West right now, and it wouldn't shock me if the Rockets were that team. So let's not assume anything just because of past experiences from different, younger Spurs teams. Assuming makes an *** out of Uma Thurman.

SPURSFAN1
02-20-2014, 02:26 AM
Yeah, and how did that end up? Bottom line, the Western Conference right now is a total crapshoot. I could see 4-5 different teams coming out the West right now, and it wouldn't shock me if the Rockets were that team. So let's not assume anything just because of past experiences from different, younger Spurs teams. Assuming makes an *** out of Uma Thurman.

4-1 spurs vs rockets. make me a sig on ur account. i want a reminder come playoffs.

FOBolous
02-20-2014, 02:26 AM
are Warriors fans still talking trash? why? the rockets didn't even play the warriors tonight. never have i seen fans of a borderline playoff team this cocky before.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:31 AM
4-1 spurs vs rockets. make me a sig on ur account. i want a reminder come playoffs.
No thanks. I chose to only sig quote people who say ridiculously unintelligent things or who say things that I can make fun of at any given time. You predicting a 4-1 Spurs victory in a second round matchup that doesn't exist is just pointless. Sure that could happen. Houston could also win 4-1. But I'm not going to sit here and predict a series that doesn't exist.

If you want to bring this up when there's more of a likelihood of it taking place, I'm all for it. But let's not talk trash over something that's still a long, long way from happening.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 02:33 AM
No, fans here in America refer to their teams as "we," but that doesn't make it right. When you take Sports Journalism 101, the very first thing they tell you is to stop using "we" in reference to your favorite teams and the teams you cover, but it's incorrect and it's stupid. I haven't done it every since except by accident.


I never said there weren't exceptions to the rule. That's common sense. But history has taught us in ALL professional sports that the higher seeded team is more likely to win a playoff series than a lower seeded team. You can argue whether a team should be favored or not, but the higher seeded team will normally be viewed as the favorite entering a series and wins more often than they lose. It's pretty basic stuff, dude.


You are not dangerous. The Warriors basketball team is dangerous. But I still don't consider them contenders in the slightest at this point. They're too banged up, they're too inconsistent, and at this point, they'd have to win too many series without HCA to be taken seriously as a contender. If they get healthy, make a run and look better by the end of the season, that could change. That's not the case right now.What does journalism has to do with the team you love and support.As i told you,there is probably a difference between US and Euro fans.I didn't tell you that it's right calling your team as "we".I told you that's how fans over here feel.And clubs feel the same about fans,they consider them as a big part of the team.That's why you NEVER EVER will see a bandwagon fan switching teams over here.This is considered a shame here,while in the US it's so normal.Also you will never see someone rooting for 2 or 3 teams in the same league,which also happens there.

As far as the Warriors,let's wait and see.I never said we're winning **** if we keep that pace,of course i hope and expect improvements.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 02:36 AM
are Warriors fans still talking trash? why? the rockets didn't even play the warriors tonight. never have i seen fans of a borderline playoff team this cocky before.Who talks trash?We're having a discussion with MTB,and you're the one getting cocky now.Ask him if i was talking trash,and then stfu.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 02:38 AM
Yeah, and how did that end up? Bottom line, the Western Conference right now is a total crapshoot. I could see 4-5 different teams coming out the West right now, and it wouldn't shock me if the Rockets were that team. So let's not assume anything just because of past experiences from different, younger Spurs teams. Assuming makes an *** out of Uma Thurman.You could see 4-5 teams coming out of the West but the Warriors not one of them?Do you feel the Blazers are more dangerous than the Warriors in the playoffs?

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:40 AM
What does journalism has to do with the team you love and support.As i told you,there is probably a difference between US and Euro fans.I didn't tell you that it's right calling your team as "we".I told you that's how fans over here feel.And clubs feel the same about fans,they consider them as a big part of the team.That's why you NEVER EVER will see a bandwagon fan switching teams over here.This is considered a shame here,while in the US it's so normal.Also you will never see someone rooting for 2 or 3 teams in the same league,which also happens there.
You can love a team without acting as if you contribute to their success. I've been a diehard Rockets fan for nearly 20 years. My teams losing games have caused me to drink more than probably every breakup I ever had between the ages of 19 and 25. And I don't jump teams, although I do occasionally have a secondary team I'll root for on the side in some leagues.

