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-Lavigne43-
08-16-2013, 03:25 PM
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Boston Red Sox -vs- New York Yankees






Game 1

Friday, August 16 - 7:10 ET
TV: NESN/MLBN



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http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/logos/30x34/bos_logo.pngLHP Felix Doubront vs LHP Andy Pettittehttp://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/logos/30x34/nya_logo.png




Name
IP
ERA
K/9
BB/9
BABIP
FIP


Doubront
128
3.66
8.09
3.87
.315
3.44


Pettitte
124.2
4.62
6.28
2.38
.329
3.89










Game 2

Saturday, August 17 - 4:05 ET
FOX



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http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/logos/30x34/bos_logo.pngRHP John Lackey vs RHP Hiroki Kurodahttp://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/logos/30x34/nya_logo.png




Name
IP
ERA
K/9
BB/9
BABIP
FIP


Lackey
133
3.32
8.32
1.96
.303
3.70


Kuroda
154.2
2.33
6.40
1.69
.257
3.25









Game 3

Sunday, August 18 - 8:05 ET
TV: ESPN



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http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/logos/30x34/bos_logo.pngRHP Ryan Dempster vs RHP CC Sabathiahttp://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/images/logos/30x34/nya_logo.png




Name
IP
ERA
K/9
BB/9
BABIP
FIP


Dempster
140
4.50
8.29
4.05
.296
4.68


Sabathia
166
4.66
7.59
2.39
.303
4.26

goshhhjosh
08-16-2013, 04:07 PM
Really can't wait to see A-Rod's first at bat in Boston.

Hopefully the Red Sox can right the ship and actually hit w/RISP. Sox take 2 out of 3 - Kuroda has been amazing for the Yankees this year.

-Lavigne43-
08-16-2013, 04:14 PM
I'm sure he will get booed, but a standing ovation would be hilarious.

goshhhjosh
08-16-2013, 04:20 PM
I'm sure he will get booed, but a standing ovation would be hilarious.

Would be nice if someone stood up with a sign, "Snitches get stitches."

goshhhjosh
08-16-2013, 04:27 PM
Tonight's lineup per Peter Abraham:

RED SOX (72-51)
Ellsbury CF
Victorino RF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Gomes LF
Drew SS
Napoli 1B
Saltalamacchia C
Middlebrooks 3B

YANKEES (62-58)
Gardner CF
Nunez SS
Cano 2B
Soriano LF
Rodriguez 3B
Wells DH
Suzuki RF
Reynolds 1B
Stewart C

Soriano has raked in his last 3 games: 10-14, 4 HR's, 14 RBI's.

Bo Sox Fan
08-16-2013, 04:46 PM
To be honest, Fenway Park should give Arod a standing ovation out of comedy. He has done more harm than good to that organization the past 2 years, going on 3.

They did it to themselves when they extended the male diva.

Station 13
08-16-2013, 05:13 PM
Sweet chin music tomorrow.

Station 13
08-16-2013, 07:33 PM
Could Pedey ****ing break out his 2nd half slump on this short homestand?

Sweet_Caroline
08-16-2013, 07:42 PM
Mark Reynolds against the Red Sox not including that HR .266/.368/.539

Station 13
08-16-2013, 08:00 PM
Good lord Doubront

bagwell368
08-16-2013, 08:08 PM
Well I really wanted to watch the Pats, thanks Felix.... ahh hoe...

Soxfan85
08-16-2013, 08:10 PM
This team no excuse for this BS! We do not have 1 starter that has given us a win a long time

EEasyA
08-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Smh. This is embarrassing.

EEasyA
08-16-2013, 08:23 PM
At least the pats game is on and we just scored a TD.

EEasyA
08-16-2013, 08:24 PM
Well I really wanted to watch the Pats, thanks Felix.... ahh hoe...

Ha ha.

BSF101
08-16-2013, 08:29 PM
If this gets swept by NY I'm I still the bad guy?

AI
08-16-2013, 08:29 PM
Just got home. 7-0? Ouch. We're playing some real bad baseball right now.

AI
08-16-2013, 08:30 PM
If this gets swept by NY I'm I still the bad guy?

First game and you're already talking sweep. To answer your question, yes.

Boston-Born
08-16-2013, 08:36 PM
If this gets swept by NY I'm I still the bad guy?

What about if they win 2/3, then what?

Station 13
08-16-2013, 08:45 PM
Throwing more balls than strikes, a Red Sox bullpen specialty.

grandsalami
08-16-2013, 09:47 PM
I WANT TO punch these umps in the face..

Station 13
08-16-2013, 09:53 PM
Unleash Xander please.

