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waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:01 PM
If you hate free agency hype, it's going to be a long season for you.

Carmelo Anthony is already being discussed as a potential Lakers target, despite the keys to the kingdom New York has given him. And in a recent interview, Melo said when asked if this season will determine whether he stays a Knick, Anthony dodged the question.

“It's a big year,” said Anthony, who recently returned from a Jordan Brand trip to China with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. “A huge upcoming season for me, as a team and as an organization.”

Will this season determine whether he remains in New York long-term?

“I can't do that,” Anthony said. “It's too tough right now.”

via Melo: A huge upcoming season for me - Knicks Blog - ESPN New York.

I want everyone reading this to take note of this moment. Anthony could have simply said "I love New York and provided we show we're still a contender, I plan to re-sign." Or he could have said, "I'm definitely going to opt-out and become a free agent to look around at my options, no matter what." He answers this question in that way, and there's a flurry of questions before training camp, and then it's done. He would have answered the question and not owe anyone anything else.

But by dodging the question, he opens up the speculation for a full year.

What's crazy in this instance is that the Knicks have opened up and given Anthony whatever he wanted. The Knicks executive office is comprised of people under the umbrella of CAA who represents him. Mike Woodson was specifically chosen to replace Mike D'Antoni with Melo in mind. The roster was constructed with guys Anthony trusts and likes. They've made Madison Square Garden into MeloLand, and it's still not enough to guarantee his loyalty. This is the new NBA power reality.

For all the ways the owners exploited the union's weakness in the lockout, players have taken more and more control over their own fate. LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are set to add to that latest chapter. There seems to be no end in sight to this madness, no level of commitment and sacrifice that's enough to inspire loyalty among the NBA's elite. It's basketball Darwinism, and Melo intends to fully take advantage of his predator status.

Whether that means seeking better options elsewhere or forcing the Knicks into more desperation moves (and this for a team that just traded for Andrea Bargnani), Melo's going to get what he wants and do what's best for his brand. And we're going to get a year of speculation about what that is. "MeloDrama Part II: The Reckoning" coming this summer to a free agency period near you!

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22951400/get-ready-for-a-year-of-questions-about-carmelo-anthonys-free-agency

GiantsSwaGG
07-31-2013, 02:05 PM
I pray he leaves. Give me Rondo, Love and Gasol

IBleedPurple
07-31-2013, 02:12 PM
This sounds familiar

HeaTxRipZz
07-31-2013, 02:15 PM
Ironically you posted nothing else that was said in the article. Complete waste of a post. Post the entire article and bold what you want, don't pick pieces out to fit your agenda

NYCkid12
07-31-2013, 02:17 PM
So let me get this straight, after forcing the hand of the Denver Nuggets to trade him to NY and not allow them to make a deal with any other team to possibly get a bigger return, a few years later he is now unsure of if he wants to stay.....

I don't blame him for wanting a winning team, but I do want to point out that this is exactly what people kill LeBron for. Mello tried to go to NY to create a super team of his own , it just happen to fail.

Htownballa1622
07-31-2013, 02:22 PM
I pray he leaves. Give me Rondo, Love and Gasol

That team would be arguably worse.

NYKnicks4511
07-31-2013, 02:25 PM
This is a politically correct statement for Melo. Does he want to lock himself into a deal with the Knicks only to break fans' hearts and subject himself to a media firestorm if he happens to find a better situation? Of course not. But there are 30 million reasons why Carmelo would stay in New York, not to mention the additional money he draws from sponsorships and advertising etc.

My bet is that he still stays, but you really can't blame the guy for keeping his options open. This is a make or break season for the Knicks despite the fact that we have a lot of flexibility going forward from 2015. The guy is in his prime and is salivating for at least a Finals appearance. If the Knicks can't make noise this year, then there's really nothing holding him here unless the Knicks can quickly get rid of Amar'es expiring deal next summer and then swing a deal for a bona fide star.

BklynKnicks3
07-31-2013, 02:27 PM
No news here ill bet anything Melo retires a knick

NYKnickFanatic
07-31-2013, 02:34 PM
Wavey loves posting Knicks threads. He is always the first to break news about our team. Thanks Wavey! :) :love:

NYKnickFanatic
07-31-2013, 02:36 PM
Wavey, I thought Melo is terrible and the Knicks will never win anything with him? So if he does leave, wouldn't that be a positive for NY? Troll thread fail.

smood999
07-31-2013, 02:42 PM
The question was will this upcoming season have an effect on his decision not will you commit to the Knicks past this season. You just pulled a Skip Bayless...regardless, he shouldn't commit to anything now anyway...players rarely do.

BigBlueCrew
07-31-2013, 02:42 PM
Ironically you posted nothing else that was said in the article. Complete waste of a post. Post the entire article and bold what you want, don't pick pieces out to fit your agenda

arent all his posts complete waste of times?

mjm07
07-31-2013, 02:44 PM
No news here? He forced his way out of Denver for old CBA money and to be with his "hometown" team yet can't commit to them long term cuz they haven't gone past the 2nd round. LBJ says this he's the anti-christ once again. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Either way i would be shocked if he leaves NY. This article proves nothing.

waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:44 PM
Ironically you posted nothing else that was said in the article. Complete waste of a post. Post the entire article and bold what you want, don't pick pieces out to fit your agenda

I posted the entire article wtf you talking about

elledaddy
07-31-2013, 02:44 PM
Lebron James when asked the same question in a interview........." I dont know, because I havent really even thought about it"
While Bosh and Wade both said they want to retire Miami Heat...

Who knows, maybe Lebron and Melo wouldn't mind playing on the same team

waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:45 PM
Wavey, I thought Melo is terrible and the Knicks will never win anything with him? So if he does leave, wouldn't that be a positive for NY? Troll thread fail.

I never said he wasn't terrible or negative for the Knicks or anything otherwise I just posted a CBS article that just came out.

waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:46 PM
No news here ill bet anything Dwight retires a Laker

Lakers fan last year

Kashmir13579
07-31-2013, 02:46 PM
If we lose 'Melo we can replace him with a better franchise player. :shrug:

waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:48 PM
If we lose 'Melo we can replace him with a better franchise player. :shrug:
Or just flat out build a better team. Teams way too focused on having 1 guy forgetting about the other 7 you need to build a contender.

Kashmir13579
07-31-2013, 02:51 PM
Or just flat out build a better team. Teams way too focused on having 1 guy forgetting about the other 7 you need to build a contender.

Have Garnett and Pierce committed to playing basketball beyond 2013?

BigBlueCrew
07-31-2013, 02:53 PM
Have Garnett and Pierce committed to playing basketball in 2013?

Well obviously they found some joker to pay them. now 82 games thats another story.

2-ONE-5
07-31-2013, 02:53 PM
2013 season is barely over and we already got like 5 threads about Melo possibly leaving NYK. cant you just wait til AFTER this season is played when the story is relevant?

waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:56 PM
Well obviously they found some joker to pay them. now 82 games thats another story.

Yea too bad we whiffed on Artest and Bargani. We could of been contenders

waveycrockett
07-31-2013, 02:56 PM
Have Garnett and Pierce committed to playing basketball beyond 2013?

