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kdspurman
01-20-2014, 02:20 PM
Monday January 20th, 2014



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Location: Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland
Time: 1:00 PM ET



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Location: Palace of Auburn Hills in Detroit
Time: 1:00 PM ET



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Location: The Time Warner Cable Arena in Charlotte
Time: 2:00 PM ET



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Location: Verizon Center in Washington DC
Time: 2:00 PM ET



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Location: Madison Square Garden in NYC
Time: 2:30 PM ET
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Location: FedEx Forum in Memphis
Time: 5:00 PM ET
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Location: Philips Arena in Atlanta
Time: 5:30 PM ET



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Location: United Center in Chicago
Time: 8:00 PM ET



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Location: Toyota Center in Houston
Time: 8:00 PM ET
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Location: Oracle Arena in Oakland
Time: 10:030 PM ET
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LionsFan..LOL
01-20-2014, 02:28 PM
If you like dunks then Clippers Vs. Pistons is for you.

Clippersfan86
01-20-2014, 03:03 PM
15 dunks already (literally 15!) between Pistons and Clips, not even halftime

Clippersfan86
01-20-2014, 03:04 PM
Smith and Griffin back to back dunks. 17 now! Jesus.

Clippersfan86
01-20-2014, 03:14 PM
I don't get why it took Blake 4 years to learn that with his freak athleticism he could get to the line at will. Face up, attack. 21 at halftime.

RipCity32
01-20-2014, 03:17 PM
I just hate that you can't even contest a shot anymore in the league. It's like a automatic foul everytime, It's really getting annoying.

black1605
01-20-2014, 03:39 PM
Bobcats rolling the Raptors early. Big Al had a double double in the first quarter. Toronto looks flat.

Clippersfan86
01-20-2014, 03:52 PM
Wow that last DJ lob....

Goose17
01-20-2014, 04:02 PM
Cavs v Mavs has been fun. Cavs trying to make a run.

RipCity32
01-20-2014, 04:15 PM
Wow that last DJ lob....

Yeah Deandre is a beast, Hes a monster around the basket.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-20-2014, 04:28 PM
Knicks having hard time to score 30 before halftime

VinceCarter
01-20-2014, 04:32 PM
The Nets are starting to look like a team.

tredigs
01-20-2014, 04:32 PM
Well, Tyson and Hardaway have played a combined 25 minutes and haven't taken a shot yet. Something might be wrong with the offense.

Clippersfan86
01-20-2014, 04:54 PM
GG Pistons fans, love your young team. Proud of DJ for crushing my boy Drummond though with 16/21/4. I admit I expected the opposite. Pistons held to 30 rebounds, DJ had more offensive boards than entire Pistons team.

RipCity32
01-20-2014, 05:00 PM
GG Pistons fans, love your young team. Proud of DJ for crushing my boy Drummond though with 16/21/4. I admit I expected the opposite. Pistons held to 30 rebounds, DJ had more offensive boards than entire Pistons team.

Jordan was a monster today. We need to get rid of our defensive liabilities like Monroe and Jennings. Drummond made the mistake to often of coming off Deandre to try and play a little bid of helpside which results in a easy lob for Jordan.

Goose17
01-20-2014, 05:13 PM
Expected Drummond to make everyone on the Clippers roster look weak.

J4KOP99
01-20-2014, 05:15 PM
Felton is awful

leprechaun5
01-20-2014, 05:32 PM
Bargnani is ******** .

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-20-2014, 05:53 PM
lol Knicks are not making the playoffs

leprechaun5
01-20-2014, 05:54 PM
Even Chandler isn't the same anymore ,i wonder what dolan is thinking about that lowry trade now

waveycrockett
01-20-2014, 06:00 PM
Nets beasting on these Knicks. Our guys are on another level than they were 1 month ago. Jason Kidd has turned it around.

tredigs
01-20-2014, 06:28 PM
Are they actually letting Kidd coach now? Last I saw he literally had 0 control of the team, including calling timeouts and speaking to his players during them.

tredigs
01-20-2014, 06:30 PM
It's pretty ****ing sad that we're approaching the ASB and the 3 seed in the East is still barely hovering over .500. They wouldn't even be a playoff team in the West. That annoys me.

waveycrockett
01-20-2014, 06:48 PM
Are they actually letting Kidd coach now? Last I saw he literally had 0 control of the team, including calling timeouts and speaking to his players during them.

Yeah I think initially the Lawrence Frank thing was a big distraction to the team and to Kidd but honestly the ball movement recently has been like nothing we've seen alot of it was just building chemistry and getting everyone healthy. It's no surprise this streak has coincided with the return of AK-47 who is a huge boost to our 2nd unit and defense. Much improved in both sides of the ball.

waveycrockett
01-20-2014, 06:51 PM
The major difference between him and Avery Johnson last season was that it was clear the team quit on Avery and Avery had quit on the team. Kidd still had the support of the entire locker room thru it all.

shep33
01-20-2014, 06:54 PM
New York has a strange team. They look fantastic coming out of that Texas trip and then they beat Miami. Now they're just back to their losing ways.

Make some deals already.

waveycrockett
01-20-2014, 07:00 PM
New York has a strange team. They look fantastic coming out of that Texas trip and then they beat Miami. Now they're just back to their losing ways.

Make some deals already.

They got no veteran leadership and it's clear that Woodson has lost control of JR Smith and Iman Shumpert.

archdevil84
01-20-2014, 07:16 PM
yeah miami, great job once again. hawks already have 48 points with 8 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter

tredigs
01-20-2014, 07:42 PM
71-70 at the half between Hawks/Heat. That's gotta be a season high in the NBA.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 07:55 PM
What happened to the Heat's defense?

tredigs
01-20-2014, 08:04 PM
Been getting worse every year since the big 3 formed. Just not elite on that end.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 08:16 PM
Only 3 minutes for Beasley, it looks like he may fall lout of the rotation.

archdevil84
01-20-2014, 09:00 PM
goddamn it miami lost again. wtf is wrong with their defense

tredigs
01-20-2014, 09:02 PM
Heat lose another one without Wade. Common theme.

tredigs
01-20-2014, 09:06 PM
Interesting to see the Hawks benching Teague in favor of Mack. Not good for him that it worked.

kdspurman
01-20-2014, 09:28 PM
Interesting to see the Hawks benching Teague in favor of Mack. Not good for him that it worked.

