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Stunner
02-03-2014, 01:40 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2014-02-03/philadelphia-sixers-even-turner-nba-trade-rumor-deadline-sam-hinkie-david-falk-jrue-holiday?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Sixers looking to net a draft pick for him and were selling his gear with a 25% discount . If Phx could net Turner and Hawes for just Meka and the Indy pick that would be a steal .


Bledsoe / Ish
Dragic/ GG
Turner/ Tucker
Frye / Morris
Miles / Hawes / Len

Stunner
02-03-2014, 01:49 PM
I would for the bulls to get in on this , Boozer , Mike Jr , Kings pick and a 2nd for Turner and Hawes work

KniCks4LiFe
02-03-2014, 01:49 PM
PHX isn't going after Evan Turner :laugh2:

They are after Pau Gasol and likely will call the Knicks about the availability of Melo.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 01:59 PM
PHX isn't going after Evan Turner :laugh2:

They are after Pau Gasol and likely will call the Knicks about the availability of Melo.

Idk why you're laughing , Lakers FO are real stubborn I honestly don't see Gasol moved because they would wan too much . Suns are buyers this deadline and will make the best move without giving up a lot . If they would somehow by a miracle pull that trade off it increases them as a threat in the playoffs . Turner is an upgrade at the SF spot and Hawes fits their system , a big that likes to shoot threes once Frye sits .

LJEATON26
02-03-2014, 01:59 PM
I wouldn't mind Turner on the thunder for sefolosha and our first

majmarcus
02-03-2014, 02:02 PM
I would love for this kid to come to LA and back up Kobe. Maybe even play 2 while Kobe move to the 3

Stunner
02-03-2014, 02:04 PM
Philly should try and trade Young for a SF , Maybe since Deng is unhappy in Clevland and prob leaving they could do a Young for Deng swap it works salary wise . I could see Deng re upping with Philly or heading to the Lakers ; but if they do that Bulls trade and keep Deng they could have a nice roster with Noel coming back next year .
Also have a good chance of keeping Deng with Boozer there another season because of the Bulls ties.
MCW
Richardson / Draft Pick
Deng
Boozer
Noel

theducksmuggler
02-03-2014, 02:20 PM
Us 76ers fans have been waiting for him to get traded all damn year......

KniCks4LiFe
02-03-2014, 02:23 PM
Idk why you're laughing , Lakers FO are real stubborn I honestly don't see Gasol moved because they would wan too much . Suns are buyers this deadline and will make the best move without giving up a lot . If they would somehow by a miracle pull that trade off it increases them as a threat in the playoffs . Turner is an upgrade at the SF spot and Hawes fits their system , a big that likes to shoot threes once Frye sits .

Suns want a star player. They aren't trading those pieces for Evan Turner.

bringbackfredex
02-03-2014, 02:26 PM
I wouldn't mind Turner on the thunder for sefolosha and our first

Why in the world would the Sixers want to do this? Sefolosha is nothing more than a defensive specialist and the Thunder would pretty much be giving us the equivalent of an early 2nd round pick.

"I wouldn't mind" Durant on the Sixers for Turner and a 1st either.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 02:31 PM
Suns want a star player. They aren't trading those pieces for Evan Turner.

Lol no they don't they're looking for a player or players that makes them better now . Like I said Suns aren't trying to give up multiple picks for a player half a season . I'm sorry but Turner and Hawes > Gasol . Suns would have a better chance giving up one pick to Philly than multiple picks for Gasol. Heck go check out the Gasol thread most don't want him unless it's a straight swap but lakers are asking for 2 1st rounders it seems like .

Clippersfan86
02-03-2014, 02:31 PM
Wish we had more assets ;(. He is exactly what we need at the SF spot. Reggie Bullock+Jamal Crawford+2014 1st rounder for ET. Is that a dumb proposition guys?

Stunner
02-03-2014, 02:33 PM
Wish we had more assets ;(. He is exactly what we need at the SF spot. Reggie Bullock+Jamal Crawford+2014 1st rounder for ET. Is that a dumb proposition guys?

That's actually a nice deal , you don't like Crawford ?

Clippersfan86
02-03-2014, 02:36 PM
That's actually a nice deal , you don't like Crawford ?

I like Crawford but he's going to start declining in the next year or two and we need a SF badly. Redick>Crawford and I think it's much easier to find a solid backup SG than starting SF. We have a gaping hole at SF right now because both Barnes and Dudley have been INCREDIBLY streaky. Turner is like a 20/7/3 player or so this year right? I think it's worth it. Maybe they will prefer Dudley or Barnes in the deal too, who knows.

Crawford has been huge for us and is now averaging 18 or 19 ppg for us off the bench but I'd rather fill a starting hole than a bench one as I said.

mavwar53
02-03-2014, 02:37 PM
Don't see much working out for him. They will want a ton cause he is young and talented but he is not a star, not even an all star caliber player. That being said I think he would be a perfect fit for the warriors for Barnes, Brooks, and a couple 2nds. Barnes saves money since he's under control the next 2 years. I really like Barnes as a person and player but Turner would make the warriors bench more consistent. I don't see it happening not do I really want it to happen but it would help the warriors for the now.

Riodagoat
02-03-2014, 02:40 PM
I wouldn't mind Turner on the thunder for sefolosha and our first

Lol

Why don't you trade Perkins for Hawes and a 1st rounder while you're at it?

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 02:46 PM
Lol no they don't they're looking for a player or players that makes them better now . Like I said Suns aren't trying to give up multiple picks for a player half a season . I'm sorry but Turner and Hawes > Gasol . Suns would have a better chance giving up one pick to Philly than multiple picks for Gasol. Heck go check out the Gasol thread most don't want him unless it's a straight swap but lakers are asking for 2 1st rounders it seems like .

Nobody credible ever said Lakers are asking for two 1sts. Laker FANS get carried away. Don't take them seriously.