Bottom line, using correct grammar and recognizing that you are a fan of something you have no control over does not make you a ****** fan. It makes you a realist.


As far as the Warriors,let's wait and see.I never said we're winning **** if we keep that pace,of course i hope and expect improvements.
Indeed, let's. Before the season, I would have expected the Warriors to finish with the 4th or 5th seed, and I still think they're capable of having that caliber of a basketball team. Injuries haven't helped them, but there are also a lot of holes in their game that they've got to fix. We could very well be talking about them as a dark horse contender 2-3 months from now. We could also be talking about them as a lock for a first round exit. It could go either way.

Rndy
02-20-2014, 02:45 AM
I would say it's like 70-30, Casey and Derozan. Derozan can't take over games like an all-star. Not skilled enough. You've got be able to beat Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler one-on-one at the very least. I mean their pretty solid defensively but their not that good. Taj Gibson picked him up from a screen, Derozan tried to dribble past him, lost control of the ball and then hoisted up an air-ball. Then against Butler he tries a pump fake, when it doesn't work he still tries to force up a shot and he gets blocked.

This isn't the first time he's failed on isolation plays to win the game. The same thing happened against Portland when he dribbled the ball off his foot.

Jeeze man you either don't watch any Bulls games or have no idea what good defense is. Jimmy Butler is one of the best defensive wings in the game right now.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:45 AM
You could see 4-5 teams coming out of the West but the Warriors not one of them?Do you feel the Blazers are more dangerous than the Warriors in the playoffs?

Right now, there are four teams who I consider legit contenders to win the West: OKC, San Antonio, Houston and the Clippers. However, if they hit their stride at the right time and the right pieces fell into place, I could feasibly see the Blazers or Warriors making the WCF or maybe even the Finals. I still see both teams as a long shot right now, though, which is why I might only say 4-5.

But it's probably a moot point, because as good as OKC is playing, I'd give the Thunder better than a 50 percent chance to come out of the West. Right now, I kind of feel like it's the Thunder and then 4-5 other teams fighting for a chance to lose to the Thunder.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 02:50 AM
You can love a team without acting as if you contribute to their success. I've been a diehard Rockets fan for nearly 20 years. My teams losing games have caused me to drink more than probably every breakup I ever had between the ages of 19 and 25. And I don't jump teams, although I do occasionally have a secondary team I'll root for on the side in some leagues.

Bottom line, using correct grammar and recognizing that you are a fan of something you have no control over does not make you a ****** fan. It makes you a realist.


Indeed, let's. Before the season, I would have expected the Warriors to finish with the 4th or 5th seed, and I still think they're capable of having that caliber of a basketball team. Injuries haven't helped them, but there are also a lot of holes in their game that they've got to fix. We could very well be talking about them as a dark horse contender 2-3 months from now. We could also be talking about them as a lock for a first round exit. It could go either way.What i don't get is why do you say the fanbase does not contribute to the team.Season tickets,tv deals,support in general,all of those contribute.Maybe not as much,but still they do.That discussion will never end though,i told you,it's more of a culture thing i feel.

As far as contenders,i'd put the Warriors at the same category as the Clippers and the Rockets.OKC and Spurs are the first tier.Then i would go Clippers-Rockets-Warriors,with how the teams have performed so far.That could change by the end of the season though,it could go Clippers-Warriors-Rockets or Rockets-Clippers-Warriors,depending on current form,injuries,etc.

FlashBolt
02-20-2014, 02:50 AM
You could see 4-5 teams coming out of the West but the Warriors not one of them?Do you feel the Blazers are more dangerous than the Warriors in the playoffs?