Teague looked like he had a bad game, Bud went with the guy playing better. I don't know if it means much or not, but long term it will help build their bench and give guys more confidence. It happens sometimes. Kudos to him for doing that and not playing someone just cause who they are

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 09:30 PM
The Heat are just bored.

Asik's better
01-20-2014, 09:39 PM
Rockets are now down to casspi playing centre

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 09:40 PM
The Heat are just bored.

Or exhausted from going to the finals 3 straight times, now making a run at a 4th straight run.

We did the same thing when we were attempting our 3 peat in 2011. Had lost our 1st finals appearance, won the last 2 championships, attempting to go for a 3 peat, but 4th straight final appearance.

It's exhausting, all the players on the heat get less time to rest than the other teams in the league, and everyone gives it their all every night vs you.

It's the same exact situation.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 09:43 PM
Nick young, the Richard Sherman of the NBA :p

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 09:45 PM
Rockets are now down to casspi playing centre

all because your idol is faking an injury because he wants to be traded.

Asik's better
01-20-2014, 09:49 PM
all because your idol is faking an injury because he wants to be traded.
1. Not my idol, running joke.
2. Not faking, actually injured, is due back next week

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 09:53 PM
Dwight and the Rockets' 3-point shooters are having a monster first half, but I've seen that song and dance before. I won't be relieved until it's out of reach in the fourth quarter. One thing's for sure, though. They certainly look like a better basketball team with Beverley back in the starting lineup. His intensity is contagious on both ends of the floor.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 09:55 PM
Nick Young has been Jamal Craford-esque this year, all he does is draw fouls when shooting 3s.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 09:56 PM
1. Not my idol, running joke.
2. Not faking, actually injured, is due back next week

I figured you're username was a joke, was just messin with you.

I did think he was faking the injury tho.

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 10:01 PM
I figured you're username was a joke, was just messin with you.

I did think he was faking the injury tho.

If I recall, I think his first name was T-Mac's Better, before changing it to Martin's Better and now Asik's Better. He just keeps picking the wrong guy to name himself after.

holditdown
01-20-2014, 10:02 PM
LaMarcus Aldridge leading the NBA in Field Goal Attempts.

I wonder the last time a big man lead the league in shots?

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
Ryan Kelly has been a pleasant surprise, one of the few bright spots this season for sure. Kid is fundamentally sound, can shoot, and has a high BBIQ. Not much more you can ask for from a 46th overall pick.

He's only gotten an opportunity because of injuries, but he's been impressive since he's been getting minutes.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
Rockets are kicking ***

Asik's better
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
If I recall, I think his first name was T-Mac's Better, before changing it to Martin's Better and now Asik's Better. He just keeps picking the wrong guy to name himself after.
Haha I just pick them out of a hat, I just have really bad luck

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 10:09 PM
LaMarcus Aldridge leading the NBA in Field Goal Attempts.

I wonder the last time a big man lead the league in shots?

That was a genuinely interesting question, so I clicked through every season on basketball reference until I found the answer. Kevin Garnett led the league in FGA in 2003-04 with 1,611. Another thing that was very obvious as I clicked through season after season this is that Kobe Bryant has taken a lot of ****ing shots in his career. He has led the league in FGA six times and is fourth in league history in attempts.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:09 PM
If I recall, I think his first name was T-Mac's Better, before changing it to Martin's Better and now Asik's Better. He just keeps picking the wrong guy to name himself after.

He seems to have the kiss of death then. Let's hope he changes his name to Harden then :p

holditdown
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
That was a genuinely interesting question, so I clicked through every season on basketball reference until I found the answer. Kevin Garnett led the league in FGA in 2003-04 with 1,611. Another thing that was very obvious as I clicked through season after season this is that Kobe Bryant has taken a lot of ****ing shots in his career. He has led the league in FGA six times and is fourth in league history in attempts.

Yea I think Kobe is the all time leader in missed field goals.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
That was a genuinely interesting question, so I clicked through every season on basketball reference until I found the answer. Kevin Garnett led the league in FGA in 2003-04 with 1,611. Another thing that was very obvious as I clicked through season after season this is that Kobe Bryant has taken a lot of ****ing shots in his career. He has led the league in FGA six times and is fourth in league history in attempts.

I may be wrong but I think Kobe is 1st in NBA history in misses. Comes with the territory tho. Like you said, he's taken a lot of shots, if he's led the league in most shot attempts, then he would be the #1 candidate for missed shots as well.

tredigs
01-20-2014, 10:18 PM
That was a genuinely interesting question, so I clicked through every season on basketball reference until I found the answer. Kevin Garnett led the league in FGA in 2003-04 with 1,611. Another thing that was very obvious as I clicked through season after season this is that Kobe Bryant has taken a lot of ****ing shots in his career. He has led the league in FGA six times and is fourth in league history in attempts.
I checked it out too. Even this season KG was only 5th in attempts per game (he averaged 19.6, AI and T-Mac averaged 23.4), but they didn't play full seasons so he ended up with the most total attempts. I got back to '99 and there still wasn't any bigs leading in attempts per game. Between Kobe, T-Mac and AI nobody stood a chance. And I doubt any big shot more than Jordan in the late 80's and 90's. Maybe Olajuwon in 93 when MJ was playing baseball is the answer.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Ryan Kelly has been a pleasant surprise, one of the few bright spots this season for sure. Kid is fundamentally sound, can shoot, and has a high BBIQ. Not much more you can ask for from a 46th overall pick.

