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PatsSoxKnicks
08-22-2013, 03:51 AM
Every summer, PSD holds a game which mocks that year's NBA offseason. This year, users from the site took the reigns of NBA franchises and had to utilize their skills via draft, trades, and free agency to improve their teams. At the end of the game, GMs voted on how they believed the regular season of this game would shake up. These are the playoffs of PSD's 2013 NBA Mock Offseason.

Please take the time to consider each line up, the match-up itself, and vote on which team you believe would win in a seven game series.

The Pacers have homecourt advantage.

Pacers Depth Chart:

Jose Calderon (28) / Jarrett Jack (20) / Orlando Johnson
Klay Thompson (32) / Manu Ginobili (12) / Jarrett Jack (4)
Paul George (36) / Manu Ginobili (12) / Brandon Rush
David West (34) / Josh McRoberts (14) / Miles Plumlee
Roy Hibbert (34) / Brendan Haywood (14)

76ers Depth Chart:

PG: Mike Conley / Chauncey Billups
SG: Dwyane Wade / Randy Foye
SF: Martell Webster / Tayshaun Prince / Steve Novak
PF: Anthony Davis / Kenneth Faried / Antawn Jamison
C: Omer Asik / Jermaine O'Neal / Gustavo Ayon

Pacers Write-up:


New and Improved Pacers:
This Pacers roster you see before you is a much better team than we saw in the playoffs last year, and for many reasons. Key Additions: Jose Calderon, Jarrett Jack, Klay Thompson, Manu Ginobili Ė Key Losses: George Hill & Lance Stephenson. With the amount of offensive weapons we added, this Pacers team is significantly better than last years squad. Weíve upgraded the Point Guard spot by adding 2 guards who are just as productive and efficient as George Hill on the offensive end, while being MUCH better playmakers. The reason the Pacers struggled at times last year was because of the inefficient and at times horrendous guard play and lack of playmakers, which is why we traded George and Lance. By adding 3 playmaking guards, it helps the at-times turnover prone Paul George and the guard play problem is immediately erased and makes this team much more effective on the offensive end. And not to mention, weíve done all this while maintaining our defensive mentality, by keeping 2 of the elite defenders in the NBA on our team in Paul George and Roy Hibbert. Basically, the players we added are significantly better than the players we lost, and even calling Lance Stephenson a ďKey lossĒ is generous because his production wouldnít back that statement, but he was a starter so weíll give him that respect.

Point Guard: Jose Calderon/Jarrett Jack vs Mike Conley/Chauncey Billups
Jose Calderon is among the most efficient offensive players in the league. Although his volume of shots is low (ala Steve Nash), heís always near the top in TS%, eFG%, and his elite Offensive Rating ranking and Assist% show that heís a great floor general and one of the better facilitators in the NBA. Although Conley ranks an impressive 37th in isolation defense according to Synergy, it renders useless for most of this series because Jose Calderon hardly isolates at all and is primarily a Pick & Roll player, which Conley is much worse at defending (ranked 180 allowing 45% shooting). Therefore we anticipate Calderon having a pretty solid series against the Sixers (nothing spectacular, but nothing horrendous at all either). Coming off the bench we have 6th man of the year candidate Jarrett Jack. Jarrett had an amazing post-season averaging 17 PPG on .588 TS% and .529 eFG%. Even against the vaunted Spurs defense, he averaged 15 PPG on 48% shooting so Jack is capable of exploiting even the best of defenses when heís on his game. Jack will be expected to play against BIllups throughout a couple minutes per game this series and we plan on taking full advantage of the washed-up Chauncey. Jack could be in line for a solid series as well with Chauncey Billups, and the smaller Mike Conley guarding him.

