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Mile High Champ
01-07-2014, 02:41 PM
(27-6)http://www.rotoworld.com/img/NBA/teams/logos/IND.png..............http://www.rotoworld.com/img/NBA/teams/logos/TOR.png(16-16)
INDIANA PACERS (http://www.nba.com/pacers/index_main.html) v. TORONTO RAPTORS (www.torontoraptors.com)

NBA Game Overview (http://www.nba.com/games/20140107/TORIND/gameinfo.html)
ESPN Preview (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/preview?gameId=400489383)


Date: January 7 2014
Time: 7:00 PM
Location: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
TV: SPORTSNET 360

CCOACH CASEY ON RAPS LOSS TO THE HEAT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfciQgWvFW8

PROJECTED STARTING LINEUPS: (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/depth)


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PG...........SG..........SF..........PF........... C
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HILL (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/george_hill/)----STEPHENSON (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/;ance_stephenson/index.html)----GEORGE (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/paul_george/)----WEST (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/david_west/index.html)----HIBBERT (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/roy_hibbert/index.html)


http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nba/logos/90x90/TOR.png
PG...........SG..........SF..........PF........... C
http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/images/NBA/Headshots/140x170/4152.jpg http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/images/NBA/Headshots/140x170/4614.jpg http://static.foxsports.com/fe/images/NBA/Headshots/140x170/5014.jpg http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/images/NBA/Headshots/140x170/3982.jpg http://static.foxsports.com/fe/images/NBA/Headshots/140x170/4886.jpg
LOWRY (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kyle_lowry/index.html)----DEROZAN (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/demar_derozan/index.html)----ROSS (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/terrence_ross/index.html)----JOHNSON (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/amir_johnson/index.html)----VALANCIUNAS (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jonas_valanciunas/)



STATS:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8213/raptors.gif (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=tor)...............http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2457/pacers.gif (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=ind)


Key Match UP

http://binaryapi.ap.org/cdb1925f80d74a6e8abb6ecd86c73dd5/460x.jpg
JONAS VALANCIUNAS v. ROY HIBBERT

MHC TAKE:


Tonight the Raps will look to rebound from a tough loss to the Miami Heat on Sunday in which their five game winning streak came to a halt. Toronto tonight will certainly have their hands today when they play the Indiana Pacers at home. This season, the Pacers are 16-1 at home this season and you know the Pacers will be looking for Revenge after dropping a game on New Years day to the Raps. More to come



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Jays Claw
01-07-2014, 02:49 PM
Man... this is gonna be one tough *** game.

bucketss
01-07-2014, 02:59 PM
we will probably lose,

killersweet
01-07-2014, 03:00 PM
I hope it would be 2-0 after these 2 games. But tonight is gonna be a tough one. Pacers looking for revenge and raps better bring it.

Sadds The Gr8
01-07-2014, 03:01 PM
they prolly mad from last time. We always play them tough but we might be due for a blowout.

djsunyc
01-07-2014, 03:12 PM
team wasn't able to fly out till 11am today b/c of weather. i don't expect a good performance by us b/c of that.

SA5195
01-07-2014, 04:28 PM
Not expecting anything tonight, Raps just got to indy this morning, no time for prep etc

deaner
01-07-2014, 04:34 PM
I'm sure the team has a gym to practice in while in Miami. It would be a good mini holiday for them. Clear the mind, stay warm, come back with focus today and I wonder if there's a income tax incentive to stay in Florida an extra day?

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 04:47 PM
I read on twitter that they aren't even at the hotel yet in Indiana.

MrSoFreshSoClea
01-07-2014, 04:58 PM
it's going to be a close game, this raps team never seems to disappoint, Raps getting blown out is out of the question..

Sly Guy
01-07-2014, 05:43 PM
still looking forward to this one. I predict another loss, but I hope it's another gutsy performance.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 06:24 PM
Witty pregame comment

pebloemer
01-07-2014, 06:25 PM
Why do all of their guys look like they just got bad news and our guys look like they all just got laid?

Thanks again for that Jamiecballer. Got another chuckle out of it today :).


Witty pregame comment

You've hit your quota for games against Indiana.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 06:32 PM
Who do you guys believe is the better defender, derozan or stephenson?

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 06:56 PM
Who do you guys believe is the better defender, derozan or stephenson?

Derozan is the better defender.

deaner
01-07-2014, 06:58 PM
Who do you guys believe is the better defender, derozan or stephenson?

