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metswon69
12-29-2013, 03:55 PM
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I gave Talbot some love in December but this is the Lundqvist we need back in 2014. Tough schedule in the month of January with plenty of divisional games and some big games against Western Conference teams. Need to gain some momentum.

In February, I'll do IGTs with there only being 4 games on the schedule.

Oh yeah Happy New Year everyone and LGR :).

SLY WILLIAMS
01-01-2014, 11:17 AM
LOL Mets, Thanks for the gif. I do not usually look at things like that but that one certainly caught my eye!!! :D

We are over 500!!!


Lets have a great 2014!!!

Yankee Clipper
01-01-2014, 11:35 AM
LOL Mets, Thanks for the gif. I do not usually look at things like that but that one certainly caught my eye!!! :D

We are over 500!!!

Lets have a great 2014!!!

:clap:

The Winter Classic is today!

SLY WILLIAMS
01-01-2014, 11:45 AM
:clap:

The Winter Classic is today!

Oh man thanks for reminding me. That slipped my mind. Do we have two outdoor games as well?

IAmARanger18
01-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Way to end 2013 on a good note! Won 4/5 and are now over .500

IAmARanger18
01-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Oh man thanks for reminding me. That slipped my mind. Do we have two outdoor games as well?

26th and 29th at Yankee Stadium.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-01-2014, 01:16 PM
26th and 29th at Yankee Stadium.

Awesome!!!

Redfish
01-01-2014, 01:40 PM
We have 6 games this month versus teams we will be battling against for a playoff spot. I'd say it could be the most important month of the season for the Rangers, as those 6 games are all "4 point" swing games. It may also dictate how we exit the trade deadline in February; will we be buyers, sellers, looking for a rental?

What an opportune time for Hank to hopefully find his game.

Yankee Clipper
01-01-2014, 01:41 PM
We have 6 games this month versus teams we will be battling against for a playoff spot. I'd say it could be the most important month of the season for the Rangers, as those 6 games are all "4 point" swing games. It may also dictate how we exit the trade deadline in February; will we be buyers, sellers, looking for a rental?

What an opportune time for Hank to hopefully find his game.

This is a huge stretch for this team. They really need to take advantage of stretches like this when they are basically playing teams they are neck and neck with in consecutive games.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-01-2014, 01:55 PM
We have 6 games this month versus teams we will be battling against for a playoff spot. I'd say it could be the most important month of the season for the Rangers, as those 6 games are all "4 point" swing games. It may also dictate how we exit the trade deadline in February; will we be buyers, sellers, looking for a rental?

What an opportune time for Hank to hopefully find his game.

That is a really good point. I think if we can win 4 out of 6 games we should be in good shape. Some trades I would consider regardless of playoff seating because some guys will not be here next season and do not have a huge effect on the team.


This is a huge stretch for this team. They really need to take advantage of stretches like this when they are basically playing teams they are neck and neck with in consecutive games.

Yeah Red was right. I did not realize how this month would break down. We need wins in these head to head games. Hopefully at least 8 points out of those 12 possible points. I do not think we will have many guys in the Olympics so hopefully the rest of our guys will stay sharp and healthy during the break.

Yankee Clipper
01-01-2014, 02:04 PM
Yeah Red was right. I did not realize how this month would break down. We need wins in these head to head games. Hopefully at least 8 points out of those 12 possible points. I do not think we will have many guys in the Olympics so hopefully the rest of our guys will stay sharp and healthy during the break.

:nod: Yes let's hope so.

ShadyOne
01-02-2014, 08:31 PM
We have 6 games this month versus teams we will be battling against for a playoff spot. I'd say it could be the most important month of the season for the Rangers, as those 6 games are all "4 point" swing games. It may also dictate how we exit the trade deadline in February; will we be buyers, sellers, looking for a rental?

What an opportune time for Hank to hopefully find his game.

I don't see us being "sellers" no matter what happens. I'd bet any deal that helps us in the future, and fits AV's style will happen regardless. With a lot of changes coming in the offseason regardless of the outcome of this season, I don't think anything will be off-limits. Other than McDonagh getting dealt, nothing would shock me. Would be mildly surprised if we don't make at least one deal for an offensive player..

IAmARanger18
01-03-2014, 12:47 PM
You guys know Pyatt scores tonight LOL It's only fitting

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 01:24 PM
You guys know Pyatt scores tonight LOL It's only fitting

LOL i was wondering if he would be dressing for the game

bsi
01-03-2014, 01:28 PM
Callahan in, Miller, DelZotto and Faulk scratched.

Lines for tonight

Hagelin-Richards-Zuccarello
Kreider-Stepan-Nash
Pouliot-Brassard-Callahan
Boyle-DMoore-Dorsett.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 01:49 PM
I have always like Mats playing with Kreider or Hags so I'm okay with those lines. Last season I always wanted to see 3 real lines. These look like 3 real lines even though there is no real #1 line.

Is it crazy that I would rather Miller play on the 4th line than sit in the box?

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 04:42 PM
I have always like Mats playing with Kreider or Hags so I'm okay with those lines. Last season I always wanted to see 3 real lines. These look like 3 real lines even though there is no real #1 line.

Is it crazy that I would rather Miller play on the 4th line than sit in the box?

If you arent going to play him all the time leave him in the A to get first line minutes

ShadyOne
01-03-2014, 06:57 PM
I have always like Mats playing with Kreider or Hags so I'm okay with those lines. Last season I always wanted to see 3 real lines. These look like 3 real lines even though there is no real #1 line.

Is it crazy that I would rather Miller play on the 4th line than sit in the box?

I wouldn't mind playing Zuc with Callahan. Zuc is usually good for a few nice setups to teammates in front of the net, and Cally has always had good hands, putting pucks in up close.

Also wouldn't mind Miller playing, either Moore or Boyle wouldn't be missed IMO

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 07:19 PM
I wouldn't mind playing Zuc with Callahan. Zuc is usually good for a few nice setups to teammates in front of the net, and Cally has always had good hands, putting pucks in up close.

Also wouldn't mind Miller playing, either Moore or Boyle wouldn't be missed IMO

Cally has had some good shifts with Mats but some were on the PP. The reason why I think AV went with Hags is that Hags is a natural LW. This way he leaves Cally and Mats on RW.

NYSPORTS98
01-03-2014, 08:05 PM
Both the Dallas Cowboys and Pittsburgh Penguins share a room of sport hate in my heart. :mad:

:fight: Lets Go Rangers!!!!!!!

metswon69
01-03-2014, 08:34 PM
Undisciplined penalty by Nash. Can't have that against Pittsburgh and their PP. Ugh 1-0 :(

notoriousbig21
01-03-2014, 08:45 PM
Both the Dallas Cowboys and Pittsburgh Penguins share a room of sport hate in my heart. :mad:

:fight: Lets Go Rangers!!!!!!!

watch yourself. :p

notoriousbig21
01-03-2014, 08:45 PM
Watching PIT is like watching a team on a whole different level...because they are on another level.

fingerbang
01-03-2014, 08:52 PM
Something is wrong with Nash's shot. My grandmother can fire a wrister faster than that.

notoriousbig21
01-03-2014, 08:53 PM
lol

does anyone know what times the games will be at in sochi? i am guessing like between 7am and 1 pm-ish eastern time?

notoriousbig21
01-03-2014, 08:55 PM
what is up with burke's beef with bobby ryan?

fingerbang
01-03-2014, 09:00 PM
The idiots in charge of team USA let a reporter document the whole process and naturally a guy who was snubbed is butthurt over it. The worst part is they didn't even do that great of a job covering the selections.

notoriousbig21
01-03-2014, 09:07 PM
Oh boy this could get ugly.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 09:27 PM
Typical Crosby taking a shot at someone while he has a man on him and down on the ice

bsi
01-03-2014, 09:29 PM
We even need size against pitsburgh..something has to give.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 09:31 PM
Even the pens announcers just said it. It's not like the Pens have to worry about someone on the rangers getting in their face if they do anything.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 09:32 PM
We even need size against pitsburgh..something has to give.