Mike Conley is a solid and steady point guard, and may be the best in the series, however heís no elite and isnít a dangerous threat on either end of the floor. He only averages 14 & 6 on solid efficiency, but when he tried to take on a bigger role in the playoffs, his percentages fell off a lot. FG% fell from 44%-38%, TS% fell from .549-.496, and eFG% fell from .497-.426. Even though Jose Calderon will guard him during this series, and heís known to be a bad defender, Conley isnít good when he takes on a bigger role and takes a higher volume of shots. On this team, looking at the rest of the Sixersí roster, it is evident that Conley is the 2nd option and will have to take on a bigger role, and against a defensive juggernaut team like ours, it is possible that the playoff # decline from Conley may happen again. Conley averaged just 36% FG, and 28% 3ptFG against Thunder backup Reggie Jackson, so he couldnít even take big advantage against OKCís backup Point Guard. Therefore, we imagine Mike Conley scoring throughout this series, but on a much higher volume and much lower efficiency. Billups is clearly declining and was pretty much a scrub last year coming off the Achilles injury. He was ineffective throughout last season, and will likely serve no threat, just like the playoff series against Memphis last season. In short, Mike Conley is a very good point guard, but in no way is he better than BOTH Jarrett Jack and Jose Calderon on the same team throughout this series. Advantage slightly Indiana.

Shooting Guard: Klay Thompson/Manu Ginobili/(Paul George-DEFENSIVE CROSS MATCHUP) vs Dwyane Wade/Randy Foye
Similar to the PG matchup, Dwyane Wade is the most talented player of this group as well, but heís also declining and not close to the player he once was. Wade will be counted on to be the #1 option for the Sixers and his playoff performances the past 2 years indicate that he cannot take on that role anymore at this point in his career. Two years ago Dwyane was very inconsistent during the Heat playoff run, and last post-season Wade only averaged a stat-line of 16 PPG, .498 TS%, .459 eFG%, and an offensive rating of 102. This is all while playing with the best player in the world in Lebron taking most of the pressure off of him and other teammates with the attention he attracts on a nightly basis. Wade only averaged 15 PPG on 43% shooting vs the Pacers in the playoffs last year, and that was with their best defender guarding Lebron throughout that series. In this series, Wade will be primarily guarded by Paul George, who we all know is among the elite defenders in the NBA. Due to Wadeís decline, and the fact that heíll be guarded by Paul George, look for him to have an inconsistent series at best. Heíll get his own and times, and heíll have a couple of good scoring games because heís a talented player, but he cannot score at a high and efficient enough level to carry this 76ers team past Indiana in this series with the age and amount of wear-and-tear on his body at this point in his career. He was just horrible for a player of his caliber in the playoffs last year and thereís no reason for him to somehow average his prime numbers.
Klay Thompson is a deadly sharp-shooter and among the best 3pt snipers in the league. With Wade ranking 180th against spot-up shooters on defense, it shows he is prone to roaming on defense and leaving 3 point shooters open. Take Danny Greenís 3pt barrage vs Miami in the finals last year, Wade was caught roaming several times throughout Danny Greenís 3pt shots and that is why he was able to make so much 3 pointers. We plan to expose this weakness with Wade by running Thompson off of several screens ala JJ Redick and Ray Allen. Klay could be in line for a huge series if being guarded by Wade due to his bad habits of off-ball defense on shooters. Coming off the bench we have Manu as well. Yes, he didnít have the greatest post-season, but we have reason to why he will be effective on this team, more-so than he was on the Spurs. If you watch the finals vs Miami, Manuís main problem was his ridiculous amount of turnovers. On that Spurs team the only true ball-handlers were himself and Tony Parker, and when Park was on the bench he had to take on a role that he isnít ready to handle at this point in his career and thatís be a main ball-handler/facilitator. On this team, we have several ball-handlers to relieve pressure off of him in George, Calderon, Jack, so he wonít have so much pressure on him to create for others. We still feel he can be effective throughout a playoff run, and being guarded by the declining Wade and Randy Foye shouldnít be too tough of a task for him. He wonít be the Manu of old, but he will be a good player, much better than he was in the playoffs last year. Advantage is slightly with Philly, but George slowing down Wade will be a huge factor.