My feeling is the Stephenson is the better defender. He's intense. But with that comes a bunch of personality flags for him. Demar is the better player for this team by far.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 07:32 PM
Interested to see how the team responds after a narrow loss to MIA

I Rock Shaqs
01-07-2014, 07:35 PM
Interested to see how the team responds after a narrow loss to MIA

iM THINKING SOMETHING LIKE 101-89 FOR iNDIANA.

But then tomorrow they stomp the Pistons.

siix
01-07-2014, 07:41 PM
As long as we don't get blown out I'm happy... i will be shocked if the raptors can pull out a win..

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 07:56 PM
My feeling is the Stephenson is the better defender. He's intense. But with that comes a bunch of personality flags for him. Demar is the better player for this team by far.

For what it's worth Synergy has Demar beating Stephenson in pretty much every single defensive category. Just for raw #'s Stephenson only averages 0.7 stls to Derozan's 1.2.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 07:58 PM
I voted for the Raps to win but I could totally see them losing because of the fact that they had to travel this morning. Lack of prep time, travel legs and the fact that Indiana wants redemption.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:02 PM
Hoping the crowd is thin tn because the weather. That could help.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 08:06 PM
Tony Brothers is on the crew tonight?

Chalk this up as an L

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:08 PM
Tony Brothers is on the crew tonight?

Chalk this up as an L

lol **** that guy HATES the Raps.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:17 PM
Lol wow no calls downlow

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:18 PM
Raps getting respect from the Refs now, lol.

Sly Guy
01-07-2014, 08:21 PM
lol, the book is out of the raps....we play physical. The pacers want to match that, but they're out of control tough right now and getting the whistle blown against them.

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 08:24 PM
craptors...no more

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:25 PM
lol, the book is out of the raps....we play physical. The pacers want to match that, but they're out of control tough right now and getting the whistle blown against them.

They're hand checking & not making plays on the ball when they initiate contact. It's going to be a good game tn.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 08:26 PM
Derozan is the better defender.
Hmm. I thought stephenson came into the league a good defender.

deaner
01-07-2014, 08:32 PM
craptors...no more

Never were.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:35 PM
Hmm. I thought stephenson came into the league a good defender.

He's above average but Derozan has been elite this season.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 08:35 PM
Our offense is putrid right now.

Sly Guy
01-07-2014, 08:35 PM
we're a step slow right now. Lowry's playing with energy, not sure who else is gonna chip in. The passes aren't as crisp as they have been

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:35 PM
Shots aren't falling, obviously because of the travel...

MrSoFreshSoClea
01-07-2014, 08:39 PM
Watson looks like a fly with those googly eyes of his..

canzano55
01-07-2014, 08:40 PM
Amir missing point-blank shots now??

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:43 PM
Man it's tough watching this team right now. Honestly, Indiana has only lost 1 home game this season so my expectations aren't the highest for this team right now.

deaner
01-07-2014, 08:44 PM
Canzano in the house. We are screwed.

ACanadian
01-07-2014, 08:46 PM
Have we finally returned to Earth? Good, let's get this tank rolling.

Tmath
01-07-2014, 08:46 PM
Indiana is making tough shots. I still believe we will keep it close.

deaner
01-07-2014, 08:46 PM
Have we finally returned to Earth? Good, let's get this tank rolling.

Game thread

Tmath
01-07-2014, 08:46 PM
Have we finally returned to Earth? Good, let's get this tank rolling.

Sha dap!

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 08:51 PM
Imagine hinrich leading this second unit.

IloveTheRaptors
01-07-2014, 08:51 PM
dammmn Vasquez faked me with that pass lol

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:51 PM
OH WHAT A PASS! Man he faked me out.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 08:52 PM
Of course that was a great pass

canzano55
01-07-2014, 08:55 PM
Can anyone in this league dunk on Hibbert?

MrSoFreshSoClea
01-07-2014, 08:57 PM
jermaine o'neal

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 08:59 PM
Can anyone in this league dunk on Hibbert?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBTA2V1sFQU

Tmath
01-07-2014, 09:01 PM
Hibbert gets away with so much.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 09:01 PM
This is great fun
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/elo.cgi

Tmath
01-07-2014, 09:02 PM
Tony Brothers...

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:02 PM
I ****in hate Stephenson. Such a ****in hack.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:02 PM
We can't get anything in the paint with Hibbert in there.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:02 PM
Hibbert gets away with so much.