Are they free agents next summer?

elledaddy
07-31-2013, 02:57 PM
I cant wait for that magical day when I come on PSD and the top 5 threads in the NBA Forum are all about the Knicks......

KNICKS threads ARE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigBlueCrew
07-31-2013, 02:57 PM
Yea too bad we whiffed on Artest and Bargani. We could of been contenders

You still arent :confused:

elledaddy
07-31-2013, 02:58 PM
Are they free agents next summer?


Pierce is, isnt he?

BigBlueCrew
07-31-2013, 03:00 PM
Pierce is, isnt he?

yup

Bostonjorge
07-31-2013, 03:03 PM
Melo is going to LA to build a super team with kobe. Lakers will still have cap room to sign another super star or trade for 1.

Utd7
07-31-2013, 03:09 PM
If he leaves I certainly won't loose sleep over it. We would find replacements.

HeaTxRipZz
07-31-2013, 03:09 PM
I posted the entire article wtf you talking about

......No you didn't -_- but continue to lie

This is the full article


LAS VEGAS -- Carmelo Anthony has been staying out of the spotlight, trying to maintain a low profile while the Knicks made personnel moves to keep the team competitive enough -- and also make certain their star forward is happy enough to remain in New York beyond this season.

Ive been staying under the radar, Anthony told ESPN.com while in Las Vegas coaching his Team Melo summer program. I let them do what they do. We got [Metta World Peace], and I think [Andrea] Bargnani was really a steal for us. Hell help us spread the floor. We got J.R. [Smith] back and we kept the core guys together.

The Knicks were 54-28 last season and advanced to the Eastern Conference semifinals -- where they lost to the Indiana Pacers. Anthony has two more years on his current contract, but can opt out and become a free agent after this season.

Its a big year, said Anthony, who recently returned from a Jordan Brand trip to China with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. A huge upcoming season for me, as a team and as an organization.

New York dealt Steve Novak, Marcus Camby and two draft picks -- including a first-rounder in 2016 -- to acquire the much-maligned Bargnani, the No. 1 draft pick in 2006. The Knicks also signed Metta World Peace to a two-year deal after he was amnestied by the Los Angeles Lakers, inked J.R. Smith to a three-year contract worth about $6 million per season and brought Pablo Prigioni and Kenyon Martin back.

However, Anthony watched the team across town, the Brooklyn Nets, go out and pull off the blockbuster trade of the offseason, acquiring Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Jason Terry from Boston in return for Gerald Wallace, Kris Humphries, Keith Bogans, MarShon Brooks and a trio of first-round draft picks. Brooklyn also hired his former teammate, Jason Kidd, as its head coach fresh off of retirement.

Well see whether we have enough, Anthony said. We havent even stepped on the court yet.

Its special what [Brooklyn] did, he added. J-Kidd will have four or five future Hall of Famers. I played with him for a year and also with USA Basketball and I know his mentality. He knows the game. It wont be hard for him to deal with those guys because hell put them in position and only have to tell them things one time.

Anthony recently turned 29. He won a national championship with Syracuse in 2003, has been an NBA All-Star on six occasions and won the scoring title this past year. However, hes never won an NBA title.

Will this season determine whether he remains in New York long-term?

I cant do that, Anthony said. Its too tough right now.

BenFrank
07-31-2013, 03:14 PM
He goes to Houston for Lin, Asik, and Parsons in a S&T

Nycbball08
07-31-2013, 03:17 PM
:bla::bla::bla::sleep:

bholly
07-31-2013, 03:27 PM
No news here ill bet anything Melo retires a knick

Damn, if someone offered me that bet in real life I'd be doing backflips.


This is a politically correct statement for Melo.

Isn't the 'politically correct' answer here something like 'yeah, I love this team and franchise and these fans and this city, and I'm looking forward to bringing them a championship' - ie just the usual platitude without really answering the commitment question?

Chronz
07-31-2013, 11:01 PM
So why havent the owners put it in the CBA that players can make more money if they extend rather than wait for FA? That way we dont have to have this circus as often..... under this system Melo shouldn't extend, might as well weigh your options when the time comes.

Cracka2HI!
07-31-2013, 11:31 PM
Clippers...CP3 toast.

AI
07-31-2013, 11:33 PM
Yet another Wavey thread related to NY or Melo, the sick obsession continues.

smood999
07-31-2013, 11:34 PM
I don't understand most of the responses...please read the question...

Will this season determine whether he remains in New York long-term?

not

Will you sign an extension, will you commit to the team long-term etc...

Regardless, like some have mentioned players won't extend under this CBA when they can get more money by waiting for their contracts to expire...

waveycrockett
08-01-2013, 12:58 AM
Seems to be alot of butt hurt NYK fans who seem to want to attack the messenger instead of reading the article written by CBS today and commenting on that. Oh well Whatever helps them sleep at night I guess....

waveycrockett
08-01-2013, 01:00 AM
Clippers...CP3 toast.

S&T Melo for Blake?? Could be if CP3/Blake relationship does not improve this season.

kblo247
08-01-2013, 01:16 AM
So why havent the owners put it in the CBA that players can make more money if they extend rather than wait for FA? That way we dont have to have this circus as often..... under this system Melo shouldn't extend, might as well weigh your options when the time comes.

Correct, no one should extend under his system. They make more by opting out which seems counterproductive to keeping guys

Chronz
08-01-2013, 01:46 AM
S&T Melo for Blake?? Could be if CP3/Blake relationship does not improve this season.

Their relationship is great.

JWorthy42
08-01-2013, 02:04 AM
Am I the only Lakers fan who really doesn't want Melo?

Also, Lebron is not coming to the Lakers get that through your heads.

sjbirds
08-01-2013, 02:11 AM
Seems to be alot of butt hurt NYK fans who seem to want to attack the messenger instead of reading the article written by CBS today and commenting on that. Oh well Whatever helps them sleep at night I guess....
I don't like the Knicks or nets but I see you're a nets fan so why do you always post about the Knicks? Inferiority complex? Let it go buddy.someday the nets will be relevant. Now before you say how bad my Sixers are I know they are so don't try that

waveycrockett
08-01-2013, 02:16 AM
I don't like the Knicks or nets but I see you're a nets fan so why do you always post about the Knicks? Inferiority complex? Let it go buddy.someday the nets will be relevant. Now before you say how bad my Sixers are I know they are so don't try that

Your right buddy Nets are so totally not relevant. All these primetime games and Christmas day matchups and 5 allstars and a looming allstar weekend at Barclays Center just goes to show how totally irrelevant we are.

DreamShaker
08-01-2013, 02:18 AM
Am I the only Lakers fan who really doesn't want Melo?

Also, Lebron is not coming to the Lakers get that through your heads.

I still see Kevin Love as the next big star to come to LA. He is a California guy through and through. His Uncles started the Beach Boys!

It is smart for Melo not to say anything that will come back to haunt him. A lot can happen in a year.

JWorthy42
08-01-2013, 02:24 AM
I still see Kevin Love as the next big star to come to LA. He is a California guy through and through. His Uncles started the Beach Boys!

