PDA

View Full Version : Rose No Longer Humble, Hometown Kid



theheatles
12-19-2013, 11:20 AM
CBS) Complaining while not playing is a bad look for someone who has sold a phony reputation as a humble, team-oriented kid.

According to a story in the New York Daily News, Rose is now unhappy that the Bulls will have to reconstruct their roster in an effort to win a championship, apparently thinking that such a move would be a waste of his precious time and efforts. “Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’” Well, too bad.

What does he think they have, and where does he think it’s going? Most importantly, what does he not understand about the primary reason for the Bulls’ current plight? It takes some nerve to call out his employers after they have paid him 30% of their salary cap to miss consecutive seasons.

This is typical behavior from a player who has always done only what is in his personal best interest, everybody else be damned. He’ll take every last dollar, and enjoy all the team-supplied resources for medical consultations, surgeries, rehabilitation programs and various therapists, only to ignore their professional opinions just because he feels like it. And don’t bother asking him for even token assistance in welcoming potential free agents either, because he doesn’t want to.

At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.

It doesn’t help anything that Rose is not among the brightest bulbs, and that he still lives in an insular camp of cronies that is too often at odds with his team. It was understandable for him to be shielded from Englewood gangs and other unsavory influences enough to get him a fair shot at a pro career, but enough already. He’s 25 years old, in his fifth NBA season, is worth a quarter-billion dollars and has a family of his own, yet his uneducated oaf of an older brother remains the empowered svengali.

Reggie Rose is a clown, using the guise of brotherly love to aggrandize himself after a failed career as both player and coach that was marked by bizarre, immature behavior. Bulls officials have become increasingly frustrated by continued communication problems with Rose due to Reggie’s invasive influence, with one source telling WSCR “It’s like talking to a wall.”
Perhaps the best advice came from Charles Barkley last February, when he opined on TNT that instead of complaining about Bulls business, Reggie should “shut the hell up.”
Another problem is the presence of BJ Armstrong as part of Rose’s group as one of his agents. Armstrong’s personal bitterness toward Paxson and the Bulls runs long and deep: he’s still angry that he didn’t get the chance to replace Jerry Krause as GM and Paxson did, and the two former teammates are not on speaking terms. As long as he is allied with Rose there will be an undercurrent of conflict, with any comment or action subject to interpretation regarding ulterior motive.
Derrick Rose needs to grow up, wise up, and seize control of his image and career before he and the bozos around him fritter away a mountain of good will, scattering his civic capital to the winds.
He’s got the money, and that’s it.

He says he’s all about winning a championship, but then he carps about rebuilding when it appears his team is trying to do what it must to give him that very opportunity. That’s just dumb.

And it’s certainly not humble, so we can stop with that. The quiet superstar is quiet not because he is naturally self-effacing, but because he is bad at talking. The local-kid-made-good storyline is over. He likes to let his game speak for him, but then refuses to play even when instructed to by doctors. He opts for cartilage repair that requires a longer-term recovery, and then lacks the basic understanding of how that changes the team’s title trajectory.
As always, the Bulls are trying to take care of themselves while Derrick Rose tries to take care of Derrick Rose on the Bulls’ dime.

Sadly, the two endeavors don’t always seem to be working toward the same ends.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/bernstein-rose-no-longer-humble-hometown-kid/

sammyvine
12-19-2013, 11:31 AM
CBS) Complaining while not playing is a bad look for someone who has sold a phony reputation as a humble, team-oriented kid.

According to a story in the New York Daily News, Rose is now unhappy that the Bulls will have to reconstruct their roster in an effort to win a championship, apparently thinking that such a move would be a waste of his precious time and efforts. “Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’” Well, too bad.

What does he think they have, and where does he think it’s going? Most importantly, what does he not understand about the primary reason for the Bulls’ current plight? It takes some nerve to call out his employers after they have paid him 30% of their salary cap to miss consecutive seasons.

This is typical behavior from a player who has always done only what is in his personal best interest, everybody else be damned. He’ll take every last dollar, and enjoy all the team-supplied resources for medical consultations, surgeries, rehabilitation programs and various therapists, only to ignore their professional opinions just because he feels like it. And don’t bother asking him for even token assistance in welcoming potential free agents either, because he doesn’t want to.