He's only gotten an opportunity because of injuries, but he's been impressive since he's been getting minutes.

Being a Duke fan I am biased but he was a steal there, I think if he hadn't had that foot injury last year at worst he would have gone at the top of the second round.

tredigs
01-20-2014, 10:25 PM
Only a 52.2% TS for Lamarcus though. That's pretty weak.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:27 PM
Being a Duke fan I am biased but he was a steal there, I think if he hadn't had that foot injury last year at worst he would have gone at the top of the second round.


I don't watch college ball, but yea, I had read that his foot injury lowered his stock.

I honestly never expect 2nd round picks to get minutes for us. We usually sign them and they're out of the league as soon as their contract expires. Like I said earlier, He's only gotten minutes because of all the injuries, but now he's taking advantage of this opportunity and proving he deserves the minute's he's getting. Hopefully he can continue to develop for the remainder of the season.

Right on cue. . he just drew a shooting foul haha. That pumpfake is effective.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:32 PM
Ryan Kelly for 3. Dirk 2.0. . . let me dream!

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:34 PM
Kendall Marshall has been horrible today, not even getting assists, so he's practically been useless. Don't know how the hell we're up at chicago...


WTF. That was a hard foul on Kelly, Bulls just mad cuz he's going Dirk on em.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 10:37 PM
Ryan Kelly for 3. Dirk 2.0. . . let me dream!

They always called him that on the Duke forum.:cool:

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:39 PM
They always called him that on the Duke forum.:cool:

Haha, He looks a little like Pau and Dirk combined.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:41 PM
Woah, just looked at the score for the blazers-rockets game. 8 pt game. Weren't the rockets just up 20?

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:43 PM
Right now 3 out of 5 lakers on the court have played in the D League this year.

Ryan Kelly
Kendall Marshall
Manny Harris

How the **** are we even in this game. Cmon bulls!

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 10:46 PM
Woah, just looked at the score for the blazers-rockets game. 8 pt game. Weren't the rockets just up 20?

No lead is ever safe with them.

WARRIORS@GR
01-20-2014, 10:46 PM
Right now 3 out of 5 lakers on the court have played in the D League this year.

Ryan Kelly
Kendall Marshall
Manny Harris

How the **** are we even in this game. Cmon bulls!
You're up because Nick Young is The Truth!

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:49 PM
No lead is ever safe with them.

sure looks that way. It's gonna be a fun 4th Q.


You're up because Nick Young is The Truth!

Can't deny that. Love watching him take all these shot right now that kobe is out :laugh2:

72-69. WTF, step up bulls!!!

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:53 PM
Bulls up now. 15 lead changes in this game so far.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 10:54 PM
Bulls up 3! Chicago's Defense looking a little better now.

shep33
01-20-2014, 11:00 PM
Man, c'mon Chicago

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:08 PM
If Ryan Kelly has scores at least 17 pts today that would be 3 straight games with 17+. Last laker rookies to do that, Kobe Bryant and Eddie Jones. :laugh2:

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:09 PM
Phenomenal ball movement in this game by Houston, and so much of it has been Beverley's presence. I've got no delusion that he's a great distributing point guard, because he's not. But he's a fast, fearless penetrator, which draws defenders and leads to great passing on the perimeter. This is a better basketball team when he's healthy.

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:11 PM
Uh oh.... Here comes the Blazers' run. Although I thought Dwight got screwed on back to back possessions there. I didn't think that was travel and then I thought Aldridge clearly swiped his hand to get the steal. Regardless, they have got to keep their cool and quit giving up easy transition buckets.

Matter.
01-20-2014, 11:14 PM
wow La.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:14 PM
Bulls take the lead!! :clap:

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:15 PM
Woah, just looked at the score for the blazers-rockets game. 8 pt game. Weren't the rockets just up 20?

McMoron puts Beverley back in, Dwight misses a few dunks and the Blazers are a quality NBA team. A 20 pt. lead is not safe.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 11:16 PM
McMoron puts Beverley back in, Dwight misses a few dunks and the Blazers are a quality NBA team. A 20 pt. lead is not safe.

They really could use an upgrade at coach.

Stunner
01-20-2014, 11:17 PM
Noah better make the all star team

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:20 PM
I hope nick misses 1, but I have to say, he's fun to watch. What more can I ask for while tanking? LMAO

WARRIORS@GR
01-20-2014, 11:20 PM
McMoron puts Beverley back in, Dwight misses a few dunks and the Blazers are a quality NBA team. A 20 pt. lead is not safe.Beverley has a +21,with your guy Lin at -2.Try again.

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:22 PM
McMoron puts Beverley back in, Dwight misses a few dunks and the Blazers are a quality NBA team. A 20 pt. lead is not safe.

Lol.... Are you kidding me, bro? Beverley has clearly outplayed Lin in this game by a mile. And he had arguably the four biggest points of the game right after the Blazers pulled to within 11.

I'm a Lin fan, and I'm a Beverley fan. Overall, I do believe Lin is a slightly better overall player, but Beverley fits this starting lineup better, and you picked a really, really bad game to make fun of the guy. Pick your spots, bro. This wasn't one of them.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:23 PM
Bill Mcdonald before the game "I know I'm going to jinx it, but lakers have not played in an overtime game this year"

We just went to OT.

:worthy:

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:23 PM
They really could use an upgrade at coach.

I'm beginning to agree with this, but they really stepped it up tonight.

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:25 PM
Why in the **** are half the starters still in the game? Really, McHale?

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 11:26 PM
I'm beginning to agree with this, but they really stepped it up tonight.

Yep, very impressive win.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:28 PM
Bulls, you suck honestly.