LBJ called out the league on Hibbert's "verticality" rule too.

Nick O
01-07-2014, 09:02 PM
better get a fine

Nick O
01-07-2014, 09:03 PM
lol kyle flops right back

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:03 PM
Stephenson is a dirty player man.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 09:03 PM
Mike Bibby? Or DICK VAN ARSDALE?

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:04 PM
All else considered, how are we only down by 6 lol.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:04 PM
Misses all three free throws...GTFO

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:04 PM
Just woke up from a nap to find Lowry missing all 3 FTA's

Nick O
01-07-2014, 09:05 PM
damn kyle

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:06 PM
What an ugly 1st half.

Sly Guy
01-07-2014, 09:06 PM
we look dead on our feet, I'm surprised we're still as close as we are.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:12 PM
Judging from the score, I didn't miss much in that half lol

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:13 PM
& we gotta play tm too, **** we could be looking at a 3 game losing streak.

pulzar
01-07-2014, 09:14 PM
That was pretty ugly to watch... it felt a lot like the old Gay games -- a lot of solo efforts.

IloveTheRaptors
01-07-2014, 09:21 PM
Just woke up from a nap to find Lowry missing all 3 FTA's go back to sleep lol

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:24 PM
nice, raps showing life now

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:25 PM
good defense by ross

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:26 PM
Raps don't have enough so it seems.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:26 PM
Jesus - Val needs to go to "post-up school".

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:28 PM
**** these refs man.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:29 PM
Tony Brothers to the rescue

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:29 PM
they look tired. But may be they gotta another 4th quarter push in them. they gotta keep this under 10 this quarter

Tmath
01-07-2014, 09:30 PM
West is such a meat head

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:32 PM
slipping away....damn turnovers

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:32 PM
Lol here come the Raptors of old.

pulzar
01-07-2014, 09:33 PM
Blowout :(

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:34 PM
Slowly getting choked out

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:34 PM
Tony Brothers likes Derozan, hates everybody else.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:34 PM
This game is PAINFUL to watch.

deaner
01-07-2014, 09:34 PM
Hi canzano. Nah... We don't blame you at ALL.

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:36 PM
bad shots...

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 09:37 PM
Christ we look bad

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:38 PM
Christ we look bad

Pacers making it ugly.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:38 PM
Hi canzano. Nah... We don't blame you at ALL.Maybe I won't watch the 4th...

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:39 PM
DeMar and1!

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:39 PM
Come on Derozan, put us on your back like a superstar.

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:40 PM
damn turnovers

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:41 PM
hibbert is going wild

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:41 PM
Those O boards are killing us

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:42 PM
We can't play defence or offence tonight. ****ing travel woes.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:42 PM
Our front court has sucked today.

Badly.

Brailleman
01-07-2014, 09:43 PM
Jonas help defense on the last few plays looked super lazy and horrible. He was in good situations to alter shots but chose not to move his feet and just put his hands straight up 6 feet away.

Jamiecballer
01-07-2014, 09:47 PM
Jonas help defense on the last few plays looked super lazy and horrible. He was in good situations to alter shots but chose not to move his feet and just put his hands straight up 6 feet away.

I don't understand what the Raptors issue is with Mario

Tmath
01-07-2014, 09:48 PM
Too bad Demar was the only one that decided to show up.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:48 PM
Derozan has half our pts pretty much lmao

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:48 PM
DeMar, Lowry and Patteson are the only players doing anything

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:50 PM
This solo Demar offense sucks.

Our frontcourt has had great looks but they have botched everything while Hibbert pads his defensive stats.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:51 PM
Derozan 17 pts in the 3rd

bucketss
01-07-2014, 09:52 PM
****ing hayes

bucketss
01-07-2014, 09:53 PM
smh wow missing easy shots here.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:53 PM
Can't buy a basket.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:54 PM
**** my eyeeees

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:55 PM
This unit was knocking on the door, but that 4 point play ends anything positive they were doing

canzano55
01-07-2014, 09:55 PM
Vasquez can **** right off.

killersweet
01-07-2014, 09:56 PM
tough game to watch

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:58 PM
They didn't count that bucket?

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:58 PM
Man we could have cut it to like 6 pts if we didn't miss all of those easy shots.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 09:58 PM
They didn't count that bucket?

Foul was before.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 09:59 PM
Vasquez can **** right off.