At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.

It doesn’t help anything that Rose is not among the brightest bulbs, and that he still lives in an insular camp of cronies that is too often at odds with his team. It was understandable for him to be shielded from Englewood gangs and other unsavory influences enough to get him a fair shot at a pro career, but enough already. He’s 25 years old, in his fifth NBA season, is worth a quarter-billion dollars and has a family of his own, yet his uneducated oaf of an older brother remains the empowered svengali.

Reggie Rose is a clown, using the guise of brotherly love to aggrandize himself after a failed career as both player and coach that was marked by bizarre, immature behavior. Bulls officials have become increasingly frustrated by continued communication problems with Rose due to Reggie’s invasive influence, with one source telling WSCR “It’s like talking to a wall.”
Perhaps the best advice came from Charles Barkley last February, when he opined on TNT that instead of complaining about Bulls business, Reggie should “shut the hell up.”
Another problem is the presence of BJ Armstrong as part of Rose’s group as one of his agents. Armstrong’s personal bitterness toward Paxson and the Bulls runs long and deep: he’s still angry that he didn’t get the chance to replace Jerry Krause as GM and Paxson did, and the two former teammates are not on speaking terms. As long as he is allied with Rose there will be an undercurrent of conflict, with any comment or action subject to interpretation regarding ulterior motive.
Derrick Rose needs to grow up, wise up, and seize control of his image and career before he and the bozos around him fritter away a mountain of good will, scattering his civic capital to the winds.
He’s got the money, and that’s it.

He says he’s all about winning a championship, but then he carps about rebuilding when it appears his team is trying to do what it must to give him that very opportunity. That’s just dumb.

And it’s certainly not humble, so we can stop with that. The quiet superstar is quiet not because he is naturally self-effacing, but because he is bad at talking. The local-kid-made-good storyline is over. He likes to let his game speak for him, but then refuses to play even when instructed to by doctors. He opts for cartilage repair that requires a longer-term recovery, and then lacks the basic understanding of how that changes the team’s title trajectory.
As always, the Bulls are trying to take care of themselves while Derrick Rose tries to take care of Derrick Rose on the Bulls’ dime.

Sadly, the two endeavors don’t always seem to be working toward the same ends.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/bernstein-rose-no-longer-humble-hometown-kid/

I don't understand how people can make observations about people they have never met.....
Also most NBA players are cocky. It coms with the job like it or not.

FlashBolt
12-19-2013, 11:32 AM
I don't know how much of this is true but it's blatant that Rose is a selfish individual. He hopes they don't go into rebuilding mode after they spent millions for him to sit in benches? Gimme a break. Overrated and Paul George has made him irrelevant.

sammyvine
12-19-2013, 11:35 AM
I don't know how much of this is true but it's blatant that Rose is a selfish individual. He hopes they don't go into rebuilding mode after they spent millions for him to sit in benches? Gimme a break. Overrated and Paul George has made him irrelevant.

How do you know this is true? Where has he said this? it's funny you open your post with ''I don't know how much of this is true" and do the complete opposite with the previous article.

Also your last post sums up your basketball knowledge...How on earth has Paul George made him ''irrelevant''.:roll eyes:...Rose is injured, it's not like George has been outplaying him etc and Rose has come up small in those games..PG doesn't even play in the same position as Rose.

Big Zo
12-19-2013, 11:44 AM
Rose needs to worry about whether he can ever start in the D-league, and not a possible Bulls rebuild.

Ezio
12-19-2013, 11:47 AM
CBS) Complaining while not playing is a bad look for someone who has sold a phony reputation as a humble, team-oriented kid.

According to a story in the New York Daily News, Rose is now unhappy that the Bulls will have to reconstruct their roster in an effort to win a championship, apparently thinking that such a move would be a waste of his precious time and efforts. “Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’” Well, too bad.

What does he think they have, and where does he think it’s going? Most importantly, what does he not understand about the primary reason for the Bulls’ current plight? It takes some nerve to call out his employers after they have paid him 30% of their salary cap to miss consecutive seasons.