WARRIORS@GR
01-20-2014, 11:28 PM
Yeah,McHale has done that before,starters keep playing while it's a 20pt game with 2 to go.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:30 PM
DJ Augustin! :)

Stunner
01-20-2014, 11:31 PM
Pacers and Raps didn't know how to use DJ Augustin

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:31 PM
Noah played great D there despite 5 fouls.

DJ Augustin is going ham and bustin out a nate. Takin advantage of rose being out.

Stunner
01-20-2014, 11:32 PM
I swear Players go to Chicago now to revive their careers lol

Stunner
01-20-2014, 11:34 PM
Noah !!!!

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:35 PM
Beverley has a +21,with your guy Lin at -2.Try again.

longterm that ain't gonna work.

WARRIORS@GR
01-20-2014, 11:35 PM
Jimmy Butler with 50 minutes again tonight!

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:36 PM
I was such a huge Augustin fan when he was at UT, and I was devastated when he came out early. But his career has largely been a disappointment. He's been playing really well since coming to Chicago, and I hope this truly revitalizes his career. There's no reason he couldn't be a solid 6th man or at least a solid rotational player for a contender in this league.

WARRIORS@GR
01-20-2014, 11:36 PM
longterm that ain't gonna work.You said that Beverley checked in the game as it was a bad thing,while he played great tonight.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:37 PM
Kobe why are you so happy after that shot to tie the game? You should be on TANK NATION.

Wiggins should be your teammate next year!

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:38 PM
Lol.... Are you kidding me, bro? Beverley has clearly outplayed Lin in this game by a mile. And he had arguably the four biggest points of the game right after the Blazers pulled to within 11.

I'm a Lin fan, and I'm a Beverley fan. Overall, I do believe Lin is a slightly better overall player, but Beverley fits this starting lineup better, and you picked a really, really bad game to make fun of the guy. Pick your spots, bro. This wasn't one of them.

Oh I know this. I mean as a whole. This is McFail's game plan and longterm it's gonna hurt them.

I picked my spots all season. This coach is consistently inept. The Rockets are the most talented roster in the NBA and they have an inept zero as a head coach. His players win in spite of his inept coaching abilities.

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:38 PM
longterm that ain't gonna work.

Dude, just quit while you're behind. Patrick Beverley is undoubtedly a better fit in this starting five than Lin is. Ask any Rockets fan who has watched this team over the last year and a half and they'll tell you the same thing. Lin is a dynamic player, but he's a bad fit next to Harden and Beverley fits like a glove.

Stunner
01-20-2014, 11:38 PM
Chicago and these OT's lol

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 11:39 PM
Chicago needs to pull it out.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:39 PM
Bulls win at the buzzer?!?!?! Did it count?! I hope so. . .

Stunner
01-20-2014, 11:39 PM
Taj ?!!!!

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:40 PM
Dude, just quit while you're behind. Patrick Beverley is undoubtedly a better fit in this starting five than Lin is. Ask any Rockets fan who has watched this team over the last year and a half and they'll tell you the same thing. Lin is a dynamic player, but he's a bad fit next to Harden and Beverley fits like a glove.

Who's disagreeing. Now answer me this, why do the Rockets not trade him?

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:40 PM
What a game in chicago, I feel bad for the players because it hurt them, but it's what's best for us. Sorry guys. TANK!

tredigs
01-20-2014, 11:41 PM
lmfao at the home cooking on that shot clock. Started it after a full dribble and jump stop. That play took far longer than 0.9 seconds.

Asik's better
01-20-2014, 11:41 PM
Who's disagreeing. Now answer me this, why do the Rockets not trade him?

Who? Lin, because he is great off the bench. And houston need Lin for the bench

Blitzace137
01-20-2014, 11:41 PM
lmfao at the home cooking on that shot clock. Started it after a full dribble and jump stop. That play took far longer than 0.9 seconds.

lol I was thinking the same thing no way he could get a layup with .9

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:42 PM
Oh I know this. I mean as a whole. This is McFail's game plan and longterm it's gonna hurt them.

I picked my spots all season. This coach is consistently inept. The Rockets are the most talented roster in the NBA and they have an inept zero as a head coach. His players win in spite of his inept coaching abilities.

I don't disagree with you that McHale's coaching has been a point of frustration this season. They give up way too many big second half leads because of the lack of adjustments and they lose way too many games to inferior teams because they come out flat. He also has too much of a tendency to play small ball when it isn't warranted (although he did it out of necessity tonight).

But the two times I've seen you pick apart McHale lately hasn't been for those reasons. You're ripping him for starting Beverley over Lin and for not giving Motiejunas playing time. As someone who has watched and/or followed almost every Rockets game the last two years, I agree with him on both accounts. Motiejunas isn't very good, and the Rockets starting five just plays better with Beverley on the floor.

You can disagree with me, but that doesn't make your points any more valid. Anyone who watches this team as closely as I do would agree with me.

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:42 PM
IDEK how the Bulls won that one.

Matter.
01-20-2014, 11:43 PM
Yes lakers loose

Matter.
01-20-2014, 11:43 PM
IDEK how the Bulls won that one.
the girl in my sig> yours

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:44 PM
Who? Lin, because he is great off the bench. And houston need Lin for the bench

That makes no damn sense. You know damn well they did not sign him to be a bench player. Jeremy has even expressed wanting to start. [See this is sounding too Lin fan for my taste now]

Plain and simple the Roxs have the worst coach in the NBA.

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:44 PM
the girl in my sig> yours

oh really?

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 11:45 PM
IDEK how the Bulls won that one.

Thibs

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:46 PM
Who's disagreeing. Now answer me this, why do the Rockets not trade him?

A number of reasons. First off, they have very few players who can create for themselves, and that's a huge strength to have off your bench. I actually think Lin's real value in this league is as a sixth man rather than a starting point guard. Secondly, Lin was kind of a big disappointment last season, so he didn't help his value at all. He's done a lot to help his cause this season, but he's starting to regress a bit, and that $15 million contract next year isn't helping him much. Couple that with a GM who only makes trades that net him assets or make his team better, and Lin is likely staying a Rocket for a while.

