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smith&wesson
02-14-2014, 06:22 PM
So let me get this straight. Wade has hardley played this season, didnt play in the last game before the allstar break. But still some how is healthy enough to play the all star game.

Am I missing something here ? lance stephenson and kyle lowry have been playing out of their minds this year. They dont get voted in by the fans, or the coaches. But a player who has been injured, sick, misses games cuz of that time of the month gets to start in the all star game.

They should take voting away from the little kids. There should aslo be a rule that you have to play a certain amount of games and play at a certain level to be considered an allstar. reputations should be thrown out the door. If you want to be an allstar every year you should have to play like one every year. if you are injured you are injured, thats part of the game.

Im sorry but d.wade is not deserving of an all star spot this year. I can name 5 guys who deserved the spot over him.

Rant over.

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Heat All-Star guard Dwyane Wade said he will play in Sunday's NBA All-Star Game. Wade suffered a drop foot injury on Wednesday.

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smith&wesson
02-14-2014, 06:27 PM
:mad:

bholly
02-14-2014, 06:38 PM
Not sure what makes you think your opinion on this is so worthy that it needs its own thread, rather than one of the other 5, but whatever.

Three points:
1) It's a game for the fans. An exhibition. It's meaningless. The fans who care enough to vote are exactly the ones who should be deciding who plays. That's the whole point.
2) If you want to restrict people by number of games played, you're going to have to cut out CP3, too. They've both played 36. That's 70% of Miami's games for DWade. If the games played cutoff is below that you're going to have some pretty deserving guys miss out some years.
3) His level of play isn't so low that he clearly shouldn't be playing. If it was a young player playing the way he is, everyone would be totally fine with him making it. That is to say, the reputation thing works both ways - you can't get angry about a guy making it just because he used to be better.

smith&wesson
02-14-2014, 06:45 PM
Not sure what makes you think your opinion on this is so worthy that it needs its own thread, rather than one of the other 5, but whatever.

Three points:
1) It's a game for the fans. An exhibition. It's meaningless. The fans who care enough to vote are exactly the ones who should be deciding who plays. That's the whole point.
2) If you want to restrict people by number of games played, you're going to have to cut out CP3, too. They've both played 36. That's 70% of Miami's games for DWade. If the games played cutoff is below that you're going to have some pretty deserving guys miss out some years.
3) His level of play isn't so low that he clearly shouldn't be playing. If it was a young player playing the way he is, everyone would be totally fine with him making it. That is to say, the reputation thing works both ways - you can't get angry about a guy making it just because he used to be better.

because the news just came out that he infact playing in the game ??

not sure why you give a **** when someone makes a thread. does it bother you ? take your back seat mod *** out of my thread lol.

haha jk.

i just think its a joke the way the all star selections are handled. for example yao ming being selected in a few years in a row even though he wasnt even playing in the last few seasons of his career. Just because he was asian he kept getting voted in. is that not a joke ?

At least we have some justice with davis getting kobes spot in the west.

these players play the sport for a career. The all star game does infact mean something to there careers, specially in terms of contracts.

With that said, there must be a more proffesional way for the nba to select its allstars and get it right every year.. I want to see the best play vs the best, not who has had the best reputation play vs the best. or who is the most popular etc.

it should be performance based period!!

DR_1
02-14-2014, 11:24 PM
So let me get this straight. Wade has hardley played this season, didnt play in the last game before the allstar break. But still some how is healthy enough to play the all star game.

Am I missing something here ? lance stephenson and kyle lowry have been playing out of their minds this year. They dont get voted in by the fans, or the coaches. But a player who has been injured, sick, misses games cuz of that time of the month gets to start in the all star game.

They should take voting away from the little kids. There should aslo be a rule that you have to play a certain amount of games and play at a certain level to be considered an allstar. reputations should be thrown out the door. If you want to be an allstar every year you should have to play like one every year. if you are injured you are injured, thats part of the game.