If a deal happens, it will be Gasol for Okafor and a 1st. PHX is probably offering IND's 1st while Lakers probably want MIN,WAS, or their own 2015 pick back.

PacersForLife
02-03-2014, 02:51 PM
I think he'd be a good fit with PHX.

KniCks4LiFe
02-03-2014, 03:10 PM
Lol no they don't they're looking for a player or players that makes them better now . Like I said Suns aren't trying to give up multiple picks for a player half a season . I'm sorry but Turner and Hawes > Gasol . Suns would have a better chance giving up one pick to Philly than multiple picks for Gasol. Heck go check out the Gasol thread most don't want him unless it's a straight swap but lakers are asking for 2 1st rounders it seems like .

Turner is a FA, Hawes is FA. The rumors being leaked out are that the Suns are going after Gasol. The difference w/ Gasol and those 2 other players is reliability and how he's a vet that is playoff proven.

I have not heard anything about Turner or Hawes. If the Suns want any Sixers player it likely is Thaddeus Young, but certainly not Turner who again they have Green at the 2 and PJ Tucker at the 3. Unless the guy coming in is a superstar they ain't moving those players from that unit.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 03:24 PM
Turner is a FA, Hawes is FA. The rumors being leaked out are that the Suns are going after Gasol. The difference w/ Gasol and those 2 other players is reliability and how he's a vet that is playoff proven.

I have not heard anything about Turner or Hawes. If the Suns want any Sixers player it likely is Thaddeus Young, but certainly not Turner who again they have Green at the 2 and PJ Tucker at the 3. Unless the guy coming in is a superstar they ain't moving those players from that unit.

I have heard any thing about Turner to the suns either it was just a suggestion pal and plus when Bledsoe comes back he's back in the starting lineup and Green back to the bench . Plus out of the three of Tucker / Green / Turner Turner is the best because he does what both do but can also dribble . Yes Gasol has championship exp but Turner and Hawes have some playoff exp too . It's not a bad trade , especially seeing how the LA front office is . They aren't looking to move Pau is so they have the advantage and I doubt the Suns want to give up high draft pick . But it's whatever you don't agree it's fine

KniCks4LiFe
02-03-2014, 03:32 PM
I have heard any thing about Turner to the suns either it was just a suggestion pal and plus when Bledsoe comes back he's back in the starting lineup and Green back to the bench . Plus out of the three of Tucker / Green / Turner Turner is the best because he does what both do but can also dribble . Yes Gasol has championship exp but Turner and Hawes have some playoff exp too . It's not a bad trade , especially seeing how the LA front office is . They aren't looking to move Pau is so they have the advantage and I doubt the Suns want to give up high draft pick . But it's whatever you don't agree it's fine

ok chill.

D_Rose1118
02-03-2014, 03:32 PM
Why in the world would the Sixers want to do this? Sefolosha is nothing more than a defensive specialist and the Thunder would pretty much be giving us the equivalent of an early 2nd round pick.

"I wouldn't mind" Durant on the Sixers for Turner and a 1st either.

idk i might take thabo if i am building a team today

PhillyFaninLA
02-03-2014, 03:34 PM
I would for the bulls to get in on this , Boozer , Mike Jr , Kings pick and a 2nd for Turner and Hawes work


Horrible trade for the Sixers....take on contract, get older, get underachieving talent, and risk winning more games

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 03:42 PM
PHX isn't going after Evan Turner :laugh2:

They are after Pau Gasol and likely will call the Knicks about the availability of Melo.

not the first time the Suns have been linked to ET.


Philly should try and trade Young for a SF , Maybe since Deng is unhappy in Clevland and prob leaving they could do a Young for Deng swap it works salary wise . I could see Deng re upping with Philly or heading to the Lakers ; but if they do that Bulls trade and keep Deng they could have a nice roster with Noel coming back next year .
Also have a good chance of keeping Deng with Boozer there another season because of the Bulls ties.
MCW
Richardson / Draft Pick
Deng
Boozer
Noel

what the ef? i dont even need to go into detail to explain how incredibly idiotic this is

PhillyFaninLA
02-03-2014, 03:42 PM
Thing people need to realize is the Sixers will only make a trade if it will get them expiring contracts, draft picks, or young talent. They won't trade for players that make them better this year.

Ebbs
02-03-2014, 03:43 PM
I would for the bulls to get in on this , Boozer , Mike Jr , Kings pick and a 2nd for Turner and Hawes work

Rose and ET do not like each other

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 03:43 PM
he was made available at the draft but there wasnt much interest at the time. i know Hinkie started out wanting a 2014 first for ET, Thad, Hawes but word is he s ok with a 2015 pick now. We dont need expiring deals since we are alraedy under the cap floor but im sure we will take on one to get the pick/s we want.

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 03:45 PM
Rose and ET do not like each other

that was petty HS stuff i highly doubt its an issue now but i dont see any deal with the Bulls bcuz taking back someone like Boozer isnt going to help the tank

Stunner
02-03-2014, 03:46 PM
Rose and ET do not like each other

Don't you think I know that ? Lol but still he'll be gone before Rose plays again

LJEATON26
02-03-2014, 03:46 PM
Why in the world would the Sixers want to do this? Sefolosha is nothing more than a defensive specialist and the Thunder would pretty much be giving us the equivalent of an early 2nd round pick.

"I wouldn't mind" Durant on the Sixers for Turner and a 1st either.

Sefolosha would be there to make the contracts match without having you take on a contract for next year. We also own Dallas top 20 protected pick. (Currently 21st pick)

I wouldn't give up durant for anything.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 03:47 PM
I just talked to Shammy and he says we shouldn't trade for Turner because he's bad at basketball lol

JLynn943
02-03-2014, 03:49 PM
I expect the Kings will look into this since we're looking to trade, but I'm not sure we could get a deal done as our 1st belongs to the Bulls (I think) if we aren't in the top 12 picks.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 03:51 PM
I expect the Kings will look into this since we're looking to trade, but I'm not sure we could get a deal done as our 1st belongs to the Bulls (I think) if we aren't in the top 12 picks.