We do need some size and some toughness. But truth is these guys aren't skating they just look flat

J4KOP99
01-03-2014, 09:32 PM
And this is why I Didn't get excited over a few semi decent wins.

This is not a good team. There are massive holes on this roster.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 09:38 PM
Good job Richards

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 09:40 PM
And this is why I Didn't get excited over a few semi decent wins.

This is not a good team. There are massive holes on this roster.

I'm tired of the inconsistency from game to game. I'm ready for this roster to be retooled.

NYSPORTS98
01-03-2014, 09:41 PM
Joks falls on top of Lundy and no Ranger does anything. If that was Brodeur, the Devils would go nuts.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 09:57 PM
Joks falls on top of Lundy and no Ranger does anything. If that was Brodeur, the Devils would go nuts.

Like they said on the away feed. WHO

bsi
01-03-2014, 09:57 PM
Joks falls on top of Lundy and no Ranger does anything. If that was Brodeur, the Devils would go nuts.

A minute ago Crosby was pushing Brassard around for the very same thing. Why do these players care so little, its amazing. I know Pitsburgh is a top 4 team in the league but that should motivate them to play harder but they dont. It might be time for a culture change here, the team is lifeless when it comes to rough stuff.

Yankee Clipper
01-03-2014, 09:58 PM
Losing to a far, far superior team tonight. Plain and simple.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:01 PM
Losing to a far, far superior team tonight. Plain and simple.

Losing is one thing when you try and get beat. They just rolled over and took it. No heart at all

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:04 PM
How is that not interference. Hags dumps it in and it going after it with speed and gets hit

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:08 PM
John Moore just got ran the eff over. And cally has to be the man since nobody else can

NYY09
01-03-2014, 10:08 PM
So Cally is the one who goes over to send a message? (after the J.Moore hit) :pity:

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:12 PM
So Cally is the one who goes over to send a message? (after the J.Moore hit)

Well Dorset is already out. So who is can do it?

fingerbang
01-03-2014, 10:14 PM
Oh man and Moore was the one trying to throw the hit.

Staal is like the little kid from Freddy Got Fingered that's always getting hurt.

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:16 PM
Nice work by Brassard, great shot by Zucs

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:17 PM
Oh man and Moore was the one trying to throw the hit.

Staal is like the little kid from Freddy Got Fingered that's always getting hurt.

Hilarious but true haha

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 10:19 PM
Nice work by Brassard, great shot by Zucs

I missed the game tonight.

How was Lundy?

What was Mats goal like?

Who played well?

Who played badly?

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:21 PM
Oh man and Moore was the one trying to throw the hit.

Staal is like the little kid from Freddy Got Fingered that's always getting hurt.

Sad but true man. Maybe all these FA and RFA's at the same time is a blessing to remake this roster

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:22 PM
I missed the game tonight.

How was Lundy?

What was Mats goal like?

Who played well?

Who played badly?


They have all played heartless. Hank wasn't bad but has had no help

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:23 PM
And just as I say it they score lol

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:23 PM
Nice work by Brassard, great shot by Zucs

I missed the game tonight.

How was Lundy?

What was Mats goal like?

Who played well?

Who played badly?

Lundy is fine

Mats goal was nice, quick hard shot.

NOBODY but McDonagh and the Brass Pou Zucc line deserve any kind of credit tonight.

Everyone needs a kick in the pants, bunch of overpaid spoiled kids. Nash is playing scared. Stepan is trying to make it to Sochhi healthy.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:25 PM
You can see after that goal how frustrated hank really is

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:26 PM
Stralman wasnt near rough enough with Crosby

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:28 PM
Hilarious but true haha

And staal assisted on the last goal.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 10:33 PM
Lundy is fine

Mats goal was nice, quick hard shot.

NOBODY but McDonagh and the Brass Pou Zucc line deserve any kind of credit tonight.

Everyone needs a kick in the pants, bunch of overpaid spoiled kids. Nash is playing scared. Stepan is trying to make it to Sochhi healthy.

It may be time to start trading the guys that are paid large $$$ but not showing up.

Glad to hear Mats had a nice goal.

I'm glad to hear Lundy is fine but for some reason I'm still worried about his game this year.

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:38 PM
Lundy is fine

Mats goal was nice, quick hard shot.

NOBODY but McDonagh and the Brass Pou Zucc line deserve any kind of credit tonight.

Everyone needs a kick in the pants, bunch of overpaid spoiled kids. Nash is playing scared. Stepan is trying to make it to Sochhi healthy.

It may be time to start trading the guys that are paid large $$$ but not showing up.

Glad to hear Mats had a nice goal.

I'm glad to hear Lundy is fine but for some reason I'm still worried about his game this year.

Right now Pouliot is better than Nash at a 1/7 of the cost.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 10:38 PM
Get Boyle off this team now. He is the softest 4th line player ever.

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:39 PM
Get Boyle off this team now. He is the softest 4th line player ever.

We should have gotten Konopka. Boyle is as good as gone anyway

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 10:40 PM
Right now Id be listening to offers for almost every player that makes more than 2 mill and a couple that do not.

Redfish
01-03-2014, 10:43 PM
Richards has been auditioning for his next team all season; shoots whenever possible; plays high risk puck posession and mediocre defense -- it's very disheartening to see a respected veteran play so selfishly. The team, collectively, is soft. Zuccarella is competing night in, night out and is the leader on this team right now (on the ice at least), whereas Nash is too often playing pond hockey. Absolutely no emotion and passion from this team on too many nights.

As feared early in the season when we were all cautioned to simply "wait for the 20 game mark" there is a big disconnect between how AV is coaching this team, and how the players are performing. Well, Sather responded to some player complaints at end of last season and replaced the coach. The next shoe to drop this year will be a wholesale restructuring of the roster. Another Sather 3 year plan.

Big divisional game tomorrow evening; win or lose, let's hope we get a good effort for 60 minutes.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 10:47 PM
I can not even imagine what this teams record would be without McD, Mats, Hagelin, and Kreider this season.

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:49 PM
I can not even imagine what this teams record would be without McD, Mats, Hagelin, and Kreider this season.

Add Richards and Talbot to that too...the rest have been mediocre to bad.

notoriousbig21
01-03-2014, 10:51 PM
.500 team

NYY09
01-03-2014, 10:52 PM
So curious to see what the team does at the deadline....

bsi
01-03-2014, 10:54 PM
I would trade Nash now, he isnt aggressive enough anymore since the concussions and if a guy with his size and speed isnt aggressive then he is only going to be moderately effective like he is now. Maybe a new player on that line helps Stepan as well.

Redfish
01-03-2014, 10:54 PM
Add Richards and Talbot to that too...the rest have been mediocre to bad.

Richards hasn't been good the past ~20 games. As the season wears on, his performance will wane. He has officially entered the "Chris Drury" zone where he is no better than a 3rd line player on his best nights; and offers situational contributions (power play, face-offs) only on most.

Yankee Clipper
01-03-2014, 10:58 PM
Right now Id be listening to offers for almost every player that makes more than 2 mill and a couple that do not.

Bingo.

fingerbang
01-03-2014, 11:03 PM
If they're going to get talented enough to hang with teams like Pitt and Chicago they better not sell low.

bsi
01-03-2014, 11:03 PM
Add Richards and Talbot to that too...the rest have been mediocre to bad.

Richards hasn't been good the past ~20 games. As the season wears on, his performance will wane. He has officially entered the "Chris Drury" zone where he is no better than a 3rd line player on his best nights; and offers situational contributions (power play, face-offs) only on most.

I am not arguing to keep him if thats what you are thinking, was saying we would be bottom of the league without his contributions early on and on the PP along with the contribution of a handful of players.

Redfish
01-03-2014, 11:04 PM
Dorsett out 4-6 weeks with broken fibula.

bsi
01-03-2014, 11:04 PM
If they're going to get talented enough to hang with teams like Pitt and Chicago they better not sell low.