Im sorry but d.wade is not deserving of an all star spot this year. I can name 5 guys who deserved the spot over him.

Rant over.

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Heat All-Star guard Dwyane Wade said he will play in Sunday's NBA All-Star Game. Wade suffered a drop foot injury on Wednesday.

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I agree. Doesn't make sense.

NBA_Starter
02-14-2014, 11:26 PM
He should have just sat it out and had more rest for the second half of the season, I doubt he would got rusty!

JEDean89
02-14-2014, 11:30 PM
the allstar game is more for casual fans, as much as we all know there are more deserving players, the casual fan wants to see wade over lowry, it is as it is.

PleaseBeNice
02-15-2014, 12:01 AM
I ****ing hate wade

Raps08-09 Champ
02-15-2014, 12:09 AM
You have to give up your spot in order to be taken off the team. Technically, you can be injured (not a major one) but still be part of the roster if you don't withdraw your name.

bucketss
02-15-2014, 12:32 AM
he will probably play a few minutes and than get shut down smh what a waste of a spot.

DallasTrilla23
02-15-2014, 12:51 AM
The only thing I don't like is that he's gonna play small minutes. He's been in a million of these and is battling injuries. He should of gave his spot up to a young guy like Stephenson and Lowry who might not have another all-star season.

bbcmillionaire
02-15-2014, 12:52 AM
Cp3 and wade shouldn't play. Their spots should go to Stephenson and dragic. But this is how the nba is now. Wade is declining and wants to take any glory he has left. I think cp3 just wants to be on the team with griffin.

Dade County
02-15-2014, 01:12 AM
So let me get this straight. Wade has hardley played this season, didnt play in the last game before the allstar break. But still some how is healthy enough to play the all star game.

Am I missing something here ? lance stephenson and kyle lowry have been playing out of their minds this year. They dont get voted in by the fans, or the coaches. But a player who has been injured, sick, misses games cuz of that time of the month gets to start in the all star game.

They should take voting away from the little kids. There should aslo be a rule that you have to play a certain amount of games and play at a certain level to be considered an allstar. reputations should be thrown out the door. If you want to be an allstar every year you should have to play like one every year. if you are injured you are injured, thats part of the game.

Im sorry but d.wade is not deserving of an all star spot this year. I can name 5 guys who deserved the spot over him.

Rant over.

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Heat All-Star guard Dwyane Wade said he will play in Sunday's NBA All-Star Game. Wade suffered a drop foot injury on Wednesday.

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He missed like 15games, you make it seem like he only played 15 games. And Wade is fine, this is just another part of the sacrifice he had to make, playing along side Lbj (I still say that Lbj sacrifice was much bigger, giving away the title to Dallas).

D Wade hasn't been able to play like the super star he is, so yes, maybe other guys should have gotten the nod; but Wade is better then those 5 guys you would have named (even when he's only 70% healthy).

JordansBulls
02-15-2014, 01:19 AM
Well of course he can play. He did something very few have done and that is led a franchise that never won to a title as the man and did so for the franchise that drafted him. He didn't cop out going to a franchise that already had proven champion as the man.

stawka
02-15-2014, 01:24 AM
well of course he can play. He did something very few have done and that is led a franchise that never won to a title as the man and did so for the franchise that drafted him. He didn't cop out going to a franchise that already had proven champion as the man.

lmfao!!

eibbor
02-15-2014, 01:32 AM
Pretending you are hurt or injured when you just don't have it anymore is cool for the regular season I guess... But give your all star seat up when you realize you aren't one anymore damn

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 01:33 AM
Well put JB. That will always be the deciding factor of James vs Jordan or James vs Bird or James vs Magic or anyone else in the top 10 discussion outside of Moses Malone. Wade is a *****... But he was the man on a championship team. I can't see any of the other GOAT type players joining forces with who should be their nemesis.

Honestly I think James buddy ****ed Wade out of a more pronounced legacy. Had they not joined forces Wade may have been able to lead the cHeat to another title on his own or possibly won MVP. What kind of friend forces their way into your city and takes your team away? Lebron is a douche.