It is smart for Melo not to say anything that will come back to haunt him. A lot can happen in a year.

Yeah, I can see that happen.

Regarding Melo, I just feel like its not a good fit and he is not the young next torch bearer that the Lakers are looking for. He will be what? 30-31?

AI
08-01-2013, 02:32 AM
Seems to be alot of butt hurt NYK fans who seem to want to attack the messenger instead of reading the article written by CBS today and commenting on that. Oh well Whatever helps them sleep at night I guess....

Why should we be butthurt? It's you that waits in the wings waiting for any Knicks related news you can twist to bait or troll. The evidence is right here in all these threads you've made:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?828140-LA-Times-Lakers-Aiming-for-MELO-in-14-not-LBJ
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819717-Tyson-Chandler-The-Eastern-Conference-Kendrick-Perkins
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819367-Rhianna-Jr-Smith-a-lame-and-Is-hungover-every-night
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819066-Shumpert-damages-repaired-knee-Rose-vindicated
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?818740-Bigger-Postseason-Disaster-JR-Smith-or-Carmelo-Anthony
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?812964-FORBES-Carmelo-Anthony-is-1-OVERPAID-NBA-Player
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792964-Do-you-think-Amare-can-still-score-20-pts-in-1-HALF
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792944-Amare-says-he-was-never-coached-defense
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?809012-Melo-may-have-partially-TORN-meniscus-or-ARTHRITIC-knee!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?789901-Mike-D-Antoni-never-wanted-Amare-in-NY
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?748334-No-wonder-why-JR-Smith-signed-for-so-little-with-the-Knicks
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?742003-Jason-Kidd-may-have-tried-to-commit-SUICIDE!!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?741782-Raymond-FelTON-will-fight-fans-and-score-50-on-Blazers

Your agenda is clear, you have a sick obsession with the Knicks and you are a massive troll.

Seriously though, get some help, then proceed to get a life. Carry on.

waveycrockett
08-01-2013, 02:36 AM
Why should we be butthurt? It's you that waits in the wings waiting for any Knicks related news you can twist to bait or troll. The evidence is right here in all these threads you've made:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?828140-LA-Times-Lakers-Aiming-for-MELO-in-14-not-LBJ
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819717-Tyson-Chandler-The-Eastern-Conference-Kendrick-Perkins
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819367-Rhianna-Jr-Smith-a-lame-and-Is-hungover-every-night
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819066-Shumpert-damages-repaired-knee-Rose-vindicated
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?818740-Bigger-Postseason-Disaster-JR-Smith-or-Carmelo-Anthony
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?812964-FORBES-Carmelo-Anthony-is-1-OVERPAID-NBA-Player
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792964-Do-you-think-Amare-can-still-score-20-pts-in-1-HALF
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792944-Amare-says-he-was-never-coached-defense
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?809012-Melo-may-have-partially-TORN-meniscus-or-ARTHRITIC-knee!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?789901-Mike-D-Antoni-never-wanted-Amare-in-NY
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?748334-No-wonder-why-JR-Smith-signed-for-so-little-with-the-Knicks
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?742003-Jason-Kidd-may-have-tried-to-commit-SUICIDE!!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?741782-Raymond-FelTON-will-fight-fans-and-score-50-on-Blazers

Your agenda is clear, you have a sick obsession with the Knicks and you are a massive troll.

Seriously though, get some help, then proceed to get a life. Carry on.

I think it's you that has the obsession with me. Kind of sick you save all those.

AI
08-01-2013, 02:43 AM
I think it's you that has the obsession with me. Kind of sick you save all those.

Save? Don't flatter yourself. :laugh2:

It's quite simple, you click on the user, view profile then click "find latest started threads" and they all appear. There are quite a few more, but by the time I copy pasted those links I think my point was made abundantly clear.

True Sports Fan
08-01-2013, 02:54 AM
Here we go again

OceanSpray
08-01-2013, 03:05 AM
Who cares. This guy can't carry his team anywhere. It doesn't matter what team Melo goes to, he simply doesn't have the IT factor that makes him a winner. The media will create drama out of this but we all know Melo isn't going to change a thing.

sjbirds
08-01-2013, 08:48 AM
I don't like the Knicks or nets but I see you're a nets fan so why do you always post about the Knicks? Inferiority complex? Let it go buddy.someday the nets will be relevant. Now before you say how bad my Sixers are I know they are so don't try that

Your right buddy Nets are so totally not relevant. All these primetime games and Christmas day matchups and 5 allstars and a looming allstar weekend at Barclays Center just goes to show how totally irrelevant we are.
All star game doesn't mean ****.former all stars and how did that work for the lal?'they made one of the most overrated trades of all time

Becks2307
08-01-2013, 08:55 AM
Why do you guys care? isn't Melo an inefficient chucker who can't do anything? According to PSD isn't this a great move for us?

D-Leethal
08-01-2013, 09:12 AM
Why should we be butthurt? It's you that waits in the wings waiting for any Knicks related news you can twist to bait or troll. The evidence is right here in all these threads you've made:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?828140-LA-Times-Lakers-Aiming-for-MELO-in-14-not-LBJ
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819717-Tyson-Chandler-The-Eastern-Conference-Kendrick-Perkins
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819367-Rhianna-Jr-Smith-a-lame-and-Is-hungover-every-night
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819066-Shumpert-damages-repaired-knee-Rose-vindicated
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?818740-Bigger-Postseason-Disaster-JR-Smith-or-Carmelo-Anthony
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?812964-FORBES-Carmelo-Anthony-is-1-OVERPAID-NBA-Player
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792964-Do-you-think-Amare-can-still-score-20-pts-in-1-HALF
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792944-Amare-says-he-was-never-coached-defense
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?809012-Melo-may-have-partially-TORN-meniscus-or-ARTHRITIC-knee!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?789901-Mike-D-Antoni-never-wanted-Amare-in-NY
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?748334-No-wonder-why-JR-Smith-signed-for-so-little-with-the-Knicks
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?742003-Jason-Kidd-may-have-tried-to-commit-SUICIDE!!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?741782-Raymond-FelTON-will-fight-fans-and-score-50-on-Blazers

Your agenda is clear, you have a sick obsession with the Knicks and you are a massive troll.

Seriously though, get some help, then proceed to get a life. Carry on.

LOLOL. This guy is such a clown.

Why would Melo commit anything verbally until he signs an extension?

Knicks21
08-01-2013, 09:22 AM
Why should we be butthurt? It's you that waits in the wings waiting for any Knicks related news you can twist to bait or troll. The evidence is right here in all these threads you've made:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?828140-LA-Times-Lakers-Aiming-for-MELO-in-14-not-LBJ
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819717-Tyson-Chandler-The-Eastern-Conference-Kendrick-Perkins
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819367-Rhianna-Jr-Smith-a-lame-and-Is-hungover-every-night
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819066-Shumpert-damages-repaired-knee-Rose-vindicated
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?818740-Bigger-Postseason-Disaster-JR-Smith-or-Carmelo-Anthony
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?812964-FORBES-Carmelo-Anthony-is-1-OVERPAID-NBA-Player
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792964-Do-you-think-Amare-can-still-score-20-pts-in-1-HALF
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792944-Amare-says-he-was-never-coached-defense
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?809012-Melo-may-have-partially-TORN-meniscus-or-ARTHRITIC-knee!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?789901-Mike-D-Antoni-never-wanted-Amare-in-NY
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?748334-No-wonder-why-JR-Smith-signed-for-so-little-with-the-Knicks
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?742003-Jason-Kidd-may-have-tried-to-commit-SUICIDE!!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?741782-Raymond-FelTON-will-fight-fans-and-score-50-on-Blazers

Your agenda is clear, you have a sick obsession with the Knicks and you are a massive troll.