My thinking with Nash is that this is as high as he is gonna be anymore as he is playing scared or even worse gets hurt again.

bsi
01-03-2014, 11:05 PM
Dorsett out 4-6 weeks with broken fibula.

Atleast Miller will get back in maybe.

Yankee Clipper
01-03-2014, 11:06 PM
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SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 11:08 PM
Brad played over 5 minutes of our 6 minutes in PP tonight. I do not know if that is good or bad.

Looking at the teams stats you would think the Rangers won. More shots, hits, face off wins, less turnovers, more takeaways, etc.

Redfish
01-03-2014, 11:11 PM
I am not arguing to keep him if thats what you are thinking, was saying we would be bottom of the league without his contributions early on and on the PP along with the contribution of a handful of players.

Oh ok, I got it, thanks.

bsi
01-03-2014, 11:12 PM
Brad played over 5 minutes of our 6 minutes in PP tonight. I do not know if that is good or bad.

Looking at the teams stats you would think the Rangers won. More shots, hits, face off wins, less turnovers, more takeaways, etc.

Our best players werent our best and theirs were.

fingerbang
01-03-2014, 11:13 PM
My thinking with Nash is that this is as high as he is gonna be anymore as he is playing scared or even worse gets hurt again.]

Maybe. I would guess that this is a low point in his career and I'd be surprised if he didn't pick it up again. I'm all for trading him bc of his salary but I won't support it if there isn 't a good return.

Redfish
01-03-2014, 11:14 PM
Atleast Miller will get back in maybe.

That was my initial reaction as well, and I'd like to see Miller back in the lineup. But I was wondering if the Rangers opt for calling up Haley instead to replace the type of game Dorsett offers.

Personally, I would waive Dominic Moore; and call-up both Miller and Haley to play with Boyle (until I trade Boyle sometime next month around trade deadline day).

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 11:15 PM
Richards hasn't been good the past ~20 games. As the season wears on, his performance will wane. He has officially entered the "Chris Drury" zone where he is no better than a 3rd line player on his best nights; and offers situational contributions (power play, face-offs) only on most.

What ^ said.

NYY09
01-03-2014, 11:15 PM
Still find it funny how Zucc's couldn't find his way off the bench under Torts... :laugh2:

Redfish
01-03-2014, 11:18 PM
Still find it funny how Zucc's couldn't find his way off the bench under Torts... :laugh2:

But didn't Zucc become one of our best players toward the end of last season and during the playoffs? I actually think Torts' challenging demands of Zucc helped elevate his game to where it is today.

Truth be told, though, I am on a monthly plan for the Tortorella kool-aid. :)

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 11:20 PM
To hell with waiting for the deadline with certain players. Move some now. They are still in the mix for a playoff spot.

Boyle must go. He is playing on the checking line and doesn't check or fight.
Makes a few smaller moves first and see if those moves can spark this club.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 11:27 PM
But didn't Zucc become one of our best players toward the end of last season and during the playoffs? I actually think Torts' challenging demands of Zucc helped elevate his game to where it is today.

Truth be told, though, I am on a monthly plan for the Tortorella kool-aid. :)

Torts did start to play him more last season and in the playoffs.

Mats has made a huge move this season and I actually think AV playing him shorthanded played a significant role in his improvement. By playing Mats shorthanded I think it did 3 things.

1. Mats no longer had to sit 8-10 minutes in between some shifts.

2. It gave Mats confidence knowing the coach trusted him defensively.

3. It helped build up Mats skating legs even more.

Now AV plays Mats in all sorts of situations.

NYY09
01-03-2014, 11:32 PM
Dorsett out 4-6 weeks with broken fibula.

It's ok cuz we have plenty of guys with grit that throw their body around and fight, o wait.... :rolleyes:

NYY09
01-03-2014, 11:33 PM
Torts did start to play him more last season and in the playoffs.

Mats has made a huge move this season and I actually think AV playing him shorthanded played a significant role in his improvement. By playing Mats shorthanded I think it did 3 things.

1. Mats no longer had to sit 8-10 minutes in between some shifts.

2. It gave Mats confidence knowing the coach trusted him defensively.

3. It helped build up Mats skating legs even more.

Now AV plays Mats in all sorts of situations.

So I guess the guy won the MVP of the SEL league for a reason...?

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 11:39 PM
So I guess the guy won the MVP of the SEL league for a reason...?

LOL you are preaching to the choir a bit because I'm a big Mats fan. If you go back and look at last seasons threads all season I wanted him to be with the team (when he was in the KHL). Then in the off-season I could not wait until he was re-signed. :)

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 11:39 PM
Torts did start to play him more last season and in the playoffs.

Mats has made a huge move this season and I actually think AV playing him shorthanded played a significant role in his improvement. By playing Mats shorthanded I think it did 3 things.

1. Mats no longer had to sit 8-10 minutes in between some shifts.

2. It gave Mats confidence knowing the coach trusted him defensively.

3. It helped build up Mats skating legs even more.

Now AV plays Mats in all sorts of situations.

He unlike many others has made a commitment to doing the little things. He finishes checks. Back checks. And plays big for his size. All the little things he wasn't doing so well before.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 11:45 PM
I did not see this game but let me ask you guys a question. Who played better in goal?

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 11:47 PM
@AGrossRecord:

Another post-game players' meeting after 5-2 loss to Penguins. This one to discuss poor start defensively. Too many turnovers.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 11:47 PM
I did not see this game but let me ask you guys a question. Who played better in goal?

Hank really wasn't bad. When they have up chances they were awful turnovers. And lots of rebound goals

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 11:48 PM
And to all now saying Richards is bad defensively. He has been that way his entire career. You can't have over 900 points and be a career minus player unless you are bad defensively

SLY WILLIAMS
01-03-2014, 11:51 PM
Hank really wasn't bad. When they have up chances they were awful turnovers. And lots of rebound goals

I understand but I'm curious was he better than Fleury?

bsi
01-03-2014, 11:52 PM
Fleury was pretty good, Hank wasnt bad, the goals werent his fault.

nyr2002nyr
01-03-2014, 11:56 PM
I understand but I'm curious was he better than Fleury?
Ehh not a fair ? The types of chances both faced were very different. Fleury didn't win the game for them. And hank didn't lose it for us.

nyr2002nyr
01-04-2014, 12:22 AM
AV said he is not sure who is playing goal tomorrow but that he will tell the goalies on the plane

bsi
01-04-2014, 12:23 AM
AV said he is not sure who is playing goal tomorrow but that he will tell the goalies on the plane

Pretty sure Talbot will be in otherwise Hank would have gotten pulled earlier in the game I think.

Redfish
01-04-2014, 10:27 AM
And to all now saying Richards is bad defensively. He has been that way his entire career. You can't have over 900 points and be a career minus player unless you are bad defensively

Can he be "more bad" ? I just see him playing a higher risk game with the puck than in recent years. The sooner we can off-load players that are dead wood and/or have no future with the team, the better off this club will be. When younger players see a veteran like Richards play a selfish game, it depletes the sacrifices teammates are willing to make. I thought Zuccarella's comment after the game was telling: "we didn't trust each other enough tonight defensively." That tells me guys were making wrong decisions because they didn't trust what their teammate was doing on the ice. It's not just Richards; don't get me wrong. It goes beyond him. But he is supposed to be a leader on this team.

bsi
01-04-2014, 11:48 AM
Surprisingly after a bad start Pouliot is one of our better players right now and a bargain at his salary. If he continues this what do you resign him for?

SLY WILLIAMS
01-04-2014, 01:11 PM
We need to get a defenseman or two with some snarl. Teams have no fear against our guys even though they have talent and can skate. We also need some toughness on that 4th line. If I was in charge I would be listening to offers for Nash, Cally, Brad, Boyle, Moore, and maybe even Stepan if the offer was large enough.

I did not see last nights game but I feel like Hank was not as good as the previous game based on what I have read and the possibility of Cam playing tonight. We need Hank to stand on his head like he has done for years.