Small Forward: Paul George/(Klay Thompson-CROSS MATCHUP) vs Martell Webster/Tayshaun Prince
There clearly isnít much to discuss here. Martell Webster had his best season last year but it is clearly an outlier. He has never shot the ball that well and hardly has any playoff experience, only playing in one series back in 2009-10. Heís basically a spot-up shooter and shouldnít be hard to contain. Their roster doesnít have drive/kick threats (Wade would be one but isnít as big of a threat at this point, and with George guarding him), and Conley isnít that great of a playmaker. Martell will be guarded by Klay Thompson who ranked 68th guarding spot-up shooters/allowed 32%FG according to Synergy, so Klay should do well guarding Martell. On offense, Paul George is still improving, and yet is a jack-of-all-trades kinda guy. Can shoot, pass, and drive, and with Martell Webster guarding him, a player not known for his defense, should be in line for a big series as well. He averaged 19PPG/7RPG/5APG during last seasonís playoffs so heís a proven playoff threat. Tayshaun Prince is just horrible at this point in his career and isnít a threat to do anything at all. Advantage heavily Indiana

Power Forward: David West vs Anthony Davis/Kenneth Faried
This matchup is a hard one to judge because it is between guys who bring completely different skillsets to the table. David West is gonna be a scorer and rebounder, while Davis and Faried will bring rebounding and shot-blocking. Their young PF duo do not create well for themselves at this point in their careers, and Davis is completely inexperienced. He has no playoff games under his belt and showed to be a little injury prone. Davisí main problem is his lack of strength, so going up against an aggressive beast like David West will be a problem for the youngster. Faried wasnít his usual effective self in the playoffs at all only averaging 10&8 vs Golden State, and with him coming off the bench his energy will be limited throughout this series. There is no denying that these 2 can affect the game in more ways than West can due to their rebounding and defending, but they cannot bring the scoring that David brings, so this matchup seems to be equal.

Center: Roy Hibbert vs Omer Asik
Hibbert was a beast in the post-season last year and erased any thought of him being an offensive liability. He didnít just abuse a smaller Miami Heat lineup, but he dominated Tyson Chandler as well, who is a defensive elite, so why wouldnít he be able to be effective against Asik? Omer only ranked 155th guarding postups according to Synergy so there isnít any reason to think heíd shut Hibbert down. On the defensive end, while Asik is a great anchor, Hibbert is even greater. He averaged over 2 blocks per game last year and was ranked 5th in Defensive Win Shares and 2nd in Defensive Rating, while anchoring the #2 overall defense showing is defensive dominance. If Hibbert can be just as effective as he was on offense last year, and still maintain his defensive presence, then Philadelphia doesnít stand much of a chance in this series. Asik is no threat on offense at all, and is just mainly a defensive and rebounding player. Heís basically Hibbert without the ability to put the ball in the hoop, and not as good defensively. Advantage Indiana.

Bench:
I already touched a bit on this in the matchups. Jack and Manu is a dangerous 1-2 punch off the bench that should have teams in the playoffs worried. They complement each other perfectly since both are great at handling the ball and also playing off of the ball. These 2 are both capable 6th man of the year candidates every year, and have the ability to swing playoff seriesí; just look at Jackís playoff run last year, and Manuís throughout his career. Phillyís bench is filled with veterans who are pretty much washed up (Prince, Chauncey, JO) that wonít do much this series. Faried is a really good player, but he seems to be better as a starter, and Foye is a capable shooter, but there is no way that those 2 can match the impact that Manu and Jack can have throughout a series. Faried hasnít really shown-up and shown-out in the playoffs thus far in his career so we donít think his presence will be that big compared to our bench players. Advantage Indiana

Conclusion:
While Philly built a nice and balanced team, they donít have the scorers to put up points against us. We have the defenders to guard the declining Dwyane Wade, and weíve proven that Conley isnít as good when he takes a higher volume of shots, so he isnít capable or suited for that #2 scoring role. If Lebron James and Dwyane Wade struggled against a weaker Indiana squad last year, why would you believe that Wade himself can lead the 76ers past an even deeper and more balanced/dangerous Indiana squad? Their team lacks the star power, and the explosiveness to get by this Indiana team. We have become deeper, more experienced, more balanced, better offensively, while still being a great defensive squad. We have more advantages than they do and we have the better overall team.