And all that is before you consider the substantial injury woes the Rockets have dealt with this season. Not only did they lose Beverley for a month, but Parsons and Harden have also misses time, which puts stress on that back court.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:48 PM
lmfao at the home cooking on that shot clock. Started it after a full dribble and jump stop. That play took far longer than 0.9 seconds.

And I ain't even trippin!

Enjoy it now, first time you wont see laker fans ***** after getting screwed haha


the girl in my sig> yours

Hell yea.


oh really?

really.

mightybosstone
01-20-2014, 11:49 PM
That makes no damn sense. You know damn well they did not sign him to be a bench player. Jeremy has even expressed wanting to start. [See this is sounding too Lin fan for my taste now]

Plain and simple the Roxs have the worst coach in the NBA.

I don't think that's necessarily fair. There are a LOT of bad coaches in the league. Also consider that, while McHale is hardly a great coach, Morey is easily one of the best GMs in the league. When Morey feels that McHale is inhibiting the team's ability to contend long-term, he will make a change at coach. He hasn't done it yet, probably because there aren't a lot of coaches out there without a job who are better than McHale.

There is no Greg Popovich out there waiting in the wings for a job right now, and if there is, he's probably an unknown assistant coach somewhere we've never heard of.

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 11:50 PM
Let's Go Warriors

tredigs
01-20-2014, 11:51 PM
And I ain't even trippin!

Enjoy it now, first time you wont see laker fans ***** after getting screwed haha



Hell yea.



really.

Haha I know right. 0 Lakers fans care they just got blatantly robbed.

This Indy/GSW game should be good.

PacersForLife
01-20-2014, 11:53 PM
Offense is crazy so far for both teams.

SugeKnight
01-20-2014, 11:54 PM
Warriors can't stop anything right now

NBA_Starter
01-20-2014, 11:55 PM
Warriors can't stop anything right now

That sig :clap:

Asik's better
01-20-2014, 11:56 PM
That makes no damn sense. You know damn well they did not sign him to be a bench player. Jeremy has even expressed wanting to start. [See this is sounding too Lin fan for my taste now]

Plain and simple the Roxs have the worst coach in the NBA.

What do mean it makes no sense? The rockets starting 5 need help on perimeter D. Bevs provides that, Lin dosn't. Rockets bench needed scoring, Lin provides that, bevs dosnt. It's not rocket science. Mchale makes a lot of mistakes, starting Bevs isn't one of them.

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:57 PM
Hell yea.



really.

at any moment I can end this and make homie wish he sticked to photoshop.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:57 PM
Haha I know right. 0 Lakers fans care they just got blatantly robbed.

This Indy/GSW game should be good.

It might make your blood pressure rise but I'm hoping for a close game. Make it like the lakers one.

Lakers + Giants
01-20-2014, 11:58 PM
at any moment I can end this and make homie wish he sticked to photoshop.

prove it or gtfo

(hoping my reverse psychology works)

KniCks4LiFe
01-20-2014, 11:58 PM
I don't think that's necessarily fair. There are a LOT of bad coaches in the league. Also consider that, while McHale is hardly a great coach, Morey is easily one of the best GMs in the league. When Morey feels that McHale is inhibiting the team's ability to contend long-term, he will make a change at coach. He hasn't done it yet, probably because there aren't a lot of coaches out there without a job who are better than McHale.

There is no Greg Popovich out there waiting in the wings for a job right now, and if there is, he's probably an unknown assistant coach somewhere we've never heard of.

go down the list of coaches in the NBA, one by one, I bet any of them >>>> McHale.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:02 AM
go down the list of coaches in the NBA, one by one, I bet any of them >>>> McHale.

Agree to disagree. I think there are a lot of coaches in the league who are as bad, if not worse, than McHale. I certainly wouldn't say he's the worst in the league, and I have no idea how you determine that. And again, I'll take Daryl Morey's word for it over yours. Also, you're completely skipping over my main point, which is that you're criticizing McHale for all the wrong reasons. You want to criticize him for his inability to make second-half adjustments or for his odd rotations? Sure. But criticizing him for not playing Lin or Motiejunas more is totally ludicrous.

WARRIORS@GR
01-21-2014, 12:04 AM
Warriors playing like **** again.

tredigs
01-21-2014, 12:05 AM
Speights is so bad. Jermaine and Ezeli can't come back soon enough.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:08 AM
Agree to disagree. I think there are a lot of coaches in the league who are as bad, if not worse, than McHale. I certainly wouldn't say he's the worst in the league, and I have no idea how you determine that. And again, I'll take Daryl Morey's word for it over yours. Also, you're completely skipping over my main point, which is that you're criticizing McHale for all the wrong reasons. You want to criticize him for his inability to make second-half adjustments or for his odd rotations? Sure. But criticizing him for not playing Lin or Motiejunas more is totally ludicrous.

No McHale is the worst. With all that talent. He is by far the worst coach in the NBA.

Brad Stevens > McHale
Woodson > McHale
Kidd > McHale
Malone > McHale
Pringles > McHale
Stotts > McHale
Frank > McHale
Jackson > McHale
Brooks > McHale
Vaughn > McHale
Del Negro > McHale
Hornacek > McHale
Corbin > McHale
Budenholzer > McHale
Wittman > McHale

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:10 AM
This is getting ugly. The Warriors need to find some semblance of defense, and the bench needs to play a hell of a lot better than this. They're 0-6 so far with a turnover and a foul in 16 total minutes. This would be a nice game for Crawford to have a coming out party in a new jersey.

sunsfan88
01-21-2014, 12:11 AM
Or exhausted from going to the finals 3 straight times, now making a run at a 4th straight run.