BSF101
08-16-2013, 10:13 PM
First game and you're already talking sweep. To answer your question, yes.
Did I ever say we would get swept? No what I said was IF we get swept big difference. Stop putting words in my mouth.



What about if they win 2/3, then what?

Good question? I Probably will? I can call this the greatest MLB team ever and still get treated like crap.

-Lavigne43-
08-16-2013, 10:59 PM
Hope they're just getting their last crappy stretch out of the way

bagwell368
08-16-2013, 11:05 PM
This team no excuse for this BS! We do not have 1 starter that has given us a win a long time

Could have easily had one last night if the hitting produced the normal amount of runs.

Petertherock
08-16-2013, 11:48 PM
This team no excuse for this BS! We do not have 1 starter that has given us a win a long time

The sad thing is except for tonight, our starting pitching in the last few games should have gotten wins. Tonight we still play like crap offensively and the pitching decided to suck too. We lose 2/3 to a last place team and now we are heading for a sweep by the Yankees.

tc2deuce
08-17-2013, 12:05 AM
The Iggy trade has killed the morale of this team

Station 13
08-17-2013, 12:25 AM
**** the last few games. Just nothing consistent. Starters exiting early, forcing the weaker relievers in first. Pedroia since the break as done very little. Same with Napoli.

We might be looking to getting Bogaerts here soon, perhaps this road trip out west. Ortiz will probably have to **** out some games, and we need as many hitters in there as we can. After they return home, they have 1 week to put Xander on the roster to have him as qualified to play in the playoff. If they stinks they might stoop down to one of the WC and play the sudden death game.

BSF101
08-17-2013, 01:02 AM
The sad thing is except for tonight, our starting pitching in the last few games should have gotten wins. Tonight we still play like crap offensively and the pitching decided to suck too. We lose 2/3 to a last place team and now we are heading for a sweep by the Yankees.

I don't see or think Boston gets swept by the Yankees, shocker to those who keep saying, I'm so negative lol.

Nomar
08-17-2013, 12:57 PM
The Iggy trade has killed the morale of this team

Hahah no.

But this team needs someone like Bogaerts or Bradley to come up and give us some life. Stagnant offense is becoming a drag to watch night in and night out for the last three weeks.

AI
08-17-2013, 04:15 PM
Let's get this W.

MiamiBoy77
08-17-2013, 04:18 PM
Shane batting righty? Don't get to watch live often but has he done this a lot?

Station 13
08-17-2013, 04:25 PM
What an inning.

AI
08-17-2013, 04:31 PM
Farrell really needs to switch the lineup. You look at the Yankees lineup and the spark Soriano is giving them, I think Xander is the guy to have that effect on our team.

-Lavigne43-
08-17-2013, 05:36 PM
It's not a spark. Soriano just had an insane bunch of games in a row. He will probably revert be terrible the rest of the month. WMB is doing his best Iggy impression right now, it's not like he came up and went 0-20

Nomar
08-17-2013, 07:21 PM
WMB is hitting but isn't impressing me really. Mostly just BABIP luck with grounders.

Also how long are we going to hit Pedroia 3rd? Put him second and movie Victorino down... It's the worst 2/3 punch out of every team in baseball with a winning record.

-Lavigne43-
08-17-2013, 07:31 PM
And who hits 3rd and 4th? Ortiz is our only hitter that has been great. Everyone else is ~average, above average or a small sample size.

Like I said WMB is doing his best Iggy impression. Xander is not going to be more productive than that. You keep WMB going until he fails, at the very least we might get his trade value up with a fluke hot streak.

-Lavigne43-
08-17-2013, 07:32 PM
‏@TimBritton 5m
Holt in for Pedroia, who fouled that ball off his foot last inning.

Pray that it's just precautionary with the big lead, and not 2010 redux.

AI
08-17-2013, 08:13 PM
If it is 2010 redux, does Xander get the call?

-Lavigne43-
08-17-2013, 08:22 PM
It's nothing. And if he did break it we'd just be ****ed at 2b since Holt is the only one who has ever played there.

Petertherock
08-17-2013, 09:32 PM
Thank God we didn't get swept...with a good game tomorrow we can actually win the series!

AI
08-17-2013, 10:59 PM
Rays lost to the Jays, we're up 2 games again.

Lackeyfan41
08-18-2013, 12:56 AM
Hopefully Dempster can repeat his last start and we can kill CC like we did when we last played him

Nomar
08-18-2013, 01:29 AM
And who hits 3rd and 4th? Ortiz is our only hitter that has been great. Everyone else is ~average, above average or a small sample size.