This is typical behavior from a player who has always done only what is in his personal best interest, everybody else be damned. He’ll take every last dollar, and enjoy all the team-supplied resources for medical consultations, surgeries, rehabilitation programs and various therapists, only to ignore their professional opinions just because he feels like it. And don’t bother asking him for even token assistance in welcoming potential free agents either, because he doesn’t want to.

At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.

It doesn’t help anything that Rose is not among the brightest bulbs, and that he still lives in an insular camp of cronies that is too often at odds with his team. It was understandable for him to be shielded from Englewood gangs and other unsavory influences enough to get him a fair shot at a pro career, but enough already. He’s 25 years old, in his fifth NBA season, is worth a quarter-billion dollars and has a family of his own, yet his uneducated oaf of an older brother remains the empowered svengali.

Reggie Rose is a clown, using the guise of brotherly love to aggrandize himself after a failed career as both player and coach that was marked by bizarre, immature behavior. Bulls officials have become increasingly frustrated by continued communication problems with Rose due to Reggie’s invasive influence, with one source telling WSCR “It’s like talking to a wall.”
Perhaps the best advice came from Charles Barkley last February, when he opined on TNT that instead of complaining about Bulls business, Reggie should “shut the hell up.”
Another problem is the presence of BJ Armstrong as part of Rose’s group as one of his agents. Armstrong’s personal bitterness toward Paxson and the Bulls runs long and deep: he’s still angry that he didn’t get the chance to replace Jerry Krause as GM and Paxson did, and the two former teammates are not on speaking terms. As long as he is allied with Rose there will be an undercurrent of conflict, with any comment or action subject to interpretation regarding ulterior motive.
Derrick Rose needs to grow up, wise up, and seize control of his image and career before he and the bozos around him fritter away a mountain of good will, scattering his civic capital to the winds.
He’s got the money, and that’s it.

He says he’s all about winning a championship, but then he carps about rebuilding when it appears his team is trying to do what it must to give him that very opportunity. That’s just dumb.

And it’s certainly not humble, so we can stop with that. The quiet superstar is quiet not because he is naturally self-effacing, but because he is bad at talking. The local-kid-made-good storyline is over. He likes to let his game speak for him, but then refuses to play even when instructed to by doctors. He opts for cartilage repair that requires a longer-term recovery, and then lacks the basic understanding of how that changes the team’s title trajectory.
As always, the Bulls are trying to take care of themselves while Derrick Rose tries to take care of Derrick Rose on the Bulls’ dime.

Sadly, the two endeavors don’t always seem to be working toward the same ends.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/bernstein-rose-no-longer-humble-hometown-kid/

:clap:

Dade County
12-19-2013, 11:47 AM
Whoever wrote this article seems to have an agenda.

NYKnickFanatic
12-19-2013, 11:53 AM
New York paper writing about a Chicago player, makes sense.

uptown0364
12-19-2013, 12:07 PM
This clown is trying to play the Jay Mariotti role of causing controversy when there isn't anything. The New York Daily News knows nothing and even in their article there isn't one quote from Rose saying anything. This is a prime example of the media needing to get visits in order to keep their bosses happy.

IKnowHoops
12-19-2013, 12:10 PM
Yeah, I think this article is coming off to hard on Rose. What star would want to go through a rebuild. Tell Bron that, Durant, Wade, Howard etc. If you told any of these guys they would laugh at you and bounce the first chance they got. Rose wants to be the best, he wants to win rings like the best.

Now to be fair, his injuries, and his not wanting to come back and play when cleared really does hurt his position. And his injuries are probably the cause of the Bulls going in this direction. So while I understand where Rose is coming from, he really doesn't have a leg to stand on (no pun intended). He hasn't contributed anything conducive to winning in 3 years, so he is not gonna have any say seeing as how his unfortunate circumstances have put the bulls in this precarious situation.

Slug3
12-19-2013, 12:32 PM
Don't know how much might be true, but Roses problem is he can't stay healthy. And if Chicago has to do a rebuild phase it will be because of him and his injuries wasting what time they had with this core.

DreamShaker
12-19-2013, 12:36 PM
This article did not need to be written. Nothing positive or insightful comes forth. Like IKH said, why would any star want to go through a rebuild and lose all his teammates? Who would possibly be happy about that? It's not like he has come out to the media about it.