He's been the worst of the Kings' players we acquired (Hayes doesn't qualify)

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:00 PM
Well, this game reinforces the fact that we are only good when we show up as a team and everybody plays hard.

But, man, it's an ugly game.

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:00 PM
Nice D from Ross there, though.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 10:01 PM
Get DeMar out there!!

Tmath
01-07-2014, 10:01 PM
Raps are fighting. Got to give em credit.

killersweet
01-07-2014, 10:04 PM
great defense by the raps...scola getting stripped like krazy

deaner
01-07-2014, 10:04 PM
If only canzano would turn this game off! We'd have a shot.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 10:05 PM
Raps are fighting. Got to give em credit.Yeah but they constantly shoot themselves in the foot all the time.

They work so hard to manufacture turnovers so GV can jack three's...

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:05 PM
Raps are fighting. Got to give em credit.

Meh. They've slowed things down so much that Pacers are starting to fall asleep, too. The quarter is half-done, and it's 8-4.

kenzo400
01-07-2014, 10:06 PM
Why the **** does he still have this **** lineup in? Its 6 minuets till the end of fourth! We could have capitalized on so many opportunities in this quarter if he had the right lineup in.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:07 PM
Wow Valanciunas is getting no calls this game.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:08 PM
Omg refs.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 10:08 PM
Val can't catch a break today.

8 boards and zero points.

bucketss
01-07-2014, 10:09 PM
its funny watching vasquez dribble.

bucketss
01-07-2014, 10:11 PM
no foul for lowry?

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:12 PM
yes! I know it's futile but good fight.

bucketss
01-07-2014, 10:12 PM
nice run but probably not enough time left.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 10:13 PM
Where the **** was the foul?

killersweet
01-07-2014, 10:13 PM
raps still battling hard......some tough breaks

Tmath
01-07-2014, 10:13 PM
Refs killed this game. Indiana are overrated. They get way too much respect from the refs.

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:14 PM
tony f'n brothers! have the raps ever won a game with this douche? guy should be fired by now!

killersweet
01-07-2014, 10:14 PM
raps have done a real good job on George......

kenzo400
01-07-2014, 10:14 PM
Where the **** was the foul?

Apparently falling in front of the defender when you don't have the ball is a perfect strategy to getting a foul call lol

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:16 PM
j val deserved better today.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:17 PM
How we're down by only 6 I don't know.

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:18 PM
lowry missing all three of those f/t in the 2nd quarter man...that was a momentum killer...

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:18 PM
Lance Stephenson chasing for that triple double. Honestly players like him are so annoying

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:19 PM
come on lowry wtf

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
Lance Stephenson chasing for that triple double. Honestly players like him are so annoying

lucky season....

killersweet
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
How we're down by only 6 I don't know.

some unreal defense by the raptors. Indi really struggled with offence in the 2nd half

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
****ing tear-drops. Both Lowry and Vasquez have thrown so many of those and have missed so many of them... it's such a low-percentage shot.

Just stop and jump up and shoot.

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
thats game.

Sly Guy
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
raps getting some kind calls down the stretch.

bucketss
01-07-2014, 10:20 PM
boy george is overrated.

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:21 PM
****ing tear-drops. Both Lowry and Vasquez have thrown so many of those and have missed so many of them... it's such a low-percentage shot.

Just stop and jump up and shoot.

agreed just go hard to the net and try to draw defenders or the foul.

canzano55
01-07-2014, 10:21 PM
Yeah that's game.

Didn't like that garbage Lowry floater earlier but he played ok today.

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:22 PM
Well, we actually made it a game at the end. Too bad we messed up quite a few things in the last couple of minutes :(, it would've been almost a tie game now. Instead, it's over :(.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:22 PM
boy george is overrated.

He thinks he's better then he is.

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 10:22 PM
Too bad they couldn't control that jump ball

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:23 PM
It's time's like these where you wish Derozan was a good 3pt. shooter.

Sanyo
01-07-2014, 10:23 PM
if lowry hit those three free throws...hell even 2 of 3 it would be a 4 point game and a whole different ballgame

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:24 PM
We need Ross back for Salmons... we need some 3s

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:25 PM
Wtf!

GodsSon
01-07-2014, 10:25 PM
That's game

canzano55
01-07-2014, 10:26 PM
Wtf!29 seconds and they're down 5 - the game was over after that stupid floater Lowry put up in the lane earlier so it doesn't matter that DD put up that crap three.