76ers Write-up:


C: Roy Hibbert vs. Omer Asik: We do not doubt that Roy Hibbert is a bit more polished offensively, has more shot blocking ability and has performed extremely well in the 2012-2013 playoffs. However, Omer Asik has impressed just as equally and has proven to all that he is worth the contract he was offered by the Houston Rockets in real life. The 7-foot center out of Turkey is also considered a defensive anchor, and has the edge over Roy Hibbert in the rebounding category. In an intense playoff series among these two teams, it would be tough to imagine Roy Hibbert completely dominating Omer Asik who is still developing and getting better as time goes by. We see this matchup as an equal one.

PF: David West vs. Anthony Davis: While David West has performed really well in the 2012-2013 playoffs, we feel that Anthony Davis gets the edge with his superstar potential and ability to get things done efficiently and at a more consistent level on both ends of the floor. In an intense playoff series, Anthony Davis would make sure to outperform everyone as he did during his Kentucky days. Anthony Davis has young and fresh legs, is very hungry and ambitious towards becoming a super star player in the NBA. He may be less experienced than David West, but Anthony Davis is the guy you would want to have on your team to gain experience and also to have on your team to build around your future.

SF: Paul George vs. Martell Webster: This matchup we'd say is the only matchup where the Pacers get the clear edge. While George is a much better and proven player than Webster, we would just like to say that Webster would not leave without putting up a fight as he has done before many times.

SG: Klay Thompson vs. Dwyane Wade: Dwyane Wade would be a huge problem for Klay Thompson whether it be in a playoff series or even in a regular season game. Klay Thompson's defense is not quite there yet to handle a player like Wade one on one. Paul George would be a better matchup for Wade, but even then, Wade's experience would allow for him to outperform George in a playoff series. Dwyane Wade will be the go to guy for the Sixers as oppose to the Pacers who do not clearly have a go to guy at the moment.

PG: Jose Calderon vs. Mike Conley: Mike Conley would be a huge problem for Calderon. Jose Calderon is not known for his defense, and especially when guarding quicker Point Guards like Mike Conley. Mike Conley would also work the pick and roll plays very well with guys like Anthony Davis, Omer Asik and even with Kenneth Faried coming off the bench.

Bench: While Jarret Jack and Manu Ginobli coming off the bench would be very impressive, having Kenneth Faried coming off the bench is also very impressive. Not to mention the experience and leadership of players like Tayshaun Prince, Jermaine O'neal, Antwan Jamison and Chauncey Billups would also make a huge difference in the series. Players like Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince have already been there before, and have also played together on the same team.

PatsSoxKnicks
08-22-2013, 03:52 AM
Wouldn't let me post the poll (got some Fatal error or something like that). Could a mod add one?

Sadds The Gr8
08-22-2013, 03:58 AM
wow...i tried way too much on that writeup

PatsSoxKnicks
08-22-2013, 04:03 AM
wow...i tried way too much on that writeup

I think your write-up is the reason I couldn't post a poll :laugh2:

PatsSoxKnicks
08-22-2013, 04:45 AM
Will wait to vote until a poll is put up. Yeah thats obvious but I wanted to bump the thread.

Guppyfighter
08-22-2013, 04:51 AM
Wow, these teams are both teams I enjoy and glad people made them. I find that rare in these.

5ass
08-22-2013, 05:04 AM
76ers

Eagles4Lyfe
08-22-2013, 10:13 AM
There not being a poll is probably a good thing for pacers;)

KnicksorBust
08-22-2013, 11:37 AM
I don't know if you guys know this but this is going to be an intense playoff series.

Sports Illustrator
08-22-2013, 12:01 PM
Alright, the poll has been posted.

Good luck Pacers!

I agree that this will be a very good series, for sure.

Eagles4Lyfe
08-22-2013, 12:04 PM
Ay finally nice.
Fightt

Greet
08-22-2013, 12:07 PM
Voted for the Pacers here. Just couldn't pass up that starting 5 + two of the best 6th mans in the league. Paul George would probably be defending Wade, which he can do. Don't think this is the match-up the 76ers wanted. They are a damn good team, but the Pacers out match them here.

KnicksorBust
08-22-2013, 12:09 PM
The fact that Indiana thinks they have that edge at PG and that Philly only has a "slight" advantage at SG is a little ridiculous but then the Sixers countered by saying Asik vs. Hibbert matchup is "an equal one" so ... :laugh:

Overall, I like that the Pacers kept their core together and the addition of Klay Thompson is a much needed upgrade at SG. Good depth in the backcourt helps although their frontcourt depth is pretty shaky. I still love what the Sixers GMs did with that team but I give the slight edge to Indiana.