Portland is much better than Warriors in terms of a well rounded team. Warriors depend on Curry to bail them out much too many times. Batum, Lillard, Mathews, and LA are far more dangerous.

WARRIORS@GR
02-20-2014, 02:57 AM
Portland is much better than Warriors in terms of a well rounded team. Warriors depend on Curry to bail them out much too many times. Batum, Lillard, Mathews, and LA are far more dangerous.They will get destroyed in the 1st round.No depth,no defense in the WC playoffs will kill you.Warriors have a top 3 defense when healthy,and they did well last year without Lee in the playoffs offensively.They expect Curry to bail them out too much?Of course he will,that's why he's a top 5 player this year.That's what top 5 players do.

Rndy
02-20-2014, 03:06 AM
I really like the Warriors in the playoffs if they go in with a healthy Bogut and Lee teams need to watch out. Their biggest weakness just got fixed getting a back up PG although I felt they should have gone after Hinrich to give themselves and extra great on ball defense to guard PG/SG and take some pressure off of Iggy as being the main perimeter defender. But they got a good back up PG maybe they can work out a trade for Gibson and Dunleavy to give them a veteran shooter off the bench and a legit post defender who can switch on anyone at any time take and give Lee and Bogut rest.

sunsfan88
02-20-2014, 05:37 AM
Warriors now just need to get Blake and Crawford into the system without messing up team chemistry and their solid.

sunsfan88
02-20-2014, 05:37 AM
Say what you want but Dwight has a sense of humor.

(Oh and check out the comments on that video if you want a perspective of what others think of LAL fans)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPviHzIDqU&feature=player_embedded

and


Flea ‏@flea333 5h

I screamed at Dwight that he sucked and he turned to me and said thank you. Now I feel guilty. The guy went and became a human being on me

kdspurman
02-20-2014, 10:00 AM
Houston has seemed like a matchup problem for us thus far, but playoffs change everything when it comes to making adjustments from game to game, that's when you start to see a series swing one way or another. Although, it will be interesting to see, cause if they are knocking down the 3's consistently they are very dangerous.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 10:03 AM
Here's another video of Howard, Parsons and Lin chanting it after last night's game. People can say what they want about the guy, but he really seems to be get along with his teammates in Houston, and I'm glad he's found a place where he feels he belongs.

http://nba.si.com/2014/02/20/dwight-howard-rockets-lakers-mock-chants/

c.c.
02-20-2014, 10:11 AM
Howard and Harden both with double-doubles then throw in 18 from Parsons! Great game

c.c.
02-20-2014, 10:16 AM
You could see 4-5 teams coming out of the West but the Warriors not one of them?Do you feel the Blazers are more dangerous than the Warriors in the playoffs?

Yes, the Warriors are fun to watch when their threes are falling but I never took them serious as a contender. Just good entertainment sometimes, that's all.

D-Leethal
02-20-2014, 10:23 AM
Houston has seemed like a matchup problem for us thus far, but playoffs change everything when it comes to making adjustments from game to game, that's when you start to see a series swing one way or another. Although, it will be interesting to see, cause if they are knocking down the 3's consistently they are very dangerous.

That sig is awesome. ****ing love Timmy.

D-Leethal
02-20-2014, 10:24 AM
Warriors are better equipped for playoff ball than the Rockets IMO. Rockets aren't outscoring their way to the WCF. Warriors can put the clamps on D.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 10:35 AM
Warriors are better equipped for playoff ball than the Rockets IMO. Rockets aren't outscoring their way to the WCF. Warriors can put the clamps on D.

So can Houston. People seem to forget that the Rockets are fifth in the league in opponents FG%. And with Asik back in the lineup, they don't have to worry about the bench anymore. The only reason people think the Rockets' defense sucks is because they allow 88 FGA per game (29th in the league), because of the pace they play offensively, their high turnover rate and the offensive rebounding they allow. But when they need to play lockdown half-court defense late in games, they can certainly do it.

koreancabbage
02-20-2014, 10:41 AM
Laker fans should have chanted "Lakers suck" LOL

kdspurman
02-20-2014, 10:44 AM
That sig is awesome. ****ing love Timmy.

