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Kaner
01-30-2014, 11:50 PM
Just saw this on ESPN and thought Tom Haberstroh made a pretty good argument for it. What do you guys think should the nba include a 4pointer?

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/65669/bring-on-the-4-pointers

blahblahyoutoo
01-30-2014, 11:51 PM
Yes

TheMightyHumph
01-30-2014, 11:54 PM
Yes. Talk about spreading the floor!!!!

NBA_Starter
01-30-2014, 11:55 PM
I would love to see it.

SPURSFAN1
01-30-2014, 11:56 PM
hell no. You cant play defense that far out.

SPURSFAN1
01-30-2014, 11:58 PM
They should get rid of the 3seconds in the paint bull and the 5 second posting up violations.

Supreme LA
01-30-2014, 11:58 PM
The only thing the league should do with the game is raise the rim another foot and lengthen the court.

Nighthawk
01-30-2014, 11:59 PM
Would creat more space on the court

Still a silly idea

SPURSFAN1
01-31-2014, 12:00 AM
The only thing the league should do with the game is raise the rim another foot and lengthen the court.

Way too dramatic.

True Sports Fan
01-31-2014, 12:57 AM
The only thing the league should do with the game is raise the rim another foot and lengthen the court. That'd totally change the game. Don't see any need for that

GunFactor187
01-31-2014, 01:03 AM
Little bit off the topic here but didn't want to make a thread on this so I'll post it in here, was thinking about this the other day just wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on this...since the corner 3 is pretty much the easiest 3 point shot to make since the distance between the rim and the corner is the shortest, what would you guys think if they got rid of the corner three line and just made the three point arch just an arch and ended the line on the sides of the court? Should it be done? Or keep it? Why or why not?

Duncan = Donkey
01-31-2014, 01:16 AM
Why not add a 5 and 6 point line why your at it:rolleyes:

NYYCowboys
01-31-2014, 01:26 AM
Don't think it's a good idea, but if they did make one JR Smith would definitely lead the league in 4 point shots attempted.

stawka
01-31-2014, 01:30 AM
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So no

FlashBolt
01-31-2014, 01:38 AM
So stupid. I can't believe someone even made an argument.

xabial
01-31-2014, 01:39 AM
yes they should. "4 pt specialists" would be something really cool to see.

tmacsc2
01-31-2014, 02:10 AM
Why are people opposed to this?? The guy made very valid points as why this should happen.

Lillard shooting 47% from 28-32 ft! Beast!!

Shammyguy3
01-31-2014, 02:49 AM
I wouldn't HATE the idea, but 28 feet is too close to me. Make it 30 feet and beyond so there's a distinct difference and difficulty for those shots. Also i think the guy's percentages he pulled up for 28-32 feet are skewed because those shots are normally end of the shot clock attempts thrown up there. If you put the line at 28 feet and had players actually set up there, the percentages would be higher than 23%. I'd say, they'd rise up to ~30% overall. Which is why I'd want the line at 30 feet out.

Chrisclover
01-31-2014, 04:46 AM
They should get rid of the 3seconds in the paint bull and the 5 second posting up violations.
This makes sense but totally abandon them ?I doubt whether it could bear much analysis. The time limitation for the post moves has multiple reasons. The first one is to limit the big men. As you can see, if a guy like Wilt or shaq can stay there all day long, the game will be totally turned into single player game, which is not interesting for audience. The basketball game is like a delicate system in which we have 3pt shots, mid range shots, and a host of moves.
from my perspective, i think the league can consider decreasing the time limitations by several seconds, which can appeal players to go inside. The NBA is soft. Big men are no longer a big part of the offense, which makes Howard, Cousins and a handful of guys too outstanding because their counterparts do not have considerable offense .

seikou8
01-31-2014, 05:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0sK65PyVI

MTar786
01-31-2014, 10:52 AM
I would say yes. Between half court and the 3point line. If this happened pre 2000 Kobe would be all time leader in 4pointers made lol. This reminds me of when someone asked Antoine walker why he shoots so many 3's and his reply was because there are no 4 pointers. Lol wat an idiot

MTar786
01-31-2014, 10:53 AM
This would also add value to a lot of the white players like the reddicks etc lol

PurpleLynch
01-31-2014, 11:14 AM
No. Unless you want to create a league that looks like a shooting competition.And bball is really more of that.