Seriously though, get some help, then proceed to get a life. Carry on.

Hahahahahaha thats gold. Especially the second last link (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?742003-Jason-Kidd-may-have-tried-to-commit-SUICIDE), thats your coach dude. Might need Jeremy Lin to mentor him lol.

D-Leethal
08-01-2013, 09:33 AM
hahaha, ****ing Wavey. Such a clown.

29$JerZ
08-01-2013, 09:46 AM
I think it's you that has the obsession with me. Kind of sick you save all those.

Why do you have the Knick subway logo tattooed on your left ball?

Rockice_8
08-01-2013, 10:01 AM
LBJ to NY. . . . Knicks fans > :dance:

Melo not committed to NY . . . . Knicks fans > :rolleyes:

GiantsSwaGG
08-01-2013, 10:01 AM
Why do you have the Knick subway logo tattooed on your left ball?

:laugh:

D-Leethal
08-01-2013, 10:13 AM
LBJ to NY. . . . Knicks fans > :dance:

Melo not committed to NY . . . . Knicks fans > :rolleyes:

Mostly every single Knick fan dismissed that SAS LeBron article as hogwash.

Sly Guy
08-01-2013, 10:46 AM
between the heat, the knicks, and the rockets, are we beginning to see the precedent LeBron's 'decision' established yet?

NYJ - NYY
08-01-2013, 11:27 AM
first off- from what ive read on here (PSD site) melo is an inefficient chucker who cant carry a team, doesnt play defense, and doesnt help his teammates get better, so i ask you PSD why do you give a ****?

secondly- lets play the 2013 season before everyone goes all wacky

thirdly - **** you waveycocket you are a clown andare equal on the clown scale to nets nuthugger buddy dmf... take some time off psd its summer work, go out enjoy life, not from behind a computer screen

BigBlueCrew
08-01-2013, 11:42 AM
Why should we be butthurt? It's you that waits in the wings waiting for any Knicks related news you can twist to bait or troll. The evidence is right here in all these threads you've made:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?828140-LA-Times-Lakers-Aiming-for-MELO-in-14-not-LBJ
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819717-Tyson-Chandler-The-Eastern-Conference-Kendrick-Perkins
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819367-Rhianna-Jr-Smith-a-lame-and-Is-hungover-every-night
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?819066-Shumpert-damages-repaired-knee-Rose-vindicated
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?818740-Bigger-Postseason-Disaster-JR-Smith-or-Carmelo-Anthony
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?812964-FORBES-Carmelo-Anthony-is-1-OVERPAID-NBA-Player
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792964-Do-you-think-Amare-can-still-score-20-pts-in-1-HALF
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?792944-Amare-says-he-was-never-coached-defense
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?809012-Melo-may-have-partially-TORN-meniscus-or-ARTHRITIC-knee!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?789901-Mike-D-Antoni-never-wanted-Amare-in-NY
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?748334-No-wonder-why-JR-Smith-signed-for-so-little-with-the-Knicks
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?742003-Jason-Kidd-may-have-tried-to-commit-SUICIDE!!!!
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?741782-Raymond-FelTON-will-fight-fans-and-score-50-on-Blazers

Your agenda is clear, you have a sick obsession with the Knicks and you are a massive troll.

Seriously though, get some help, then proceed to get a life. Carry on.

Wow. That's awesome work. I just remember the ridiculous Jason Kidd thread.

Its kinda pathetic. Their owner bought in KG, Paul Pierce, and Jason Terry and who does that loser have his signature.....that's right JR Smith. For better or worse this will always be a Knicks town no matter what Proky does.

KingsOfQueens
08-01-2013, 11:57 AM
Wavey, you're a loser man. No one even likes you in the Mets forum. You just suck. At everything.

You have a Knicks player in your sig. You make more Knicks threads than Nets threads.

You'd rather have the Knicks do bad than the Nets do well. That's sad. Get a life. Go butt**** DMF.

BklynKnicks3
08-01-2013, 12:04 PM
Lakers fan? at least make sense
Lakers fan last year

Sandman
08-01-2013, 12:24 PM
I think CP3 is a better comparison than Dwight. The lack of success and the presence of D'an were obvious issues from the get-go + it was uncertain if he wanted to be there anyway. He was CLEARLY butt hurt from the lack of a Nets deal.

this is overanalyzing a PC response from Melo

OH BUT HE COULD HAVE SAID THIS HE COULD HAVE SAID THAT

dude is going to be asked this question 5000 times this season, and another 5000 times next season because it is only an ETO. I'm sure at some point every type of politically correct non-response is going to come out of his mouth.

I also don't think he can even sign a contract extension until next summer. What do you want? A verbal Knicks BJ from Melo? Dwight voided his ETO and still asked out of Orlando. All this talk means nothing.

Also, you haters are quick to say Melo should have waited until Free Agency to sign with the Knicks (which doesn't make sense) and overlook that he'll be leaving money on the table if he goes and signs with the Lakers. :bs:

So how are we hating him today folks? Is he a greedy selfish ballhog because he's on the Knicks? Or is he a great player trapped on a "losing" team because he's supposedly going to the Lakers?

Stinkyoutsider
08-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Clever answer by Melo...

That is a good answer given. I think Melo wants to be in NY but he wants to win above all else. And, he wants to do it his way which means the Knicks aren't done with their work. Indirectly, Melo has made it known that there needs to be a few changes as far as players for the Knicks to get over the hump and make it to the finals.

It all comes down to Melo being satisfied. If he is, he'll sign. If he's not, he'll leave (even though NY is home and he loves playing here).

todu82
08-01-2013, 12:36 PM
Yeah, I think that Melo stays a Knick for the long term.

TheNumber37
08-01-2013, 01:04 PM
He's not going anywhere. He signed that 3 year 60 deal, making him eligible for the Kobe Contract after.

Thats about 25 per, with perhaps a year of 30 mil.

He should re up for 120 for 5 years. But they really cant do much until Amare comes off the books.

Chill_Will_24
08-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Melo wanted every penny while in Denver and through the Melodrama. He will want every penny now. He wont leave money on the table

colinskik
08-01-2013, 01:06 PM
Your right buddy Nets are so totally not relevant. All these primetime games and Christmas day matchups and 5 allstars and a looming allstar weekend at Barclays Center just goes to show how totally irrelevant we are.

And yet still the number 2 team in New York. The Mets of basketball.

Chill_Will_24
08-01-2013, 01:09 PM
Why do you have the Knick subway logo tattooed on your left ball?

