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FOBolous
09-20-2013, 12:27 PM
Early 2000's

PG - Jason Kidd / Allen Iverson (1x MVP, 4x scoring champ)
SG - Kobe Bryant (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ) / Vince Carter
SF - Kevin Garnett (1x MVP, 1x DPOY), Tracy McGrady (2x scoring champ)
PF - Tim Duncan (2x MVP) / Ben Wallace (4x DPOY)
C - Shaq (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ,) / Yao Ming

TOTAL 5 MVP players, 2 DPOYs, and 4 scoring champs

Late 2000's

PG - Chris Paul / Steve Nash (2x MVP)
SG - Kobe Bryant (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ) / Dwayne Wade (1x scoring champ)
SF - Lebron James (4x MVP, 1x scoring champ) / Kevin Durant (3x scoring champ)
PF - Dirk Nowitzki (1x MVP) / Carmelo Anthony (1x scoring champ)
C - Dwight Howard (3x DPOY) / Amare Stoudemire

TOTAL 4 MVP players, 1 DPOYs, and 5 scoring champs

kdspurman
09-20-2013, 12:48 PM
Early's for me.

FlashBolt
09-20-2013, 12:53 PM
I can't believe I would ever go against Shaq, but I'm going with late 2000's. LeBron and KD are deadly.

SMH!
09-20-2013, 12:59 PM
That Early 2000 team :worthy:

Hawkeye15
09-20-2013, 01:06 PM
Shaq makes it early.

effen5
09-20-2013, 01:07 PM
Nash was drafted in 96....why would he be in the late 2000s?

ThuglifeJ
09-20-2013, 01:07 PM
Early 2000s are my favorite era in ball. 90s and the magic/bird era are awesome obviously but the early 2000s had the most talented offensive players we've seen. Not a fan of late 2000s/current

effen5
09-20-2013, 01:07 PM
Early 2000's for me.

effen5
09-20-2013, 01:09 PM
Early 2000s are my favorite era in ball. 90s and the magic/bird era are awesome obviously but the early 2000s had the most talented offensive players we've seen. Not a fan of late 2000s/current

90s was my favorite obviously with Jordan but early 2000's had some great ball...Lakers and Kings going at it was one of my favorites....I loved watching Webber and Williams

ShockerArt
09-20-2013, 01:13 PM
The center position swings it in favor of the early 2000s.

FOBolous
09-20-2013, 01:58 PM
Nash was drafted in 96....why would he be in the late 2000s?

cause Nash's career didn't "peak" until he was with the Phoenix Suns after the great players of the early 2000's started to fade

DreamShaker
09-20-2013, 02:01 PM
Nash was drafted in 96....why would he be in the late 2000s?

Nash peaked in his 30's. All his best seasons were 2005 and later.

DreamShaker
09-20-2013, 02:06 PM
That is tough. I would go early 2000's for the same reason most people are. I just think Shaq on that Lakers 3-peat team was the most unstoppable player I have ever seen. He would have destroyed anyone who tried to guard him. Throw in TD and KG from that time frame, and the big man battle would be a nightmare. Lebron and KD would be tough, but T-Mac and Vinsanity were no joke.

jstone0716
09-20-2013, 02:25 PM
90's and early 2000's were definitely my favorite. I hate where the league is now. Everyone trying to form a bunch of super teams to beat the heat. No one sticks with their franchise anymore like Timmy or Dirk, and look at how Paul Pierce got pawned off in a heartbeat for no reason. That guy deserved to finish his career in Boston after he stuck with them for so long. Then you have just a bunch of team hoppers looking for a quick ride to a ring and a cool city to live in.

Sly Guy
09-20-2013, 04:49 PM
earlys. KD and Lebron are great, no doubt, but the balance on the early 2000's team is better. Plus, Shaq.....

Hellcrooner
09-20-2013, 05:12 PM
you are missing someone on the late 00s team.

jerellh528
09-20-2013, 06:16 PM
you are missing someone on the late 00s team.

Who? Calderon, pau, or Marc gasol, ibaka, victor claver?

jerellh528
09-20-2013, 06:18 PM
Earlys easy. I actually think the late 90s/ early 2000s was one of the most talented times ever.

ThuglifeJ
09-20-2013, 06:44 PM
Earlys easy. I actually think the late 90s/ early 2000s was one of the most talented times ever.

Because it was. Each team had their own superstar. and then the Lakers had two.

IndyRealist
09-20-2013, 07:54 PM
Iverson, Yao, Melo, and Stoudamire don't belong in this conversation. At all.

topdog
09-20-2013, 10:39 PM
Even without Shaq, I take early 2000s. That team actually has a defensive reputation to go with elite offense.

topdog
09-20-2013, 10:43 PM
earlys. KD and Lebron are great, no doubt, but the balance on the early 2000's team is better. Plus, Shaq.....

My NBA fandom fantasy wish is that those two play together at some point (preferably sooner than later). They seemed like an incredible tandem in the Olympics and I want to see that in the NBA for 98 games.