HoopsDrive
02-15-2014, 01:35 AM
Well of course he can play. He did something very few have done and that is led a franchise that never won to a title as the man and did so for the franchise that drafted him. He didn't cop out going to a franchise that already had proven champion as the man.

wtf :laugh2:

Slug3
02-15-2014, 01:36 AM
Pretending you are hurt or injured when you just don't have it anymore is cool for the regular season I guess... But give your all star seat up when you realize you aren't one anymore damn

When he's not one? If he played regular his stats would be better than anyone that would have replaced him.

But I for one thought it was selfish of him to miss like 30-40% of the games and then play the all star game for like 5/10 minutes when clearly a younger star would have enjoyed it more.

eibbor
02-15-2014, 01:38 AM
When he's not one? If he played regular his stats would be better than anyone that would have replaced him.

But I for one thought it was selfish of him to miss like 30-40% of the games and then play the all star game for like 5/10 minutes when clearly a younger star would have enjoyed it more.

I agree with your first 4 words.

bucketss
02-15-2014, 01:41 AM
Well of course he can play. He did something very few have done and that is led a franchise that never won to a title as the man and did so for the franchise that drafted him. He didn't cop out going to a franchise that already had proven champion as the man.

okay??? what does past accomplishment have to do with the 2014 all star game?

bucketss
02-15-2014, 01:43 AM
Well put JB. That will always be the deciding factor of James vs Jordan or James vs Bird or James vs Magic or anyone else in the top 10 discussion outside of Moses Malone. Wade is a *****... But he was the man on a championship team. I can't see any of the other GOAT type players joining forces with who should be their nemesis.

Honestly I think James buddy ****ed Wade out of a more pronounced legacy. Had they not joined forces Wade may have been able to lead the cHeat to another title on his own or possibly won MVP. What kind of friend forces their way into your city and takes your team away? Lebron is a douche.

LMAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! let it all out, even though this has nothing to do with the thread

Slug3
02-15-2014, 01:44 AM
okay??? what does past accomplishment have to do with the 2014 all star game?

He was making fun of Lebron.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2014, 01:44 AM
the fans voted him there. Is it annoying that he will probably play like 10 minutes total, when we have Lowry sitting at home? Yes.

But the all star game is for the fans. Every single year, there are 1-4 players that have no real business being there. Oh well.

PleaseBeNice
02-15-2014, 01:51 AM
Well of course he can play. He did something very few have done and that is led a franchise that never won to a title as the man and did so for the franchise that drafted him. He didn't cop out going to a franchise that already had proven champion as the man.

Why don't you go create another hypothetical thread? After all, you do have HCA (Homecourt Advantage).

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 04:23 AM
LMAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! let it all out, even though this has nothing to do with the thread

Just saying. But no Wade does not deserve to be an all star this year. It is a joke that Wade, Joe Johnson and head case in the making Kyrie Irving are playing in this game. **** the casual fans. The ASG does mean something to players and influences bigger career accolades like HOF consideration and jersey retiring, etc.

It's not even close to MVP, winning the Finals, or Finals MVP. But it does count for something. I can't count how many times I have seen # of all star selections in arguments regarding comparisons or HOF induction.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2014, 04:36 AM
Well put JB. That will always be the deciding factor of James vs Jordan or James vs Bird or James vs Magic or anyone else in the top 10 discussion outside of Moses Malone. Wade is a *****... But he was the man on a championship team. I can't see any of the other GOAT type players joining forces with who should be their nemesis.

Honestly I think James buddy ****ed Wade out of a more pronounced legacy. Had they not joined forces Wade may have been able to lead the cHeat to another title on his own or possibly won MVP. What kind of friend forces their way into your city and takes your team away? Lebron is a douche.

except, you do realize that those players teams gave them hall of fame talent, right? In Magic, Bird, Duncan, or Kobe's case, pretty much immediately...

