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SanPitte
02-16-2014, 01:49 PM
what do you guys think could have been?

letsgoo
02-16-2014, 01:52 PM
The sum of the parts would be less than the whole IMO.

They would have 3 players that would basically like to perform the same role.

ichitownclowni
02-16-2014, 01:53 PM
Enough with this. Same question every 3 months

SanPitte
02-16-2014, 02:03 PM
of course i'm wondering where the Thunder would be, and if they'd be the reigning champion...
but also what they would do with their assets approaching this year's trade deadline (no Lamb, no Steven Adams, no trade exception..)
AND where Dwight would have gone without Harden on the Rockets

just imagine how different the landscape of the NBA would be if Presti had paid Harden what he wanted

nastynice
02-16-2014, 02:08 PM
The sum of the parts would be less than the whole IMO.

They would have 3 players that would basically like to perform the same role.

x3. Three players on the same team who perform best when the ball is in their hands would be counter productive. Its why teams that are built don't require as much talent as teams that are slapped together.

ichitownclowni
02-16-2014, 02:09 PM
Dwight to GS, Harden would not be considered a Superstar and either Westy or Harden would have been traded this off season.

sunsfan88
02-16-2014, 02:23 PM
I have a question...Harden, right now, gets a lot of the "superstar" calls that all "superstars" get, correct?

Did he get those same "superstar" calls in OKC? If not, would he have eventually gotten those had he stayed in OKC?

ManRam
02-16-2014, 02:31 PM
I have a question...Harden, right now, gets a lot of the "superstar" calls that all "superstars" get, correct?

Did he get those same "superstar" calls in OKC? If not, would he have eventually gotten those had he stayed in OKC?

Harden's free throw rate was higher his last year in OKC than it is this year.

So yes. He would.

He gets "superstar calls" because he's phenomenal at creating, drawing and embellishing contact and because he has the ball in his hands and attacks so frequently. He's perhaps the single best in the league outside of KD.

tr3ymill3r
02-16-2014, 02:43 PM
When they had the team of Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green and Ibaka they should have traded Westbrook and Green to New Orleans for CP3 and Ibaka and Harden for Dwight Howard. CP3, Durant and Dwight would have beat the Heat and anyone else that got in their way for a long time.

letsgoo
02-16-2014, 02:48 PM
When they had the team of Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green and Ibaka they should have traded Westbrook and Green to New Orleans for CP3 and Ibaka and Harden for Dwight Howard. CP3, Durant and Dwight would have beat the Heat and anyone else that got in their way for a long time.

That's fantasy, but it would have been a great team.

That would be three different very good players. With 3 different roles. And only Howard has an ego.

But I bet Howard's ego would have been a huge problem. Durant would be the #1 option. Paul would have a blast driving and passing, but Howard would complain.

ManRam
02-16-2014, 02:49 PM
When they had the team of Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green and Ibaka they should have traded Westbrook and Green to New Orleans for CP3 and Ibaka and Harden for Dwight Howard. CP3, Durant and Dwight would have beat the Heat and anyone else that got in their way for a long time.

Sounds more like a video game than something that ever happens in reality.

JEDean89
02-16-2014, 03:03 PM
money wasn't the issue in OKC, he wanted his own team and a chance to lead the league in scoring and win MVP. though he isn't KD, he would never be the starting allstar he is today coming off the bench for OKC and starting him next to westbrook and kd would have stunted him. it is best for the nba that he and Dwight are in houston and okc has westbrook and kd, two fun teams to watch instead of one.

ManRam
02-16-2014, 03:09 PM
money wasn't the issue in OKC, he wanted his own team and a chance to lead the league in scoring and win MVP. though he isn't KD, he would never be the starting allstar he is today coming off the bench for OKC and starting him next to westbrook and kd would have stunted him. it is best for the nba that he and Dwight are in houston and okc has westbrook and kd, two fun teams to watch instead of one.

Wait, you really think OKC traded him as a favor to him? Come on. That's preposterous.

letsgoo
02-16-2014, 03:21 PM
Wait, you really think OKC traded him as a favor to him? Come on. That's preposterous.

Good point. They would never do that.

Baller1
02-16-2014, 03:39 PM
They'd be a dynasty. Instead, they're just Miami's little brother.

2-ONE-5
02-16-2014, 03:57 PM
The sum of the parts would be less than the whole IMO.

They would have 3 players that would basically like to perform the same role.

exactly

tr3ymill3r
02-16-2014, 10:28 PM
Sounds more like a video game than something that ever happens in reality.

Please elaborate as to how or why that couldn't happen? The Miami Heat have 3 big contracts, and those were legitimate trades.

brandt
02-17-2014, 12:18 AM
I have a question...Harden, right now, gets a lot of the "superstar" calls that all "superstars" get, correct?

Did he get those same "superstar" calls in OKC? If not, would he have eventually gotten those had he stayed in OKC?


He gets a lot of those super star calls now because he is the only superstar on the Rockets right now. He would not have eventually gotten them in OK because as long as Durrant is there, Harden is just a role player.

JEDean89
02-17-2014, 12:46 AM
Wait, you really think OKC traded him as a favor to him? Come on. That's preposterous.

where did i say that? he had leverage in that he didn't have to sign with OKC, he could have become a FA. Yes he wanted max money but it has been said over and over again that he also wanted to be the alpha dog on his own team. was it a favor to him? no, neither was the Nuggets trading Melo to the Knicks, it simply was the best situation for all parties considered. OKC got some nice pieces in return, and Harden got his money and the role he wanted.