Like I said WMB is doing his best Iggy impression. Xander is not going to be more productive than that. You keep WMB going until he fails, at the very least we might get his trade value up with a fluke hot streak.

Obviously you ride WMB out but Ortiz should be hitting 3rd, it's that simple. It doesn't matter if everyone else in the lineup is in a similar range production wise, your best hitter should be hitting third. Especially iven how in this scenario Ortiz is far better than everyone. Pedroia, especially this year, isn't a 3 hitter. Why pretend he is? I'd bat Napoli 4th if I had to. It'd still make a better 1-4 than the kne we throw out there every night.

-Lavigne43-
08-18-2013, 02:20 AM
Studies show that the 3rd spot in the lineup is less important than the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and about the same as the 5th spot. That's why you're seeing some teams starting to put their best hitters #2. Ortiz should stay where he is in the cleanup spot, where he gets more opportunities with men on base than anyone else.

We are virtually tied with Detroit in the most productive offense this season because every regular in the lineup (when including Iggy) has produce at least league average offense. You can go with pretty much any lineup with Ortiz in the middle and it wouldn't change much. You can suggest switching it up with whoever is hot, but that has changed all the time this year.

bagwell368
08-18-2013, 06:14 AM
Studies show that the 3rd spot in the lineup is less important than the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and about the same as the 5th spot. That's why you're seeing some teams starting to put their best hitters #2. Ortiz should stay where he is in the cleanup spot, where he gets more opportunities with men on base than anyone else.

When the top 3 are clicking, Ortiz sees a lot of base runners. OTOH, the 4th hitter leads innings off more than any other hitter after #1, and there are no RBI's then (outside of a HR of course).

In the situation we are in, I want Ortiz 3rd because he'll always get up in the 1st, probably get another 4 more PA's than if he was at #4 the rest of the way, and Ells, Pedroia, Ortiz is a very nice top 3.

So:

Ellsbury
Pedroia
Ortiz
Napoli/Carp *
Gomes/Nava *
Drew/XB
WMB
Catcher
Victorino

* these hitters in the #4/5 holes can be switched around depending on pitchers/who is hot. we have to face facts that the hitters in the two slots following Ortiz are not ideal for the role.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 12:28 PM
When we have someone OPSing over 800 in front of him sure bat him 4th, but he is getting a lot less opportunities than Pedroia is and Pedey is wasting a good deal of those.

-Lavigne43-
08-18-2013, 12:58 PM
You're wrong. This season Pedroia comes up to the plate with a runner on any base 2.46 times per game. Ortiz comes up to the plate with a runner on 2.47 times a game. Pedroia comes up to the plate with runners in scoring position 1.79 times a game. Ortiz comes up to the plate with runners in scoring position 1.83 times per game. Virtually the same.

Moving Ortiz up just gives Napoli/Carp more opportunities with runners on, you don't want that. When the season is over Pedroia will likely be our 2nd or 3rd most productive hitter.

Crucis
08-18-2013, 02:33 PM
I'd say what this question of who bats 3rd and 4th, etc. really highlights the fact that this team is lacking a second big bopper of Ortiz' caliber.

AI
08-18-2013, 05:56 PM
Ortiz will play 1B in 2/3 games vs SF. Also, WMB is currently working out at 1B.

Crucis
08-18-2013, 06:06 PM
Ortiz will play 1B in 2/3 games vs SF. Also, WMB is currently working out at 1B.

That's nice. I wish (or hope) that he'd done some of that while he was down at AAA. (Or at double A or single A.)


On Ortiz, it's interesting (ironic?) to see that we're back to having a 1B-man who simply isn't good enough to keep Ortiz out of the lineup in NL parks during interleague games, like was the case when Agon or Youk patrolled 1B. (Well, to be accurate, Youk didn't really completely keep Papi out of the lineup then, but at least Youk was good enough that it wasn't a totally automatic move.)

AI
08-18-2013, 06:11 PM
Well, Napoli is currently battling plantar fasciitis (left foot) so I understand why Ortiz is in the lineup for 2/3 games. I'd expect him to get starts at 1B in the Dodgers series as well.

Crucis
08-18-2013, 06:34 PM
Well, Napoli is currently battling plantar fasciitis (left foot) so I understand why Ortiz is in the lineup for 2/3 games. I'd expect him to get starts at 1B in the Dodgers series as well.


Even if Napoli was feeling fine, Ortiz is outperforming him by so much offensively that I'd have still expected Papi to play 2/3 games in each series.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 07:35 PM
You're wrong. This season Pedroia comes up to the plate with a runner on any base 2.46 times per game. Ortiz comes up to the plate with a runner on 2.47 times a game. Pedroia comes up to the plate with runners in scoring position 1.79 times a game. Ortiz comes up to the plate with runners in scoring position 1.83 times per game. Virtually the same.