We did the same thing when we were attempting our 3 peat in 2011. Had lost our 1st finals appearance, won the last 2 championships, attempting to go for a 3 peat, but 4th straight final appearance.

It's exhausting, all the players on the heat get less time to rest than the other teams in the league, and everyone gives it their all every night vs you.

It's the same exact situation.

Good point. Plus they aren't as hungry anymore and its completely understandable. You have already won back to back championships and made it to the finals 3 straight times. Right now there isn't much for them to do.

I think Miami will still figure it out by playoff time and win another title but if they don't, they will definitely be more hungry next year and more rested too.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:11 AM
Cheeks > McHale
Brett Brown > McHale
Drew > McHale
Williams > McHale
Casey > McHale
Thibs >>>>>>>> McHale
Spoelstra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McHale

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:14 AM
No McHale is the worst. With all that talent. He is by far the worst coach in the NBA.

Brad Stevens > McHale
Woodson > McHale
Kidd > McHale
Malone > McHale
Pringles > McHale
Stotts > McHale
Frank > McHale
Jackson > McHale
Brooks > McHale
Vaughn > McHale
Del Negro > McHale
Hornacek > McHale
Corbin > McHale
Budenholzer > McHale
Wittman > McHale

Based on what? You're just speaking in vague generalizations with nothing to back up what you're saying. You can say "McHale is the worst coach in the league," but what the **** does that even mean? How do you prove that? There's no statistical data that proves a coach's worth aside from wins, and he's done pretty good in that regard since coming to Houston.

I do think McHale is a mediocre coach, and if they don't make improvements in some of the areas I've discussed already, they need to consider going a different direction. But I'm also not ready to call him the worst coach in the league. He's done a damn good job building an uptempo offense that works, while developing some of the team's younger players and getting the best out of Dwight Howard. They could certainly do worse at coach in the NBA. If you want to disagree with me, fine. That's your prerogative, but you have no evidence whatsoever to backup your claim.

Stunner
01-21-2014, 12:15 AM
Got Thibs and Spoel's arrows mixed

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:15 AM
Carlisimo > McHale
Johnson > Mchale
Hollins > McHale
Ewing > McHale

sunsfan88
01-21-2014, 12:17 AM
Whoa anyone see that commercial with Harden shaving his beard for All Star game?

sunsfan88
01-21-2014, 12:22 AM
GS needs to stop shooting so much and drive it in or just dump it low to Lee. Everything is a 3 or a long jumper for GSW.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:24 AM
Van Gundy > McHale
Stan Van Gundy > McHale
Hubie Brown > McHale
Bird > McHale
Shaw > McHale

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:30 AM
Carlisimo > McHale
Johnson > Mchale
Hollins > McHale
Ewing > McHale


Van Gundy > McHale
Stan Van Gundy > McHale
Hubie Brown > McHale
Bird > McHale
Shaw > McHale

You're quickly losing whatever respect I had left for you. I already don't take your opinions on the Rockets seriously, but you're beginning to hover around the group of guys whose takes are laughably bad. If you don't want to have a legitimate basketball discussion, just don't say anything. I don't come to PSD to feed trolls. I come to talk sports.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:32 AM
Whoa anyone see that commercial with Harden shaving his beard for All Star game?

:laugh: I did. It's nice to see the guy in commercials where he shows a sense of humor. The guy so rarely shows emotion on the court or in interviews that it's so hard to tell what kind of person he is when he's not playing basketball.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:37 AM
You're quickly losing whatever respect I had left for you. I already don't take your opinions on the Rockets seriously, but you're beginning to hover around the group of guys whose takes are laughably bad. If you don't want to have a legitimate basketball discussion, just don't say anything. I don't come to PSD to feed trolls. I come to talk sports.

we are talking sports, each and every one of those coaches are better than McHale. There wouldn't be one NBA team that wouldn't take those guys over McHale.

Asik's better
01-21-2014, 12:40 AM
we are talking sports, each and every one of those coaches are better than McHale. There wouldn't be one NBA team that wouldn't take those guys over McHale.
I think everyone would take Mchale over kidd

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:41 AM
I think everyone would take Mchale over kidd

Nah. Even Kidd is better.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:43 AM
we are talking sports, each and every one of those coaches are better than McHale. There wouldn't be one NBA team that wouldn't take those guys over McHale.

If you're not going to answer any of my questions or respond to the things I say, then I'm just going to stop responding to your posts. Listing coaches does not answer or address any of my points. I want to know WHY those coaches are better, and for you to name one legitimate thing about McHale that he does poorly (aside from your awful Lin and D-Mo takes). Let's not waste each other's time by spewing the same repetitive nonsense. If you have nothing else to add to the conversation, I think we're done here.

shep33
01-21-2014, 12:45 AM
Kind of a crazy statistic. Last 3 years Iggy's numbers at the line are the following:

62%
57%
58%

Weird considering his first 6 years he was above 70 and even shot 82% one year

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 12:51 AM
If you're not going to answer any of my questions or respond to the things I say, then I'm just going to stop responding to your posts. Listing coaches does not answer or address any of my points. I want to know WHY those coaches are better, and for you to name one legitimate thing about McHale that he does poorly (aside from your awful Lin and D-Mo takes). Let's not waste each other's time by spewing the same repetitive nonsense. If you have nothing else to add to the conversation, I think we're done here.

b/c they run offenses better than McHale.

McHale is mainly high pick n' roll and isos. There is no game plan past that.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 12:55 AM
Kind of a crazy statistic. Last 3 years Iggy's numbers at the line are the following:

62%
57%
58%

Weird considering his first 6 years he was above 70 and even shot 82% one year

Wow, that is really odd. It's even stranger when you consider he shot 39% from the 3-point line one of those years and is shooting 43% from beyond the arc this season. It's really unusual to see a guy finally develop a 3-point shot while having his free throw percentage dive so drastically.