Some moderator. So instead of closing the thread you decide to join in on the baiting knowing full well Wavey is just trying to carry on with DMF's noble work?

Chill_Will_24
08-01-2013, 01:11 PM
And yet still the number 2 team in New York. The Mets of basketball.

Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

colinskik
08-01-2013, 01:17 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

You misunderstand. Regardless of which team ends up with the better record, Nets will always #2 in NY.

NYJ - NYY
08-01-2013, 01:22 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

really? lol cmon now guy think outside the "analysts" this is an orange and blue city always has been and always will be... MSG world most famous arena and its the Knicks a staple of basketball past present and future

Rockice_8
08-01-2013, 01:52 PM
And yet still the number 2 team in New York. The Mets of basketball.

That would require one team to be the Yankees and we all know that is laughable.

NYKnickFanatic
08-01-2013, 01:57 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

To be fair, most analysts picked BK to have a better record than NY last year. Also, every single analyst had Boston winning the division last year.

justinnum1
08-01-2013, 01:58 PM
Best thing that can happen to the knicks is melo leaves and NY can finally get a #1 guy.

Bruno
08-01-2013, 01:59 PM
So why havent the owners put it in the CBA that players can make more money if they extend rather than wait for FA? That way we dont have to have this circus as often..... under this system Melo shouldn't extend, might as well weigh your options when the time comes.

good point. if the league gets sick of these soap-operas, then maybe they should alter the CBA to provide more incentive.

DetroitBadBoy
08-01-2013, 02:01 PM
Back to the topic of the article...at least Melo has no legacy to protect. He can hop from team to team and won't be hated like LeBron.

NYKnickFanatic
08-01-2013, 02:15 PM
Back to the topic of the article...at least Melo has no legacy to protect. He can hop from team to team and won't be hated like LeBron.

Like Dwight?

Ill21
08-01-2013, 02:31 PM
Bye Melo! Don't want anyone on the team who doesn't want to be here

Sly Guy
08-01-2013, 02:40 PM
He's not going anywhere. He signed that 3 year 60 deal, making him eligible for the Kobe Contract after.

Thats about 25 per, with perhaps a year of 30 mil.

He should re up for 120 for 5 years. But they really cant do much until Amare comes off the books.

If the knicks wanna sign him for 25-30$mil let them. He's in no way worth anywhere near that. Half that is more appropriate. Kobe's not worth his contract on production alone, but if you look at the figures from Forbes, Melo's nowhere near kobe's marketing appeal in terms of advertising income.

29$JerZ
08-01-2013, 03:37 PM
Some moderator. So instead of closing the thread you decide to join in on the baiting knowing full well Wavey is just trying to carry on with DMF's noble work?

I'm not a NBA mod.
And it's not baiting, he really does have that tattoo.

GiantsSwaGG
08-01-2013, 03:41 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

Just like last year and how did that end?

KnickaBocka.44
08-01-2013, 05:06 PM
Best thing that can happen to the knicks is melo leaves and NY can finally get a #1 guy.

Or Melo stays and they get a #1 guy...

LongIslandIcedZ
08-01-2013, 05:44 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

I actually believe the Nets are slightly better than the Knicks on paper going into the season.

Having said that, every intelligent basketball analyst had Boston/Brooklyn/Philadelphia ahead of the Knicks last year, and we know how that turned out.

Like I said, I give the Nets the slight edge going into the season, but the basketball experts arent always right.

justinnum1
08-01-2013, 05:53 PM
Or Melo stays and they get a #1 guy...

Nah, your team is not winning a ring if you have melo on it.

Jesse2272
08-01-2013, 05:56 PM
******** we can win with Melo

Just not solely Melo

and who the **** cares, he stays he goes, players come and go, Ive been and will be a NYK fan longer than most players will ever be on my ****ing team

Knicks21
08-01-2013, 06:00 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

And because that defines all.

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8517191/2012-13-nba-predictions-atlantic-division-champion

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8517206/2012-13-nba-predictions-pacific-division-champion

KnickaBocka.44
08-01-2013, 06:49 PM
Nah, your team is not winning a ring if you have melo on it.

These are the kinds of blanket statements that make you not worth talking to.

east fb knicks
08-01-2013, 07:14 PM
lmao what a joke yo if we suck this year you can't blame him for wanting to leave but the problem is we are a top 4 seed out east and we are going to make noise in the playoffs he also said he likes the additions we've made this offseason sooooo why didn't you highlight that clown

D-Leethal
08-01-2013, 07:48 PM
Nope. Pretty much every intelligent basketball analyst has the Nets above the Knicks now

If thats the case I like our chances.

smood999
08-01-2013, 08:01 PM
That would require one team to be the Yankees and we all know that is laughable.

in terms of popularity the Knicks are indeed the Yankees in basketball as far as NY goes...not achievements...some would argue that NY is a basketball city and that the Knicks are more popular than the Yankees. When the Knicks are good all NY teams take a back seat. Idk how the comparison is laughable...we've touched on the Knicks being as popular/valuable/famous a franchise as any but they don't have the achievements of those franchises across all sports that they are linked with in past threads...nothing laughable

smood999
08-01-2013, 08:18 PM
Best thing that can happen to the knicks is melo leaves and NY can finally get a #1 guy.

how many stars have won championships since 1990? Jordan, Hakeem, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, LeBron....those 6 players have all the championships the past 23 seasons outside of Det, Dal, Bos...so how many players can realistically win a championship?

you know another thing that all those teams have in common? Who they were paired with...Jordan/Pippen...Jordan/Pippen/Rodman...Hakeem/Drexler...Duncan/Robinson...Duncan/Ginobli/Parker...Shaq/Kobe..Shaq/Wade...Kobe/Shaq...Kobe/Gasol/Bynum...Kobe/Gasol/Bynum/Artest....LeBron/Wade/Bosh...do you see a trend?

Not only were these players great they were surrounded by other great players...the 3 titles that these players did not get, one of them belongs to Pierce/Garnett/Allen combo...Dallas is the exception...Detroit is an exception but not as much as Dallas...they had Wallace/Wallace/Hamilton/Billups.

Point being...give the Knicks Harden, Love, Westbrook, even Durant instead, it's still most likely not a championship team...CP3 has never made it out of the 2nd round...put combinations of 2-3 of the top 15-20 NBA players and maybe. Teams don't win championships without multiple great players. No one player gets the job done solo. You can't single out one player and say he can't win cause historically it's not done by one player, but a combination instead.

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 12:21 AM
You misunderstand. Regardless of which team ends up with the better record, Nets will always #2 in NY.

That remains to be seen. This is the first time NY has had 2 basketball teams. Its also pointless comparing it to Lakers/Clippers since the Knicks wish they had the history and winning pedigree that the Lakers have. the Mets/Yankees comparison is even more idiotic

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 12:26 AM
To be fair, most analysts picked BK to have a better record than NY last year. Also, every single analyst had Boston winning the division last year.