Moving Ortiz up just gives Napoli/Carp more opportunities with runners on, you don't want that. When the season is over Pedroia will likely be our 2nd or 3rd most productive hitter.

Carp this year is a bigger bat than Pedroia, likely because of Pedroia's injury but still.

Station 13
08-18-2013, 08:33 PM
Nice start off fat ***.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 08:40 PM
This is great

AI
08-18-2013, 08:40 PM
Hahaha that was awesome. :laugh2:

win red sox
08-18-2013, 08:42 PM
not smart

win red sox
08-18-2013, 08:44 PM
dempster is an idiot.

Maine Big Dawg
08-18-2013, 08:45 PM
Geez the ESPN broadcasters are such Yankee homers

j-bay
08-18-2013, 08:45 PM
dempster is an idiot.

dude that was awesome.

bagwell368
08-18-2013, 08:46 PM
Look, you want to fool around w/ AROD? Make sure there are two outs and you're coming out shortly and your team is ahead.

If we lose this game it's either on Dempster or whichever coach told him to do it.

BTW, the warnings should have been after the 1st pitch.

AI
08-18-2013, 08:46 PM
And just like that it's a tie ballgame. Let's stop the circus and focus on winning this game now.

Maine Big Dawg
08-18-2013, 08:46 PM
dude that was awesome.

Damn right it was....about time someone drilled Aroid

Station 13
08-18-2013, 08:48 PM
**** off Dempster. You're just as ******.

Maine Big Dawg
08-18-2013, 08:48 PM
Look, you want to fool around w/ AROD? Make sure there are two outs and you're coming out shortly and your team is ahead.

If we lose this game it's either on Dempster or whichever coach told him to do it.

BTW, Dempster should have been warned after the 1st pitch.

Good points Bags - but regardless it was still awesome.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 08:49 PM
Dempster is so hard to watch. Took him 4 pitches against ARod then blows a 2 run lead promptly. I hope there's a fight.

BSF101
08-18-2013, 08:51 PM
As much as I dislike the yankees Dempster was looking for trouble, and if the Red Sox lose tonight its because Karma bite them on the ***.

Maine Big Dawg
08-18-2013, 08:52 PM
Reply at the end of the inning with Aroid walking to first with that shocked look like did he really just hit me.....priceless

j-bay
08-18-2013, 08:52 PM
This rivalry needed a little spark.

Azzacadabra
08-18-2013, 08:53 PM
Only thing I loved was and I'm paraphrasing the "You're no Jeter" (I think) chant towards A-rod by the fans.

AI
08-18-2013, 08:54 PM
See what Overbay did just there, that's the same play Nava couldn't make the previous inning, I don't think he has the glove for 1B.

Maine Big Dawg
08-18-2013, 08:55 PM
This rivalry needed a little spark.

Yep where is Zimmer and Pedro?

Nomar
08-18-2013, 09:01 PM
Nava doesn't have the glove for any position. Show me carp

AI
08-18-2013, 09:05 PM
That plunking of A-Rod has completely changed this game.

BSF101
08-18-2013, 09:08 PM
Only thing I loved was and I'm paraphrasing the "You're no Jeter" (I think) chant towards A-rod by the fans.

Sounded like You're a cheater?

Green_Monster
08-18-2013, 09:13 PM
Yankees fans, still claiming that Ortiz is a steroid user. :laugh2:

I guess that's all you have too talk about when your team is barely above .500 and currently out of the playoffs.


On the same day, the Major League Baseball Players Association issued a statement pointing out that because of several factors, any player appearing on the list compiled by the federal government in 2003 did not necessarily test positive for performance enhancing drugs. Among those factors were that the total number of players said to be on the list far exceeded the number of collected specimens that tested positive. In addition, there were questions raised regarding the lab that performed the testing and their interpretation of the positive tests. Also, the statement pointed out that certain legal supplements that were available over the counter at the time could possibly cause a positive test result.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 09:43 PM
Small ball. Good work Drew falling behind then going oppo.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 09:44 PM
Middlebrooks get it

Green_Monster
08-18-2013, 09:44 PM
Middlebrooks!

AI
08-18-2013, 09:46 PM
That was a nice swing by Will. Now hopefully Dempster can keep this lead.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 09:47 PM
the Yanks looks like they are mentally slipping.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 09:49 PM
If our lead gets to four next inning there will be a fight

Azzacadabra
08-18-2013, 09:49 PM
Sounded like You're a cheater?

You're right now that I think about it, but I would love that other chant to be as well.

