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Matter.
12-25-2013, 04:52 PM
Lets say you are a rookie like Wiggins,Parker,randle ,etc , who would be your first choice in the NBA right now to be your mentor ? (Injured or not)

Minimal
12-25-2013, 05:06 PM
LeBron...Duh.

kingsdelez24
12-25-2013, 05:11 PM
KG

That is all

FraziersKnicks
12-25-2013, 05:14 PM
LeBron

IgglesFanInCO
12-25-2013, 05:25 PM
For a big man its gotta be Timmy D

ramz.n
12-25-2013, 05:28 PM
timmy d & coach pop

Cal827
12-25-2013, 05:37 PM
Depends:

For a Point Guard: Chris Paul (This really doesn't require explanation lol)

For A Swingman: Ray Allen or Shane Battier. The guys here are athletic as hell, having a professional player like Ray Allen could help their work ethic, as well as improve their shooting or in Battier's presence, help them with developing their defensive game. Kobe is another good example who could help their game out, but it depends on his patience.

For a Big Man: Tim Duncan. Again, not much of an explaination. KG and Gaslol is another example, if the prospects player is more of a mid-range/post passing type of player.

b@llhog24
12-25-2013, 05:53 PM
I'd hate to have KG as a mentor.

KnicksorBust
12-25-2013, 06:04 PM
Depends:

For a Point Guard: Chris Paul (This really doesn't require explanation lol)

For A Swingman: Ray Allen or Shane Battier. The guys here are athletic as hell, having a professional player like Ray Allen could help their work ethic, as well as improve their shooting or in Battier's presence, help them with developing their defensive game. Kobe is another good example who could help their game out, but it depends on his patience.

For a Big Man: Tim Duncan. Again, not much of an explaination. KG and Gaslol is another example, if the prospects player is more of a mid-range/post passing type of player.

Annoying correct.

JEDean89
12-25-2013, 06:45 PM
wiggins - lebron
parker - kd
exum - kobe
embiid - timmy
randle - timmy
smart - wade
vonleh - timmy

basically timmy for bigs, players who's games would rub off well on everyone else. like imagine if smart got some of wades game in him, or if wiggins got some of lebrons passing vision?

Quinnsanity
12-25-2013, 06:59 PM
Duncan

/thread

Seriously, someone explain to me why LeBron or Kobe would be great mentors?

Matter.
12-25-2013, 08:46 PM
Duncan

/thread

Seriously, someone explain to me why LeBron or Kobe would be great mentors?

Well Kobe can instill the mentality of being a cold blooded clutch player down the stretch while Lebron can instill the mentality of being a freight train

naps
12-25-2013, 10:18 PM
I see what's trying to be accomplished here. But it's LeBron.

knicksfan1794
12-25-2013, 10:25 PM
How can lebron help somebody get better, the stengths that he has can not be taught?

Matter.
12-25-2013, 10:36 PM
I see what's trying to be accomplished here. But it's LeBron.

Elaborate pls?

TrueFan420
12-26-2013, 03:59 AM
How can lebron help somebody get better, the stengths that he has can not be taught?

This... Only thing they can learn is to work hard and hit the gym to train weights and bball but he doesn't have a skill set you can teach.

Timmy d could show someone how to work the post, go to the bank when you're running low on cash and positionally be where you need to be defensively.

Knicks21
12-26-2013, 04:31 AM
Duncan

/thread

Seriously, someone explain to me why LeBron or Kobe would be great mentors?

Because its Lebron and Kobe... Training against them would be extremely beneficial.

Knicks21
12-26-2013, 04:35 AM
How can lebron help somebody get better, the stengths that he has can not be taught?

Because his talent is a god given gift? Go tell Lebron that, its the biggest cop out and extremely undermining the hard work he has put in over his life.

TrueFan420
12-26-2013, 05:35 AM
Because his talent is a god given gift? Go tell Lebron that, its the biggest cop out and extremely undermining the hard work he has put in over his life.
That body is a god given gift. His talent is a good given gift. Don't get me wrong he works very hard not trying to take that away from him and seeing him train hard would help a young player but his strengths on the court are not really teachable.

Minimal
12-26-2013, 06:46 AM
There is a reason LeBron is unquestionably the best in the NBA and arguably the best player to ever play in NBA. You people who think LeBrons strengths on the court which make him the best are of physical specimen, you are stupid, point blank.