The funniest thing I gathered was the tidbit about a fued between BJ Armstrong and John Paxson. I am not sure why it amuses me, but it does.

b1e9a8r5s
12-19-2013, 01:12 PM
Whoever wrote this article seems to have an agenda.

The article is by Dan Bernstien, who hosts a show on 670 the Score in Chicago. He's a known D-Bag.

Shammyguy3
12-19-2013, 01:18 PM
Yeah, Dan Bersnstien is the Chicago's version of Skip Bayless minus some of the ridiculous beliefs plus a whole lot more D-bag

Tony_Starks
12-19-2013, 01:21 PM
I'm no Bulls fan but that article seemed completely biased by someone that flat out doesn't like D Rose. Calling his brother "a clown?" Really? How professional and objective is that?

Then I looked up and saw New York Daily news and it all made sense....

Dade County
12-19-2013, 02:10 PM
I'm no Bulls fan but that article seemed completely biased by someone that flat out doesn't like D Rose. Calling his brother "a clown?" Really? How professional and objective is that?

Then I looked up and saw New York Daily news and it all made sense....

lol

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-19-2013, 03:12 PM
Rose should stfu and worrie about himself getting not injured

BKLYNpigeon
12-19-2013, 04:01 PM
Im sure, Lebron, Melo, Durant Westbrook, Wade, Kobe, Dwight, Novitzski, Love, Curry, Duncan, Parker, etc. all feel the same way.

who cares.

smith&wesson
12-19-2013, 04:15 PM
doesnt rondo not want to be a part of a rebuild in boston as well ? I think Rose has missed a lot of time, and missing further opportunities to win and sticking through a rebuild in his prime would be foolish. I dont think their is anything to raise eyebrows here.

smith&wesson
12-19-2013, 04:16 PM
Im sure, Lebron, Melo, Durant Westbrook, Wade, Kobe, Dwight, Novitzski, Love, Curry, Duncan, Parker, etc. all feel the same way.

who cares.

+1

O_Touro
12-19-2013, 04:19 PM
New York paper writing about a Chicago player, makes sense.

This

O_Touro
12-19-2013, 04:21 PM
Rose should stfu and worrie about himself getting not injured

So basically he should sit on the couch? Because if you play you can get injured, its as simple as that... ask kobe/westbrook/love/....

blahblahyoutoo
12-19-2013, 04:25 PM
rose also sounds like a mental midget plagued with down syndrome during interviews.

MyDRoseLikeDeng
12-19-2013, 04:26 PM
I don't know how much of this is true but it's blatant that Rose is a selfish individual. He hopes they don't go into rebuilding mode after they spent millions for him to sit in benches? Gimme a break. Overrated and Paul George has made him irrelevant.

Yea its definitely blatant alright. Lets imagine you were in his situation and the Bulls were paying you 20 mil a year or whatever. Then lets imagine you tore your acl or meniscus, or perhaps both. Would you be playing or sitting on the bench? Ignorance man...

O_Touro
12-19-2013, 04:29 PM
rose also sounds like a mental midget plagued with down syndrome during interviews.

At least he doesnt pick up fights with team mates, right? :rolleyes:

quade36
12-19-2013, 04:37 PM
Dan Bernstein is a moron. He yells at callers telling them how stupid they are on public airways. He always feels he knows more yet has no actual insight on a given topic. He probably has never even talked to Rose as he is not part of the Bulls media at all and does not even go to games.

Dan Bernstein, who you crapping?

FlashBolt
12-19-2013, 04:53 PM
Rose did not play for nearly two years. This year he didn't do anything so that doesn't count. Rose has the nerve to not want his team to rebuild? Telling his brother that they needed to get more help? This kid had it all. Noah, Boozer, Deng, Gibson, Korver. These are players any superstar would want as a supporting cast. He didn't win, got injured, got injured again, and then has the nerve to want to not rebuild.. Rose isn't even going to come back the same as before. In his peak, he wouldn't even crack top 5 today.

Goose17
12-19-2013, 05:16 PM
LOL one of the most poorly written and biased articles I have ever laid eyes on. Awful.