Kingz4L
09-20-2013, 10:52 PM
Early 2000's, I would put AI over Kobe there too since he was better at that time..

Hawkeye15
09-20-2013, 11:08 PM
Even without Shaq, I take early 2000s. That team actually has a defensive reputation to go with elite offense.

without Shaq, easily the late version.

Raps08-09 Champ
09-20-2013, 11:08 PM
Early because the Late don't have the big men to contain 3 top 20 all time greats.

Hawkeye15
09-20-2013, 11:08 PM
Early 2000's, I would put AI over Kobe there too since he was better at that time..

absolutely no way AI was better than Kobe in the first 5 years of the 00's

Raps08-09 Champ
09-20-2013, 11:13 PM
That should be the lineup for the Early 00's.

PG - Jason Kidd / Allen Iverson (1x MVP, 4x scoring champ)
SG - Kobe Bryant (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ) / Ray Allen
SF - Tracy McGrady (2x scoring champ) / Vince Carter
PF - Tim Duncan (2x MVP) / Kevin Garnett (1x MVP, 1x DPOY)
C - Shaq (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ,) / Ben Wallace (4x DPOY)

dnl123
09-20-2013, 11:29 PM
The early 2000's frontcourt Duncan, Shaq, and KG poop all over Dirk and Howard, it's not even fair haha.

topdog
09-20-2013, 11:32 PM
without Shaq, easily the late version.

Because of Lebron?

I get that he's the best player in the NBA, but the early 2000s has KG and Duncan holding down the paint and a couple prolific scorers in Kobe and McGrady. Kidd helps act as glue while again being a top-notch defender at his position.

Late 2000s has a lot of scorers, but their bigs are all basically one-way players and only one's "way" is defense.

Tony_Starks
09-21-2013, 12:01 AM
Prime time AI, Kobe, and Tmac would be unstoppable. Especially with J Kidd feeding them. Their wing defense would also be pretty sick...

Supreme LA
09-21-2013, 12:37 AM
without Shaq, easily the late version.

I don't understand where you could really argue for that statement. Lebron is great but KG & Duncan on the same team is just too much for the late. Throw in Kobe & T-Mac and there's no way the late can defend that team, while KG & Duncan would shut down the paint against Lebron.

ThuglifeJ
09-21-2013, 12:39 AM
That should be the lineup for the Early 00's.

PG - Jason Kidd / Allen Iverson (1x MVP, 4x scoring champ)
SG - Kobe Bryant (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ) / Ray Allen
SF - Tracy McGrady (2x scoring champ) / Vince Carter
PF - Tim Duncan (2x MVP) / Kevin Garnett (1x MVP, 1x DPOY)
C - Shaq (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ,) / Ben Wallace (4x DPOY)

+1 thank you...I was OCDing on the ops lineup as well. That lineup right there is just perfect

MTar786
09-21-2013, 02:28 AM
early 00's easily. you can't compete with shaq,duncan,kg and kobe on one team. best two pf's EVER 2nd best sg ever and arguably the best C ever. infact you could argue early 2000 shaq as the GOAT.

MTar786
09-21-2013, 02:32 AM
btw please take wallace out and add Cwebb. big mistake by you

MTar786
09-21-2013, 02:37 AM
That should be the lineup for the Early 00's.

PG - Jason Kidd / Gary Payton
SG - Kobe Bryant (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ) / iverson
SF - Tracy McGrady (2x scoring champ) / Vince Carter
PF - Tim Duncan (2x MVP) / Kevin Garnett (1x MVP, 1x DPOY) / chris webber
C - Shaq (1x MVP, 2x scoring champ,) / Yao

hm. pierce and ray


fixed

heyman321
09-21-2013, 12:37 PM
Early 2000's and it's not close. They just have way better big men and defensive players with just as good wings.

kdspurman
09-21-2013, 12:41 PM
Because of Lebron?

I get that he's the best player in the NBA, but the early 2000s has KG and Duncan holding down the paint and a couple prolific scorers in Kobe and McGrady. Kidd helps act as glue while again being a top-notch defender at his position.

Late 2000s has a lot of scorers, but their bigs are all basically one-way players and only one's "way" is defense.

I agree, even without Shaq, a front court of KG/Duncan would be dominant defensively, and have their way with the the front line of the late 2000's offensively. Hell, just look at what 37 year old Duncan did with Dwight in the playoffs.

Then you throw in T-Mac & Kobe, I think they handle their business. Losing Shaq means they lose that dominant force, but it probably makes their defense even better having a KG/Duncan front court. Much more versatile on that end than Shaq was.

SPURSFAN1
09-21-2013, 10:15 PM
wow is this even a debate? anyone who picks late is just straight dumb.

nytunnelvision
09-21-2013, 10:42 PM
Anyone thinks Rasheed Wallace would be a good fit on the early 2000 team? He's more of an ideal complementary player (and more deserving) than Yao imo.

Oh yea, early 2000s by a mile. Would win a best out of 7 in about 5 games

todu82
09-23-2013, 09:43 AM
Late 2000's