Jamiecballer
01-31-2014, 11:22 AM
no, that's ridiculous. but dunks should be worth 4/10ths of a point.

LeGacy is Music
01-31-2014, 11:25 AM
Have you ever been to a Harlem Globe-troters(spelling) game? They have the 4 point shot its fun as in amusement as in for little kids to enjoy. But its not needed it would take away from the game

Goose17
01-31-2014, 11:27 AM
So stupid. I can't believe someone even made an argument.

This^

End of discussion.

bleedprple&gold
01-31-2014, 02:17 PM
The only thing the league should do with the game is raise the rim another foot and lengthen the court.

What would raising the rim do besides **** up everyone's shot? You want to see less dunks and lower shooting percentages? Why don't we have goalies like soccer and allow goaltending while we're at it.

bleedprple&gold
01-31-2014, 02:18 PM
They should get rid of the 3seconds in the paint bull and the 5 second posting up violations.

Our at least change the 3 seconds to 5 seconds. It never gets called in 3 seconds anyway.

blahblahyoutoo
01-31-2014, 03:20 PM
This^

End of discussion.

give a reason.

MonroeFAN
01-31-2014, 03:23 PM
Coincidentally, Josh Smith was looking to expand upon his arsenal.

Jamiecballer
01-31-2014, 03:25 PM
i think it's a terrible idea that would encourage more lazyness on the offensive end.

Jamiecballer
01-31-2014, 03:49 PM
honestly the more i think about this the more i think it's one of the worst suggestions i've ever heard.

he lists "fun" for one of the main reasons for it. chicks dig the long ball he says. perhaps he has not considered how "fun" it would be to watch professionals taking shots all game that they have a 1 in 4 chance of making. man that does sound fun. :rolleyes:

smith&wesson
01-31-2014, 04:03 PM
yes absolutley, palyers have the range for it.

smith&wesson
01-31-2014, 04:05 PM
honestly the more i think about this the more i think it's one of the worst suggestions i've ever heard.

he lists "fun" for one of the main reasons for it. chicks dig the long ball he says. perhaps he has not considered how "fun" it would be to watch professionals taking shots all game that they have a 1 in 4 chance of making. man that does sound fun. :rolleyes:

say for example all the last second shots made from behind the half way mark. those should count for 4 pts. i think that would work.

NoahH
01-31-2014, 04:07 PM
My friend an I have been talking about just practicing the **** out of half-court shots and half-court shots only so we can pull up from half and make it all the time. Ungaurdable. It should still only be 3 points tho.

smith&wesson
01-31-2014, 04:10 PM
My friend an I have been talking about just practicing the **** out of half-court shots and half-court shots only so we can pull up from half and make it all the time. Ungaurdable. It should still only be 3 points tho.

lol ungaurdable, but also the lowest percentage shot you can take. no matter how much you practice and get good at it, its a dumb shot to take. specially if there is no insentive and it still only counts for 3 points.

TheMightyHumph
01-31-2014, 04:16 PM
Little bit off the topic here but didn't want to make a thread on this so I'll post it in here, was thinking about this the other day just wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on this...since the corner 3 is pretty much the easiest 3 point shot to make since the distance between the rim and the corner is the shortest, what would you guys think if they got rid of the corner three line and just made the three point arch just an arch and ended the line on the sides of the court? Should it be done? Or keep it? Why or why not?

