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DreamShaker
11-09-2013, 03:11 AM
So there are more and more guys coming out that are "upside" guys with a severe lack of refined skill. Who are some guys who fit that bill? And who are some past guys who fit that bill that fizzled out? And does it really totally matter? Is it the cream rising to the top no matter how "ready" they are? I'm curious to see yall's thoughts.

Mr_Jones
11-09-2013, 03:33 AM
tittays

black1605
11-09-2013, 03:34 AM
As a Duke fan, I think Austin Rivers would have benefited greatly from an extra year or two under Coach K. His family is obviously well off, so money couldn't have been the motivating factor for him to go pro. Sad to see him struggle in New Orleans.

sunsfan88
11-09-2013, 03:39 AM
Jimmer.

DreamShaker
11-09-2013, 03:53 AM
tittays

I am a butt man myself, but thanks for that.

One guy who sticks out to me is Terrance Jones. Dude is a gifted athlete, but seems really immature and has a really low basketball IQ. If he could have stayed till his senior year (this year) maybe he could have had a better time coming in the NBA. Right now, he can't crack any minutes on a team with no power forward. It is pretty sad.

Mr_Jones
11-09-2013, 04:04 AM
I am a butt man myself, but thanks for that.

One guy who sticks out to me is Terrance Jones. Dude is a gifted athlete, but seems really immature and has a really low basketball IQ. If he could have stayed till his senior year (this year) maybe he could have had a better time coming in the NBA. Right now, he can't crack any minutes on a team with no power forward. It is pretty sad.

you like man butts. tittays

DTownSkitzo
11-09-2013, 04:21 AM
Kwame Brown. Yeah you cannot teach hands but an 18 yr old Kwame got destroyed by Michael Jordan's criticism only to go to LA and have his confidence shattered by Kobe. Once he got out of LA he stop caring for basketball.

Steelers23_06
11-09-2013, 04:59 AM
Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Jeremy Lamb, Perry Jones, Fab Melo, Derrick Favors, Michael Beasley, Anthony Randolph, Tyrus Thomas.

J4KOP99
11-09-2013, 12:38 PM
As a Duke fan, I think Austin Rivers would have benefited greatly from an extra year or two under Coach K. His family is obviously well off, so money couldn't have been the motivating factor for him to go pro. Sad to see him struggle in New Orleans.

I am also a Duke fan and I definitely agree with you here. Not a smart decision for him at all.

-Also, since you are a Duke fan, you should join some of us other Duke fans in the College Basketball forum.

omdigga
11-09-2013, 12:40 PM
Omar Cook

lol, please
11-09-2013, 06:27 PM
So there are more and more guys coming out that are "upside" guys with a severe lack of refined skill. Who are some guys who fit that bill? And who are some past guys who fit that bill that fizzled out? And does it really totally matter? Is it the cream rising to the top no matter how "ready" they are? I'm curious to see yall's thoughts.

Kobe.

JasonJohnHorn
11-09-2013, 07:25 PM
Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Jeremy Lamb, Perry Jones, Fab Melo, Derrick Favors, Michael Beasley, Anthony Randolph, Tyrus Thomas.

This.

I'd add Tracy McGrady as well.

b_russ
11-09-2013, 07:46 PM
I hate to say it but Kidd-Gilchrist. Granted, Calipari brought in Goodwin and Poythress who would have been the new hot Freshmen which Kentucky's specialty is to showcase them. They probably would have stole some of MKG's minutes and being a sophomore would have hurt his draft stock. The possibility of him being the featured star and leader of the team could have done wonders to his confidence and game which would have better prepared him for the NBA and especially helped in his role in Charlotte. I still have hope that he can be a star but the situation he's currently in hopefully won't hinder his growth.

ThaDubs
11-09-2013, 07:49 PM
Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Jeremy Lamb, Perry Jones, Fab Melo, Derrick Favors, Michael Beasley, Anthony Randolph, Tyrus Thomas.

Hell no. Michael Beasley was on the all-rookie first team in his first season and averaged 19.2 ppg in his second season (as a Miami fan you should know that lol).

zn23
11-09-2013, 07:52 PM
Sebastian Telfair is the obvious choice here. He should have went to Louisville to get one year at least, under a coach like Rick Pitino. Instead he entered the NBA with an inconsistent jump shot, small size, and just low intelligence.

Rivers definitely could have used at least 1 more year, maybe even 2 more at Duke.

2-ONE-5
11-09-2013, 09:49 PM
Robert Swift
Kwame Brown
Eddie Curry
Shumpert
Xavier Henry

JEDean89
11-09-2013, 10:00 PM
i think of guys like quincy miller and jeff teague. i don't get the point of being a one and done if you can climb in the draft the next year.

Hulk6
11-09-2013, 11:03 PM
Shabazz
Thabeet
Adm morrison
Oden

flea
11-09-2013, 11:10 PM
Hell no. Michael Beasley was on the all-rookie first team in his first season and averaged 19.2 ppg in his second season (as a Miami fan you should know that lol).