Iggy's one of those unfortunate players who has been elite at certain things at different times, but never put it all together at the same time. Early in his career, he was arguably the most athletic player in the league and he could get to the line, where he was very dangerous, but he wasn't quite the defender he would later become and he had littler range on his jump shot. Now he's finally got range on his jumper and he's arguably the best perimeter defender in the league when healthy, but he's lost his athleticism and he can't buy a free throw.

It really sucks Iggy couldn't have figured it all out and given us 3-4 seasons of a hyper efficient, hyper athletic win who defended as well as anyone in the league. That Iggy would have been a Hall of Fame caliber player.

tredigs
01-21-2014, 01:06 AM
hah well Iggy's still pretty athletic. Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVmrEzT4M64. Smith got in the way, but you get the idea. That FT shooting is a mess though.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:12 AM
hah well Iggy's still pretty athletic. Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVmrEzT4M64. Smith got in the way, but you get the idea. That FT shooting is a mess though.

Oh, I'm not saying the guy still isn't a phenomenal athlete. But it wasn't that long ago that we were getting highlight reel dunks from him every game and he was one of the most feared transition players in the league. He's clearly not that same player anymore.

goku
01-21-2014, 01:12 AM
I've heard nothing but Knicks fans wanting woodson fired and I don't think Kidd Better the McHale even though he is mediocre

SugeKnight
01-21-2014, 01:13 AM
ref u suck

WARRIORS@GR
01-21-2014, 01:13 AM
What a ****in call there.

SugeKnight
01-21-2014, 01:18 AM
Warriors playin some good defense

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:20 AM
I hate Curry because he plays in the same conference as the Rockets, and he's terrifying to play against. But what a fun guy to watch. He's the one guy in the league who could chuck it up from 40 feet with three hands in his face and you'd still hold your breath waiting for him to make it.

Htownballa1622
01-21-2014, 01:21 AM
I love watching games played at Oracle. Those fans are nuts. Awesome arena vibe even on tv.

This is a high intensity game.

zn23
01-21-2014, 01:22 AM
Warriors with an impressive comeback, last time I checked the score it was like 60 - 40.

AddiX
01-21-2014, 01:22 AM
Even though i wanted David lee gone from the Knicks I still enjoy watching him play.

And I don't know why but every time he makes a nice play and scores it still surprises me even after all these years. He got them slow motion skills.

Htownballa1622
01-21-2014, 01:22 AM
I hate Curry because he plays in the same conference as the Rockets, and he's terrifying to play against. But what a fun guy to watch. He's the one guy in the league who could chuck it up from 40 feet with three hands in his face and you'd still hold your breath waiting for him to make it.

x2

Same here.

I get agitated with some posters here but I thoroughly enjoy watching them. David Lee would look nice in a Rox uni. imo.

WARRIORS@GR
01-21-2014, 01:26 AM
Lee and Barnes got fouled liked 5 times there,wow.

lol, please
01-21-2014, 01:27 AM
Can't even get a call in our own house. NBA doesn't want us to win.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:28 AM
Wow. Mahinmi coming up huge there. He gets a massive offensive rebound and putback on one end, defends like a monster on the paint on the other end, gets the defensive rebound and then makes two free throws. That's a huge four-point swing.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:29 AM
And then the inevitable "Just because I ****ing can" contested 3-pointer from Curry. Great stretch of basketball here.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 01:29 AM
yo I have never seen the Warriors play w/ so much intensity defensively like they are doing tonight.

shep33
01-21-2014, 01:33 AM
Wow, that is really odd. It's even stranger when you consider he shot 39% from the 3-point line one of those years and is shooting 43% from beyond the arc this season. It's really unusual to see a guy finally develop a 3-point shot while having his free throw percentage dive so drastically.

Iggy's one of those unfortunate players who has been elite at certain things at different times, but never put it all together at the same time. Early in his career, he was arguably the most athletic player in the league and he could get to the line, where he was very dangerous, but he wasn't quite the defender he would later become and he had littler range on his jump shot. Now he's finally got range on his jumper and he's arguably the best perimeter defender in the league when healthy, but he's lost his athleticism and he can't buy a free throw.

It really sucks Iggy couldn't have figured it all out and given us 3-4 seasons of a hyper efficient, hyper athletic win who defended as well as anyone in the league. That Iggy would have been a Hall of Fame caliber player.

Yeah, don't get me wrong he's a very good player still, I love watching him play, but yeah he could've been like Pippen.

He's incredibly unselfish, perhaps to a fault at times

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 01:38 AM
uh-oh

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:38 AM
Watching the mediocrity that has been the Rockets since Yao got hurt has been tough, but there are two guys I miss tremendously and will always root for: Shane Battier and Luis Scola. I think Scola could end up playing a big, big part in the Pacers' playoff run this season. The guy is so skilled offensively and gives so many ****s on both ends of the floor despite being a below average athlete.

SugeKnight
01-21-2014, 01:41 AM
yo I have never seen the Warriors play w/ so much intensity defensively like they are doing tonight.
Warriors are 4th in fg% defense. That number would be better if they had Iggy all year

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 01:41 AM
menacing glare?

Lance always stares like that. That's Lance.

Fnom11
01-21-2014, 01:41 AM
Why did Lance do that? Didn't see anything worth taunting over....

Slug3
01-21-2014, 01:43 AM
Does frank Vogel cry about everything?

tredigs
01-21-2014, 01:46 AM
PG can hit some ridiculously tough shots.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 01:48 AM
Why did Lance do that? Didn't see anything worth taunting over....

he's black and looks like an Onyx = menacing stares.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:48 AM
I think the last few offensive possessions exemplify why I sometimes have a hard time taking the Warriors seriously as contenders. So little ball movement and way too much dependence on Steph Curry isolation basketball 30 feet from the basket. Just because Curry CAN make that shot, doesn't mean you should depend on him to make that shot.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:50 AM
Warriors are 4th in fg% defense. That number would be better if they had Iggy all year

The Rockets are fifth in opponents' FG%. Try selling that to the average PSD poster. It's a hard sell to say the least.

sunsfan88
01-21-2014, 01:53 AM
:laugh: I did. It's nice to see the guy in commercials where he shows a sense of humor. The guy so rarely shows emotion on the court or in interviews that it's so hard to tell what kind of person he is when he's not playing basketball.

