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Stunner
01-23-2014, 08:16 PM
Kyrie
Wade
PG
Melo
Bron

BirdIsTheWord
01-23-2014, 08:20 PM
LeBron at point-center.

sammyvine
01-23-2014, 08:21 PM
What a joke....the west i can deal with but no way Carmelo Anthony and Irving should be starters. They have been average at best and their teams have awful records.

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 08:25 PM
Irving is awful. But I understand why he is picked. D isn't needed to be played so he would be a good fit to play in the AS game.

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 08:29 PM
What a joke....the west i can deal with but no way Carmelo Anthony and Irving should be starters. They have been average at best and their teams have awful records.

Melo avg 28 & 9. Who should replace him in the east?

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 08:31 PM
Irving is awful. But I understand why he is picked. D isn't needed to be played so he would be a good fit to play in the AS game.

What other guard in the east is over him?

sammyvine
01-23-2014, 08:31 PM
Melo avg 28 & 9. Who should replace him in the east?

Hibbert

sammyvine
01-23-2014, 08:32 PM
What other guard in the east is over him?

John Wall

Stunner
01-23-2014, 08:35 PM
What other guard in the east is over him?

John Wall

xxplayerxx23
01-23-2014, 08:35 PM
Hibbert

Hibbert yeah right lmao

xxplayerxx23
01-23-2014, 08:35 PM
John Wall

This times 1000

Stunner
01-23-2014, 08:36 PM
What a joke....the west i can deal with but no way Carmelo Anthony and Irving should be starters. They have been average at best and their teams have awful records.

The East is terrible in general , players with not so good records will get in . I rather do that than give a player having an average season be an all star just for being on a good team record wise .

archdevil84
01-23-2014, 08:39 PM
JR smith should be the starting guard for the east 100%!!!!!

Rndy
01-23-2014, 08:40 PM
I hate how they don't really do positions anymore Noah or Hibbert deserve to be starting at Center I'll be pretty pissed if Noah doesn't make it he's been playing amazing.

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 08:42 PM
The East is pretty bad. A lot of losing teams will have players on there, which I don't have a problem with, BUT not Kyrie Irving. Jeff Teague, Derozan, Wall just to name a few would be a better pick. Irving is good, LAST YEAR. This year hes been just ok on one end of the floor.

Stunner
01-23-2014, 08:43 PM
Noah has been amazing

sammyvine
01-23-2014, 08:44 PM
The East is pretty bad. A lot of losing teams will have players on there, which I don't have a problem with, BUT not Kyrie Irving. Jeff Teague, Derozan, Wall just to name a few would be a better pick. Irving is good, LAST YEAR. This year hes been just ok on one end of the floor.

He such an overrated player.....even more overrated than Kevin Love, Blake Griffin etc....at least the last two excel at certain things

Irving doesn't play defence, and just plays hero ball most of the time. Its a travesty that he's starting.

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 08:44 PM
He such an overrated player.....even more overrated than Kevin Love, Blake Griffin etc....at least the last two excel at certain things

Irving doesn't play defence, and just plays hero ball most of the time. Its a travesty that he's starting.

He can shoot. Thats why I gave him an "ok" on offense.

Rndy
01-23-2014, 08:52 PM
Noah has been amazing

Averaging 11-11-4 with a 20 ast% 19 trb% 3 blk % 2 stl% 19 per actually having a down year scoring and with efficiency but he's been on such a tear the last month I expect that to go back to around his average. Defensively what he does for one of the best defenses in the League is down right impressive he switches onto everyone with no problems, the amount of ground he covers both on the perimeter and in the post

I felt he deserved DPOY last year now that Howard is back he might never get another chance to win it. All due respect to Gasol In my opinion Noah was a better all around defender. Granted I have homer glasses so maybe other people around here may disagree with that.

P&GRealist
01-23-2014, 08:52 PM
If Kobe is not gonna play, I think Mr. every 3-4 games Wade shouldn't play either.

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 08:54 PM
John Wall
Fair enough. But wall should start over Wade then too

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 08:55 PM
Averaging 11-11-4 with a 20 ast% 19 trb% 3 blk % 2 stl% 19 per actually having a down year scoring and with efficiency but he's been on such a tear the last month I expect that to go back to around his average. Defensively what he does for one of the best defenses in the League is down right impressive he switches onto everyone with no problems, the amount of ground he covers both on the perimeter and in the post I felt he deserved DPOY last year now that Howard is back he might never get another chance to win it. All due respect to Gasol In my opinion Noah was a better all around defender.