J4KOP99
01-04-2014, 01:36 PM
Send nash to Detroit for abdelkader and the new young guy they recently brought up

NYY09
01-04-2014, 01:41 PM
This is on Sather, and always has been. Average at best minor league system with a patchwork big club, why does Sather still have a job? oh thats right, cuz big Jimbo is a clown and we all know that **** rolls downhill. In ANY successful company strength needs to come from the top and surely no one will confuse what this organization has at the top as "strength"...

SLY WILLIAMS
01-04-2014, 01:57 PM
I cant blame Slats for Nash because I like many fans wanted him as well. Ditto Richards. Ditto Gabs. I also can not blame anyone for Sauer, Staal, and Nash's concussions. While I do not blame the organization I do think a good organization would start making adjustments before it is too late. I think we did that with Gabs last season. If we resign Cally to a huge contract I will blame Slats. I'm also worried about the huge deal we just gave Hank. I wish the NHL would limit all contracts to 5 years but the players association might freak out.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-04-2014, 02:18 PM
I do not mean to sound negative or over react. We lose to Pit every year not just this year. Pit is a very good team.

NYY09
01-04-2014, 02:45 PM
I cant blame Slats for Nash because I like many fans wanted him as well. Ditto Richards. Ditto Gabs. I also can not blame anyone for Sauer, Staal, and Nash's concussions. While I do not blame the organization I do think a good organization would start making adjustments before it is too late. I think we did that with Gabs last season. If we resign Cally to a huge contract I will blame Slats. I'm also worried about the huge deal we just gave Hank. I wish the NHL would limit all contracts to 5 years but the players association might freak out.

Sorry Sly but I do blame Slats and not just for Nash or Richards but moves that go back over a decade in which time the aggregate has been an average to below-average team.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-04-2014, 03:18 PM
Sorry Sly but I do blame Slats and not just for Nash or Richards but moves that go back over a decade in which time the aggregate has been an average to below-average team.

You are not alone in those feelings. Many fans share your feelings. I feel like all GMs make mistakes but I usually agree with many (not all) of his moves. When we signed Richards I did not see many people complain. When we traded for Nash people were hopeful. I like that at least we attempt to get better and take chances rather than doing nothing. The team has had some good years since the original lockout. We only missed the playoffs one time. Very few teams can say that in the East.

bsi
01-04-2014, 03:57 PM
Sorry Sly but I do blame Slats and not just for Nash or Richards but moves that go back over a decade in which time the aggregate has been an average to below-average team.

The problem with hindsight is that it's easy to criticize.I was for the Nash trade, I thought we should have kept Dubinsky somehow as I thought he added grit, some scoring and was a guy that stuck up for his teamates and it rubbed off on everyone, however I was still for the trade. The problem with Nash has been the concussions, illegal hits that should never have happened. I don't fault Sather for this in any way except for the fact that we have no enforcer to deter anyone from making those hits. If there's a problem with the Nash trade it's that we didn't get someone to protect him, otherwise I have no problem with how he has performed outside of his concussion problems which I feel have contributed to his play this year.
I also, along with pretty near every GM in the league wanted Richards because our PP stunk, but as it turns out it wasn't the players as much as the coaching that made the PP stink. Now Richards wasn't bad since he got here, he had a bad year last year, and started strong this year but has faded again and maybe it's a product of our top 6 including players that probably don't belong there in the hopes of having 3 solid lines. If there's a problem with the Richards signing it's the way the contract was laid out and the way the new CBA targeted those types of deals.

Having said all that I could pick a dozen problems with the way Sather has done business, his assessment of the teams strengths and weaknesses and his inability to add the pieces we need instead of the shiny new free agent he covets. He never seems to have a plan in place for the team and trades players for players that we don't need. For example, we traded Gaborik last year for Moore( a d who we needed) and Brassard, another center on a team full of them with more in the minors, Miller and Lindberg as examples. We still don't have a bonifide strong LW to go on one of the top 2 lines, still don't have a big Dman to handle Lucic, Malkin, Neal types and we failed to either sign Lundqvist before the season started or let him wait while he struggled and signed him to a high end deal in the midst of his worst hockey ever. Add all that to the fact we have traded away picks that could have provided some of those players in the future. I personally think it's time to get a GM with a plan in place, Sather has made things interesting for the franchise over the years but he has failed and he has been given more rope than anyone else in the league, it's time for a change.

gokreidergo
01-04-2014, 04:45 PM
I really hate the way this team is built.

nyr1980
01-04-2014, 05:39 PM
The problem with hindsight is that it's easy to criticize.I was for the Nash trade, I thought we should have kept Dubinsky somehow as I thought he added grit, some scoring and was a guy that stuck up for his teamates and it rubbed off on everyone, however I was still for the trade. The problem with Nash has been the concussions, illegal hits that should never have happened. I don't fault Sather for this in any way except for the fact that we have no enforcer to deter anyone from making those hits. If there's a problem with the Nash trade it's that we didn't get someone to protect him, otherwise I have no problem with how he has performed outside of his concussion problems which I feel have contributed to his play this year.
I also, along with pretty near every GM in the league wanted Richards because our PP stunk, but as it turns out it wasn't the players as much as the coaching that made the PP stink. Now Richards wasn't bad since he got here, he had a bad year last year, and started strong this year but has faded again and maybe it's a product of our top 6 including players that probably don't belong there in the hopes of having 3 solid lines. If there's a problem with the Richards signing it's the way the contract was laid out and the way the new CBA targeted those types of deals.

Having said all that I could pick a dozen problems with the way Sather has done business, his assessment of the teams strengths and weaknesses and his inability to add the pieces we need instead of the shiny new free agent he covets. He never seems to have a plan in place for the team and trades players for players that we don't need. For example, we traded Gaborik last year for Moore( a d who we needed) and Brassard, another center on a team full of them with more in the minors, Miller and Lindberg as examples. We still don't have a bonifide strong LW to go on one of the top 2 lines, still don't have a big Dman to handle Lucic, Malkin, Neal types and we failed to either sign Lundqvist before the season started or let him wait while he struggled and signed him to a high end deal in the midst of his worst hockey ever. Add all that to the fact we have traded away picks that could have provided some of those players in the future. I personally think it's time to get a GM with a plan in place, Sather has made things interesting for the franchise over the years but he has failed and he has been given more rope than anyone else in the league, it's time for a change.

Sather has only been, overall, above average in his job. On a 1-10 scale, 10 being the best, I'd say he's been a 6. I think he will be stepping aside by the summer and they'll hire someone who has a long-term plan to improve the roster over several years. In fact, I sincerely hope that change in GM comes as they have a lot of UFA's, the probable Richards buyout, and probably significant cap space coming this summer.

I don't think it wise to trust Slats with a whole lot of money again, especially when the FA market this July won't be great.

I'd really like to see them make a few moves between now and the draft and acquire some picks. Roster needs to be rebuilt from within.

That being said, they are 4-2 in their last 6. While I don't think they have a chance at a deep playoff run, I am hopeful that they can hopefully hang around .500 and maybe put together a nice little hot streak. In their division, which has been surprisingly poor, that is entirely possible. And if they get in, and Hank gets hot and they do find more success in the system in front of him, you never know.

But that is contingent on their better players finding their respective games. Nash, Hank, and Step were their best players last season and all have grossly underperformed. And lets not forget Staal and Girardi. Both have been NHL All Stars and have not been very good or consistent this season. While I agree that Staal has had his game derailed by injuries and Girardi is not best suited for Vigneault's system, both of them are capable of playing much better than they have.

Really, it's under performance and inconsistency across the board, from back to front.

J4KOP99
01-04-2014, 08:26 PM
At least they have come out firing tn

nyr2002nyr
01-04-2014, 08:32 PM
How does Nash miss that empty net and nice tip by hags on the goal.

metswon69
01-04-2014, 08:48 PM
Playing hard and looking good tonight. Guess that players only meeting helped.

metswon69
01-04-2014, 09:48 PM
They are dominating tonight. Flat Toronto team but something about Talbot and Saturday nights.

metswon69
01-04-2014, 09:49 PM
Talbot can't stop everything. Good shot by Lupul.