Maine Big Dawg
08-18-2013, 09:50 PM
If our lead gets to four next inning there will be a fight

Hope so the rivalry needs a spark

j-bay
08-18-2013, 09:51 PM
Love Farrell's interview.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 09:52 PM
Nice inning by Dempster.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 09:53 PM
Agreed MBD but gotta make sure nobody we need like Ortiz gets suspended. Dempster OTOH is easily replaceable for a start.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 09:55 PM
Interesting

Wayne Scanlan ‏@HockeyScanner 49m
Met Ryan Dempster in Detroit. Said he had an issue with A-Rod and would drill him first chance he got. Man of his word. #soxyanks

Wayne Scanlan ‏@HockeyScanner 46m
A-Rod snubbed Dempster at a public event. Dempster was not impressed.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:10 PM
Damn drew, if he got on base that would've almost guaranteed a fight.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 10:12 PM
****!

AI
08-18-2013, 10:13 PM
That's why everybody hates you A-Rod, you are a massive douche.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:15 PM
Give him the hook. And I can't be mad at ARod you have to be going for a bomb if you're him. But if you're giving up 2 wall balls to Nunez you're doing something wrong.

AI
08-18-2013, 10:18 PM
Take Dempster out, now please, before he gives up the lead.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:21 PM
Jesus now Britton comes into a high pressure situation with men on after crumbling in a similar scenario recently against KC. Thanks Dempster.

AI
08-18-2013, 10:23 PM
Jesus now Britton comes into a high pressure situation with men on after crumbling in a similar scenario recently against KC. Thanks Dempster.

No, thanks Farrell. He should of been out of the game after Nuņez got that wall-ball hit.

AI
08-18-2013, 10:27 PM
Once again Farrell manages to completely give the game away. Seriously, **** him.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:28 PM
Doesn't change the fact that Dempster is a nightmare either though. Good duo they made though hahaha

j-bay
08-18-2013, 10:29 PM
good job drew

Station 13
08-18-2013, 10:30 PM
I thought we fired Grady?

BSF101
08-18-2013, 10:31 PM
Classic Red Sox take the lead than give it away.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:33 PM
Britton is a nibbler and hangs too many. I don't like him pitching in key situations he doesn't have it in him. Not at this point...

AI
08-18-2013, 10:34 PM
Doesn't change the fact that Dempster is a nightmare either though. Good duo they made though hahaha

I mean, after A-Rod hit the homerun, it's obvious that if another man reaches base he should be taken out, but no, he waits until Overbay and Stewart both reach to load the bases to take him out. Then he brings in Britton, who aside from his great start has been complete crap lately, in a bases loaded jam. We all knew he'd find some way to **** it up. This is all on Farrell, not on Dempster, stupid managing once again is costing us a game that we should be winning and should of won.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:38 PM
I mean, after A-Rod hit the homerun, it's obvious that if another man reaches base he should be taken out, but no, he waits until Overbay and Stewart both reach to load the bases to take him out. Then he brings in Britton, who aside from his great start has been complete crap lately, in a bases loaded jam. We all knew he'd find some way to **** it up. This is all on Farrell, not on Dempster, stupid managing once again is costing us a game that we should be winning and should of won.

Agreed man.

I miss Andrew miller. :(

SirHizz
08-18-2013, 10:38 PM
I just don't get Farrell at times...especially recently. He pulled Dempster when he was having one of his best outings in a Red Sox uniform and was way under 100 pitches in Toronto. This time he refused to take him out with around 100 pitches when he was pitching a brutal game.

Britton is another headscratcher. Can't go to him in such a high pressure situation.

I guess we could have seen it coming, BJays fans warned us. I do think Farrell is a great clubhouse manager, but his managing skills ain't exactly top notch.

Station 13
08-18-2013, 10:40 PM
Farrell used both Tazawa and Uehara yesterday to finish off a 5 run lead. Turd!

AI
08-18-2013, 10:42 PM
It's always the same situation though. Trying to squeeze another inning out of a clearly gassed starter and it's always the same outcome, we end up losing. How many times can he make the same mistake? He's done it like 3-4x lately, seriously, wtf?

And what's with the Britton love, stop using him in those situations, he's not going to come through.

Station 13
08-18-2013, 10:44 PM
It's always the same situation though. Trying to squeeze another inning out of a clearly gassed starter and it's always the same outcome, we end up losing. How many times can he make the same mistake? He's done it like 3-4x lately, seriously, wtf?

And what's with the Britton love, stop using him in those situations, he's not going to come through.

it was Dempster night following the hr. Why does Farrell stick with Dempster? he blows.