Than Drummond should start over him

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 08:56 PM
Wade probably won't play. He should get replaced by a C. Since Pacers HC is the coach, it will probably be Hibbert.

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 08:56 PM
Than Drummond should start over him

Why? Pistons don't deserve an AS.

Stunner
01-23-2014, 08:57 PM
Fair enough. But wall should start over Wade then too

He's the best SG in the East and deserves to start way more than Irving

TrueFan420
01-23-2014, 08:58 PM
I don't like this new look. 1 pg 1 sg 3 sf

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 08:59 PM
Why? Pistons don't deserve an AS.

Ok but kyrie is starting and Detroit is 2games better and Drummond has slightly better numbers than Noah, that's why.

They have to decide if they're voting for stats......or team record

Rndy
01-23-2014, 08:59 PM
Than Drummond should start over him

You can make that argument he's been really good offensively and has made strides defensively as well something that probably doesn't get talked about as much as it should if he played in a winning environment ESPN would be kissing his ***.

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 09:04 PM
He's the best SG in the East and deserves to start way more than Irving

But he plays once a week. He's like a starting pitcher.

Stunner
01-23-2014, 09:07 PM
But he plays once a week. He's like a starting pitcher.

Dude he's having an all star year regardless

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 09:10 PM
Dude he's having an all star year regardless

18 4&4 lmaoooo please. Aaron Affalo n Derozan are having better years

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 09:14 PM
Hell lance Stephenson is having a better year than wade

Stunner
01-23-2014, 09:15 PM
18 4&4 lmaoooo please. Aaron Affalo n Derozan are having better years

On 50% shooting and yes DD and AA should make the team

Knick_Fever
01-23-2014, 09:18 PM
What other guard in the east is over him?

Thats easy- John Wall. He is better than Irving in most categories, especially in the one that matters most at the position- assists, and are neck and neck at ppg. Oh yeah and Wall has also guided his team to a .500 record. Yet Irving got almost half a million more all-star votes than Wall, lol. Irving is the most overrated player in the league.

MagicBucsSox
01-23-2014, 09:19 PM
Thats easy- John Wall. He is better than Irving in most categories, especially in the one that matters most at the position- assists, and are neck and neck at ppg. Oh yeah and Wall has also guided his team to a .500 record. Yet Irving got almost half a million more all-star votes than Wall, lol. Irving is the most overrated player in the league.

Wall has better players to pass the ball two though, not true?

Stunner
01-23-2014, 09:25 PM
Wall has always been a better passer than Irving , Wall has played with less tallest on his team similar to Irving's and averaged about 8 assist .

IversonIsKrazy
01-23-2014, 09:28 PM
Wall/Irving should be the backcourt Guards. Not Wade. DDR deserves it more than Wade too

tredigs
01-23-2014, 09:44 PM
The East is pretty bad. A lot of losing teams will have players on there, which I don't have a problem with, BUT not Kyrie Irving. Jeff Teague, Derozan, Wall just to name a few would be a better pick. Irving is good, LAST YEAR. This year hes been just ok on one end of the floor.

Teague has sucked. Don't be ridiculous. Irving has regressed though. Definitely not impressed with him (in what should be a breakout year).

Demar? I guess. About equal value there this season, but Kyrie's the more naturally gifted and has been better his first two years.

Wall? Meh. He still can't shoot but he's been slightly improved this year. Probably a bit better than Kyrie.

None are really what I'd call snubs, though. East guards like the East in general just kind of suck.

Knick_Fever
01-23-2014, 09:47 PM
Wall has better players to pass the ball two though, not true?

Bradley Beal and Trevor Ariza for sure, but it has more to do with Wall being the better playmaker. Yes the Wall has more to play with, but I've watched both of them enough to know that Irving's floor vision is extremely suspect, while Wall's is exceptional.

FriedTofuz
01-23-2014, 10:04 PM
John wall is the only PG who should start. Irving doesnt deserve it at all. Fans are stupid.

FriedTofuz
01-23-2014, 10:10 PM
Irving is the most overrated player in the nba, hands down. Cant play like a pg, and just puts up numbers on a bad team. John wall is actually a pg, puts up 20/9 and plays defense, and his team has a .500 record. Fans are just mesmorized by some big shots by irving, they're clueless, A lot of fans dont even know and understand the game, it really pissesm e off.

tredigs
01-23-2014, 10:19 PM
Must have been the most overrated player by all NBA talent scouts and front offices as well ay? Not to mention the National panel of sportswriters after his rookie year. That's a large contingent.

zn23
01-23-2014, 10:50 PM
Kyle Lowry has had a better year than Kyrie Irving...