MyDRoseLikeDeng
12-19-2013, 05:20 PM
Rose did not play for nearly two years. This year he didn't do anything so that doesn't count. Rose has the nerve to not want his team to rebuild? Telling his brother that they needed to get more help? This kid had it all. Noah, Boozer, Deng, Gibson, Korver. These are players any superstar would want as a supporting cast. He didn't win, got injured, got injured again, and then has the nerve to want to not rebuild.. Rose isn't even going to come back the same as before. In his peak, he wouldn't even crack top 5 today.


You obviously are not aware of the situation in Chicago. Rose doesn't want to rebuild, meaning he DOESNT want to lose what he already has. Can you blame him? He isnt blasting his supporting cast or saying that he wants an improvement, he is just scared of the Bulls losing the assets they already have for nothing. Also, he signed his contract extension BEFORE the injuries, so to say it was selfish of him is blasphemous because ANY superstar player would have expected that kind of money.

waveycrockett
12-19-2013, 05:31 PM
A few bad investment deals and Derrick Rose is the next Antoine Walker or Iverson will the Chicago Bulls and their fans be there to help pay his bills? It's always funny when fans begin to slander and hate their own star players because they want to look out for themselves. Derrick Rose needs to do whats best for Derrick Rose period Not the Chicago Bulls. People need to wake the hell up. Why should Rose want to come back to a rebuilding team that's even further behind the HEAT and the Pacers next year? If the Bulls FO and their fans dont like it then trade him. Coming off two major knee surgeries on BOTH knees Rose realizes he needs MORE help than ever not less.

KingPosey
12-19-2013, 05:38 PM
Derrick Rose isn't worth $250 million dollars.

sammyvine
12-19-2013, 05:42 PM
Derrick Rose isn't worth $250 million dollars.

who said? he is one of the most marketable players in the league

you mad?

MyDRoseLikeDeng
12-19-2013, 05:48 PM
Derrick Rose isn't worth $250 million dollars.

Thank you captain Hindsight

MassoDio
12-19-2013, 06:18 PM
Derrick Rose isn't worth $250 million dollars.

That's really not for you to decide, since you know, you aren't paying him. Besides that, the revenue generated because of him says otherwise.

As far as the article goes, there are so many things in it that are pure speculation or rhetoric spewed by the writer, that it is hard to even begin spelling out the inaccuracies.

For one though, no one has heard Rose say these things. "A league source" is what he is quoting. Come on....

Two, the statement of "He didn't even come back and play when he was instructed to by his management." (I am paraphrasing) No one on the Bulls staff, management, doctors, coaches, players, no one, "instructed" him to come back. He was "cleared" to play medically. He was also told by Reinsdorf not to come back until he was 100% ready. So that statement by the writer, is in itself, nothing but rhetoric that shows the distorted agenda he is trying to promote.

And one other thing. Rose SHOULDN'T want to rebuild if he feels this team is good enough to win a championship if he is healthy. The fact that he doesn't want to rebuild, thinking they are good enough with what they have, DEMONSTRATES that he wants to win. Any player, regardless of talent, has EVERY RIGHT to not want to go through a rebuilding process. They are all in this league to try and win. Players who are fine with losing, are the ones that are only it for the money. So to say he is selfish for not wanting to rebuild is not only asinine, it is just flat out the complete opposite of the truth.

I don't happen to think the Bulls could beat the Heat or the Pacers, as currently constructed, so I believe they need to rebuild (or retool really) in order to get where Rose wants to go. But if Rose doesn't see it that way, it only means that he feels he has enough to win already. And this is only if he actually said any of this.

For whatever reason, people just want to find a reason to knock this kid. It's like he went around and slapped everyone's mamma or something.

Shlumpledink
12-19-2013, 06:31 PM
Rose has always been a really humble guy. He let someone else pretend to be him for a day, and do his SATs for him. What a great guy. Really humble, doing down to earth things like cheating on placement exams to get to go to the college that was willing to pay him the most money and look the other way.

blahblahyoutoo
12-19-2013, 06:39 PM
Rose has always been a really humble guy. He let someone else pretend to be him for a day, and do his SATs for him. What a great guy. Really humble, doing down to earth things like cheating on placement exams to get to go to the college that was willing to pay him the most money and look the other way.

lol, true story?
makes sense and explains his lack of eloquence. then again, most of the nba probably would fail 3rd grade math/english. is I right?

