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Chrisclover
01-28-2014, 11:17 PM
I just read this. If Dragic get elected an all star, he will be rewarded 1 million by the FO of Suns. This is a clause in his contract.
In all seriousness, I think this kind of incentive really is good and should be a practice by more teams. Man, the Suns were supposed to tank before the season starts but as u can see, in the beginning of the season ,they made a run and they are now 7th !

sunsfan88
01-28-2014, 11:41 PM
He deserves to make the AS game if Kobe, CP3 & Westbrook all sit it out like their projected to.

Even if one of them plays, he should still make it.

DreamShaker
01-28-2014, 11:41 PM
Shoulda signed that contract in the East!

DreamShaker
01-28-2014, 11:44 PM
He deserves to make the AS game if Kobe, CP3 & Westbrook all sit it out like their projected to.

Even if one of them plays, he should still make it.

CP3 said he wants to play. Harden and Tony Parker will make it over him. Who else does he have to beat out?

Bishnoff
01-28-2014, 11:52 PM
Even though Dragic has had an excellent season so far, I don't think he'll make the West reserves list as there are too many quality guards ahead of him in the West.

NBA_Starter
01-28-2014, 11:59 PM
I can't see him making it this year.

bholly
01-29-2014, 12:05 AM
I just read this. If Dragic get elected an all star, he will be rewarded 1 million by the FO of Suns. This is a clause in his contract.
In all seriousness, I think this kind of incentive really is good and should be a practice by more teams. Man, the Suns were supposed to tank before the season starts but as u can see, in the beginning of the season ,they made a run and they are now 7th !

Performance incentives are very common, they just aren't really reported on.

Chrisclover
01-29-2014, 12:06 AM
Even though Dragic has had an excellent season so far, I don't think he'll make the West reserves list as there are too many quality guards ahead of him in the West.
So this is the wisdom of Suns. Give him a empty dream to pursuit, haha

zn23
01-29-2014, 12:08 AM
CP3 said he wants to play. Harden and Tony Parker will make it over him. Who else does he have to beat out?

They'll make it as reserves, Dragic can still replace Kobe CP3 and Westbrook.

Bishnoff
01-29-2014, 12:29 AM
So this is the wisdom of Suns. Give him a empty dream to pursuit, haha

Hey, it's working isn't it? :p

Honestly, I can't really see Dragic improving much going forward. I'd like to see him get his 3P% back up again, but other than that I think he's peaked. There's no reason why he can't maintain this level of play however.

bholly
01-29-2014, 12:34 AM
CP3 said he wants to play. Harden and Tony Parker will make it over him. Who else does he have to beat out?

Still a chance of Kobe and/or CP3 playing. After that, Harden, Lillard, and Parker are the main ones. Even if both Kobe and CP3 are both out that's 4 guards, so he'd have to either beat one of them out or beat out front-court guys for a wildcard spot - Howard and Aldridge will make it, and it's sort of hard to see Davis or Cousins not make it, so he'd probably be in competition with ZBo, Ibaka, Duncan, Nowitzki, Lee, and maybe even Pek for the last wildcard spot. Guys like Lawson or Conley could even sneak ahead as guards.
So he could make it, but it's a lot of competition still. With either CP3 or Kobe playing it becomes really tough, and if by some miracle both played it'd be pretty much over for him.

P&GRealist
01-29-2014, 12:37 AM
He's not going to make the All-Star team.

Chrisclover
01-29-2014, 12:54 AM
He's not going to make the All-Star team.
If he were in the east, he really would have shot.

TheBatchelor213
01-29-2014, 03:10 AM
Really happy for him. He deserves to make it

WES KOAST
01-29-2014, 03:35 AM
He's not going to make the All-Star team.

if conley wont make the ASG, then dragic def wont make it

Sadds The Gr8
01-29-2014, 03:36 AM
CP3 said he wants to play. Harden and Tony Parker will make it over him. Who else does he have to beat out?

Lillard. Dragic likely won't make it which sucks for him cuz he's been great

rocky4104
01-29-2014, 04:04 AM
as a Suns fan of course I want him to make it, but chances are he won't. too many quality guards in the west....

Chrisclover
01-29-2014, 05:22 AM
CP3 said he wants to play. Harden and Tony Parker will make it over him. Who else does he have to beat out?

Lillard. Dragic likely won't make it which sucks for him cuz he's been great
Nice new avatar, buddy !

Duncan = Donkey
01-29-2014, 06:19 AM
if conley wont make the ASG, then dragic def wont make it

Dragic is having a better year than Conley though.

Duncan = Donkey
01-29-2014, 06:19 AM
Doubt he makes it though.

numba1CHANGsta
01-29-2014, 07:00 AM
If he were a center, he would get in

blahblahyoutoo
01-29-2014, 04:55 PM
So this is the wisdom of Suns. Give him a empty dream to pursuit, haha

pursue.
pursuit is a noun.

Bishnoff
01-29-2014, 07:00 PM
If he were a center, he would get in

Nah, 3.4 RPG and 0.2 BPG are pretty poor numbers for a centre :p

bholly
01-29-2014, 07:16 PM
FWIW, this would also increase his cap figure by $1m both this year and next year. This year because it's considered an unlikely incentive (because he didn't make it last year), and thus it doesn't already count towards his figure and would have to be added. Then next year it would be considered likely (because he made it this year), so then it would count towards his salary figure right from the start of the season.

Not sure it makes a huge difference, because they have a tonne of cap room and it's unlikely anyway, but worth being aware of.