If by most analysts you mean constant Knicks haters Barkley and Shaq then you are right. I seem to remember not that many buying into what the Nets were selling last year, myself included. I was constantly called out for being against my own team and being overly pessimistic. I have even been unfairly banned several times from NetsDaily

I never had the Nets getting out of the first round last year nor having a high seed. This year though i can confidently say i believe the Nets to be far superior to the Knicks and prior to the Scola trade i had the Nets above the Pacers as well.

the Nets are clearly better this year

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 12:29 AM
Just like last year and how did that end?

Its so hard to take you seriously. You rarely make your own points, preferring instead to piggy back off of points made by other, more intelligent Knicks fans.

Between you and BrooklynKnicks3 i cannot decide which is the Knicks version of DMF and which is Wavey

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 12:32 AM
I actually believe the Nets are slightly better than the Knicks on paper going into the season.

Having said that, every intelligent basketball analyst had Boston/Brooklyn/Philadelphia ahead of the Knicks last year, and we know how that turned out.

Like I said, I give the Nets the slight edge going into the season, but the basketball experts arent always right.

Well if by "intelligent analysts" you mean Knicks haters like Shaq and Barkley then you would be correct. Maybe analyst is the wrong term. I am focusing less on the TV personalities and more on the writers that use actual data to support their points and i remember very few buying into the nets last year

LongIslandIcedZ
08-02-2013, 12:36 AM
Well if by "intelligent analysts" you mean Knicks haters like Shaq and Barkley then you would be correct. Maybe analyst is the wrong term. I am focusing less on the TV personalities and more on the writers that use actual data to support their points and i remember very few buying into the nets last year

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8517191/2012-13-nba-predictions-atlantic-division-champion

Most of them picked Boston as opposed to the Nets, but the point is that none of them picked the Knicks. There are some respected writers in there mixed with some common espn trash writers.

Knicks fans for once have a pretty good reason to not take analysts/writers seriously going into this season.

sunsfan88
08-02-2013, 12:38 AM
Of course Melo won't commit already...he wants to put the pressure on the NY FO to improve the roster.

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 12:42 AM
And because that defines all.

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8517191/2012-13-nba-predictions-atlantic-division-champion

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8517206/2012-13-nba-predictions-pacific-division-champion

I do not read anything by ESPN and when i watch it is purely for entertainment. These were not the type of analysts i was referring to.

I focus more on people that support their analysis with facts and i remember nobody like that choosing the Nets last year over the Knicks.

Leave it to Knicks fans to grasp at every last straw just to hold on to the hope that their team has not been passed by in the Eastern Conference

I have it:

Heat
Nets
Pacers
Bulls
(bold pick) Pistons
Knicks
Cavs
Raptors

LongIslandIcedZ
08-02-2013, 01:48 AM
I do not read anything by ESPN and when i watch it is purely for entertainment. These were not the type of analysts i was referring to.

I focus more on people that support their analysis with facts and i remember nobody like that choosing the Nets last year over the Knicks.

Leave it to Knicks fans to grasp at every last straw just to hold on to the hope that their team has not been passed by in the Eastern Conference

I have it:

Heat
Nets
Pacers
Bulls
(bold pick) Pistons
Knicks
Cavs
Raptors

This isnt true at all. I've said a few times (and I'm not the only one) that thinks going into the season the Nets have a better team on paper.

Just letting you know that Knicks were in no way favored over the Nets last year according to the majority of writers. Honestly, many fans on here, aside from Knick fans of course, had the Nets as the superior team as well.

waveycrockett
08-02-2013, 02:18 AM
I do not read anything by ESPN and when i watch it is purely for entertainment. These were not the type of analysts i was referring to.

I focus more on people that support their analysis with facts and i remember nobody like that choosing the Nets last year over the Knicks.

Leave it to Knicks fans to grasp at every last straw just to hold on to the hope that their team has not been passed by in the Eastern Conference

I have it:

Heat
Nets
Pacers
Bulls
(bold pick) Pistons
Knicks
Cavs
Raptors
LMAO they are hilarious I will give them that. Trying to act like they were some crazy underdogs last season when probably 6 out of 10 anaylsts picked them to finish ahead of the Nets. Last year it was close in terms of talent but they had the edge in team chemistry and a big edge in the coaching dept (thanks in large part to Kidd). This year its not close at all Nets are head and shoulders above them in every way.

waveycrockett
08-02-2013, 02:56 AM
really? lol cmon now guy think outside the "analysts" this is an orange and blue city always has been and always will be... MSG world most famous arena and its the Knicks a staple of basketball past present and future
And with all that said I'm sure Small town Spurs fans would never trade places with you guys.

SugeKnight
08-02-2013, 04:41 AM
Of course Melo won't commit already...he wants to put the pressure on the NY FO to improve the roster.
this

waveycrockett
08-02-2013, 04:50 AM
Of course Melo won't commit already...he wants to put the pressure on the NY FO to improve the roster.

Which they can't/wont do by 2013.

PurpleJesus
08-02-2013, 05:08 AM
oh em gee!!!! Melo is not happy with the Knicks! Melo to the Grizzlies 2014!

SugeKnight
08-02-2013, 05:15 AM
Can't see melo playing for any other team. In his prime at least

NYYCowboys
08-02-2013, 05:40 AM
Don't let the door hit you on the way out....


I'd be thrilled if he left. He only leaves us in basketball purgatory. We'll be pretty good, but never good enough ti win it all. He can not be the best player on the championship team. Might as well let him leave and start to rebuild or use the money on another player who is a winner.

Knicks21
08-02-2013, 05:41 AM
I do not read anything by ESPN and when i watch it is purely for entertainment. These were not the type of analysts i was referring to.

I focus more on people that support their analysis with facts and i remember nobody like that choosing the Nets last year over the Knicks.

Leave it to Knicks fans to grasp at every last straw just to hold on to the hope that their team has not been passed by in the Eastern Conference

I have it:

Heat
Nets
Pacers
Bulls
(bold pick) Pistons
Knicks
Cavs
Raptors

You're proclaiming you have already won, yet the preseason let alone training camp hasn't even begun. And we are the ones grasping at straws :rolleyes:

Heat
Bulls/Pacers
Pacers/Bulls
Nets
Knicks
Cavaliers
Pistons
Atlanta

You have won on paper, congratulations, but for the 1000th time you have probably heard this, games are won on the court.

And you are absolutely right, that pistons pick is bold.

sunsfan88
08-02-2013, 06:22 AM
Which they can't/wont do by 2013.
Perhaps they already did with the trade they made earlier? Or maybe that's what persuaded Melo to make these comments.

Who knows.

waveycrockett
08-02-2013, 06:34 AM
Perhaps they already did with the trade they made earlier? Or maybe that's what persuaded Melo to make these comments.

Who knows.

You think Andrea Bargani is what puts the Knicks over the Hump and convinces Melo to stay? Srlsly

meloman1592
08-02-2013, 07:26 AM
Wavey...you need a life bro. Your obsession with the Knicks is annoying

Rilen
08-02-2013, 09:00 AM
I think CP3 is a better comparison than Dwight. The lack of success and the presence of D'an were obvious issues from the get-go + it was uncertain if he wanted to be there anyway. He was CLEARLY butt hurt from the lack of a Nets deal.

this is overanalyzing a PC response from Melo

OH BUT HE COULD HAVE SAID THIS HE COULD HAVE SAID THAT

dude is going to be asked this question 5000 times this season, and another 5000 times next season because it is only an ETO. I'm sure at some point every type of politically correct non-response is going to come out of his mouth.