Gibby23
12-19-2013, 07:13 PM
who said? he is one of the most marketable players in the league

you mad?

He isn't really marketable anymore, adidas is stuck with him and he hasn't been picking up any new sponsors over the last year or 2.

Linkels
12-19-2013, 07:17 PM
He isn't really marketable anymore, adidas is stuck with him and he hasn't been picking up any new sponsors over the last year or 2.

Isn't he like still third this year in bestselling jerseys?

Gibby23
12-19-2013, 07:24 PM
Isn't he like still third this year in bestselling jerseys?

And? He was 1 in 2011, 2 in 2012, and now 3.

barreleffact
12-19-2013, 07:32 PM
When was Rose ever humble? They always try to market someone as such, and then their true persona is revealed after their second NBA contract. Look at LBJ. For the longest time he was the NBA sweetheart because they HAD to replace Kobe from relevancy due to the rape trial. Then KD HAD to replace LBJ as the humble guy. Then Rose. I mean, let these guys be who/what they are because none of them are particularly humble guys. Hell, Rose had a number of narcissistic things dating back to college at least. It isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

John Walls Era
12-19-2013, 07:39 PM
The only problem is Reggie Rose. I don't really think Derrick is in the wrong at all.

WES KOAST
12-19-2013, 07:46 PM
stupid article

rose wants what's best for him, what's wrong with that? LeBron did the same thing, he left to win.

and yet teams aren't loyal to their players either, they just trade away players not taking into account how much trouble it is to be uprooted. imagine your company shipping you off to a different city? what about your home, friends, family, kids, school, etc. your entire world is turned upside down

ramsizzle
12-19-2013, 07:48 PM
And? He was 1 in 2011, 2 in 2012, and now 3.

that ranking is probably in america.... the world loves rose. hes probably number one in the far east. and the number three jersey in sales for a player who has only played 50 games the last three years, really lost his marketing value.... smh. :rolleyes: he is as popular as ever and is adidas's top american athlete. they arent stuck with him....

Gibby23
12-19-2013, 07:52 PM
that ranking is probably in america.... the world loves rose. hes probably number one in the far east. and the number three jersey in sales for a player who has only played 50 games the last three years, really lost his marketing value.... smh. :rolleyes: he is as popular as ever and is adidas's top american athlete. they arent stuck with him....

And he won't get another major sponsor until he is on the court again. The world loved Rose, he hasn't been around long enough and if he gets hurt again or isn't the same will flame out like Lil Penny, but at a faster pace.

bholly
12-19-2013, 11:08 PM
double post.

bholly
12-19-2013, 11:08 PM
CBS) Complaining while not playing is a bad look for someone who has sold a phony reputation as a humble, team-oriented kid.

According to a story in the New York Daily News, Rose is now unhappy that the Bulls will have to reconstruct their roster in an effort to win a championship, apparently thinking that such a move would be a waste of his precious time and efforts. “Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’” Well, too bad.

What does he think they have, and where does he think it’s going? Most importantly, what does he not understand about the primary reason for the Bulls’ current plight? It takes some nerve to call out his employers after they have paid him 30% of their salary cap to miss consecutive seasons.

This is typical behavior from a player who has always done only what is in his personal best interest, everybody else be damned. He’ll take every last dollar, and enjoy all the team-supplied resources for medical consultations, surgeries, rehabilitation programs and various therapists, only to ignore their professional opinions just because he feels like it. And don’t bother asking him for even token assistance in welcoming potential free agents either, because he doesn’t want to.

At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.

It doesn’t help anything that Rose is not among the brightest bulbs, and that he still lives in an insular camp of cronies that is too often at odds with his team. It was understandable for him to be shielded from Englewood gangs and other unsavory influences enough to get him a fair shot at a pro career, but enough already. He’s 25 years old, in his fifth NBA season, is worth a quarter-billion dollars and has a family of his own, yet his uneducated oaf of an older brother remains the empowered svengali.