J4KOP99
01-04-2014, 10:01 PM
The inconsistency is so damn frustrating. Last nights effort compared to this is night and day. Why is that?

nyr2002nyr
01-04-2014, 10:07 PM
The inconsistency is so damn frustrating. Last nights effort compared to this is night and day. Why is that?

I'm sure cally chewed the boys in the players only meeting but it shouldn't have to come to that.

MJL80
01-04-2014, 10:25 PM
honestly.... Henrik is our goalie, but we need to ride out Talbot's strong play as long as we can. Let him keep starting until the next game we get spanked and he gets pulled, next thing you know it'll be playoff time and we'll be battling for one of the last spots. Let Henrik find his game during the Olympic break

nyr2002nyr
01-04-2014, 10:29 PM
6 really 6 now they won't score next game lol

metswon69
01-04-2014, 10:47 PM
How do they call goaltender's interference on that play? Sympathy perhaps?

J4KOP99
01-04-2014, 10:47 PM
You know we will get shut out next game

metswon69
01-04-2014, 10:50 PM
You know we will get shut out next game

Against Columbus? I don't see it but against the Blackhawks on the road Wednesday, maybe lol.

MJL80
01-04-2014, 10:55 PM
Zuccarello, Nash & Stralman were the only ones not to get a point tonight... go figure

Redfish
01-05-2014, 12:11 AM
The Rangers team tonight appeared to play the Rangers team from last night. Just polar opposites and Toronto looked just as poor tonight.

It will take courage for AV to ride Talbot for 4-6 game straight but, if he wants to make the playoffs, he should play Talbot until it's obvious he shouldn't. These points are just too important to risk while Hank "finds his game."

Tonight's win was also in one of the important 4-point swing games this month. I never anticipated a victory over the Pens but we need to win these swing matchups against teams we are competing with for a bottom seed playoff spot.

Usually, a 3-2 roadtrip is considered good; I guess it is the manner in which we are losing that makes it seem not so good.

Yankee Clipper
01-05-2014, 12:47 AM
Wow. 7 goals. Boy did they need these two points.

metswon69
01-05-2014, 02:02 AM
The Rangers team tonight appeared to play the Rangers team from last night. Just polar opposites and Toronto looked just as poor tonight.

It will take courage for AV to ride Talbot for 4-6 game straight but, if he wants to make the playoffs, he should play Talbot until it's obvious he shouldn't. These points are just too important to risk while Hank "finds his game."


I don't have a problem with the 3-2 road trip personally. I find it more disparaging their play at home and the fact that they can't get 2 games over .500 for the life of them. There's a good opportunity for that with this home game against Columbus coming up though. As for the road trip, they lost to a Capitals team that just outplayed them and the Pens are never an easy task. Doesn't matter who is the coach, the Rangers always have a hard time with the Pens, as does most of the league.

I get they need to beat the teams they aren't supposed to beat as well but they played well against Tampa, Florida, and tonight against the Maple Leafs. They just need to be more consistent and maybe some of that consistency comes with, like you mentioned, keeping the hot goalie (Talbot) out there for a stretch of time. This isn't the beginning of the season anymore where they can work out the kinks, it's put up or shut up time with 39 games remaining. I get they need Lundqvist to be Lundqvist if they have any hopes of making a run in the playoffs but it's not there right now and if they want to stay in this race, they are going to need to consider how well they play and how well Talbot plays when he is in net. It's just two different teams.

I honestly would start Talbot into the game on Wednesday night against the Blackhawks, if he indeed plays Monday night against Columbus and plays well.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-05-2014, 11:36 AM
What a difference a day makes. Back over 500. So glad to see some things go well for us. Cam is not the best goalie in the world or the most technical but he really battles. I see hime following the puck and fighting to see it through screens.

Speaking of goalies I was watching the Toronto feed. The announcers said that Lundy has not played like the Lundy of old. They said he appears to be lunging at the puck and not getting square on the shooters.

bsi
01-05-2014, 12:06 PM
I personally think the goalies should be rotated game for game until Hank gets it together. It does him no good to sit on the bench for a week at a time

Redfish
01-05-2014, 12:17 PM
I personally think the goalies should be rotated game for game until Hank gets it together. It does him no good to sit on the bench for a week at a time

That's probably the best approach, all things considered.

On a different note, I was perusing through standings and past 10 game performances and our team is 6-3-1 during that span. Hard to appreciate with some of the poor quality losses in there, but 6-3-1 is a decent stretch of games. We've got a fair number of home games coming up; great opportunity for the players to make amends for the last homestand, and position themselves well toward the latter part of the season.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-05-2014, 12:21 PM
That's probably the best approach, all things considered.

On a different note, I was perusing through standings and past 10 game performances and our team is 6-3-1 during that span. Hard to appreciate with some of the poor quality losses in there, but 6-3-1 is a decent stretch of games. We've got a fair number of home games coming up; great opportunity for the players to make amends for the last homestand, and position themselves well toward the latter part of the season.

I'm glad you mentioned that. That is a great point. I did not know that. Sometimes it is hard to see the forest through the trees.

Yankee Clipper
01-05-2014, 12:28 PM
I'm glad you mentioned that. That is a great point. I did not know that. Sometimes it is hard to see the forest through the trees.

:nod:

bsi
01-05-2014, 03:50 PM
This month is huge for us, need to get a stretch going to make up for our terrible start.

nyr1980
01-05-2014, 04:51 PM
This month is huge for us, need to get a stretch going to make up for our terrible start.

Honestly, that's what I've been waiting for. I'm hoping that they'll hang aroud .500 as they have, and eventually they'll heat up and go on a run.

metswon69
01-05-2014, 06:32 PM
Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 43m

#CBJ G Sergei Bobrovsky will start vs. #NYR on Monday, his first game since suffering groin injury Dec. 3.

Good thing Bob isn't having the season he had last year.

IAmARanger18
01-06-2014, 02:10 PM
I really hope the team from Saturday night shows up tonight. That 2nd players only meeting must have really worked. That was the hardest we've seen that team fight and battle all year long. Probaly their most complete game of the season. Everything was being thrown at the net, constant and heavy fore-check, I honeslty don't have one complaint about that game. That's the effort we need more often.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-06-2014, 02:13 PM
When pucks start going in guys get happy and start buzzing the net looking for more.

It is nice to face some bad goaltending occasionally.

IAmARanger18
01-06-2014, 02:30 PM
When pucks start going in guys get happy and start buzzing the net looking for more.

It is nice to face some bad goaltending occasionally.

Hopefully we face another bad one tonight since Bob hasn't played in a month.

bsi
01-06-2014, 06:24 PM
Gotta get a win tonight....the next game isnt going to be a picnic.

IAmARanger18
01-06-2014, 07:44 PM
Yeah headed into Chicago on national televsion? Has embarrassement written all over it lol Much like they did to the Flyers.

bsi
01-06-2014, 08:18 PM
Once again the Zuc Brass Pouliot line is working hard. Happy Pouliot finally got some confidence, he is what I hoped he would be to start the year. Good on Vigneault for sticking with him.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-06-2014, 08:19 PM
Nice to see MDZ with the nice pass. Did that puck bounce on Mats? So close. :)

bsi
01-06-2014, 08:31 PM
MDZ has been good the last three games he played I think, but maybe I am focussed on the good too much I dunno, just what I think.

Lundqvist with a huge save.

bsi
01-06-2014, 08:34 PM
Kreider using his speed well again...he needs to do that every night.

bsi
01-06-2014, 08:43 PM
Finally Nash looking like himself again.......and he scores

metswon69
01-06-2014, 08:45 PM
Dubi made a nice deflection that Wisniewski shot. Good to see Nash score and Kreider just missed it.

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 09:03 PM
Wow

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 09:04 PM
Game misconduct is tough

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 09:06 PM
What a start...

bsi
01-06-2014, 09:43 PM
Kreiders misconduct really took the wind out of their sails.

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 09:49 PM
Kreiders misconduct really took the wind out of their sails.

Bsi, are you ready for the **** storm tomorrow morning?

bsi
01-06-2014, 10:02 PM
Kreiders misconduct really took the wind out of their sails.