Yea it does :) win the rest of your games so we can get it lol

Stunner
02-03-2014, 03:51 PM
Stay away from Evan Turner. He's REALLY bad at basketball, has never had an ORtg above 100 in a season, never had a season posting even 0.70 WS/48, never posted even a 14 PER nor a 53ts% or 46efg%. - Shammy

PhillyFaninLA
02-03-2014, 03:55 PM
he was made available at the draft but there wasnt much interest at the time. i know Hinkie started out wanting a 2014 first for ET, Thad, Hawes but word is he s ok with a 2015 pick now. We dont need expiring deals since we are alraedy under the cap floor but im sure we will take on one to get the pick/s we want.

We need expirings to get better free agents later....I don't agree at all with taking salary

LJEATON26
02-03-2014, 03:58 PM
Lol

Why don't you trade Perkins for Hawes and a 1st rounder while you're at it?

Cause right now if we make the finals and face Indy then I think perkins is a better defensive option to go against hibbert and Bynum. Plus we can still amnesty perkins during the offseason if we want to get rid of his awful contract.

SeoulBeatz
02-03-2014, 04:10 PM
A first in the 10-20 range in either this or next years draft is all I really want for Turner.

ewing
02-03-2014, 04:18 PM
who the **** is Shammy?

flea
02-03-2014, 04:21 PM
He's with CM Punk.

bringbackfredex
02-03-2014, 04:34 PM
Sefolosha would be there to make the contracts match without having you take on a contract for next year. We also own Dallas top 20 protected pick. (Currently 21st pick)

I wouldn't give up durant for anything.

Clearly sarcasm, the Sixers would only take a lottery pick for Turner and I only said Durant to make you realize that the offer you just suggested would be laughed at by our front office.

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 04:37 PM
We need expirings to get better free agents later....I don't agree at all with taking salary

huh? we dont need expirings we are well under the cap floor for the season. im sure Hinkie will take on one or two to get the pick/s he wants but we certainly are not out looking to deal players for expirings

LJEATON26
02-03-2014, 04:38 PM
Clearly sarcasm, the Sixers would only take a lottery pick for Turner and I only said Durant to make you realize that the offer you just suggested would be laughed at by our front office.

I don't see any team giving a 2014 lotto pick for Turner. He just doesn't have the value since he isn't guaranteed to be there next year.

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 04:39 PM
Clearly sarcasm, the Sixers would only take a lottery pick for Turner and I only said Durant to make you realize that the offer you just suggested would be laughed at by our front office.

this isnt true either. hinkie tried to get any additional first round pick last year for him and couldnt on draft ngiht. he is now having his best year and ahs a little more value but we sure arent holding out for a lotto pick seeing how lotto teams arent interested in him when hes aboutto hit RFA

JOSKOMANG4
02-03-2014, 04:59 PM
3 way trade:

- turner, hawes, and suns 2nd rd pick to lakers.
- okafur & suns 1st rd pick(pacers pick) to sixes.
- gasol to suns.

lol, please
02-03-2014, 05:12 PM
Warriors.

bholly
02-03-2014, 06:29 PM
I wouldn't mind Turner on the thunder for sefolosha and our first

I like Thabo but I think they hold out for more than that - he wouldn't really be a meaningful part of our future, and that pick isn't worth much given how good y'all are - they'd rather just buy into the early 2nd round.


I would love for this kid to come to LA and back up Kobe. Maybe even play 2 while Kobe move to the 3

I would love for him to, but the Lakers just don't have anything at all that the Sixers might want, so it would have to be a three-way.


I would for the bulls to get in on this , Boozer , Mike Jr , Kings pick and a 2nd for Turner and Hawes work

Works for what, exactly? "Give us your assets and we'll let you take on our deadweight salary and a pick you won't get for several years'. Ridiculous deal.


Philly should try and trade Young for a SF , Maybe since Deng is unhappy in Clevland and prob leaving they could do a Young for Deng swap it works salary wise . I could see Deng re upping with Philly or heading to the Lakers ; but if they do that Bulls trade and keep Deng they could have a nice roster with Noel coming back next year .
Also have a good chance of keeping Deng with Boozer there another season because of the Bulls ties.
MCW
Richardson / Draft Pick
Deng
Boozer
Noel

Don't see the team being interested in Deng at all. We're doing a slow rebuild - a few months of a guy who is only going to make our own pick worse just doesn't make any sense. Especially because there's a very good chance we draft an SF or PF. Try looking at these trades from both teams' point of view.


Don't see much working out for him. They will want a ton cause he is young and talented but he is not a star, not even an all star caliber player. That being said I think he would be a perfect fit for the warriors for Barnes, Brooks, and a couple 2nds. Barnes saves money since he's under control the next 2 years. I really like Barnes as a person and player but Turner would make the warriors bench more consistent. I don't see it happening not do I really want it to happen but it would help the warriors for the now.

I don't think they want that much - sounds increasingly like they're getting to fire sale levels. Barnes is like a dream trade for us - a lot more than anyone is expecting.


3 way trade:

- turner, hawes, and suns 2nd rd pick to lakers.
- okafur & suns 1st rd pick(pacers pick) to sixes.
- gasol to suns.

Hard to see why we'd give up both Turner and Hawes just to get a pick you can buy relatively easily. There's just no value for us in that deal at all, let alone for two guys with some value.


Warriors.