Reggie Rose is a clown, using the guise of brotherly love to aggrandize himself after a failed career as both player and coach that was marked by bizarre, immature behavior. Bulls officials have become increasingly frustrated by continued communication problems with Rose due to Reggie’s invasive influence, with one source telling WSCR “It’s like talking to a wall.”
Perhaps the best advice came from Charles Barkley last February, when he opined on TNT that instead of complaining about Bulls business, Reggie should “shut the hell up.”
Another problem is the presence of BJ Armstrong as part of Rose’s group as one of his agents. Armstrong’s personal bitterness toward Paxson and the Bulls runs long and deep: he’s still angry that he didn’t get the chance to replace Jerry Krause as GM and Paxson did, and the two former teammates are not on speaking terms. As long as he is allied with Rose there will be an undercurrent of conflict, with any comment or action subject to interpretation regarding ulterior motive.
Derrick Rose needs to grow up, wise up, and seize control of his image and career before he and the bozos around him fritter away a mountain of good will, scattering his civic capital to the winds.
He’s got the money, and that’s it.

He says he’s all about winning a championship, but then he carps about rebuilding when it appears his team is trying to do what it must to give him that very opportunity. That’s just dumb.

And it’s certainly not humble, so we can stop with that. The quiet superstar is quiet not because he is naturally self-effacing, but because he is bad at talking. The local-kid-made-good storyline is over. He likes to let his game speak for him, but then refuses to play even when instructed to by doctors. He opts for cartilage repair that requires a longer-term recovery, and then lacks the basic understanding of how that changes the team’s title trajectory.
As always, the Bulls are trying to take care of themselves while Derrick Rose tries to take care of Derrick Rose on the Bulls’ dime.

Sadly, the two endeavors don’t always seem to be working toward the same ends.


http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/18/bernstein-rose-no-longer-humble-hometown-kid/

Agree with what everyone else has said about the source and the bias and all that. Awful article.
Just wanted to add the bolded: even if it wasn't a ******** article with a clear bias, essentially what it's telling us we're supposed to be upset about is that he told 'confidantes' that he didn't want to blow the team up? Um, why should we be upset about that? That's a perfectly legitimate point of view. All I take from this is that, in the unlikely event this actually came from a 'confidante', DRose needs to do a better job deciding who to trust a a 'confidante'. That's it.

ManRam
12-19-2013, 11:15 PM
Rose got put on a pedestal far too fast...in all regards. I don't disagree with that.

But this article sucks. Sucks hard.

nyknicks1969
12-19-2013, 11:54 PM
Every major NBA player who has removed cartlidge/tendon instead of reattaching is an idiot. Ask Dwayne Wade. Better to reattach and let it heal.

With that said, if a grown man does not want to have the responsibility of a grown man ... then he deserves what he gets. Don't need a College Degree to know that much.

smiddy012
12-20-2013, 12:23 AM
Flashboldt and theheatles are some top quality posters here on PSD obviously.

IversonIsKrazy
12-20-2013, 12:56 AM
Lol damn a hater wrote that wow. I mean Rose I'm sure is not happy, but I guarentee u it's more sadness about losing the teammates he considers his brothers. And he will keep it to himself, not randomly go on a burst to a public source lol. Straight hating this article.

naps
12-20-2013, 02:46 AM
Who cares. Bulls need to move past Derrick Rose though. The sooner they realize it, the brighter their future becomes. At this point, they should absolutely go suck-to-rebuild mode where they can get as many first round picks as possible. If Rose comes back healthy it's a bonus, if not then you still have got a plethora of picks to go into the future.

Rndy
12-20-2013, 03:24 AM
New York paper writing about a Chicago player, makes sense.

That is like the 4th one this week by New York wonder why...

What is Rose supposed to say though really? I don't want these guys? The same guys that never once threw him under the bus last year of course he's going to say he wants them here who the hell wouldn't in his shoe? It's a lose lose situation the fact that people on forums make a big deal about athletes perceived opinions is mind boggling who gives a ****.

And the OP who is always so concerned with everything Bulls related should worry about his own players like when Rio snaps and stabs Lebron in his sleep.