Yea he had that commercial with Westbrook for Footlocker too.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:54 AM
Scola! My Argentinian Prince!!!!

tredigs
01-21-2014, 01:55 AM
No Bogut will be the end of us tonight.

SugeKnight
01-21-2014, 01:55 AM
****, I wish we had one healthy backup center

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:56 AM
I hope the Bogut injury isn't serious.

lol, please
01-21-2014, 01:57 AM
With Ezeli and Oneal milking injuries, an injured Bogut is trouble.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 01:57 AM
****, I wish we had one healthy backup center

I feel you, bro. Omri freaking Casspi played most of his minutes at center tonight. That's how thin the Rockets' front court is right now.

tredigs
01-21-2014, 01:57 AM
Yeah, not ideal to have 1 healthy center on a roster in situations like this.

KniCks4LiFe
01-21-2014, 01:59 AM
****, I wish we had one healthy backup center

Hi unofficial NY Knicks FO rep here, :D

We got this guy named Tyson Chandler

Well if you're interested, we are looking at guys like Speights and Thompson depending if you can make the $$$ work.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 02:02 AM
What a shot by George Hill. That's probably the one that wins Indiana the game.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 02:03 AM
Ladies and gentlemen.... Steph Curry!!!

Slug3
01-21-2014, 02:03 AM
A 2 on 1 and they go for a 3. Lol

tredigs
01-21-2014, 02:05 AM
Tough to call that a 2 on 1. Curry should've just jumped into him. 3 free FT's left on the table. That's ball game.

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 02:05 AM
A 2 on 1 and they go for a 3. Lol

Yeah. Thompson should have either taken it to the rim or Curry should have done a better job filling his lane in transition rather than setting up shop 24 feet from the basket.

nastynice
01-21-2014, 02:07 AM
Dammit!!

tredigs
01-21-2014, 02:07 AM
Indy's definitely the best team in the NBA. Tough in every facet. Bench was the difference tonight. As it usually is in GS losses.

SugeKnight
01-21-2014, 02:08 AM
Warriors lost this game in the first quarter. Can't expect to make a 20 point comeback against the best team in the league

WARRIORS@GR
01-21-2014, 02:09 AM
Warriors lost this game in the first quarter. Can't expect to make a 20 point comeback against the best team in the leagueYeah this.See you in the Finals Pacers!

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 02:12 AM
Indy's definitely the best team in the NBA. Tough in every facet. Bench was the difference tonight. As it usually is in GS losses.

I'm starting to get swayed from my initial "the Heat are the favorite until they get beaten" take. The Heat are going to need either a deal by the trade deadline to get bigger, a monumental performance from their big three and/or a pretty big choke job by the Pacers to get past Indiana this year. Indiana is just the better basketball team right now.

nastynice
01-21-2014, 02:12 AM
A 2 on 1 and they go for a 3. Lol

that actually wasn't a bad play. Good defense by whoever was on curry, hill I think, made it a lot tougher compared to how the dubs usually run that play, didn't let curry properly set

nastynice
01-21-2014, 02:13 AM
Indy is frikkin deadly man, they had some BIG shots down the stretch. They are gonna give the heat a hell of a run for the east

PacersForLife
01-21-2014, 02:14 AM
Good game Dubs fans.

tredigs
01-21-2014, 02:14 AM
Yeah, I don't think Miami can beat them anymore.

Slug3
01-21-2014, 02:14 AM
that actually wasn't a bad play. Good defense by whoever was on curry, hill I think, made it a lot tougher compared to how the dubs usually run that play, didn't let curry properly set

The problem is GS would rather take a 3 over a layup. That's the way they play.

holditdown
01-21-2014, 02:18 AM
The problem is GS would rather take a 3 over a layup. That's the way they play.

I know right. Their point guard decided to jack up eleven 3's.

tredigs
01-21-2014, 02:18 AM
They were down 4 and would've had to foul on the next possession. You go for the 3 every time there if you have the chance. Otherwise the most likely scenario is that you're down 4 again. It's an easy decision. But like I said the mistake was not taking the 3 FT's after Curry got him in the air.


I know right. Their point guard decided to jack up eleven 3's.
As he should.

nastynice
01-21-2014, 02:21 AM
The problem is GS would rather take a 3 over a layup. That's the way they play.

I know what you mean, but given the situation and how effective they are at that play, I ain't mad at it. A two woulda made it 2 point game and you hope they miss a free throw, whereas a three makes it at worst a one possession game.

I guess ur right, its just the way we play. Love it some days, hate it others lol

But really after the way the pacers spanked dubs on the offensive glass, that three is really the last thing to complain about

shep33
01-21-2014, 02:41 AM
Indy is mean. I like it

mightybosstone
01-21-2014, 10:26 AM
They were down 4 and would've had to foul on the next possession. You go for the 3 every time there if you have the chance. Otherwise the most likely scenario is that you're down 4 again. It's an easy decision. But like I said the mistake was not taking the 3 FT's after Curry got him in the air.

As he should.

Perhaps. But in that situation, there's another scenario you hadn't considered, which is a very strong possibility of a 3-point play at the rim. Thompson had a great shot for one, and if he misses it, at least they get two points from the line.

I also think Curry either should of taken the shot when he had the potential to get fouled or passed the ball. The shot he ended up taking was a poor one, and they had plenty of time on the clock to get a much better 3-pointer if that was their goal on that possession.