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 04:44 AM
except, you do realize that those players teams gave them hall of fame talent, right? In Magic, Bird, Duncan, or Kobe's case, pretty much immediately...

True he could have gone to New York with Stat, or Dallas and teamed up with Dirk, joined Chicago with a then relatively unknown Drose and Boozer. But he chose to go to a proven winner with a proven Finals MVP. It wasn't really his team until last year. That's why his legacy is flawed in comparison.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2014, 04:48 AM
True he could have gone to New York with Stat, or Dallas and teamed up with Dirk, joined Chicago with a then relatively unknown Drose and Boozer. But he chose to go to a proven winner with a proven Finals MVP. It wasn't really his team until last year. That's why his legacy is flawed in comparison.

I disagree. Totally. You claimed he couldn't stack up to the other 10 top players ever because he joined forces elsewhere. You do realize some other top 10 players did the same thing, right?

And can you honestly tell me that LeBron was offered chip help in Cleveland? Furthermore, can you honestly tell me he has had amazing help, if we are talking Wade/Bosh, for the his 2 finals runs? Last year, Wade was garbage by a superstars standards. Bosh disappeared and ran for his life in the ECF's.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2014, 04:50 AM
and please, not his team? Wade took a backseat publically halfway into year 1, and Bosh was begging to not be a star.

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 04:53 AM
and please, not his team? Wade took a backseat publically halfway into year 1, and Bosh was begging to not be a star.

Wade won the first title in the Finals. He may have disappeared publicly. But he is the main reason they beat OKC. He also carried them to the Finals in year one IMO.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2014, 04:55 AM
Wade won the first title in the Finals. He may have disappeared publicly. But he is the main reason they beat OKC. He also carried them to the Finals in year one IMO.

Show me. LeBron absolutely outplayed everyone on the court. Show me I am wrong.

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 05:10 AM
Year one (2010-11) playoff stats

DWade: 24.5ppg on 49% shooting, 39mpg, .216 ws/48

LBJ: 23.7ppg on 46% shooting, 44mpg .198 ws/48

PER: Wade 26.3 LBJ 23.7

The only place Lebron outplayed Wade was on the glass and stat padding.

I am now discussing my two least favorite things... the Heat and advanced stats... LOL.

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 05:16 AM
I will give it to you that LBJ carried the team in 2011-12. Statistically at least.

Hawkeye15
02-15-2014, 05:19 AM
Year one (2010-11) playoff stats

DWade: 24.5ppg on 49% shooting, 39mpg, .216 ws/48

LBJ: 23.7ppg on 46% shooting, 44mpg .198 ws/48

PER: Wade 26.3 LBJ 23.7

The only place Lebron outplayed Wade was on the glass and stat padding.

I am now discussing my two least favorite things... the Heat and advanced stats... LOL.

for sure year 1 of the new Heat, LeBron failed.

But to tell me the last 2 years weren't beyond impressive, and LeBron didn't prove he was an all timer is just false.

Drummond#1
02-15-2014, 05:26 AM
I agree with you. And he is an all timer especially based off the past two seasons. I just think his decisions might hurt him in the long run. :cheers:

Raps08-09 Champ
02-15-2014, 01:30 PM
I agree with you. And he is an all timer especially based off the past two seasons. I just think his decisions might hurt him in the long run. :cheers:

It probably will but it shouldn't. It's embarrassing people hold that against him when talking about his GOAT ranking.

SportsFanatic10
02-15-2014, 11:05 PM
Pretending you are hurt or injured when you just don't have it anymore is cool for the regular season I guess... But give your all star seat up when you realize you aren't one anymore damn

lol you obviously don't know the situation...

Jamiecballer
02-15-2014, 11:23 PM
:mad:
i share your pain. it is a bit of a dick move.

king4day
02-15-2014, 11:34 PM
I like the idea that, even if voted in by fans (like Kobe), if you don't play a specific number of games or minutes, that you become ineligible. I get it that it's for the fans, but it's also a reward for the players which gets ruined by the fans.