AI
08-18-2013, 10:46 PM
This is going to be an unacceptable loss.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 10:54 PM
Yup the Jays fans did warn us about it, though last year it was a lot of baserunning stuff.

I'm ready for Bogaerts.... Pedroia .581 OPS since the break but yeah let's keep him batting 3rd because he's Dustin Pedroia. When will we move him how bad does he have to hit? It's been two months of struggle and there's no signs of life from his offense.

Station 13
08-18-2013, 10:57 PM
I'm ****ing piss at Farrell.

grandsalami
08-18-2013, 10:59 PM
It's always the same situation though. Trying to squeeze another inning out of a clearly gassed starter and it's always the same outcome, we end up losing. How many times can he make the same mistake? He's done it like 3-4x lately, seriously, wtf?

And what's with the Britton love, stop using him in those situations, he's not going to come through.


It's the L L L matchup that britton is usually good at

Station 13
08-18-2013, 11:00 PM
Yup the Jays fans did warn us about it, though last year it was a lot of baserunning stuff.

I'm ready for Bogaerts.... Pedroia .581 OPS since the break but yeah let's keep him batting 3rd because he's Dustin Pedroia. When will we move him how bad does he have to hit? It's been two months of struggle and there's no signs of life from his offense.

As a former pitching coach he has to manage his starters like Dempster better. Oh he has done a bunch of questionable **** lately. Giving Wright a start because it was the Stros? GTFO

But back to Dempster. What a ****** pitcher. $13M for a 90ERA+ starter. Still got 1 year on that deal.

Station 13
08-18-2013, 11:00 PM
It's the L L L matchup that britton is usually good at

No he isn't. He blew in KC as well. He isn't ready for this. What a turd manager Farrell have been lately.

tc2deuce
08-18-2013, 11:03 PM
Reynolds goes yard right here

Nomar
08-18-2013, 11:04 PM
Easy to find things to complain about tonight, but Farrell really does make some bad calls.

Also I really don't agree with Pedroia batting 3rd I hope he figures it out soon but regardless he has no place hittin there right now. Good chance it's the thumb slowing him but bottom line is that him hitting third is hurting the lineup. If Drew could play 2B I would give Pedroia a good number of games off when Bogaerts gets called up.

tc2deuce
08-18-2013, 11:05 PM
thank you Farrell

AI
08-18-2013, 11:06 PM
8-6 now. :sigh:

tc2deuce
08-18-2013, 11:07 PM
watch this Yankee team go to the postseason and we stay home another year

Station 13
08-18-2013, 11:07 PM
Farrell using Morales........white flag waved. **** off Farrell.

tc2deuce
08-18-2013, 11:09 PM
sometimes i hate this team

grandsalami
08-18-2013, 11:11 PM
watch this Yankee team go to the postseason and we stay home another year

That's a bit overdramatic. We won't miss the postseason

Nomar
08-18-2013, 11:23 PM
Well we sacrificed this game to hit a guy who has little respect from his own organization let alone other teams, while we're in the middle of a pennant race. And if the benches don't clear what purpose does this do to the rivalry? Nothing. New York misses the playoffs, ARod gets suspended, and we lose a game on the rays. That's it.

tc2deuce
08-18-2013, 11:26 PM
That's a bit overdramatic. We won't miss the postseason
in all due respect, have you seen how this team has played lately?

grandsalami
08-18-2013, 11:34 PM
That's a bit overdramatic. We won't miss the postseason
in all due respect, have you seen how this team has played lately?

Yes and your insane if you think the Yankees will make the playoffs and we won't. There is no chance we miss the playoffs. None. Even going .500 the rest of the season gets us 90+ wins

Station 13
08-18-2013, 11:35 PM
Yes and your insane if you think the Yankees will make the playoffs and we won't. There is no chance we miss the playoffs. None. Even going .500 the rest of the season gets us 90+ wins

Play for the division title. Farrell is trying to blow it.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 11:36 PM
Yes and your insane if you think the Yankees will make the playoffs and we won't. There is no chance we miss the playoffs. None. Even going .500 the rest of the season gets us 90+ wins

Well obviously it isn't none but the chances of us missing and the Yankees jumping 2 of us, TB, and BAL is next to none.

Station 13
08-18-2013, 11:42 PM
Farrell just wasted Tazawa for the second day in a roll. **** off.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 11:48 PM
WMB is doing very good. Start moving him up in the line-up

Nomar
08-18-2013, 11:50 PM
Ellsbury is the king of chasing breaking balls lately. Low and away and he swings at every single one.