Bsi, are you ready for the **** storm tomorrow morning?

All three of them, weather, team canada announcement and possible Kreider suspension.. the trifecta of sh storms haha

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 10:10 PM
All three of them, weather, team canada announcement and possible Kreider suspension.. the trifecta of sh storms haha

Haha very true

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 10:12 PM
Knowing the way these national teams are picked, Nash probably just locked up his spot in the Canadian roster

bsi
01-06-2014, 10:14 PM
Knowing the way these national teams are picked, Nash probably just locked up his spot in the Canadian roster

From the sound of how Yzerman talks about him I think his spot was there as long as he was healthy. He looks better tonight, maybe he already knows he made it.

bsi
01-06-2014, 10:35 PM
Got a point so far...needed to atleast get that.

bsi
01-06-2014, 10:44 PM
Terrible call on Stepan...good kill.

Another solid game by DZ again...maybe he is coming around.

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 10:47 PM
Big hank

notoriousbig21
01-06-2014, 10:48 PM
:mad:

1 ppg

bsi
01-06-2014, 10:49 PM
Zuccarello has to stop using that move every shootout.

NYR_NYJ
01-06-2014, 10:51 PM
Hank still is not on top of his game. They played well but gave too many chances.

J4KOP99
01-06-2014, 11:00 PM
Glad to see they came back but they really needed that 2nd point. Wednesday might get ugly

nyr1980
01-06-2014, 11:09 PM
Very good to come back from down two going into the third and get a point. Also nice to see Nash come to life. He was very good tonight. Hank was a bit better tonight, but still is fighting it.

But too many turnovers/giveaways tonight. If they do that in Chicago, whoever plays goal will get a sunburn on the back of his neck from the redlight being lit so much.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-06-2014, 11:13 PM
Would have been nice to get the 2 points but after being down 3-1 I can not complain too hard. Nice to see Nash get 2. Hopefully that gets him on a nice roll.

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 12:12 AM
Zuccarello has to stop using that move every shootout.

He needs to mix his old money move in from last year once in a while and keep them honest.

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 12:14 AM
Bsi, are you ready for the **** storm tomorrow morning?

He better not get suspended for that hit I had on both feeds and they both were saying the same thing. He hit him on the side and not the #'s and were shocked he got a game

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 12:16 AM
Very good to come back from down two going into the third and get a point. Also nice to see Nash come to life. He was very good tonight. Hank was a bit better tonight, but still is fighting it.

But too many turnovers/giveaways tonight. If they do that in Chicago, whoever plays goal will get a sunburn on the back of his neck from the redlight being lit so much.

Hank carried them in the 3rd and without him playing on his head they don't get 1 point.

nyr1980
01-07-2014, 12:30 AM
Hank carried them in the 3rd and without him playing on his head they don't get 1 point.

Yeah, he was better. I'll give you that. First game in a while where he's looked sharp at times and come up with some really big, impressive saves. And none of Columbus' three goals were soft, which is also good. But he still struggled

But Bobrovsky was the better of the two tonight, IMO.

J4KOP99
01-07-2014, 12:31 AM
He better not get suspended for that hit I had on both feeds and they both were saying the same thing. He hit him on the side and not the #'s and were shocked he got a game

I was talking about the team Canada announcement. I don't think kreider gets suspended. He was thrown out for more than half the game tn so he already got his punishment.

nyr1980
01-07-2014, 12:43 AM
I can't see him getting suspended. First offense.

fingerbang
01-07-2014, 12:47 AM
Off topic but Petr Nedved is on Czech team... :speechless:

Yankee Clipper
01-07-2014, 12:51 AM
Zuccarello has to stop using that move every shootout.

This. Everyone knows it's coming he needs to change it up.

bsi
01-07-2014, 12:52 AM
Off topic but Petr Nedved is on Czech team... :speechless:

And Juri Hudler didnt make it!! Big ice surface and you take Jagr and Nedved over Hudler....very surprising.

fingerbang
01-07-2014, 12:59 AM
And Juri Hudler didnt make it!! Big ice surface and you take Jagr and Nedved over Hudler....very surprising.

And they leave off Vrbata who's probably their leading goal scorer over the past 2-3 seasons and he has good chemestry Hanzal. Don't get it.

Redfish
01-07-2014, 10:12 AM
Hank continues to battle pucks in ways we've never seen before. If we were to learn he is dealing with a nagging injury that he simply has to play through until next summer, that would make sense to me. Otherwise, after 40+ games, it just doesn't make sense; if it was limited to making some tweaks and adjustments, that would have occurred by now. I don't get it.

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 10:19 AM
Hank continues to battle pucks in ways we've never seen before. If we were to learn he is dealing with a nagging injury that he simply has to play through until next summer, that would make sense to me. Otherwise, after 40+ games, it just doesn't make sense; if it was limited to making some tweaks and adjustments, that would have occurred by now. I don't get it.

He played pretty damn good last night

Redfish
01-07-2014, 10:31 AM
He played pretty damn good last night

I would have to trust you on that as I only saw half the game; I did see during that time though some shaky saves, but missed a stretch in the 3rd period where I heard he made some excellent saves.

puckhead54
01-07-2014, 10:37 AM
B
Off topic but Petr Nedved is on Czech team... :speechless:

Better yet Latvia included Sandis Ozolinsh to their squad:speechless::speechless:. Maybe Sather should resign both of them after all they are Olympians.:laugh:

bsi
01-07-2014, 10:45 AM
B
Off topic but Petr Nedved is on Czech team... :speechless:

Better yet Latvia included Sandis Ozolinsh to their squad:speechless::speechless:. Maybe Sather should resign both of them after all they are Olympians.:laugh:

Dont even whisper that...he would probably take Nedved back.

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 10:58 AM
I would have to trust you on that as I only saw half the game; I did see during that time though some shaky saves, but missed a stretch in the 3rd period where I heard he made some excellent saves.


He was all world in the 3rd. But i was just thinking about the goals that went in. None were really his fault

SLY WILLIAMS
01-07-2014, 11:31 AM
I would have to trust you on that as I only saw half the game; I did see during that time though some shaky saves, but missed a stretch in the 3rd period where I heard he made some excellent saves.

What is so strange is some nights he looks good and some he doesn't. Some periods he looks good and some he doesn't. Some shootouts he looks fine and some he doesn't. I wish I had some idea what is up. Injury? Pads? Confidence issue? Slump?

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 12:18 PM
What is so strange is some nights he looks good and some he doesn't. Some periods he looks good and some he doesn't. Some shootouts he looks fine and some he doesn't. I wish I had some idea what is up. Injury? Pads? Confidence issue? Slump?

I think since he had a bad start and a rough stretch we are easily picking apart most anything he does. Last night i though he played well and was unreal in the 3rd and the only reason we got 1 point. Yeah he let a few in during the shootout sometimes you just jave to tip your hat to the shooter.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-07-2014, 12:36 PM
I think sionce he had a bad start and a rough stretch we are easily picking apart most anything he does. Last night i though he played well and was unreal in the 3rd and the only reason we got 1 point. Yeah he let a few in during the shootout sometimes you just jave to tip your hat to the shooter.

I'm not blaming him for any one specific game, shootout or play. I'm speaking more in a general sense. I want him to do as well as anyone because we really need him. He was 1 of the top 3 goalies season after season in the past. Occasionally he looks like that again. I just wish I knew what the problem is because once you know the problem then you know if it can be fixed. I think Lundy himself would admit he has not been the Lundy of old. Aanson Carter says he is playing even farther back in his net than before. Other teams announcers say he is lunging at the puck and not square to the shooters. I do not know what the issue is but I know for us to do well in the playoffs we need the Lundy that stands on his head. With the great Lundy playing like he has in the past we could surprise people in the playoffs.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Hags da man made team Sweden. Well deserved!!!