Court vision, leadership, he controls the team during the game as a coach, he sets up the plays, he learned how to move off the ball, thats why he gets so much easy shots under the rim. He has extremely high basketball IQ. He has decent post moves, he knows when to shoot or when to pass, his shot selection is the best in the NBA, he knows how use his strengths to benefit him the best way. He is one of the best defenders in the league who can guard 4 positions, he can teach how to read someones offense and how to defend a man properly. He has been in the finals numerous times, he has lost and won them, the guy seen it and knows it all.

OlivaThor
12-26-2013, 06:55 AM
There is a reason LeBron is unquestionably the best in the NBA and arguably the best player to ever play in NBA. You people who think LeBrons strengths on the court which make him the best are of physical specimen, you are stupid, point blank.

Court vision, leadership, he controls the team during the game as a coach, he sets up the plays, he learned how to move off the ball, thats why he gets so much easy shots under the rim. He has extremely high basketball IQ. He has decent post moves, he knows when to shoot or when to pass, his shot selection is the best in the NBA, he knows how use his strengths to benefit him the best way. He is one of the best defenders in the league who can guard 4 positions, he can teach how to read someones offense and how to defend a man properly. He has been in the finals numerous times, he has lost and won them, the guy seen it and knows it all.

Well said :clap: Agree 100%

force_within
12-26-2013, 07:02 AM
duncan, no doubt..but depends on the player's position.

ATX
12-26-2013, 08:40 AM
Duncan and Ray Allen jump out to me. Future HOFers, great fundamentals, and both have personalities that would seem to lend themselves towards being great mentors.

DreamShaker
12-26-2013, 12:03 PM
PG- Nash/Parker
SG- Ray Allen/Billups
SF- Battier/Pierce
PF- Dirk/David West
C- Duncan/KG

Anti-Mentor team

PG- Delonte West
SG- JR Smith
SF- Stephen Jackson
PF- Reggie Evans
C- Cousins

All Time/Retired

PG- John Lucas/Magic
SG- Jerry West/Dumars
SF- Bird/Dr. J
PF- McHale/Webber
C- Hakeem/D-Rob/Dikembe/Bill Russell

Phenomenonsense
12-26-2013, 12:21 PM
Because its Lebron and Kobe... Training against them would be extremely beneficial.

Sure helped Morrison. Bird.0

BrandoCommando
12-26-2013, 12:53 PM
Gilbert Arenas.

bbcmillionaire
12-26-2013, 01:25 PM
Kg for Anthony Bennett

IAmARanger18
12-26-2013, 02:03 PM
Depends:

For a Point Guard: Chris Paul (This really doesn't require explanation lol)

For A Swingman: Ray Allen or Shane Battier. The guys here are athletic as hell, having a professional player like Ray Allen could help their work ethic, as well as improve their shooting or in Battier's presence, help them with developing their defensive game. Kobe is another good example who could help their game out, but it depends on his patience.

For a Big Man: Tim Duncan. Again, not much of an explaination. KG and Gaslol is another example, if the prospects player is more of a mid-range/post passing type of player.

Pretty much this and even KD.

PurpleLynch
12-26-2013, 02:51 PM
There is a reason LeBron is unquestionably the best in the NBA and arguably the best player to ever play in NBA. You people who think LeBrons strengths on the court which make him the best are of physical specimen, you are stupid, point blank.

Court vision, leadership, he controls the team during the game as a coach, he sets up the plays, he learned how to move off the ball, thats why he gets so much easy shots under the rim. He has extremely high basketball IQ. He has decent post moves, he knows when to shoot or when to pass, his shot selection is the best in the NBA, he knows how use his strengths to benefit him the best way. He is one of the best defenders in the league who can guard 4 positions, he can teach how to read someones offense and how to defend a man properly. He has been in the finals numerous times, he has lost and won them, the guy seen it and knows it all.

That doesn't mean he can be a good "teacher". Yes,he saw it all,but it depends also on how are you gonna teach these things to a rookie(and also what rookie you have to mentor).

PS:The discussion for the greatest of all time must start from MJ anyway. Could James be better than Mj? Maybe. But right now MJ is still the greatest imo.

b@llhog24
12-26-2013, 06:41 PM
There is a reason LeBron is unquestionably the best in the NBA and arguably the best player to ever play in NBA. You people who think LeBrons strengths on the court which make him the best are of physical specimen, you are stupid, point blank.

