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JasonJohnHorn
08-02-2013, 12:13 PM
I was always a big Ben Wallace fan, but I never realized he had accomplished this, and I saw this posted on Reddit the other day.

Wallace retired with more blocks than personal fouls AND more steals than turnovers!

The fact that, as shot blocker, he didn't rack up a lot of fouls is incredible. A lot of shot blockers get 2 fouls for ever block (or more) and as for turnovers, big men are not known for taking care of the ball (I guess it helps that they never really gave Ben the ball on offense lol).


Thoughts?

Hellcrooner
08-02-2013, 12:28 PM
I was always a big Ben Wallace fan, but I never realized he had accomplished this, and I saw this posted on Reddit the other day.

Wallace retired with more blocks than personal fouls AND more steals than turnovers!

The fact that, as shot blocker, he didn't rack up a lot of fouls is incredible. A lot of shot blockers get 2 fouls for ever block (or more) and as for turnovers, big men are not known for taking care of the ball (I guess it helps that they never really gave Ben the ball on offense lol).


Thoughts?

mmm you sure?

hasnt manute bol or Mark Eaton done so?

kdspurman
08-02-2013, 12:41 PM
mmm you sure?

hasnt manute bol or Mark Eaton done so?

Manute Bol had more blocks than fouls (2086-1457), but not more steals than turnovers (126-451)

Mark Eaton had more blocks than fouls (3061-2955), but not more steals than turnovers (368-1293)

The steals to turnover part is the difference.

ILLUSIONIST^248
08-02-2013, 12:58 PM
I was always a big Ben Wallace fan, but I never realized he had accomplished this, and I saw this posted on Reddit the other day.

Wallace retired with more blocks than personal fouls AND more steals than turnovers!

The fact that, as shot blocker, he didn't rack up a lot of fouls is incredible. A lot of shot blockers get 2 fouls for ever block (or more) and as for turnovers, big men are not known for taking care of the ball (I guess it helps that they never really gave Ben the ball on offense lol).


Thoughts?

Amazing. If only he had an offensive game to go with his killer defense. 6ppg career average is god awful.

UPRock
08-02-2013, 01:07 PM
Big Ben, he was such a joy to watch, blocks flying everywhere with that man around.

ManningToTyree
08-02-2013, 01:10 PM
He was so fun to watch on that end of the floor. Absolutely dominant and at only 6'9

bootypants
08-02-2013, 01:13 PM
one of my fav players. undrafted aswell....

Chronz
08-02-2013, 01:38 PM
I miss the characters we had in the early 2k era. Fear the fro and all. I miss Starbury too

Hellcrooner
08-02-2013, 01:39 PM
Manute Bol had more blocks than fouls (2086-1457), but not more steals than turnovers (126-451)

Mark Eaton had more blocks than fouls (3061-2955), but not more steals than turnovers (368-1293)

The steals to turnover part is the difference.

Now i remember the thing with Bol is he had more blocks than points. :D

Hawkeye15
08-02-2013, 01:53 PM
I miss the characters we had in the early 2k era. Fear the fro and all. I miss Starbury too

you know I don't

LeperMessiah
08-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Ahh the old 2K era

Bostonjorge
08-02-2013, 02:01 PM
He was a force in Detroit.

ThuglifeJ
08-02-2013, 02:32 PM
Underrated. Hed be the best center today if he played. I always thought he was the most intimidating interior defender in his prime.

Really miss early 2k players. Its not nostalgia or generation bias to say the players that came in then were A LOT more talented then the young gunz today. Its because the expectations were to replace the 90s and MJ void. The fact you still see half the early 2k players still playing and starting today just proves how good they were..you won't see guys like griffin having a16 year career while still playing a good role

kdspurman
08-02-2013, 02:34 PM
Now i remember the thing with Bol is he had more blocks than points. :D

That he did lol

ThuglifeJ
08-02-2013, 02:37 PM
I don't see attachment to players nowadays either. You still see tons of Iverson, Kobe, tmac, Vince, shaq, ray, etc fans today no matter their role.

I think the personalities were just so good in that era. Kids nowadays just seem kinda awkward and won't still be getting all star votes as soon as they decline like many old vets do now days. If shaq came back and played 1 min a game he'd still get votes. I miss Yao a lot too

WadeKobe
08-02-2013, 03:40 PM
http://wagesofwins.com/2013/01/02/the-myth-of-the-2004-pistons/

"The Pistons had a star, they had center Ben Wallace."