I also don't think he can even sign a contract extension until next summer. What do you want? A verbal Knicks BJ from Melo? Dwight voided his ETO and still asked out of Orlando. All this talk means nothing.

Also, you haters are quick to say Melo should have waited until Free Agency to sign with the Knicks (which doesn't make sense) and overlook that he'll be leaving money on the table if he goes and signs with the Lakers. :bs:

So how are we hating him today folks? Is he a greedy selfish ballhog because he's on the Knicks? Or is he a great player trapped on a "losing" team because he's supposedly going to the Lakers?

From what I have read he can sign an extension Feb 2014, as that would be his third full year,
Just wait for all the questions about signing an extension/opting out then...

sunsfan88
08-02-2013, 09:17 AM
You think Andrea Bargani is what puts the Knicks over the Hump and convinces Melo to stay? Srlsly
Not him but perhaps the cap space they got from that trade (they will have ton of cap space in 2015 cause of that trade) to go and get someone good to pair with Melo.

BklynKnicks3
08-02-2013, 09:45 AM
Not trying to compare Melo not Jordan, but exactly what was said about Jordan in 1990. He is a scorer not a winner doesn't make people better. Jordan gets some help around him the rest is history

NYJ - NYY
08-02-2013, 09:47 AM
And with all that said I'm sure Small town Spurs fans would never trade places with you guys.

so the only thing you had to say about this being a knicks city always was about one of the most successful franchises in NBA history's fan base? wavey you suck **** dude... go outside go to the gym get a girl/guy and enjoy life get off the knicks jock

FOXHOUND
08-02-2013, 10:13 AM
As a Knicks fan this is the exact answer I expected and wanted to hear. If Melo committed to the Knicks already, after going through a season where his second option was JR Smith, his PG was Raymond Felton and he had to play PF for practically the entire year, then that would mean that he is complacent.

All this does is prove what his priorities are;

1. Winning a championship
2. Winning a championship in NY

Melo is trying to be optimistic about it, praising this offseasons moves and I do agree with him on them. Having said that, you'd have to be crazy to commit to a team long term when as of now there will be no one on the roster during the 2015 offseason except Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton (PO) and doubtfully JR Smith (PO) who will no doubt opt out for his last chance at a nice NBA contract at age 29.

On one hand yes, that gives the Knicks about $50M to play with that free agency. With Bird rights that means they can sign two max deals plus resign Melo, or one max deal with two $10M+ deals and retain Melo. In an offseason that is headlined at this point by Marc Gasol as a UFA, IMO, that's certainly exciting.

On the other hand, does that sound like security? Is that something a player should commit to two years before it's even a reality? What if during the 2014-15 season Marc Gasol decides he REALLY loves Memphis and commits to a deal to resign before the 2015 FA period even begins? What if LaMarcus Aldridge is traded to Chicago before then and doesn't even hit the market? I think he's going to Chicago anyways, who will have cap space, but you get the idea.

If Melo said tomorrow that he's all in to be a Knick the rest of his career based on what has been around him and the success the team has had during his two and a half year stint here then I would be disappointed in him as a competitor. There's no doubt he wants to be a Knick, but the team also has to do a good job of surrounding him with championship talent to keep that a reality.

GiantsSwaGG
08-02-2013, 10:23 AM
Its so hard to take you seriously. You rarely make your own points, preferring instead to piggy back off of points made by other, more intelligent Knicks fans.

Between you and BrooklynKnicks3 i cannot decide which is the Knicks version of DMF and which is Wavey

:laugh2: overly sensitive much?

Given how you disappear once expectations haven't been met every year, you have your own pedestal when it comes to the worst nets poster. I can't even compare you I Wavey and DMF, you're your own. And you coming away salty and overly sensitive just proves it. Knicks fans get mad when you say the Nets are better, they're salty right? I've pointed out how ppl had the Nets being better than the Knicks last year and that flopped and now I'm DMF? :laugh: c'mon son...

The point is on paper yes but an injury can change everything. The celtics were suppose to be better than both Knicks and nets and how did that ended? Sixers were suppose to compete, Thunder were suppose to make the finals, Bulls were suppose to make the ECF etc. let the season play out. Stop being so sensitive.

Again I on paper I do believe the Nets are better but I said that last year and I was wrong. Lets see but calling me Wavey and DMF is beyond laughable, let me guess by your praising your team you're Federal Reserve?

GiantsSwaGG
08-02-2013, 10:26 AM
You're proclaiming you have already won, yet the preseason let alone training camp hasn't even begun. And we are the ones grasping at straws :rolleyes:

Heat
Bulls/Pacers
Pacers/Bulls
Nets
Knicks
Cavaliers
Pistons
Atlanta

You have won on paper, congratulations, but for the 1000th time you have probably heard this, games are won on the court.

And you are absolutely right, that pistons pick is bold.

:laugh: Nets fans at their best, you could of sworn they won the trophy when they traded for Joe last year

Rockice_8
08-02-2013, 10:33 AM
in terms of popularity the Knicks are indeed the Yankees in basketball as far as NY goes...not achievements...some would argue that NY is a basketball city and that the Knicks are more popular than the Yankees. When the Knicks are good all NY teams take a back seat. Idk how the comparison is laughable...we've touched on the Knicks being as popular/valuable/famous a franchise as any but they don't have the achievements of those franchises across all sports that they are linked with in past threads...nothing laughable

No No it pretty laughable. This isn't a popularity contest as much you wish it was. It's about winning and neither the Knicks nor Nets can take claim to the Yankees or Lakers as that team in NY.

BK just got to NY so in terms of popularity of coarse the team who's been there for 30+ years will be more popular. It's idiotic to argue otherwise. BK is leaving their mark on the city though and only time will tell who the Yankees/Lakers are of NY.

colinskik
08-02-2013, 11:59 AM
That remains to be seen. This is the first time NY has had 2 basketball teams. Its also pointless comparing it to Lakers/Clippers since the Knicks wish they had the history and winning pedigree that the Lakers have. the Mets/Yankees comparison is even more idiotic

It's hard to tell what's actually happening in NYC from down there in Camden, so allow me to fill you in. No team, regardless of where it is, will ever come into a city with an already established team and become the city's favorite team. Plus, in this case the Nets were essentially already a New York team when they were in Jersey and we all remember the type of following they had even when they were in the finals.

If you went to a game at the Barclays Center last year and experienced the lack of enthusiasm in the arena, you would know that the level of excitement that surrounds the Knicks and the Nets are worlds apart.

colinskik
08-02-2013, 12:10 PM
No No it pretty laughable. This isn't a popularity contest as much you wish it was. It's about winning and neither the Knicks nor Nets can take claim to the Yankees or Lakers as that team in NY.

BK just got to NY so in terms of popularity of coarse the team who's been there for 30+ years will be more popular. It's idiotic to argue otherwise. BK is leaving their mark on the city though and only time will tell who the Yankees/Lakers are of NY.