Again, Barnes is like a dream ET trade, but hard to see GSW go for it, and there isn't that much else that works out.

sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 06:44 PM
The idea that the Sixers need expiring contracts back for Hawes, Turner, or Thad is a misconceived notion. We don't need anymore cap space than we already have (we're currently below the minimum salary floor with no guaranteed contracts past next year with the exception of Thad, Nerlens, and MCW). There is no need for us to clear more money. I also feel strongly confident in saying that we won't be looking to make a big splash in free agency for another 2-3 years, once our younger pieces are more developed and we could be ready to compete.

What we really want are draft picks, 2014 or 2015. And players that won't make us better this season than we already are. We're fine with taking on uglier contracts, as long as they don't go past 1-2 more years after this season. That's the point of us having all this cap space for now. So we can take on more money from other teams in exchange for their draft picks. It makes us a very flexible trade partner.

Sixers fans who are demanding expiring contracts back in addition to draft picks for any of our players like Thad, Hawes, or Turner are misinformed. Will we take expiring draft picks? Sure, absolutely. But it's not necessary and almost completely irrelevant to us considering our salary cap situation for this year and beyond.

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 06:48 PM
Chicago would be a great trade partner if 76ers management wants to absorb Boozer's deal.

bholly
02-03-2014, 06:55 PM
Chicago would be a great trade partner if 76ers management wants to absorb Boozer's deal.

I don't think they'd mind taking Boozer for the right deal, but what's in it for the Sixers?

smith&wesson
02-03-2014, 06:55 PM
I think he will be traded to clevland in a trade centered around dion waiters.

sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 06:56 PM
Chicago would be a great trade partner if 76ers management wants to absorb Boozer's deal.

See, this could be a good idea for Philly. He's not an expiring until next year, takes up cap space, and might not necessarily make us better. We could ship Chi a combo of or any one of Thad, Turner, and/Hawes for Boozer and a pick or two.

The question is, why would Chicago be interested? Given their current situation, none of our players makes them contenders this year. Hawes and Turner expire after this season anyways. Why trade away draft picks for half a season of either of them? I could see them wanting Thad to keep around for a few years, but they already have Gibson locked up till 2017. Him and Thad are very similar players. Or maybe Gibson gets traded to us with Boozer and some picks as well?

smith&wesson
02-03-2014, 06:56 PM
I don't think they'd mind taking Boozer for the right deal, but what's in it for the Sixers?

:shrug:

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 06:56 PM
I don't think they'd mind taking Boozer for the right deal, but what's in it for the Sixers?

Bobcats draft pick in 2014.

smith&wesson
02-03-2014, 06:59 PM
Bobcats draft pick in 2014.

There are also a lot of other intriguing options: http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Bulls.htm

woah, I didnt know turner was worth boozer and a first ... seems a bit much.

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 07:02 PM
woah, I didnt know turner was worth boozer and a first ... seems a bit much.

Well it's not that. Chicago would save 16m and have the chance to make a real run at Carmelo. And all that costs them is a draft pick (not even a lottery one at that the way things currently stand)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lskvo3d

sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 07:03 PM
woah, I didnt know turner was worth boozer and a first ... seems a bit much.

Well, Boozer isn't worth anything to the Sixers. Literally nothing but his contract. Him playing for us and producing is worthless for what we're trying to do. So the only helpful value we get back is the 1st.

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 07:05 PM
^not really. We would be doing them a favor by taking Boozer and it looks like Cats will make playoffs so it would be non lotto pick

king4day
02-03-2014, 07:21 PM
Supposedly the Suns have been interested in Turner and Young or Hawes. The Turner rumor was more active when we didn't know how long Bledsoe would be out for. Now that there's a timetable, it's more unlikely though.

king4day
02-03-2014, 07:23 PM
I think he will be traded to clevland in a trade centered around dion waiters.

Not a terrible idea if Philly values Waiters at all.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 07:25 PM
I actually see the Bulls getting the Kings pick next season , they have the potential to have a suns type of season next year . Their roster is heading in the right direction.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 07:27 PM
Not a terrible idea if Philly values Waiters at all.

Waiters wants to go there to be " the man " lol Turner go back to ohio. Idk how many picks the Cavs have thigh I'm certain before the Deng trade though that kings pick was going there.

AddiX
02-03-2014, 07:27 PM
Not a terrible idea if Philly values Waiters at all.

I think it would be a bad move.

You want to build with young players the last thing you want is to bring in a bunch f young guys snd surround them with immature young guys.

Were seeing it in cleveland now, and we saw it for a few years in the wizards. You put these knuckleheads together and no one developes.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 07:33 PM
Bulls don't really need Evan or have to give up a pick , they still can amnesty him and or trade him in the offseason when he becomes an expiring .

Stunner
02-03-2014, 07:35 PM
I honestly don't know where Turner will go , the longer this draws out the easier it will be for other teams to trade for him at the deadline . Philly would just take about anything instead of losing him for nothing seeing he's not in their future anymore .

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 07:42 PM
Supposedly the Suns have been interested in Turner and Young or Hawes. The Turner rumor was more active when we didn't know how long Bledsoe would be out for. Now that there's a timetable, it's more unlikely though.

What are Bledsoe's chances of playing again this season?

Stunner
02-03-2014, 07:49 PM
Reports I read Bledsoe won't be back till late March or playoffs. I think it was stupid of him to have his meniscus removed instead of repaired. I understand he's in a contract year and wants to rush back but long term it's bad , look at Wade who says he regrets having his removed . I'm glad Rose had his repairs and prob might start practicing again mid to late feb seeing he's ahead of schedule .

king4day
02-03-2014, 07:51 PM
What are Bledsoe's chances of playing again this season?

Talk is that he'll return following the All Star Break. No word on when but it sounds like not to long after.

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 07:51 PM
Reports I read Bledsoe won't be back till late March or playoffs. I think it was stupid of him to have his meniscus removed instead of repaired. I understand he's in a contract year and wants to rush back but long term it's bad , look at Wade who says he regrets having his removed . I'm glad Rose had his repairs and prob might start practicing again mid to late feb seeing he's ahead of schedule .