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 12:56 PM
I'm not blaming him for any one specific game, shootout or play. I'm speaking more in a general sense. I want him to do as well as anyone because we really need him. He was 1 of the top 3 goalies season after season in the past. Occasionally he looks like that again. I just wish I knew what the problem is because once you know the problem then you know if it can be fixed. I think Lundy himself would admit he has not been the Lundy of old. Aanson Carter says he is playing even farther back in his net than before. Other teams announcers say he is lunging at the puck and not square to the shooters. I do not know what the issue is but I know for us to do well in the playoffs we need the Lundy that stands on his head. With the great Lundy playing like he has in the past we could surprise people in the playoffs.


In recent games i noticed he wasnt as sqaure on some shots when guys were down low( the crobsy backhand) was he worrried about the d not takiong the pass away?

J4KOP99
01-07-2014, 01:55 PM
Congrats to hags and Nash

Redfish
01-07-2014, 02:08 PM
Congrats to hags and Nash

And Zuccarella w/Norway!

IAmARanger18
01-07-2014, 02:08 PM
More vulnerable to letting up rebounds and most of them end up on the stick of the other team for a goal. In years past, our defense would be there waiting for it, but with the offensive style of play, they're all pushing forward trying to advance the play.

That would work, if we could score 3-4 goals a game, but we can't.

nyr2002nyr
01-07-2014, 02:29 PM
And Zuccarella w/Norway!


the only NHLer on Norway lol

SLY WILLIAMS
01-07-2014, 04:08 PM
Off topic but Petr Nedved is on Czech team... :speechless:

He is a former Ranger so its good.

I did not even know he was still playing. I'm happy for him. I hope he has a good tourney.

Yankee Clipper
01-08-2014, 01:16 AM
Congrats to hags and Nash

:clap:

IAmARanger18
01-08-2014, 10:13 AM
Rangers and Hawks on NBCSPN Rivalry Night, tonight!!

Wooooo, let's show the world what we're made of! Or how inconsistent our play has been...Whichever works.

bsi
01-08-2014, 10:19 AM
Rangers and Hawks on NBCSPN Rivalry Night, tonight!!

Wooooo, let's show the world what we're made of! Or how inconsistent our play has been...Whichever works.

Unless they skate like they did against T.O they will have a hard time with Chicago.

IAmARanger18
01-08-2014, 10:25 AM
Unless they skate like they did against T.O they will have a hard time with Chicago.

I hope the team from Saturday night shows up, or the team that showed up late in the third to fight back for a point against Columbus. If not, we're gonna get our dicks kicked in at ''The Madhouse on Madison''

Redfish
01-08-2014, 12:23 PM
Unless they skate like they did against T.O they will have a hard time with Chicago.

The success in Toronto last week had as much, or more, to do with Toronto than the Rangers, in my view. I'd like to give them full credit for that performance but they ran into a team struggling mightily and which gives up the most shots per game in the league (something like 36/game); hence, Rangers got 50 that night!

I do think a solid 60 minute effort throughout the entire lineup can beat Chicago though; but it requires top level effort by every player, especially high quality goaltending.

nyr2002nyr
01-08-2014, 12:36 PM
The success in Toronto last week had as much, or more, to do with Toronto than the Rangers, in my view. I'd like to give them full credit for that performance but they ran into a team struggling mightily and which gives up the most shots per game in the league (something like 36/game); hence, Rangers got 50 that night!

I do think a solid 60 minute effort throughout the entire lineup can beat Chicago though; but it requires top level effort by every player, especially high quality goaltending.


ANd they didnt get good goaltending either

Redfish
01-08-2014, 12:42 PM
ANd they didnt get good goaltending either

True. With all the backups we've made to look like superstars this season, I hope there are a few more games where we face poor goaltending.

bsi
01-08-2014, 01:40 PM
We are a fast team, if we arent skating we arent effective. I think when everyone is going we are a very good team, Kreider and Haggy have to set the pace.

nyr1980
01-08-2014, 02:18 PM
We are a fast team, if we arent skating we arent effective. I think when everyone is going we are a very good team, Kreider and Haggy have to set the pace.

Agreed. Not underskilled, just underachieving.

Problems have been offensive inconsistency, defensive breakdowns due to the system, and Hank not being Hank.

bsi
01-08-2014, 04:14 PM
We are a fast team, if we arent skating we arent effective. I think when everyone is going we are a very good team, Kreider and Haggy have to set the pace.

Agreed. Not underskilled, just underachieving.

Problems have been offensive inconsistency, defensive breakdowns due to the system, and Hank not being Hank.

I personally think Nash has been struggling trying to balance not getting another concussion too soon with playing at a high level, taking the puck to the net and getting in the high scoring areas. I don't blame him really and I have seen better signs of him being more comfortable using his size and getting to the front of the net in the last couple games. Him not performing has hindered Stepan as well, the two go hand in hand. If those two get it going we have 3 lines that can score. Obviously Hank has to be better as well as Stralman, Moore and DelZotto, though DelZotto has been good the last couple games.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-08-2014, 04:16 PM
Has AV said who is in goal tonight?

fingerbang
01-08-2014, 04:29 PM
Hanky

Redfish
01-08-2014, 04:31 PM
Has AV said who is in goal tonight?

It's Hank tonight. Not clear on whether Carcillo is in.

IAmARanger18
01-08-2014, 04:37 PM
I would play Carcillo tonight honestly.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-08-2014, 04:39 PM
Hanky


It's Hank tonight. Not clear on whether Carcillo is in.


I'm mildly surprised but I think it is the right decision. We are not going anywhere unless Hank plays like the Hank we know so I like that AV is showing confidence in him.

nyr2002nyr
01-08-2014, 05:14 PM
I'm mildly surprised but I think it is the right decision. We are not going anywhere unless Hank plays like the Hank we know so I like that AV is showing confidence in him.

I was honestly hopin they played him the game after the players only meeting to start that confidence rolling

nyr2002nyr
01-08-2014, 05:15 PM
I personally think Nash has been struggling trying to balance not getting another concussion too soon with playing at a high level, taking the puck to the net and getting in the high scoring areas. I don't blame him really and I have seen better signs of him being more comfortable using his size and getting to the front of the net in the last couple games. Him not performing has hindered Stepan as well, the two go hand in hand. If those two get it going we have 3 lines that can score. Obviously Hank has to be better as well as Stralman, Moore and DelZotto, though DelZotto has been good the last couple games.

He clearly is still on the fence i saw 2-3 times in the last 2 games where normally he would drop the shoulder stick the leg out and power it to the net and he stopped all 3 at the last second and looked to pass

Redfish
01-08-2014, 05:38 PM
I would play Carcillo tonight honestly.

Same lineup as Monday; Hank in net and Carcillo healthy scratch.

nyr2002nyr
01-08-2014, 07:26 PM
Same lineup as Monday; Hank in net and Carcillo healthy scratch.

Carcillo is in miller is out

Redfish
01-08-2014, 07:31 PM
Carcillo is in miller is out

Ahh, got it; thanks for the correction.

nyr2002nyr
01-08-2014, 08:09 PM
Ahh, got it; thanks for the correction.

No worries bud I didn't know either way until it came across my phone.

AV on JT: "If he keeps improving and if he keeps working on his game there’s a chance that someday he’ll become a real effective player."

nyr2002nyr
01-08-2014, 09:28 PM
First and second blood!!

metswon69
01-08-2014, 11:39 PM
Good win tonight boys!! 3rd place in the Metro :)

Probably Lundqvist's best game all year outside of that bad goal by Bollig.

nyr1980
01-08-2014, 11:44 PM
WOW! Outstanding tonight!

PP goal. 2 @ even strength. They really outplayed the best team in the league in their building for significant stretches tonight.

Nash was very good despite not being on the score sheet. Hank was great, especially after a second goal that he'd love back.

Richards and Staal were the two best players on the ice tonight.

nyr1980
01-08-2014, 11:49 PM
Maybe the turning point.