Nomar
08-18-2013, 11:53 PM
WMB is doing very good. Start moving him up in the line-up

Too soon. Keep him comfortable. It's his first game where he's actually driving the ball in multiple ABs. He's walking more for now, but I'd let him establish his power and let his BABIP fall back to a semi-normal level as to temper peoples' expectations on him before i move him up in the order really. He's fragile still.

j-bay
08-18-2013, 11:56 PM
Send him down!

SirHizz
08-18-2013, 11:58 PM
There is no chance we miss the playoffs. None. Even going .500 the rest of the season gets us 90+ wins

What? I mean, what? You were probably thinking the exact same thing 2 years ago. Because in mid August of 2011, the Sox were like 98% of making the playoffs.
How do you know we'll be even playing .500 ball from now on? It could be worse as we've seen over the past series/weeks.
And quite frankly, it's still a question whether to view the 1 wildcard-game as "being in the playoffs". Don't like our chances in such a game to be brutally honest. Only if Buchholz gets back in time, but I wouldn't bet money on his 2013 return.

Station 13
08-19-2013, 12:01 AM
Can anybody in this bullpen consistently throw strikes beside Taz and Koji?

Nomar
08-19-2013, 12:09 AM
Good chances that once Buchholz or Bogaerts comes, we get on a roll. And at this point if we have one more hot streak we'll cement ourselves into the playoffs. Tonight has been brutal though on all accounts.

SirHizz
08-19-2013, 12:13 AM
Good chances that once Buchholz or Bogaerts comes, we get on a roll. And at this point if we have one more hot streak we'll cement ourselves into the playoffs. Tonight has been brutal though on all accounts.

Xander can't be much better than the hot-streak Will and Drew are currently on, can he? They might catch fire in a few weeks, but I am more worried about the upcoming west coast trip. They traditionally suck on those trips and we are playing the red hot Dodgers. We need to win at least 3 games. We better take 2 in SF.

tc2deuce
08-19-2013, 12:14 AM
will pedroia ever hit one to the outfield !?!?!

Station 13
08-19-2013, 12:14 AM
Heard WMB is taking grounder at 1B, maybe prepare for Bogaerts call up tomorrow.

Station 13
08-19-2013, 12:15 AM
will pedroia ever hit one to the outfield !?!?!

He is a 2 month slump. Need to break out soon.

Nomar
08-19-2013, 12:18 AM
Wouldn't be shocked to see Rowland-Smith and Bogaerts get called up together. Britton getting optioned for RS.

Station 13
08-19-2013, 12:22 AM
Big FU to Farrell and Dempster.

BSF101
08-19-2013, 12:26 AM
I knew Karma was gonna get them after Dempster's stupidity in the second inning.

BSF101
08-19-2013, 12:28 AM
watch this Yankee team go to the postseason and we stay home another year

LOL I doubt the Yankees even make the PO's.

grandsalami
08-19-2013, 12:32 AM
JF blew todays game, but he is not a terrible in game manager, And NONE of you can say with a straight face that tito (non playoff tito) was any better. I remember countless times where he pulled starters late also. He is also pulling starters late this year with the tribe... Hell other then Joe Maddon (credit where it is due) I cant name 3 good in game managers....

AI
08-19-2013, 12:44 AM
Drew is in another one of his "not so-hot streaks" and I don't know WTF is up with Pedroia.

Farrell needs to shake things up and he needs to stop making the same mistake of trying to squeeze another inning out of his pitchers over and over again. It always ends up costing us and recently he's done it on numerous occasions.

What do I propose? Call the kid up, Bogaerts and JBJ. Put Victorino on the DL along with Dempster, insert Workman back into the rotation. DFA Snyder, option Britton and Lavarnway to AAA and re-instate both Ross and Thornton.

Nomar
08-19-2013, 12:56 AM
What's the status on Thornton. I wasn't thinking he was an option yet which is why i suggested Rowland-Smith.

Redsox07Champs
08-19-2013, 01:08 AM
I'm very disappointed in Dempster, the umps and Farrell tonight. Dempster was just flat out wrong for trying to hit him. No way around it. That HBP led to 2 runs and it was a momentum shifter. Just a stupid thing to do. The ump should have tossed Dempster after the HBP. Very disappointing he didn't toss him. JF, didn't punch the right buttons and he stupidly defended Dempster after the game. I can't believe I'm saying this, but even as a huge Sox fan and a hater of Arod, I'm sort of glad he hit a bomb off Demp. Demp deserved it.

grandsalami
08-19-2013, 01:21 AM
I'm very disappointed in Dempster, the umps and Farrell tonight. Dempster was just flat out wrong for trying to hit him. No way around it. That HBP led to 2 runs and it was a momentum shifter. Just a stupid thing to do. The ump should have tossed Dempster after the HBP. Very disappointing he didn't toss him. JF, didn't punch the right buttons and he stupidly defended Dempster after the game. I can't believe I'm saying this, but even as a huge Sox fan and a hater of Arod, I'm sort of glad he hit a bomb off Demp. Demp deserved it.