I read that it was only partially removed. Don't know if that's different, but Chris Paul also had the same thing as Wade and he seems fine.

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 07:53 PM
Talk is that he'll return following the All Star Break. No word on when but it sounds like not to long after.

That's a big deal then if he can come back so early. I was thinking he would be out all season.

king4day
02-03-2014, 07:53 PM
Reports I read Bledsoe won't be back till late March or playoffs. I think it was stupid of him to have his meniscus removed instead of repaired. I understand he's in a contract year and wants to rush back but long term it's bad , look at Wade who says he regrets having his removed . I'm glad Rose had his repairs and prob might start practicing again mid to late feb seeing he's ahead of schedule .

From what I've heard via Suns beat writers it was partially shaven off (not entirely). I believe this was because he had hurt it in the past and they just didn't have an option but to do the surgery the way they did.
I agree though, seeing how Wade's knee is becoming a real issue, that's something I'd worry about going forward.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 07:58 PM
Isn't this like Bledsoes 2nd meniscus injury ? He has youth on his side and Paul and Wades game are different so the wear and tear will be different . Bledsoes game prob more Wade than Paul's . I just read the new report on his increases workload and some target post all star break but many are in doubt he'll return to Action this season . They don't want him to have a setback like Westbrook .

Stunner
02-03-2014, 08:00 PM
From what I've heard via Suns beat writers it was partially shaven off (not entirely). I believe this was because he had hurt it in the past and they just didn't have an option but to do the surgery the way they did.
I agree though, seeing how Wade's knee is becoming a real issue, that's something I'd worry about going forward.

Yea I'm curious to see what he'll get money wise with some of these knee problems . Teams will be more careful than before the season started seeing it's the 2nd time .

Stunner
02-03-2014, 08:09 PM
Josh Smith in Philly wouldn't be a bad idea . Turner , Hawes and a future protected 1st for Josh . Then move Thad for a pick and decent role players with last years on their contract . MCW , Smith , Noel and a good high draft pick from this year is a nice future .

PhillyFaninLA
02-03-2014, 08:18 PM
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sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 08:28 PM
Josh Smith in Philly wouldn't be a bad idea . Turner , Hawes and a future protected 1st for Josh . Then move Thad for a pick and decent role players with last years on their contract . MCW , Smith , Noel and a good high draft pick from this year is a nice future .

Seems like a terrible idea for Philly IMO. We want to acquire draft picks for our vets and stay away from players/contracts like Josh Smith for now. This is the exact opposite of a trade that's in the Sixers best interest.

mdm692
02-03-2014, 08:32 PM
Josh Smith in Philly wouldn't be a bad idea . Turner , Hawes and a future protected 1st for Josh . Then move Thad for a pick and decent role players with last years on their contract . MCW , Smith , Noel and a good high draft pick from this year is a nice future .
The Pistons should be the one giving a pick or KCP lol.

Stunner
02-03-2014, 08:37 PM
The Pistons should be the one giving a pick or KCP lol.

That is very true they might actually to get from Smiths contract

NBA_Starter
02-03-2014, 08:49 PM
Please no Bobcats!

Stunner
02-03-2014, 08:56 PM
After looking at this

MCW
Richardson/ James Young
Parker
Josh Smith / Thad
Noel

That's sexy lol would Philly actually have cap room to sign another guard and move Richardson elsewhere if they wanted ? http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2014/

Stunner
02-03-2014, 08:56 PM
Please no Bobcats!
Make the playoffs for me please

sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 09:08 PM
I don't know how to put this in words that will make you understand, but Josh Smith to the Sixers = no way in hell. Unless you literally packaged him with Andre Drummond lol. Or like three 1st round draft picks. It's not happening, it makes literally zero sense, and it's a horrible idea. Sorry man.

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 09:51 PM
I actually see the Bulls getting the Kings pick next season , they have the potential to have a suns type of season next year . Their roster is heading in the right direction.

Hinkie has already said we have no interest in WAiters thankfully


I honestly don't know where Turner will go , the longer this draws out the easier it will be for other teams to trade for him at the deadline . Philly would just take about anything instead of losing him for nothing seeing he's not in their future anymore .

we can keep ET for his QO and be in the same exact position next year problem is we want to lose games this year so the sooner he can be moved the better

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 09:53 PM
I actually see the Bulls getting the Kings pick next season , they have the potential to have a suns type of season next year . Their roster is heading in the right direction.


Josh Smith in Philly wouldn't be a bad idea . Turner , Hawes and a future protected 1st for Josh . Then move Thad for a pick and decent role players with last years on their contract . MCW , Smith , Noel and a good high draft pick from this year is a nice future .

trust me we dont want Smith in our forum he is garbage and his contract is turrbile. dont need that gunner to hinder anyone's development

2-ONE-5
02-03-2014, 09:54 PM
also seeing people put a potential lineup together for us with J Rich is comical. His career is over

MagicBucsSox
02-03-2014, 10:01 PM
Us 76ers fans have been waiting for him to get traded all damn year......

He's only balled out for y'all lol

sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 10:08 PM
He's only balled out for y'all lol

Far from true. He's been very up and down, but his increased usage rate and the team's frantically high pace of play is what has really inflated his stats this year.

He can be a decent player. Does some things well, other things poorly. And he has improved this year to an extent. But he's still far from consistent, and the 18/6/4 stat line he's putting up this year is more circumstantial and misleading than genuinely legitimate.