Court vision, leadership, he controls the team during the game as a coach, he sets up the plays, he learned how to move off the ball, thats why he gets so much easy shots under the rim. He has extremely high basketball IQ. He has decent post moves, he knows when to shoot or when to pass, his shot selection is the best in the NBA, he knows how use his strengths to benefit him the best way. He is one of the best defenders in the league who can guard 4 positions, he can teach how to read someones offense and how to defend a man properly. He has been in the finals numerous times, he has lost and won them, the guy seen it and knows it all.

Court vision isn't exactly a teachable trait.

Quinnsanity
12-26-2013, 07:08 PM
There is a reason LeBron is unquestionably the best in the NBA and arguably the best player to ever play in NBA. You people who think LeBrons strengths on the court which make him the best are of physical specimen, you are stupid, point blank.

Court vision, leadership, he controls the team during the game as a coach, he sets up the plays, he learned how to move off the ball, thats why he gets so much easy shots under the rim. He has extremely high basketball IQ. He has decent post moves, he knows when to shoot or when to pass, his shot selection is the best in the NBA, he knows how use his strengths to benefit him the best way. He is one of the best defenders in the league who can guard 4 positions, he can teach how to read someones offense and how to defend a man properly. He has been in the finals numerous times, he has lost and won them, the guy seen it and knows it all.

As a player, some of this is true, but the fact is most of LeBron's skills can't be taught. He's a prodigy and not just physically. You can't teach someone to play the game two moves ahead like LeBron does just like you can't teach someone to be as physically overwhelming as LeBron is.

There just isn't an argument to be made that LeBron offers as much as a mentor as Duncan does. Remember, LeBron has more than a little history of being petty, of being immature, things that no longer seem to be big deals but still exist within him. Duncan is and always has been the picture of professionalism. He's always embraced his teammates in ways that LeBron has only done since coming to Miami. Duncan's been the league's best mentor for 15 years and it shows in how his teams have played. It's not a coincidence that so many Spurs come from nothing. It's not all Pop, it's the entire Spurs system, a lot of which comes from Duncan. It's not that LeBron wouldn't be a GOOD mentor, it's that he just wouldn't be as good as Duncan.

As for Kobe, if anything I actually think he'd be a terrible mentor because he's too competitive. Let's say the Lakers ended up with Wiggins. Don't you think Kobe would be more concerned with maintaining his dominant position on the team rather than mentoring Wiggins? There's too much pettiness there.

Knicks21
12-26-2013, 10:16 PM
That body is a god given gift. His talent is a good given gift. Don't get me wrong he works very hard not trying to take that away from him and seeing him train hard would help a young player but his strengths on the court are not really teachable.

You are never given talent lol.

Knicks21
12-26-2013, 10:23 PM
As a player, some of this is true, but the fact is most of LeBron's skills can't be taught. He's a prodigy and not just physically. You can't teach someone to play the game two moves ahead like LeBron does just like you can't teach someone to be as physically overwhelming as LeBron is.

There just isn't an argument to be made that LeBron offers as much as a mentor as Duncan does. Remember, LeBron has more than a little history of being petty, of being immature, things that no longer seem to be big deals but still exist within him. Duncan is and always has been the picture of professionalism. He's always embraced his teammates in ways that LeBron has only done since coming to Miami. Duncan's been the league's best mentor for 15 years and it shows in how his teams have played. It's not a coincidence that so many Spurs come from nothing. It's not all Pop, it's the entire Spurs system, a lot of which comes from Duncan. It's not that LeBron wouldn't be a GOOD mentor, it's that he just wouldn't be as good as Duncan.

As for Kobe, if anything I actually think he'd be a terrible mentor because he's too competitive. Let's say the Lakers ended up with Wiggins. Don't you think Kobe would be more concerned with maintaining his dominant position on the team rather than mentoring Wiggins? There's too much pettiness there.

Because he was born that way right?

I can't believe how much of this forum puts Lebrons talent down to genetics, It could not be any further from the truth.

And yeh look maybe the Rookie doesn't want to learn the post... Maybe he wants to learn to be the best well rounded player he can be.

I would choose Lebron 10/10 times to mentor me before Duncan.

Knicks21
12-26-2013, 10:25 PM
Court vision isn't exactly a teachable trait.

It absolutely is.

TrueFan420
12-27-2013, 02:58 PM
You are never given talent lol.

Yes you are. Some people just have a natural talent for things and it comes easier. What you do with said talent is different. But we can agree to disagree.

b@llhog24
12-27-2013, 03:33 PM
It absolutely is.

Then why don't more people have it?