Killerjug
08-22-2013, 12:17 PM
gunna think about this one for a bit

Ebbs
08-22-2013, 12:18 PM
Best series for sure

Sadds The Gr8
08-22-2013, 12:21 PM
Alright, the poll has been posted.

Good luck Pacers!

I agree that this will be a very good series, for sure.
good luck to you too.

The fact that Indiana thinks they have that edge at PG and that Philly only has a "slight" advantage at SG is a little ridiculous but then the Sixers countered by saying Asik vs. Hibbert matchup is "an equal one" so ... :laugh:

Overall, I like that the Pacers kept their core together and the addition of Klay Thompson is a much needed upgrade at SG. Good depth in the backcourt helps although their frontcourt depth is pretty shaky. I still love what the Sixers GMs did with that team but I give the slight edge to Indiana.

I think the 2 man punch of Jack/Calderon would be more effective throughout this series than just Conley. If Conley had a smaller role and could just come fit in with what he does then I'd give them the advantage. But he'll have too big of a role as option #2 and he struggles with a higher volume of shots. Go look at his playoff numbers last year when he was forced to shoot more.

Sadds The Gr8
08-22-2013, 12:25 PM
If Lebron James and Dwyane Wade struggled against a weaker Indiana squad last year, why would you believe that Wade himself can lead the 76ers past an even deeper and more balanced/dangerous Indiana squad? (from my writeup)

Wade clearly struggled as the #2 option in the playoffs last season so why on earth do people think he could suddenly become a #1 again and lead that limited star powered Sixers team through a deep playoff run? Dude only averaged 16 ppg and wasn't efficient at all...wouldn't you all see a Paul Pierce vs NYK 2013 playoffs type of series for him? Good balance around him but absolutely no threatening scoring presence....

Eagles4Lyfe
08-22-2013, 12:32 PM
If Lebron James and Dwyane Wade struggled against a weaker Indiana squad last year, why would you believe that Wade himself can lead the 76ers past an even deeper and more balanced/dangerous Indiana squad? (from my writeup)

Wade clearly struggled as the #2 option in the playoffs last season so why on earth do people think he could suddenly become a #1 again and lead that limited star powered Sixers team through a deep playoff run? Dude only averaged 16 ppg and wasn't efficient at all...wouldn't you all see a Paul Pierce vs NYK 2013 playoffs type of series for him? Good balance around him but absolutely no threatening scoring presence....

Didn't think of this, really good point. Sealed my vote

Greet
08-22-2013, 12:32 PM
Well it's a strong possibility that Wade struggled as a #2 option because he's so used to being a #1 option, which he is for Philly

Sadds The Gr8
08-22-2013, 12:35 PM
Well it's a strong possibility that Wade struggled as a #2 option because he's so used to being a #1 option, which he is for Philly

he didn't struggle the 2-3 years before...

he's clearly in decline. can't convince me to believe he can suddenly become 2006 Wade and lead a team again.

Mile High Champ
08-22-2013, 01:05 PM
good luck to you too.


I think the 2 man punch of Jack/Calderon would be more effective throughout this series than just Conley. If Conley had a smaller role and could just come fit in with what he does then I'd give them the advantage. But he'll have too big of a role as option #2 and he struggles with a higher volume of shots. Go look at his playoff numbers last year when he was forced to shoot more.

You make it sound like I don't have Billups in my backcourt as well. We clearly have a significant edge at PG in this series and trying to deny that makes little sense. I understand trying to support your team but Calderon and Jack both have their short falls, especially as defensive players and neither player is going to torch Conley.

Who said Conley is our second option. Davis is clearly our second option considing how sexy those offensive numbers were last season that he put up.

Sadds The Gr8
08-22-2013, 01:16 PM
You make it sound like I don't have Billups in my backcourt as well. We clearly have a significant edge at PG in this series and trying to deny that makes little sense. I understand trying to support your team but Calderon and Jack both have their short falls, especially as defensive players and neither player is going to torch Conley.
cmon, everyone and their mothers knows that Billups was hot garbage last season. I never said that they'd torch Conley, I said I think Conley's efficency would go down while Jack and Calderon would be able to keep there's at their average rate giving us the slight advantage.