I've suggested that idea also

Jamiecballer
01-31-2014, 04:18 PM
I've suggested that idea also

how could it be an arch? wouldn't that make it a square bracket? ]

Jamiecballer
01-31-2014, 04:21 PM
say for example all the last second shots made from behind the half way mark. those should count for 4 pts. i think that would work.

i don't have an issue with adding a 4th point for a shot taken from the other side of the court because it's such a ridiculously low percentage shot, there would be no reason for people to start pulling up for that shot the rest of the time. but i am vigorously opposed to anything that encourages further lazy play.

if i'm watching guys clank these 4 point shots all game i imagine i would just turn the channel instead.

smith&wesson
01-31-2014, 06:19 PM
i don't have an issue with adding a 4th point for a shot taken from the other side of the court because it's such a ridiculously low percentage shot, there would be no reason for people to start pulling up for that shot the rest of the time. but i am vigorously opposed to anything that encourages further lazy play.

if i'm watching guys clank these 4 point shots all game i imagine i would just turn the channel instead.

I agree, I dont think there should be a 4 point line persay, but if you are taking those last second shots at the end of the quarter and it actually goes in then i dont have a problem with it counting for 4 points. i imagine it leading to more over time games.

but yeah, I agree.. we dont need people to start chucking 5 feet behind the 3 point line.

Bruno
01-31-2014, 07:50 PM
i'm not a fan.

lol, please
01-31-2014, 07:55 PM
:facepalm:

Hawkeye15
01-31-2014, 09:41 PM
Personally, I am not interested in seeing it.

asandhu23
02-01-2014, 02:03 PM
Hell no. Steph Curry would have an unfair advantage then.

JLynn943
02-01-2014, 02:23 PM
No thanks. Sounds like more of a gimmick than anything else.

IndyRealist
02-01-2014, 02:46 PM
No, this is stupid.

1. It's not like team don't space the floor now.
2. Players, aside from a few, do not shoot well at long range. "Why pull up (at 28ft) when you can shoot 50% from 24 ft" Who shoots 50% from the 3pt line?!
3. The death of the long 2 is not because it's not exciting. It's because it's a bad shot, and people are finally figuring that out. The long 2 has none of the advantages of a shot at the rim and does not have the added value of the 3pt line. THAT is why the long 2 is disappearing.

ROY 2 MVP Braun
02-01-2014, 02:50 PM
I would say yes. Between half court and the 3point line. If this happened pre 2000 Kobe would be all time leader in 4pointers made lol. This reminds me of when someone asked Antoine walker why he shoots so many 3's and his reply was because there are no 4 pointers. Lol wat an idiot I lold at the end haha

Sssmush
02-01-2014, 03:10 PM
You could have them kick a field goal for the extra point.

Jamiecballer
02-01-2014, 03:32 PM
i'd rather have all made baskets in the final 2 minutes come with a free throw than have a 4 point line. that's how stupid that is IMO.

Kinglorious
02-01-2014, 06:05 PM
I think adding more lines and crap to the court would make it look ugly. If anything maybe a 4 pointer could be a shot made from half court or further. It'd be exceptionally rare, kind of like 4 point plays are, but it could work I guess. I doubt this would ever happen though.

Edit: I see some people have already suggested this.

mightybosstone
02-01-2014, 06:13 PM
I read Haberstroh's article and thought he made some great points, but a 4-point line goes too far. Also, I don't buy Haberstroh's main point that players are bigger and more physical today than they've ever been, and the game is becoming cramped. If anything, the game is more spread out today than it's ever been, mainly because teams' increased reliance on the 3-pointer.

For all the fans and purists out there who complain about how "soft" the NBA is today and about the lack of impact of big man on today's league, this would absolutely make them lose their ****. As someone who actually enjoys watching this brand of basketball, I still don't want to see the NBA big man lose even more relevance in the game than it already has. Also, as hard as it is to defend in the league today, imaging how much harder it would be if the floor was spread out that much more?