Thanks man. Watching him operate in the post even at at his age sometimes is just a pleasure to watch. Especially cause you don't see even simple moves like that too often anymore

tredigs
02-20-2014, 12:28 PM
Morey definitely understands the sustainable long term value of taking both a ton of 3's and FT's; Which they shoot and get more of than anyone in the league. And they're not the Blazers, they're a solid defensive team. But I do think they'll experience some tough lessons in the post season due to the fact that some refs feel much more pressure to swallow their whistle (especially when they're in an away playoff crowd) and perimeter defense will be ramped up to 48 minutes of high intensity play. They're also highly turnover prone in the same vein as Golden State (whose turnovers should go down slightly now that they have somebody to run a 2nd unit), which is a tough trait in the post season.

Depending on matchups, I see a 1st or 2nd round exit for Houston, but a WCF birth isn't out of the question if they catch a few breaks or play a team that loses a star. If I had to choose one, I'd say 2nd round exit.

I'm excited to see Golden State matchup with them tonight for the first time with Iguodala - especially if Blake plays - but that's going to lose a lot of luster for me if we don't have Bogut in there. I want to see these two play at 100%... GS isn't holding up their end of the bargain.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 02:41 PM
Morey definitely understands the sustainable long term value of taking both a ton of 3's and FT's; Which they shoot and get more of than anyone in the league. And they're not the Blazers, they're a solid defensive team. But I do think they'll experience some tough lessons in the post season due to the fact that some refs feel much more pressure to swallow their whistle (especially when they're in an away playoff crowd) and perimeter defense will be ramped up to 48 minutes of high intensity play. They're also highly turnover prone in the same vein as Golden State (whose turnovers should go down slightly now that they have somebody to run a 2nd unit), which is a tough trait in the post season.

Depending on matchups, I see a 1st or 2nd round exit for Houston, but a WCF birth isn't out of the question if they catch a few breaks or play a team that loses a star. If I had to choose one, I'd say 2nd round exit.

I'm excited to see Golden State matchup with them tonight for the first time with Iguodala - especially if Blake plays - but that's going to lose a lot of luster for me if we don't have Bogut in there. I want to see these two play at 100%... GS isn't holding up their end of the bargain.

A possible 1st round exit? That's a tad insulting given that they're currently the third seed and are the hottest team in the league right now. I suppose we'll have to wait and see, but I'd be stunned if they didn't make it at least as far as a 5-6-game exit in the second round.

tredigs
02-20-2014, 03:08 PM
A possible 1st round exit? That's a tad insulting given that they're currently the third seed and are the hottest team in the league right now. I suppose we'll have to wait and see, but I'd be stunned if they didn't make it at least as far as a 5-6-game exit in the second round.

You find the notion that a 1st round exit in the Western Conference as a possibility for Houston is "insulting". Haha that's amazing. If they are the 3 seed and hottest team in the NBA 2 months from now, that statement would be less laughable to me. But, still laughable. The only teams where a fan could be justifiably "insulted" with somebody claiming a 1st round exit is the 2nd most likely outcome for their playoff run would be Miami, Indiana and OKC. And it's no guarantee for OKC either.

And for what it's worth, they still currently rank 7th in both the Hollinger Power Rankings and Basketball-Reference's SRS, behind Golden State in both - 5th among Western Conference teams. It's a hot run, we'll see how long it continues.

Do you perceive them as a finals team?

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 03:26 PM
You find the notion that a 1st round exit in the Western Conference as a possibility for Houston is "insulting". Haha that's amazing. If they are the 3 seed and hottest team in the NBA 2 months from now, that statement would be less laughable to me. But, still laughable. The only teams where a fan could be justifiably "insulted" with somebody claiming a 1st round exit is the 2nd most likely outcome for their playoff run would be Miami, Indiana and OKC. And it's no guarantee for OKC either.
A 3rd seed should be expected to beat a 6th seed in most circumstances. To assume the higher seed would lose in that first round matchup would obviously be insulting to a fan of that team. It's common sense, bro. Don't overthink it.