Who said Conley is our second option. Davis is clearly our second option considing how sexy those offensive numbers were last season that he put up.
Davis still hasn't shown much of a scoring arsenal. I think he'll BECOME a dangerous offensive threat in a few years, but at this point he isn't. He has talent but hasn't put it together and it'd be tough for him to be a #2 option at this point against an elite defensive team.

KnicksorBust
08-22-2013, 01:23 PM
cmon, everyone and their mothers knows that Billups was hot garbage last season.

I think you are drastically overrating how much the general population and specifically female parents followed the 2012-2013 season of Chauncey Billups.

Bruno
08-22-2013, 03:41 PM
Pacers, but wow.

if wade were just a few years younger it might have changed my vote.

my mistake up top- my vote is for the pacers.

Shammyguy3
08-22-2013, 11:26 PM
These were the two teams that I was deciding between as the 4 and 5 seeds when sending in playoff rankings. And the main reason why Indy got the 4th seed nod over Philly is because I don't buy Wade being a #1 option anymore, especially when the second best offensive player (in my mind) is a point guard in Mike Conley.

Pacers win in 7 games. Most tightly contested series though.

mightybosstone
08-23-2013, 12:00 PM
I'm stunned that this matchup hasn't been closer and the 76ers have worked wonders with that roster, but I just think there are far fewer question marks about Indy than Philly. The Pacers have essentially taken the strengths from last season (the PG/West/Hibbert frontcourt) and fixed the weaknesses by giving themselves an exceptional distributing point guard, a great 3-point shooter and two of the best sixth men in the league. They're scary good, and they've fixed pretty much all of their holes on the offensive end.

On the flip side, I love Philly's starting five (minus Webster who's had one good season among a sea of mediocre ones), but I'm not sure how much we can trust Anthony Davis as a No. 2 in this series. And their No. 1 (Wade) has shown a propensity to disappear at times in big games the last couple of years. I do think Davis and Asik would give Hibbert and West fits at times, but Indy can manufacture points in so many ways with their seven best guys, and I'm not sure Philly can keep up with them offensively.

I think Wade has 1-2 really big games to make this a series, but ultimately Indy wins it in 6.

Ebbs
08-23-2013, 12:44 PM
Paul George is 6'10" though

Chronz
08-23-2013, 01:12 PM
Go look at his playoff numbers last year when he was forced to shoot more.
You mean when his Grizzlies just got done enjoying their greatest playoff run in History? Like how his game went to another level once Gay was gone

tredigs
08-23-2013, 01:33 PM
That's a great job on that Pacers team, the concern is obviously depth at big so we'll see if you run into trouble there. But, it's tough to create a better starting lineup without a top 10 player.

TrueFan420
08-23-2013, 04:06 PM
If Lebron James and Dwyane Wade struggled against a weaker Indiana squad last year, why would you believe that Wade himself can lead the 76ers past an even deeper and more balanced/dangerous Indiana squad? (from my writeup)



That's not a good point seeing as its a completely different team. Don't get me wrong i got the pacers but your point is a bad one.

Sportfan
08-23-2013, 04:16 PM
if only philly had SANDERS! and VC

Sadds The Gr8
08-23-2013, 08:00 PM
That's not a good point seeing as its a completely different team. Don't get me wrong i got the pacers but your point is a bad one.

How isn't it a good point? Its basically ppointing out that Wade wouldn't be able to lead a team that's worse than his Miami team past us when he struggled on that Miami team last year

Super.
08-24-2013, 01:32 PM
I honestly Im not sure who would win but I think I lean Pacers

greg_ory_2005
08-24-2013, 04:24 PM
Pacers. I don't think Philly has enough scoring.

Mile High Champ
08-24-2013, 11:06 PM
Pacers. I don't think Philly has enough scoring.

All of our starters score over 10 PPG. Our bench has the likes of Foye, Billups and Faried who are all good scoring options off the bench. This is a solid offensive team.