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:27 PM
Lol, what a finish.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:27 PM
Honestly though, if those 4 back 2 back scoring chances we had were pts we could have won this game lol.

kenzo400
01-07-2014, 10:28 PM
You can tell experience is a huge advantage for the Pacers. They work to find the smallest amount of free space for jump shooters. That kind of efficient basketball movement can only come with time. The fact that the Raptors held on the whole game is quite amazing. Good game.

kenzo400
01-07-2014, 10:29 PM
Honestly though, if those 4 back 2 back scoring chances we had were pts we could have won this game lol.

Or if the starting lineup was brought back in the 10th minute in fourth instead of the fifth lol I know i'm, being overly critical and you can't expect perfection every game. Still though, if Casey can just fix some of these rotations, then this team can be really strong.

killersweet
01-07-2014, 10:29 PM
tomorrow is a real test. A good team will bounce back and beat the pistons. I expect a better effort from the raps tomorrow.

pulzar
01-07-2014, 10:29 PM
29 seconds and they're down 5 - the game was over after that stupid floater Lowry put up in the lane earlier so it doesn't matter that DD put up that crap three.

Yeah, but still, you'd think somebody would draw up a play that's not Derozan ISO 3 :).

Tmath
01-07-2014, 10:31 PM
Meh. We played 2 of the best teams, in 3 games, and went 1-2. We played terrible today and still managed to keep it close.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:32 PM
Or if the starting lineup was brought back in the 10th minute in fourth instead of the fifth lol I know i'm, being overly critical and you can't expect perfection every game. Still though, if Casey can just fix some of these rotations, then this team can be really strong.

Well we have a game tm so you don't want to tire the team out completely in a game where we probably weren't going to win.

jsumadchat
01-07-2014, 10:34 PM
tomorrow is a real test. A good team will bounce back and beat the pistons. I expect a better effort from the raps tomorrow.

i cant question their effort. they cut the lead and had multiple chances in situations where the momentum was shifting. mia did it to us, and indy neutralized us from doing it to them. that is what good teams do. again, the effort was there all night, you could just tell they were exhausted early. only dude i had any question about tonight was amir. he was sloppy all night.

jsumadchat
01-07-2014, 10:35 PM
Meh. We played 2 of the best teams, in 3 games, and went 1-2. We played terrible today and still managed to keep it close.

preach. still have a nice cushion on the division and still only 1 game back of ATL

bucketss
01-07-2014, 10:35 PM
He thinks he's better then he is.

some guy in the nba forum said him and lebron are on the same level Lol.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:35 PM
Our schedule eases up for the rest of the month too. This next stretch of 10 or so games will really define in which direction this team is headed.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:37 PM
some guy in the nba forum said him and lebron are on the same level Lol.

People are so quick to put anybody they can on LBJ's level. Remember when Rose won the most underserving MVP of all time & people were saying he's on the same level or better than LBJ? lol

jsumadchat
01-07-2014, 10:38 PM
Our schedule eases up for the rest of the month too. This next stretch of 10 or so games will really define in which direction this team is headed.

i'd say 10 of the next 13 games are WINNABLE. if they can keep up their level of play, it should be possible.

jsumadchat
01-07-2014, 10:39 PM
People are so quick to put anybody they can on LBJ's level. Remember when Rose won the most underserving MVP of all time & people were saying he's on the same level or better than LBJ? lol

i have hated on lebron with a vengeance since leaving CLE. but nowadays its just impossible. no one can touch lebron in any facet of his overall game. in terms of impact on the game, theres literally lebron, then the rest.

mjt20mik
01-07-2014, 10:45 PM
Harsh loss. Hopefully the guys can bounce back tomorrow. Since I am heading out of the country for a month, I won't be able to post on here. Here's hoping they go on a nice run with the upcoming easier schedule.

Cheers guys

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 10:47 PM
i have hated on lebron with a vengeance since leaving CLE. but nowadays its just impossible. no one can touch lebron in any facet of his overall game. in terms of impact on the game, theres literally lebron, then the rest.

When its all said & done he'll be in the discussion of GOAT with MJ & Kareem.

jsumadchat
01-07-2014, 10:54 PM
When its all said & done he'll be in the discussion of GOAT with MJ & Kareem.

im already there. i was fortunate enough to be able to actually watch jordan play for a bunch of years and although i feel like i will never put LBJ over him, the comparison is easily becoming more and more valid.