Irving is overrated, but the problem is that the East is thin when it comes to PG's.

There's basically Lowry, Wall and Irving. That's it. I expect that to be the PG's on the eastern team.

Stunner
01-23-2014, 10:59 PM
MCW has been the 4th best pg in the East

blahblahyoutoo
01-23-2014, 11:06 PM
Irving is the most overrated player in the nba, hands down. Cant play like a pg, and just puts up numbers on a bad team. John wall is actually a pg, puts up 20/9 and plays defense, and his team has a .500 record. Fans are just mesmorized by some big shots by irving, they're clueless, A lot of fans dont even know and understand the game, it really pissesm e off.

i bet a lot of it has to do with uncle drew.

DR_1
01-23-2014, 11:32 PM
Wade and Kyrie? Lol

beasted86
01-23-2014, 11:43 PM
Hating on Wade? I love it. Let that hate soak in and ferment until it poisons you. Let it turn into a seething rage that boils your blood. Go film 10 minute video rants about your dislike about the HEAT and Wade. Dedicate full page blogs about how he sucks and is injured.

I thrive off of those types of things.

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 11:52 PM
I can understand why people voted Irving. Its those Pepsi commercials. I would be more interested to see if the coaches vote him in. He plays like a grandpa on defense and is a ball hog. Hes actually good at scoring though.

John Walls Era
01-23-2014, 11:53 PM
Ok but kyrie is starting and Detroit is 2games better and Drummond has slightly better numbers than Noah, that's why.

They have to decide if they're voting for stats......or team record

coaches select reserves. ******** fans selected Irving.

naps
01-24-2014, 12:03 AM
Irving over Wall this year? That's laughable. Irving is supremely overrated.

Rndy
01-24-2014, 12:23 AM
Hating on Wade? I love it. Let that hate soak in and ferment until it poisons you. Let it turn into a seething rage that boils your blood. Go film 10 minute video rants about your dislike about the HEAT and Wade. Dedicate full page blogs about how he sucks and is injured.

I thrive off of those types of things.

I wrote a letter about it want to read it?

Dear Wade,

You suck screw you, your good defense, and efficient scoring you're a bad player. Who cares if you can pass if you couldn't score efficiently, pass, play defense, and weren't from Chicago you'd be a bad player.

Signed Rndy

Deception
01-24-2014, 12:32 AM
Hating on Wade? I love it. Let that hate soak in and ferment until it poisons you. Let it turn into a seething rage that boils your blood. Go film 10 minute video rants about your dislike about the HEAT and Wade. Dedicate full page blogs about how he sucks and is injured.

I thrive off of those types of things.

Because people are posting their opinions on how there are better guards who deserve his spot as an All Star. Please do tell us how you think Wade is more deserving than someone like Derozan or Afflalo.

mrblisterdundee
01-24-2014, 12:35 AM
With how the Knicks and Pacers are doing, I'd like to bench Carmelo Anthony and replace him with Roy Hibbert, a likely DPOY.

Stunner
01-24-2014, 12:49 AM
I don't think people have a problem with Wade and Irving being on the team , just not them starting .


East starting 5 should be

Wall
PG
Bron
Melo
Hibbert

MonroeFAN
01-24-2014, 11:06 AM
I am so sick of hearing about Kyrie Irving.

archdevil84
01-24-2014, 12:09 PM
Dwade is a boss. he has to share the ball with bron bron

archdevil84
01-24-2014, 12:19 PM
Demar rozen 21.8 / 4.6 / 3.7 on 42.8% (29.6% from three). 2.2 TO 1.2 st 0.5 block
Dwade 18.9 / 4.8 / 4.7 on 54.0% (42.1% from three). 2.9 TO 1.8 st 0.6 block
Arron Afflalo 20.2 / 4.5 / 3.8 on 46.5% (42.3% from three). 2.2 TO 0.6 st 0.0 block
John wall 20.2 / 4.3 / 8.5 on 42.5% (31.8% from three). 3.6 TO 1.9 st 0.4 block
Kyrie Irving 21.7 / 3.0 / 6.1 on 43.0% (37.3 from three). 2.7 TO 1.2 st 0.4 block
Wade shares the ball a lot with lebron while wall and irving are primary ballhandlers.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-24-2014, 12:58 PM
Where the F is Paul George?

this is straight garbage

Vee-Rex
01-24-2014, 01:34 PM
Exactly how is Wall playing so much better than Kyrie?