Farrell HAS TO, HAS TO defend his player, no matter what they do. You saw what happened when BV threw his players under the bus???

Station 13
08-19-2013, 01:25 AM
Dempster cannot get off this team fast enough. What he got left? $13.5M to pitch around a 5ERA next season?

Station 13
08-19-2013, 01:26 AM
Farrell HAS TO, HAS TO defend his player, no matter what they do. You saw what happened when BV threw his players under the bus???

Dempster is a moron tonight and the team paid the price. So Dempster can go scew himself.

Nomar
08-19-2013, 01:29 AM
Dempster is a moron tonight and the team paid the price. So Dempster can go scew himself.

No matter how mad you are, if Farrell threw Dempster under the bus he might as well buy a ticket out of Boston because it would end ugly for him. You don't do that ever. He would lose the respect of every player in that clubhouse and probably other coaches as well. We can complain about Farrell all night but he's a great personality manager and thankfully he'd never do something of that mainstream stupidity.

Redsox07Champs
08-19-2013, 01:46 AM
Farrell HAS TO, HAS TO defend his player, no matter what they do. You saw what happened when BV threw his players under the bus???

you're right. i just hope there was a discussion behind closed doors. i really would like to DL Demps and get Workman some starts. Workman seems to work better when he starts instead of out of the pen.

Nomar
08-19-2013, 01:47 AM
Workman just needs to adjust to relieving he's been fine there so far. He'll likely only get better as a RP.

SirHizz
08-19-2013, 02:01 AM
Dempster cannot get off this team fast enough. What he got left? $13.5M to pitch around a 5ERA next season?

Well, I guess we are about to have a logjam in the rotation next year. Buchholz, Lackey and Peavy are locks. Lester is very likely to be there due to the option. Douby should be there if he's not traded...add in some "unknowns" like Workman or some other prospects.
It might make sense to send Dempster to the bullpen. He's used to that role and could be very valuable there.

AI
08-19-2013, 02:57 AM
What's our record so far in the second half? We've been playing meh baseball for over a month now.

Redsox07Champs
08-19-2013, 10:13 AM
Dempster has to be the most likely guy heading to the bullpen. Buchholz is 2-3 weeks away. If we can get Buch, Lack, Lester and Peavy heading into the playoffs, we could have a shot. Just have to get hot at the right time.

MG956
08-19-2013, 08:13 PM
What's our record so far in the second half? We've been playing meh baseball for over a month now.

Ya, we are in our second slump. We'll come out of it but we are just an average team playing our hearts out. This is the first team in a couple years I evan wanted to make the playoffs, but we will not win the last game of the season.

If it makes you happy the RS do well at the end of the year coming from behind, which we will most likely be - behind entering September.

I only posted to point out one thing. We should throw at Arod in every game, and I am ok if we throw right at his face.

Dempster earned his bones with me yesterday. I have had zero use of him thus far and I don't expect his performance to impress me going forward. But someone needed to toss "inside" to that piece of walking garbage.

sawxfan
08-20-2013, 12:17 AM
Ya, we are in our second slump. We'll come out of it but we are just an average team playing our hearts out. This is the first team in a couple years I evan wanted to make the playoffs, but we will not win the last game of the season.

If it makes you happy the RS do well at the end of the year coming from behind, which we will most likely be - behind entering September.

I only posted to point out one thing. We should throw at Arod in every game, and I am ok if we throw right at his face.

Dempster earned his bones with me yesterday. I have had zero use of him thus far and I don't expect his performance to impress me going forward. But someone needed to toss "inside" to that piece of walking garbage.

Exactly the wrong reaction. What you should do is dominate him by shutting him down. Don't give him anything to deflect from who is wrong. Then after the game that you just shut him down, you can voice your opinions of him. Win the game.

Petertherock
08-20-2013, 11:15 PM
You people have to remember that pitchers hate A-roid more than anything. All this time he has been playing juiced up and all the hits, runs, and HR's the pitchers gave up that they shouldn't of just because he was juicing pisses the pitchers off. I think it was Lackey who said he wanted those at bats back when A-roid was juicing. Of course he will never get those AB's back...so hitting that unorganized, grabasstic pile of amphibian **** is a good thing to do. Yes, we probably lost the game because of it...but the next time they should take him out...put him on the concussion list for the rest of the season so he can't beat you like he did the other night.