NBA_Starter
01-07-2014, 11:00 PM
How did Hibbert and West only have 2 fouls?

bucketss
01-07-2014, 11:07 PM
How did Hibbert and West only have 2 fouls?

refs always lets pacers be more physical.

gwrighter
01-07-2014, 11:08 PM
How did Hibbert and West only have 2 fouls?

Tony. Brothers.

North Yorker
01-07-2014, 11:47 PM
How did Hibbert and West only have 2 fouls?

Our bigs for the most part shot jumpers or runners away from the rim instead of attacking them.

koreancabbage
01-08-2014, 12:35 AM
Lance Stephenson chasing for that triple double. Honestly players like him are so annoying

contract year

SA5195
01-08-2014, 01:10 AM
We need to get back on the W streak, Wizards and Bulls are right behind us

GodsSon
01-08-2014, 01:22 AM
It sure feels like we're in no-man's land, doesn't it?

We're at the point where we can STILL decide to go either direction as we're only 4 wins ahead of a bottom 5 record.

I still don't see Lowry being on this roster past the trade deadline.

LanceUpperCut
01-08-2014, 08:28 AM
It sure feels like we're in no-man's land, doesn't it?

We're at the point where we can STILL decide to go either direction as we're only 4 wins ahead of a bottom 5 record.

I still don't see Lowry being on this roster past the trade deadline.

Not at all, why cause we lost to the Heat and Indy on the road. These loses were expected no matter how good of a team were becoming. I see us passing ATL and making some ground against the rest of the east now with the lighter sch.

I could also see us making a series against Indy. Not Miami really but we could possible upset Indy.

bartron_44
01-08-2014, 10:21 AM
We played pretty darn well overall these past 2 games. If we simply knock down our FT's that Miami game was within reach, and we played Indiana extremely tough in their building...where only 1 team has been able to knock them off this year. We played another game of solid defense, we just ran into the best defensive team in the league. The Raptors are playing the kind of defense that will keep them in every game. They aren't going to win every game, but they are going to have a chance. Ross and JV each played over 30 minutes and shot a combined 2 for 14 from the field. That isn't going to happen very often... but we need to remember they are 2 second year players who didn't exactly get to play 30 mpg in their rookie seasons to speed up their development. This is the kind of defense they are going to see from good teams if they make the playoffs, so it it should have been a good learning experience for them.

killersweet
01-08-2014, 10:38 AM
i cant question their effort. they cut the lead and had multiple chances in situations where the momentum was shifting. mia did it to us, and indy neutralized us from doing it to them. that is what good teams do. again, the effort was there all night, you could just tell they were exhausted early. only dude i had any question about tonight was amir. he was sloppy all night.

I should have said overall effort. Because they weren't playing well in the first half. They were sleep walking. 2nd half was much better for sure. Especially the 2nd unit played some really good defense forcing Pacers offence to struggle mightily. I want to see the raptors to blow out the pistons tonight. That would be a nice bounce back.

Sly Guy
01-08-2014, 10:48 AM
gonna be tough to bounce back tonight. The guys are exhausted, I'm sure travelling again today and playing tonight won't make this one any easier. Their delay in Miami has made these 2 games brutal for us.

deaner
01-08-2014, 11:50 AM
gonna be tough to bounce back tonight. The guys are exhausted, I'm sure travelling again today and playing tonight won't make this one any easier. Their delay in Miami has made these 2 games brutal for us.

Not an excuse to me. It's a chartered plane, they didn't ride bikes to Miami. Detroit has played some tough games too. Although I don't think they try very hard.

gwrighter
01-08-2014, 12:32 PM
Not an excuse to me. It's a chartered plane, they didn't ride bikes to Miami. Detroit has played some tough games too. Although I don't think they try very hard.

Routine is a big part of being a pro athlete. To prepare your body to play at the highest level takes a tremendous amount of physical and mental preparation. I hope they can come out at home and the crowd can lift them to victory.

killersweet
01-08-2014, 12:56 PM
Routine is a big part of being a pro athlete. To prepare your body to play at the highest level takes a tremendous amount of physical and mental preparation. I hope they can come out at home and the crowd can lift them to victory.

Pistons are on a b2b as well. So that should help the raps.

gwrighter
01-08-2014, 01:48 PM
Pistons are on a b2b as well. So that should help the raps.

Yup, hopefully they're tired. Supposedly their defence isn't very good either.