Edit: I still think there will be a good team out there who's intrigued enough by what he can do and his skill set to give up a first rounder for him in this year's or next year's draft. I also think he'll be able to get a pretty decent pay day from someone in FA this summer. It only takes one team to really like him, and at times he's a really nice player. But as a Sixers fan, I've seen him for 4 years, and that's enough for most of us to know that we want to move on.

jsthornton7
02-03-2014, 10:10 PM
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 19m
Chatter around #NBA lately is #Mavs to explore deal for #Sixers G/F Evan Turner. Name of Mavs' Shawn Marion, out w injury, also mentioned.

sixer04fan
02-03-2014, 10:27 PM
Marion and a pick for Turner? I'll take that

LJEATON26
02-03-2014, 11:39 PM
Marion and a pick for Turner? I'll take that

okc has Dallas 2014 draft pick (top 20 protected). Right now they are 21st so it might have to be the 2015 pick.

FlashBolt
02-03-2014, 11:40 PM
Evan Turner is a stud. Remember, he was lights out earlier in the season.

sixer04fan
02-04-2014, 12:22 AM
okc has Dallas 2014 draft pick (top 20 protected). Right now they are 21st so it might have to be the 2015 pick.

I'm okay with that personally, would be happy if we made that deal. Sixers might try to hold out for more though.

The Sixers are also still at risk of having no picks next year if they happen make the playoffs. We traded a future lottery protected pick to Miami two drafts ago for Arnett Moultrie. The rights to that pick then got shipped to Boston in the recent 3-way trade with Miami-Boston-Golden State. So we do have some extra incentive to acquire at least one 2015 pick in any of these rumored deals.

mrblisterdundee
02-04-2014, 01:07 AM
Philadelphia trades Evan Turner and Jason Richardson to Detroit for Josh Smith.
The Pistons get rid of a player with a horrible contract who doesn't fit with the rest of the lineup. Turner's a talented young (25) small forward who, albeit a lesser defender than Smith, can also distribute well. Richardson's an expiring contract and a scoring punch off the bench.
When Noel comes back, the 76'ers will have the most athletic front court in the NBA, with him at center, Smith at power forward and Young at small forward.
I know the deal seems pretty unfair for the Pistons, but it's not anyone else's fault their general manager screwed up. They'll have to accept less, because teams know Detroit's in a tight situation with too many big men.

bholly
02-04-2014, 01:24 AM
^^If I were to make a list of NBA players I think we're least likely to acquire this season, Josh Smith could be as high as top 10. It's a suggestion that completely ignores everything we know about this Sixers FO and what they're trying to do. It's just not happening.

bholly
02-04-2014, 01:26 AM
okc has Dallas 2014 draft pick (top 20 protected). Right now they are 21st so it might have to be the 2015 pick.

2016. They can't trade their 2014 and 2015. Soonest they can do is 2016 with additional wording that says it has to be at least 2 years after the pick to OKC - so it could get pushed back for years.


Evan Turner is a stud. Remember, he was lights out earlier in the season.

Emphasis on 'was'. Unless GMs are reading this in which case he's a total stud.

sixer04fan
02-04-2014, 01:58 AM
I don't know how to make this any more crystal clear for people. The Sixers are not trading for Josh Smith. Anyone with even the slightest clue about what the Sixers are doing can say that with near 100% certainty.

It can't be explained any further at this point. I wouldn't know know how to. It'd be like trying to explain why gravity exists to a first grader. Just accept it as fact and move on.

FlashBolt
02-04-2014, 03:01 AM
2016. They can't trade their 2014 and 2015. Soonest they can do is 2016 with additional wording that says it has to be at least 2 years after the pick to OKC - so it could get pushed back for years.



Emphasis on 'was'. Unless GMs are reading this in which case he's a total stud.

Was shows potential. There was a 15 game stretch of consistency.

HoopsMachine
02-04-2014, 04:15 AM
Evan Turner for Waiters and CJ Miles looks like a reasonable trade

bholly
02-04-2014, 04:17 AM
I'm not sure 15 games is a length of time where consistency really means anything to his long term. It was a period of hot shooting and uncharacteristic hustle, which we've seen from him many times over his 3.5 years and which always goes away, because he's a fundamentally inefficient player (both in his approach and his talents) and has an awful attitude. Unless he becomes a different player, that's always going to be the case. You can buy into the upswings every time if you want, but they're never going to become the norm.

He's improved in some areas for sure, and there are others where it's conceivable he could improve more, but that 21/7/4 could only ever be anything like the norm for him if he was in a green-light-on-a-bad-team scenario where he puts up great counting stats but can never actually win anything.

bholly
02-04-2014, 04:19 AM
Evan Turner for Waiters and CJ Miles looks like a reasonable trade

First time that all went around the reports were that Hinkie had absolutely no interest in Waiters - which was pretty much what most of us expected. He just isn't the type of player Hinkie champions.

Philly Hammer
02-04-2014, 05:38 AM
Chicago would be a great trade partner if 76ers management wants to absorb Boozer's deal.If we get a young player or pick in return that would be the only reason we would take on that nasty contract.

SeoulBeatz
02-04-2014, 06:44 AM
Philadelphia trades Evan Turner and Jason Richardson to Detroit for Josh Smith.
The Pistons get rid of a player with a horrible contract who doesn't fit with the rest of the lineup. Turner's a talented young (25) small forward who, albeit a lesser defender than Smith, can also distribute well. Richardson's an expiring contract and a scoring punch off the bench.
When Noel comes back, the 76'ers will have the most athletic front court in the NBA, with him at center, Smith at power forward and Young at small forward.
I know the deal seems pretty unfair for the Pistons, but it's not anyone else's fault their general manager screwed up. They'll have to accept less, because teams know Detroit's in a tight situation with too many big men.

geez I would hate that trade (and I'm positive everyone in the Sixers forum would too).

I wouldn't take Smith for free, and that's not an exaggeration. He's no longer a "young" talent, hell he's almost out of his prime as a player who relies solely on athleticism, he is a blackhole on offense who settles for jumpers far too often, he has a poor attitude, he would impede the growth of the Sixers bigs, and that RIDICULOUS contract.