True, but if he'd actually committed to working on his game he could have improved. Sure he could do that in the NBA too, but it's better to find your role in college. He should have understood this too because tweener forwards are basically useless in the NBA unless they can be a defensive specialist (AK47) or score a lot (Melo). He's not a PF in the NBA and his coach or he should have tried to work on his perimeter skills more.

Take, for example, Kyle Singler. He played PF most of the time his first couple of years in college but Coach K shifted to SF since that was all he could play at the next level. He's not exactly an asset on defense, but at least he can stick as a role player due to his shooting/size.

ztilzer31
11-09-2013, 11:44 PM
Martell Webster. Should of gone to UW for a couple year before hitting up the pro's. Great story. Kid's mom was killed by Gary Ridgway and didn't see his father till after he signed his first contract. Good success story, but could of been better basketball player.

ewing
11-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Robert Swift
Kwame Brown
Eddie Curry
Shumpert
Xavier Henry

Swift is a good one. He was way to light when he came in the league. Kid still could have turn into a player if he didn't get hurt. I think Kwame turned in the player he was going to anyway. Dude had stone hands and no touch. If college helped Eddie mature that would have been very good for him. Shump is fine. He's been a contributor from the jump and is getting better. Im not sure about Henry.

ewing
11-10-2013, 12:18 AM
Eddie Curry
JR Smith
Bassy
Gerald Green

JasonJohnHorn
11-10-2013, 02:39 AM
I'll got with Arvydas Sabonis. If he had waited a little longer, he could have won ROY. Same could be said for Chris Copeland and Pablo Prigioni. If those guys have waited, they could have been All-Stars their first year.

Losoway
11-10-2013, 02:52 AM
I'll got with Arvydas Sabonis. If he had waited a little longer, he could have won ROY. Same could be said for Chris Copeland and Pablo Prigioni. If those guys have waited, they could have been All-Stars their first year.

some of the dumbest stuff i read in a while

COOLbeans
11-10-2013, 03:14 AM
Monta

Raps18-19 Champ
11-10-2013, 05:14 AM
All the players who lack fundamental and relied too much on athleticism but ended up underachieving because of it.

tmacsc2
11-10-2013, 05:43 AM
This.

I'd add Tracy McGrady as well.

What? Why he dominated the league, he just got injured too much.

tmacsc2
11-10-2013, 05:44 AM
That dude has got to be using sarcasm

TrueFan420
11-10-2013, 05:53 AM
Hell no. Michael Beasley was on the all-rookie first team in his first season and averaged 19.2 ppg in his second season (as a Miami fan you should know that lol).

Yea but he needed grow up maturity level wise and college could have helped him

Rndy
11-10-2013, 05:57 AM
I always thought Howard was a guy who could have really benefited going to college even if it was for one year possibly he could have learned some post footwork.

PhillyFaninLA
11-10-2013, 07:23 AM
I always thought that Marcus Camby could have been Tim Duncan if he stayed in school all 4 years. I made that association because if I'm remembering correctly they came out same year and I though Camby was better or potentially better at that time and after watching the careers I thought Duncan being more refined because of college made him the better pro.

R. Johnson#3
11-10-2013, 07:44 AM
Tyson Chandler and Amir Johnson.

cvburg
11-10-2013, 08:54 AM
Marvin Williams my unc dude....was one of Biggest draft busts

Bishnoff
11-14-2013, 11:07 PM
I always thought Howard was a guy who could have really benefited going to college even if it was for one year possibly he could have learned some post footwork.

I definitely agree about Dwight. I'd put Amar'e in the same boat. College might have helped him learn some defense and prolonged the life of his knees.

Steelers23_06
11-14-2013, 11:56 PM
Hell no. Michael Beasley was on the all-rookie first team in his first season and averaged 19.2 ppg in his second season (as a Miami fan you should know that lol).

na its not his skill-set but his maturity level. NBA is not good for people who aren't mentally ready for the lights and stardom that come with it. another year in college could have helped him develop better leadership qualities since he would have to take the incoming freshmen under his wing.

PurpleJesus
11-15-2013, 12:37 AM
Blake Griffin

koreancabbage
11-15-2013, 12:56 AM
meh. what would be the difference if they had stayed in school - be more consistent role players and be more than what they are now?

high school players have come into the league and have become superstar players. everyone is different but I don't think it makes that much of a difference. I mean i saw some names mentioned above like Tyson Chandler and Amir Johnson. I mean they are what they are but have become more consistent. I don't think staying in school any longer would have helped them other than spending more time away from the game of basketball.

PurpleJesus
11-15-2013, 01:07 AM
Jonathan Bender

UPRock
11-15-2013, 01:18 AM
Michael Kidd Gilchrist, he's awesome, he just need that jumpshot.