John wall 20.2 / 4.3 / 8.5 on 42.5% (31.8% from three). 3.6 TO 1.9 st 0.4 block
Kyrie Irving 21.7 / 3.0 / 6.1 on 43.0% (37.3 from three). 2.7 TO 1.2 st 0.4 block

Take a look at their advanced stats, John Wall's PER: 20.1
Kyrie Irving's PER: 20.0

Kyrie has had an off year so far and John Wall has had his best, yet Kyrie still nearly matches him. He is a better shooter and more efficient scorer overall, ball handler, finisher, clutch player, just not a better passer. John Wall has better defense.

Skill-wise Kyrie is better as he is capable of scoring in a much bigger variety of ways.

It's really close between the two, and only because of assists and defense (despite playing more minutes and averaging more turnovers) I'd say Wall has had a slightly better year.

Kyrie's fame is higher so of course the fans will vote him in. That's a no-brainer, this is 2014.

2-ONE-5
01-24-2014, 01:35 PM
What a joke....the west i can deal with but no way Carmelo Anthony and Irving should be starters. They have been average at best and their teams have awful records.

this. such a shame most of the east is tanking. with these 2 starting i can easily make a case for Turner or MCW to be a reserve

Vee-Rex
01-24-2014, 02:00 PM
Kyle Lowry has had a better year than Kyrie Irving? Kyrie and Carmelo have been average at best?

You people are delusional with these wild claims.

John Walls Era
01-24-2014, 02:26 PM
Exactly how is Wall playing so much better than Kyrie?

John wall 20.2 / 4.3 / 8.5 on 42.5% (31.8% from three). 3.6 TO 1.9 st 0.4 block
Kyrie Irving 21.7 / 3.0 / 6.1 on 43.0% (37.3 from three). 2.7 TO 1.2 st 0.4 block

Take a look at their advanced stats, John Wall's PER: 20.1
Kyrie Irving's PER: 20.0

Kyrie has had an off year so far and John Wall has had his best, yet Kyrie still nearly matches him. He is a better shooter and more efficient scorer overall, ball handler, finisher, clutch player, just not a better passer. John Wall has better defense.

Skill-wise Kyrie is better as he is capable of scoring in a much bigger variety of ways.

It's really close between the two, and only because of assists and defense (despite playing more minutes and averaging more turnovers) I'd say Wall has had a slightly better year.

Kyrie's fame is higher so of course the fans will vote him in. That's a no-brainer, this is 2014.

Hes only a better shooter. Thats it.

Real clutch player though, I think hes proven that given how successful the Cavs have been.

Vee-Rex
01-24-2014, 03:44 PM
Hes only a better shooter. Thats it.

Real clutch player though, I think hes proven that given how successful the Cavs have been.

He's not just a better shooter but a better scorer. He is shooting a better % this year. He his 3-point range, mid-range, strong finisher at the rim, fadeaway, floaters, etc..., there is no way Kyrie CAN'T score. Is he overrated right now? I'd say so, but offensively I don't think John Wall has nearly the skill that Kyrie does despite being able to put up nearly as many points per game.

The Cavs success has nothing to do with Kyrie's clutch and everything to do with them just being a bad team. From the GM to the coach, they've failed miserably. The Anthony Bennett pick is one of the worst ever.

So while Wall does deserve that spot IMO, he has barely had a better year than Kyrie considering the turnovers, minutes, and being inferior with the shooting percentage.

Rockice_8
01-24-2014, 05:27 PM
I hope Joe Johnson gets some recognition. He started off slow but has been just killing it the past month.

If Jeff Teague makes the all star team that will be an absolute joke. Bench guards should be Wall, Stevenson, Derozan and Johnson. Forwards should be Millsap, Hibbert, Noah and Drummond.

What is the roster 12?

2-ONE-5
01-24-2014, 06:18 PM
nets are a joke they dont deserve all stars. having a good month doesnt make JJ all star worthy he still only puts up 16/2/3 come on now. you dont see me saying Turner and MCW deserve nods

72 Wins
01-24-2014, 06:53 PM
This is why fan voting sucks. I personally feel that Wall gets kinda lost being in DC. The entire "Uncle Drew" thing has also helped Kyrie with fan popularity IMO.

Arch Stanton
01-24-2014, 11:32 PM
Wall is obviously having a better year than KI. But it's a fan vote, and fans are voting "Uncle Drew" not Kyrie. Kyrie still has a lot of talent and is only 21. Would like to see him become an average defender and less one dimensional but that may have something to do with the Cavs development team. I hope Wall still gets a spot, certainly deserves it.

DR_1
01-26-2014, 05:28 PM
I don't think people have a problem with Wade and Irving being on the team , just not them starting .


East starting 5 should be

Wall
PG
Bron
Melo
Hibbert

Exactly.