Absolutely no to any trade involving Josh Smith.

joeyc77
02-04-2014, 10:08 AM
No to Josh Smith. The Sixers have no reason to take on players of his ability and contract at the moment.

I love how other teams' fans are in a rush to make the Sixers mediocre again.

black1605
02-04-2014, 11:08 AM
Bobcats reported to have some interest. I don't know how I feel about that.

2-ONE-5
02-04-2014, 11:12 AM
MKG and a first is something most of us are cool with

gatkins11
02-04-2014, 02:10 PM
okc has Dallas 2014 draft pick (top 20 protected). Right now they are 21st so it might have to be the 2015 pick.

Don't hold your breath on getting that Dallas pick this year. Even though I'm a Mavs fan I doubt they make the playoffs.

Slug3
02-04-2014, 02:38 PM
Teams like the sixers need to be banned from the NBA. They never try to compete. As soon as a player even becomes ok they look to trade him so they don't have to pay him.

2-ONE-5
02-04-2014, 04:07 PM
Teams like the sixers need to be banned from the NBA. They never try to compete. As soon as a player even becomes ok they look to trade him so they don't have to pay him.

lol what? we never try to compete but were 2 min from the ECF just two years ago dude and Holiday was paid by the old FO before he was dealt by the new one. get a clue

bholly
02-04-2014, 04:11 PM
Teams like the sixers need to be banned from the NBA. They never try to compete. As soon as a player even becomes ok they look to trade him so they don't have to pay him.

lol, what? The Sixers have been trying to compete and paying big money to second-tier players for the last decade - Brand, Thad, Iggy, Jrue. For much of the last decade we've been in the top 5-10 payrolls in the league. The one year we had cap room we essentially maxed out Brand. We've made the playoffs in 10 of the last 15 seasons and 4 of the last 6. The Sixers have pretty much been the poster child for trying to compete even though they don't have the talent and being stuck in mediocrity as a result.
Now we finally blow it up for one year (after years of not doing it despite it being the right move) - one trade of a young guy for great value, and now letting some guys go who don't fit with the team - and we should be banned from the league? Please.

bholly
02-04-2014, 04:12 PM
lol what? we never try to compete but were 2 min from the ECF just two years ago dude and Holiday was paid by the old FO before he was dealt by the new one. get a clue

i like to think the fact that we both had this exact reaction means it really was that crazy.

2-ONE-5
02-04-2014, 05:13 PM
hah i know right.

COOLbeans
02-04-2014, 06:09 PM
I wonder if the Warriors could move Klay Thompson for him. His relationship with Iggy could benefit both players.

bholly
02-04-2014, 06:15 PM
^In a split second. PHI wouldn't be the one to turn that down.

2-ONE-5
02-04-2014, 06:21 PM
we will glady take Barnes or Clay but no shot GSW would give up Thompson and replace that shooting with ET.

jsthornton7
02-04-2014, 06:31 PM
I wonder if the Warriors could move Klay Thompson for him. His relationship with Iggy could benefit both players.

No way GS would ever do that.

Stunner
02-04-2014, 06:49 PM
I hope the Bulls and Warriors rumors from a few weeks ago pick back up . I think Turner will end up a bobcat for MKG .

Stunner
02-04-2014, 06:50 PM
Why would GS move Klay ?

COOLbeans
02-04-2014, 08:09 PM
Klay is a great streak shooter. And a very good defender. But his ceiling is low and his skill set is a bit redundant with Steph Curry IMO. He also has an average basketball IQ on the offensive end, which is a bit disconcerting considering his size and shooting ability.

Turner would fit better with the Warriors lineup, and my opinion comes froms watching almost every one of Klay Thompson's professional games.

COOLbeans
02-04-2014, 08:12 PM
we will glady take Barnes or Clay but no shot GSW would give up Thompson and replace that shooting with ET.

Barne's ceiling is much higher than Klays, and Turner and Barnes eventually would be our starting wingmen in the backcourt along with Curry. As age catches up to him, Igoudala will be moved to the bench. And Turner provides an element that the Warriors simply don't have.

He's a superior ball handler than Klay, he can pass the ball, and he rebounds reasonably well (much better than Klay).

sixer04fan
02-04-2014, 08:28 PM
Teams like the sixers need to be banned from the NBA. They never try to compete. As soon as a player even becomes ok they look to trade him so they don't have to pay him.

STFU troll. You don't have a clue. We paid or overpaid literally every player that walked through here for years - Lou Will, Jrue, Iggy, Brand, Dalembert, Thad. Traded away valuable assets like Vucevic to get Bynum. The list goes on. All big deals. All got us nowhere but mediocrity. The Sixers have been notoriously one of the most overly loyal franchises to it's players in recent memory in all of sports, and it's done nothing but hurt us.

We finally have a new ownership and GM in place who are showing some financial responsibility. And you make that clueless comment. The Sixers shouldn't be banned from the league. You should be banned from this forum for being an idiot. Everything you said is the complete opposite of what is actually correct dumbass.

LJEATON26
02-04-2014, 08:39 PM
Don't hold your breath on getting that Dallas pick this year. Even though I'm a Mavs fan I doubt they make the playoffs.

I think they can make it. I can see Cuban being a huge buyer come trade deadline and them playing for the 7 or 8 spot. Dirk wheels are getting worn, they have to be in Win now mode.

sep11ie
02-04-2014, 09:01 PM
Houston needs a bench wing player. Any matches there?

bholly
02-04-2014, 09:30 PM
Barne's ceiling is much higher than Klays, and Turner and Barnes eventually would be our starting wingmen in the backcourt along with Curry. As age catches up to him, Igoudala will be moved to the bench. And Turner provides an element that the Warriors simply don't have.

He's a superior ball handler than Klay, he can pass the ball, and he rebounds reasonably well (much better than Klay).

Bad shot choices and a bad attitude?