TheBigChief
12-20-2013, 04:31 AM
I'm no Bulls fan but that article seemed completely biased by someone that flat out doesn't like D Rose. Calling his brother "a clown?" Really? How professional and objective is that?

Then I looked up and saw New York Daily news and it all made sense....

while i agree the article seemed to have a bias against derrick, its 100% accurate to call reggie rose a clown imo

TheBigChief
12-20-2013, 04:33 AM
Who cares. Bulls need to move past Derrick Rose though. The sooner they realize it, the brighter their future becomes. At this point, they should absolutely go suck-to-rebuild mode where they can get as many first round picks as possible. If Rose comes back healthy it's a bonus, if not then you still have got a plethora of picks to go into the future.

wtf? lmao DUMBEST thing i ever heard...even if rose only plays 75% as good as before the injury, he's still a top 10 pg......smack yourself

Rndy
12-20-2013, 04:58 AM
while i agree the article seemed to have a bias against derrick, its 100% accurate to call reggie rose a clown imo

His brother is a clown but this article is awful.

85BearsDefense
12-20-2013, 05:07 AM
rose also sounds like a mental midget plagued with down syndrome during interviews.

Stay classy

naps
12-20-2013, 05:12 AM
wtf? lmao DUMBEST thing i ever heard...even if rose only plays 75% as good as before the injury, he's still a top 10 pg......smack yourself

And a 75% Rose by no means is a cornerstone of a franchise. Not to mention it's a no-brainer and safer to not trust his knees in the long run. Do you understand what I meant by "moving past"? Obviously you don't have any idea of building a team.

TheBigChief
12-20-2013, 06:12 AM
And a 75% Rose by no means is a cornerstone of a franchise. Not to mention it's a no-brainer and safer to not trust his knees in the long run. Do you understand what I meant by "moving past"? Obviously you don't have any idea of building a team.

well no **** you still try to get a franchise player, but still keep rose...dont try to cover up your dumb *** statement by making it seem like i didnt understand...as if "move past derrick rose" is some kind of unbreakable divinci code lol gtfoh

GoferKing_
12-20-2013, 06:50 AM
Best part : "According to a story in the New York Daily News"

Must be true. no? xD

naps
12-20-2013, 05:50 PM
well no **** you still try to get a franchise player, but still keep rose...dont try to cover up your dumb *** statement by making it seem like i didnt understand...as if "move past derrick rose" is some kind of unbreakable divinci code lol gtfoh

You sound very upset. Moving past Derrick Rose is not necessarily getting rid of him. It means they should not build their future around him anymore. Stop getting you panties in a bunch. It's not my fault that you're an emotional kid who gets upset because I expressed my opinion about your hero.

TheBigChief
12-21-2013, 12:59 AM
You sound very upset. Moving past Derrick Rose is not necessarily getting rid of him. It means they should not build their future around him anymore. Stop getting you panties in a bunch. It's not my fault that you're an emotional kid who gets upset because I expressed my opinion about your hero.

bro i was tired last night, i probably did overreact a little bit....i actually agree with your statement. i think rose should be looked at and utilized as a 2nd option when he returns from this 2nd injury. I think pre-injury we saw what happens when he is the go-to guy, they just dont have enough mustard to get past miami, and even if he didnt get hurt, indiana would have treated us like prositutes in the playoffs this year.

It's time for Chicago to rethink their long term strategy. imo i think getting inside the top 10 for the draft would be outstanding, but knowing thibs, we probably start to pick it up throughout the season. but "if" chicago somehow ends up with a top 10 pick and lands aaron gordon, rodney hood, or maybe even marcus smart, we can shape up real nice for next year.

"possible" 2014 chciago bulls

pg - Derrick Rose/ Marcus Smart
sg - Jimmy Butler/ Marcus Smart
sf - Carmelo Anthony (let deng walk, amnesty boozer)
pf - Nikola Mirotec
c - Joakim Noah
______________________

4/5 Taj Gibson
2/3 MDJ
1/2 DJ
1/2 Kirk
2/3 Snell

"hopefully" chicago fans...."hopefully"

To me that off-season would be a "best-case scenario"