And for what it's worth, they still currently rank 7th in both the Hollinger Power Rankings and Basketball-Reference's SRS, behind Golden State in both - 5th among Western Conference teams. It's a hot run, we'll see how long it continues.
Who gives a ****? SRS and Hollinger's rankings are nice, but they don't take a lot of things into consideration. For one, Houston has been famous this season for playing down to inferior opponents. If you don't have a high point differential, you're going to be a lot lower on statistical rankings like Hollinger's. But a win is still a win, whether it's by 1 point or 21 points. And I don't know what Houston's record is against playoff teams in the West, but it's got to be pretty darn good, because they've dominated Golden State, San Antonio and Portland, are winning the series against Dallas and have split with Phoenix.

Bottom line, you are your record, and the Rockets not only have a great record but have beaten some damn good teams this season. The Wolves have a +3.9 win differential and are 8th in Hollinger's standings. They are not remotely close to the 8th best team in the league.


Do you perceive them as a finals team?
Can they be? Certainly. If they play their best basketball at the right time, they're as talented as any team in the league. But I certainly wouldn't bet on it. I see them as a second round or WCF exit this season, and as some of their younger players develop, they will eventually make their way to some NBA Finals appearances.

I don't think this team is good enough to beat OKC yet, but I'd take them in a series against almost anyone else and I think it'd be a coin flip against San Antonio or the Clippers.

tredigs
02-20-2014, 03:40 PM
SRS is a far better predictor of playoff success than your record on the whole. We disagree that a 1 point win is the same as a 21 point win - so far as it concerns the strength of a team and how far you can expect them to go. Though neither have enough context to be the be all when the playoffs get going (health and matchups being #1 and #2).

You're just being a defensive homer, really. I said that a 2nd round exit is what I saw as the most likely scenario for them, and that a 1st round exit is also a possibility (as is a WCF trip). You saw one part of a statement that didn't praise your team in the glowing light you see them and took offense. It's what homers do.

For the reasons I laid out along with some others, I find them a less scary post season team than regular. Better than Portland, but in that boat, and not a team I imagine reaching the finals.

mightybosstone
02-20-2014, 04:00 PM
SRS is a far better predictor of playoff success than your record on the whole. We disagree that a 1 point win is the same as a 21 point win - so far as it concerns the strength of a team and how far you can expect them to go. Though neither have enough context to be the be all when the playoffs get going (health and matchups being #1 and #2).

You're just being a defensive homer, really. I said that a 2nd round exit is what I saw as the most likely scenario for them, and that a 1st round exit is also a possibility (as is a WCF trip). You saw one part of a statement that didn't praise your team in the glowing light you see them and took offense. It's what homers do.
Oh, jesus.... Get over yourself. I saw you bring up that a 1st round exit was a real possibility and I defended my team. That hardly makes me a "homer." If defending your team when someone either says something derogatory about them or doesn't give them enough credit is considered being a homer, then I'd say pretty much 100 percent of all fans can be considered homers.

As far as SRS goes, it's a nice indicator of the elite teams and how teams perform throughout the season, but as far as I know, I don't believe it has any sort of barometer which evaluates how a team has performed lately. Just like any new that that's been thrown together, Houston has evolved as a basketball team, and the team we're seeing now is not the team from the start of the season.


For the reasons I laid out along with some others, I find them a less scary post season team than regular. Better than Portland, but in that boat, and not a team I imagine reaching the finals.
That's your prerogative, and I understand why you feel that way. I don't see them reaching the Finals either, but I also don't think it's insane to think it's possible, either. I could feasibly see them losing in the first round or winning the NBA Championship and everything between.

D-Leethal
02-20-2014, 05:53 PM
Thanks man. Watching him operate in the post even at at his age sometimes is just a pleasure to watch. Especially cause you don't see even simple moves like that too often anymore

Old School basketball. Fakes and footwork, love that ****.