J4KOP99
01-08-2014, 11:52 PM
Was out and didnt get to see the game but my jaw dropped when I checked the final score. Great stuff.

metswon69
01-09-2014, 12:23 AM
I just realized something too. We are finally two games over .500.

bsi
01-09-2014, 12:30 AM
Great game..big win for us. Staal was awesome, and Girardi saved the game like 3 times in the last min and half.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-09-2014, 12:37 AM
The Blackhawks are no match for us. We are the road warriors. :)

Redfish
01-09-2014, 09:15 AM
Very encouraging game last night. It was a high quality win (unlike Toronto); Lundqvist was a deciding factor and we outscored our opponent 5v5.

Excellent stuff that needs to be followed with consistency at this level. LGR!

nyr2002nyr
01-09-2014, 09:32 AM
The Blackhawks are no match for us. We are the road warriors. :)

Oddly enough that is the name of the Rangers ECHL Team

bsi
01-09-2014, 10:29 AM
Loved our forecheck but we let up in the 2nd, stopped skating and pressuring the d. Need to put 60 mins together but a big win against a legitimate cup contender.

IAmARanger18
01-09-2014, 11:30 AM
Oh man that is the type of effort I want to see every night! First period was great for us, second not so much, beginning of the 3rd we were dominated but picked it up halfway. Hank was HUGE last night, really settled in after that **** goal by Bollig.

Redfish
01-09-2014, 11:36 AM
Oh man that is the type of effort I want to see every night! First period was great for us, second not so much, beginning of the 3rd we were dominated but picked it up halfway. Hank was HUGE last night, really settled in after that **** goal by Bollig.

It seems like every other game this season, had we blown a 2-goal lead, the team would have wilted and lost. I am hoping that showing some steel against a top team, and winning, is the mark of a significant turn in the season for this team.

IAmARanger18
01-09-2014, 11:38 AM
It seems like every other game this season, had we blown a 2-goal lead, the team would have wilted and lost. I am hoping that showing some steel against a top team, and winning, is the mark of a significant turn in the season for this team.

Well I hope this win is the turning point to our season. It was a huge win, biggest of the season thus far and with how cluttered the Metro is, we need to get some more wins under our belt.

MJL80
01-09-2014, 12:06 PM
Definitely not the type of win that were used to seeing from this team over the past 2 seasons. Great to see Hank hang in there after letting up those 2 quick goals in the 2nd, showed alot of poise and hopefully this win will be the rebound and confidence booster he was looking for.

Another big game against Dallas at home tomorrow. Hope we can keep the momentum going, and not have 5-2 defeat at home where we let in 3 quick ones in the first... something I'm tired of seeing when watching home games, especially after big road wins

bsi
01-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Speed, more speed, goaltending and shots to the net. Keys to our success. Its been a while since we had a team that could skate with anyone.

IAmARanger18
01-10-2014, 01:20 PM
Looking forward to see how the team responds tonight after that huge win on Wednesday. Dallas is on a 4 game losing streak and were shutout last night in NJ. Let's see how Hank responds after the win, hoping the Hank from the third period shows up for 60 minutes tonight.

nyr2002nyr
01-10-2014, 02:12 PM
Looking forward to see how the team responds tonight after that huge win on Wednesday. Dallas is on a 4 game losing streak and were shutout last night in NJ. Let's see how Hank responds after the win, hoping the Hank from the third period shows up for 60 minutes tonight.

So am i i am hoping for more of the same instead of a letdown

IAmARanger18
01-10-2014, 06:20 PM
So am i i am hoping for more of the same instead of a letdown


Hopefully not a letdown.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-10-2014, 06:42 PM
This team is not that far but we are not there. One thing I think we miss is a real vocal leader that all the players look to for direction. Some guys lead by example and that is great but we could use a real take charge guy to keep things together in that lockeroom.

bsi
01-10-2014, 07:12 PM
This team is not that far but we are not there. One thing I think we miss is a real vocal leader that all the players look to for direction. Some guys lead by example and that is great but we could use a real take charge guy to keep things together in that lockeroom.

I think the addition of Callahan and Staal back into the lineup have helped with leadership in the room. The team seems to have come around after the last players only meeting.

Also was good to see McDonagh praising Redden today for his role in his development, he said that he helped him adjust his attitude after he didnt make the team the first year here and helped him realize what it took with regards to preparation to be an Nhl player. I am hearing Aaron Johnson is having the same effect now on our guys.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-10-2014, 07:37 PM
I think the addition of Callahan and Staal back into the lineup have helped with leadership in the room. The team seems to have come around after the last players only meeting.

Also was good to see McDonagh praising Redden today for his role in his development, he said that he helped him adjust his attitude after he didnt make the team the first year here and helped him realize what it took with regards to preparation to be an Nhl player. I am hearing Aaron Johnson is having the same effect now on our guys.

McD is one of 3 Rangers dmen I have heard praise Wade in that manner. I hope he reads that. He was a bad contract although he once was a pretty good player. It doesn't mean he was a bad guy. I think Wade took tried to help any way he could once he was sent down.

nyr2002nyr
01-10-2014, 09:18 PM
They came out for the 2nd flat

nyr2002nyr
01-10-2014, 09:29 PM
I love saying this maybe because it's new this year

"ITS A POWER PLAY GOAL"

bsi
01-10-2014, 09:33 PM
Just need to get Stepan and Nash goin.

nyr2002nyr
01-10-2014, 09:36 PM
Just need to get Stepan and Nash goin.

I was hoping he was gonna finish on that breakaway. Not sure he realized he had some time.

J4KOP99
01-10-2014, 09:55 PM
Just need to get Stepan and Nash goin.

Nash has looked better as of late. Stepan is still nowhere to be found.

bsi
01-10-2014, 10:04 PM
DelZotto has been very good, defensively sound and physical.

nyr2002nyr
01-10-2014, 10:33 PM
Hell of a penalty kill. Nash is at least getting chances steps is doing nothing.

J4KOP99
01-10-2014, 10:39 PM
Nash what a goal

nyr2002nyr
01-10-2014, 10:40 PM
Nashty

bsi
01-10-2014, 10:41 PM
Nash finally going to the dirty areas the last few games.

bsi
01-10-2014, 10:44 PM
Was hoping an empty net goal might take some pressure of Stepan but didnt happen...big win.

metswon69
01-10-2014, 10:49 PM
It's a much better Friday night to leave MSG with a win :). LGR!!!

Solid game and I knew Dallas was going to play us tough after losing 5 in a row and playing like crap against the Devils the other night.

MJL80
01-10-2014, 10:52 PM
Leave it to us to start heating up right before the Olympic break.... big game sunday against philly, let's keep it going :clap:

Redfish
01-10-2014, 11:10 PM
McD is one of 3 Rangers dmen I have heard praise Wade in that manner. I hope he reads that. He was a bad contract although he once was a pretty good player. It doesn't mean he was a bad guy. I think Wade took tried to help any way he could once he was sent down.

I was especially pleased to hear Wade had been quietly working with terminally ill children over the years. Very inspirational how a guy that was dumped on, simply went about hockey and life trying to make a positive impact in the lives of others. Thank you, Mr. Redden.

J4KOP99
01-10-2014, 11:11 PM
With all these nice stories, you guys are starting to make me feel bad for giving redden so much ****

SLY WILLIAMS
01-10-2014, 11:11 PM
I love saying this maybe because it's new this year

"ITS A POWER PLAY GOAL"


That is fun to hear for sure. It also helps stop other teams from taking too many runs at us because we now can make them pay with our PP.

We have around 7 wins in the last 10-11 games. Nice to see some positivity.

SLY WILLIAMS
01-10-2014, 11:13 PM
I was especially pleased to hear Wade had been quietly working with terminally ill children over the years. Very inspirational how a guy that was dumped on, simply went about hockey and life trying to make a positive impact in the lives of others. Thank you, Mr. Redden.

I did not know about that. I like Wade so I appreciate you posting that for us.

Yankee Clipper
01-10-2014, 11:34 PM
Big win! Let's get a streak going! :clap:

bsi
01-11-2014, 12:11 AM
Big win! Let's get a streak going! :clap:

We have a streak going...7-2-1 in our last ten. Richards with 2 goals 4 assists in last 4 games. Just need Stepan to get some points on the board.