Chrisclover
01-29-2014, 10:07 PM
FWIW, this would also increase his cap figure by $1m both this year and next year. This year because it's considered an unlikely incentive (because he didn't make it last year), and thus it doesn't already count towards his figure and would have to be added. Then next year it would be considered likely (because he made it this year), so then it would count towards his salary figure right from the start of the season.

Not sure it makes a huge difference, because they have a tonne of cap room and it's unlikely anyway, but worth being aware of.
Sorry i dont quite get what you meant

Raps18-19 Champ
01-29-2014, 10:16 PM
I just read this. If Dragic get elected an all star, he will be rewarded 1 million by the FO of Suns. This is a clause in his contract.
In all seriousness, I think this kind of incentive really is good and should be a practice by more teams. Man, the Suns were supposed to tank before the season starts but as u can see, in the beginning of the season ,they made a run and they are now 7th !

Teams would probably take it. It's the players that probably don't. They want guaranteed/easier clauses.

bucketss
01-29-2014, 11:05 PM
Dragic is having a better year than Conley though.

u still think hes better than lowry?

bholly
01-29-2014, 11:14 PM
Sorry i dont quite get what you meant

'Unlikely' incentives (ie ones where you didn't accomplish them the last year) don't count towards your salary figure until you accomplish them. So for Dragic, his stated salary figure right now is $7.5m, and if he gets into the All Star game this would increase to $8.5m - so Phoenix's cap figure goes up if he gets the bonus, and they thus would have less cap room.
This is in contrast to other incentives (ie things you accomplished the previous year), which count towards your cap figure right from the start. So my point was that Dragic's salary figure is $7.5m PLUS the $1m extra if he makes it (as opposed to the other possibility, which is that the $1m was included in his cap figure of $7.5m all along).
Does that make sense?

Duncan = Donkey
01-29-2014, 11:25 PM
u still think hes better than lowry?

Yes, Y?

Duncan = Donkey
01-29-2014, 11:44 PM
u still think hes better than lowry?

Is it because of Lowrys game tonight? Because I just seen Dragic drop 30pts and 6 assists in 23 minutes. 9/13 from the field and 4/5 from downtown. Imagine if he played the minutes Lowry did tonight.:cheers:

Chrisclover
01-29-2014, 11:53 PM
Sorry i dont quite get what you meant

'Unlikely' incentives (ie ones where you didn't accomplish them the last year) don't count towards your salary figure until you accomplish them. So for Dragic, his stated salary figure right now is $7.5m, and if he gets into the All Star game this would increase to $8.5m - so Phoenix's cap figure goes up if he gets the bonus, and they thus would have less cap room.
This is in contrast to other incentives (ie things you accomplished the previous year), which count towards your cap figure right from the start. So my point was that Dragic's salary figure is $7.5m PLUS the $1m extra if he makes it (as opposed to the other possibility, which is that the $1m was included in his cap figure of $7.5m all along).
Does that make sense?
I think i understand it now. If he is an all star this year, the clause will be triggered and he gets 1 mil. And for the next season, his salary also gets increased by 1 million before the season starts.
according to your last but one post, So being an all star for ONCE can get 2 million ?seems tricky. What if he is all star this year but not next year ?

bholly
01-30-2014, 12:32 AM
^Almost there. If he's an All Star this year he gets the extra $1m, so his salary and cap hit increase to $8.5m and Phoenix's cap total increases accordingly.
Next year, it would be considered a 'likely' incentive (because the determining factor is whether or not you achieved it the previous year), so then his cap hit right from the start of the season would be the full $8.5m. That doesn't mean he gets the full $8.5m next year, though - he'd still have to make the All Star game next year to get the extra million again, it's just his cap hit that automatically includes it if he made it the previous year.

So if he makes it this year he gets paid an extra $1m this year, and in addition to that his cap hit goes up to $8.5m both this year and next year - so this offseason they'd have $1m less in cap room.

The one thing I don't know is what happens in a season where it's 'likely' (ie you made it the last year), but then you miss out - I don't know if your cap hit immediately drops to $7.5m when you miss out, or if the extra million just stays there till the end of the season because it was considered likely.

Duncan = Donkey
01-30-2014, 12:34 AM
Im fine with that. At 8.5 mill a year, that is still a great deal for the Suns.

I wonder how many players have that in their contracts

bholly
01-30-2014, 12:47 AM
^The salaries page on storytellerscontracts.com has 19 different guys with unlikely incentives, but they don't have Dragic as one of them so obviously there are guys they've missed. Some of them it's only a few hundred thousand, some are $2m or above, but it doesn't say what any of them are for (they can be for many things, not just the All Star game).
I'd imagine making the ASG is a common one, though.

HeatBeat
01-30-2014, 04:54 AM
He should be an all star, he is leading the Suns to the playoffs in the brutal West, currently the 6 seed. A team most had as number 1 pick contenders. Averaging 20 and 6, shooting 50% from the floor and has the highest PER among SG's in the league. But his not a house hold name so he wont get in. Stupid voters.

dalton749
01-30-2014, 07:54 AM
i hope kobe chooses not to play even if hes healthy

Tony_Starks
01-30-2014, 12:55 PM
Incentive contracts, gotta love em! He did his thing this season though, actually last season too....

zn23
01-30-2014, 03:01 PM
Dragic has had a better year than Parker and he's had to work with less and surrounded by worse players I hope gets in over Parker.

Bishnoff
01-30-2014, 06:53 PM
He should be an all star, he is leading the Suns to the playoffs in the brutal West, currently the 6 seed. A team most had as number 1 pick contenders. Averaging 20 and 6, shooting 50% from the floor and has the highest PER among SG's in the league. But his not a house hold name so he wont get in. Stupid voters.

I hadn't noticed that he was leading all SGs. Good find.