FWIW when he could be a legitimately great rebounder - he was historically good early in his career when he was working hard to try and prove himself, but he stopped doing that later on. Properly motivate him again and I don't see why he couldn't go back to that. Definitely a plus, if you can drag it out of him.

joeyc77
02-04-2014, 10:36 PM
STFU troll. You don't have a clue. We paid or overpaid literally every player that walked through here for years - Lou Will, Jrue, Iggy, Brand, Dalembert, Thad. Traded away valuable assets like Vucevic to get Bynum. The list goes on. All big deals. All got us nowhere but mediocrity. The Sixers have been notoriously one of the most overly loyal franchises to it's players in recent memory in all of sports, and it's done nothing but hurt us.

We finally have a new ownership and GM in place who are showing some financial responsibility. And you make that clueless comment. The Sixers shouldn't be banned from the league. You should be banned from this forum for being an idiot. Everything you said is the complete opposite of what is actually correct dumbass.

This x 100.

NBA_Starter
02-04-2014, 11:02 PM
If Bobcats give up picks for him I will rage.

COOLbeans
02-05-2014, 12:23 AM
Bad shot choices and a bad attitude?

FWIW when he could be a legitimately great rebounder - he was historically good early in his career when he was working hard to try and prove himself, but he stopped doing that later on. Properly motivate him again and I don't see why he couldn't go back to that. Definitely a plus, if you can drag it out of him.

I actually met dude and he seemed like a primadona. Maybe the dubs don't need that

sixer04fan
02-05-2014, 01:05 AM
I still don't know how I feel about Turner's attitude issues.

He really wants to be the alpha on a team, and thinks he's an alpha player, but in reality he's probably more like a 6th man. Also, most of the time he plays with a lot of heart and cares about winning, and he can be a true bulldog at times. But at the same time he let's things bother him too much, on and off the court, which lingers and can affect him negatively on a play-by-play basis in games. You see it in his body language and inconsistent levels of effort all the time. He wears his emotions on his sleeve a lot. He gets upset too easily.

His attitude can be a positive and a negative. Probably a net negative. He's really bipolar in all honesty.

COOLbeans
02-05-2014, 02:11 AM
[His face makes him look like a little kid with a huge head

PhillyFaninLA
02-11-2014, 08:10 PM
Just read this rumor:

Charlotte is pushing hard for Turner, rumored possible deal....

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ljx548j

The deal would also include the Portland Trailblazers first rounder.....I don't think you'll get a better deal that a late first and an expiring contract for Turner...I think this is a must do by both teams if it really is on the table

PhillyFaninLA
02-11-2014, 08:11 PM
I still don't know how I feel about Turner's attitude issues.

He really wants to be the alpha on a team, and thinks he's an alpha player, but in reality he's probably more like a 6th man. Also, most of the time he plays with a lot of heart and cares about winning, and he can be a true bulldog at times. But at the same time he let's things bother him too much, on and off the court, which lingers and can affect him negatively on a play-by-play basis in games. You see it in his body language and inconsistent levels of effort all the time. He wears his emotions on his sleeve a lot. He gets upset too easily.

His attitude can be a positive and a negative. Probably a net negative. He's really bipolar in all honesty.

He's diagnosed with bipolar, he was in college.....this came about while he was at Ohio State.

sixer04fan
02-11-2014, 08:20 PM
He's diagnosed with bipolar, he was in college.....this came about while he was at Ohio State.

Um no? I was using "bipolar" as a very exaggerated expression. He's not actually diagnosed bipolar.

You mean the hate book that his ex-teammate wrote about him claiming he was "possibly bipolar?" The book that was filled with lies and rumors and was just a blatant attempt to throw Evan under the bus because he was famous so the writer could make a quick buck?

That would be a huge story which would constantly follow him around the NBA. Being bipolar. Do you know how serious of a disease that is?

If you have some proof. I'll happily admit I'm wrong. I think you're mistaken though.

bholly
02-11-2014, 08:22 PM
He's diagnosed with bipolar, he was in college.....this came about while he was at Ohio State.

That's not what happened. Mark Titus wrote in his book that he was an “insecure, socially feebleminded, possibly bipolar, and often callous perfectionist who had all the talent in the world, who lacked self-confidence and the ability to trust in anybody around him”. That's where it came from. A former teammate who didn't get on with him used it as a casual descriptive (ie non-medical) term. There's been absolutely nothing ever confirmed about him actually being bipolar.

bholly
02-11-2014, 08:22 PM
Dammit.

sixer04fan
02-11-2014, 08:24 PM
Haha bholly

PhillyFaninLA
02-11-2014, 08:43 PM
Um no? I was using "bipolar" as a very exaggerated expression. He's not actually diagnosed bipolar.

You mean the hate book that his ex-teammate wrote about him claiming he was "possibly bipolar?" The book that was filled with lies and rumors and was just a blatant attempt to throw Evan under the bus because he was famous so the writer could make a quick buck?

That would be a huge story which would constantly follow him around the NBA. Being bipolar. Do you know how serious of a disease that is?

If you have some proof. I'll happily admit I'm wrong. I think you're mistaken though.


Actually he was officially diagnosed

sixer04fan
02-11-2014, 08:47 PM
Actually he was officially diagnosed

Okay, you said that already. Proof? Source?

PhillyFaninLA
02-11-2014, 08:48 PM
I just looked it up and I was wrong....I thought it was an official diagnosis.

theducksmuggler
02-11-2014, 09:00 PM
^^^ props to the first person to every admit they were wrong on PSD haha

sixer04fan
02-11-2014, 09:05 PM
I just looked it up and I was wrong....I thought it was an official diagnosis.

No worries. Thanks for checking to back it up. Rare sight on this forum.

Anyways, back to the thread topic - I can't wait for Turner to be traded. Somebody please take him. Spurs, Bobcats, anyone.