No, you're pretty laughable.

Have you spent anytime in NYC and experienced the Knicks / Nets fanbases? I don't know where you're from, so I'm seriously asking.

For better or worse, this IS a popularity contest. When the Knicks were absolutely terrible in the early 2000s and the Nets were contending for the title in what is essentially a suburb of NYC in East Rutherford, the Knicks still garnered more attention.

Listen, I live very close to the Barclays Center and try to support the team even though I'm a Knicks fan, but it just doesn't create the same excitement. The arena is practically asleep, dead quiet, during games, while the Garden is so energetic you can feel the excitement in the air. Plus, during the playoffs this past year, you wouldn't have even known the Nets were playing based on what you saw in the streets and in bars and such.

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 12:19 PM
With all of this 'on paper' talk, the Nets were 5 games behind NY to finish the season (ON THE COURT) last year, and became significantly better this off-season.

The popularity contest nonsense is just that. The Nets will never be as popular.

xxplayerxx23
08-02-2013, 12:22 PM
Get melo a second pure scorer with the defensive anchor in Tyson and defense all around and they compete simple as that. Some net fans need to chill out.. Yes you are better on paper but paper doesn't win ****.. It wouldn't surprise me the nets finishing 2nd to. 5th in the easy,. Top 5 in east are really strong. Also cavs>pistons and wizards>pistons for the guy that had pistons 5th

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 12:28 PM
jesus christ would you guys stop hating on the pistons.

This place is so ****ing annoying.

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 01:17 PM
Pistons are gonna be a problem. They are stacked up front. Drummomd is the next Dwight

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 01:26 PM
^how is this allowed to continue?

I'm not the one who started talking about the Pistons. If you see my comments, look the other way tough-guy.

You have a personal problem with me? Send me a PM and we can discuss it like men, I don't need some little punk telling me how it is. Your opinion /= fact, save it for someone who cares.

Not once have I even began to suggest that we are better than NYK, so I have no idea what your problem is.

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 01:30 PM
Those expectations werent set by me. Go find me a quote where i claimed the Nets as champs after the Johnson trade and ill paypal you $200

I participate in the forums when my team is interesting to discuss or when happenings in the NBA are interesting to me.

My point about you is merely an observation. Not towards Knicks fans in general. I cant remember you ever providing anything of substance to a discussion unless you are riding some other poster's post, rewording then reposting it. Its your specialty.

As far as the Nets i think they along IND could challenge MIA. I think the Knicks are a first round exit this year

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 01:45 PM
It's hard to tell what's actually happening in NYC from down there in Camden, so allow me to fill you in. No team, regardless of where it is, will ever come into a city with an already established team and become the city's favorite team. Plus, in this case the Nets were essentially already a New York team when they were in Jersey and we all remember the type of following they had even when they were in the finals.

If you went to a game at the Barclays Center last year and experienced the lack of enthusiasm in the arena, you would know that the level of excitement that surrounds the Knicks and the Nets are worlds apart.

Oh so i guess because i live here i never get out nor know about the city when most my family live in NY? Cool.

We were selling out Barclays last year with a boring team that like you said never drew enthusiasm from crowds and now we have damn near an all star starting lineup with an exciting bench and a coach promising a fun brand of basketball. Season tickets are all sold out. I am seeing more Nets gear than ever in NY. I would be surprised if the atmosphere is anywhere like last year THIS year.

Ill take that and a ECF or better team over a first round exit most popular team in NY

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 01:47 PM
^how is this allowed to continue?

I'm not the one who started talking about the Pistons. If you see my comments, look the other way tough-guy.

You have a personal problem with me? Send me a PM and we can discuss it like men, I don't need some little punk telling me how it is. Your opinion /= fact, save it for someone who cares.

Not once have I even began to suggest that we are better than NYK, so I have no idea what your problem is.

Hey man, it's PSD. Don't take what anyone on here says seriously, or you'll go nuts. Just laugh it off or ignore them. Don't get mad over it, it's not worth it.

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 01:49 PM
With all of this 'on paper' talk, the Nets were 5 games behind NY to finish the season (ON THE COURT) last year, and became significantly better this off-season.

The popularity contest nonsense is just that. The Nets will never be as popular.

Never is a long time. This generation and maybe next generation will still be mostly Knicks fans but there is no telling what things will be like 10-20 years from now when the little kids loving JayZ and the Nets now are grown up.

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Oh so i guess because i live here i never get out nor know about the city when most my family live in NY? Cool.

We were selling out Barclays last year with a boring team that like you said never drew enthusiasm from crowds and now we have damn near an all star starting lineup with an exciting bench and a coach promising a fun brand of basketball. Season tickets are all sold out. I am seeing more Nets gear than ever in NY. I would be surprised if the atmosphere is anywhere like last year THIS year.

Ill take that and a ECF or better team over a first round exit most popular team in NY

Well, they are a BROOKLYN team lol. And the colors are pretty popular, easy to match with.

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 01:49 PM
will do... sorry i lost my cool.

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 01:52 PM
^how is this allowed to continue?

I'm not the one who started talking about the Pistons. If you see my comments, look the other way tough-guy.

You have a personal problem with me? Send me a PM and we can discuss it like men, I don't need some little punk telling me how it is. Your opinion /= fact, save it for someone who cares.

Not once have I even began to suggest that we are better than NYK, so I have no idea what your problem is.

The Pistons will be in the playoffs and i picked them as the 5th seed in bold pick to the surprise of my friends. I think their front court is as good as any in the NBA and even though i am no Jennings fan i think he will be more motivated and play really well. That front court tho... Andre Drummond... jesus...

Chill_Will_24
08-02-2013, 01:53 PM
Well, they are a BROOKLYN team lol. And the colors are pretty popular, easy to match with.

Touche bro.. touche

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 01:56 PM
Touche bro.. touche

Haha, yeah, I have seen some dope BK snapbacks, was tempted to buy, but was like better not. Lol

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Those BK jerseys and caps are all pretty sick IMO.

Big fan.

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 01:58 PM
will do... sorry i lost my cool.

It's cool bro. The Pistons have a bright future, you should be excited. I don't know how I feel about Jennings, cause I really liked Knight, but they are definitely a playoff team this year, if no injuries occur to their players.

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 02:00 PM
No one is crazy about Jennings, but Detroit fans recognize that he's a much better talent than Knight, and it didn't cost us an arm and a leg.

Thank you for the kind words, we're excited to finally have a watchable product.

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 02:03 PM
No one is crazy about Jennings, but Detroit fans recognize that he's a much better talent than Knight, and it didn't cost us an arm and a leg.

Thank you for the kind words, we're excited to finally have a watchable product.

No problem. And don't be so harsh on your team lol, you guys won a title in '04, less than 10 years ago. Try being a Knicks fan haha.

naps
08-02-2013, 02:13 PM
SAS : Heard from one of my trusted sources that Melo is interested in South Beach and will strongly consider joining his drafts mates when he opts out IF Riley can orchestrate the necessary accommodations. Trusted source for 15 years.

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 02:44 PM
SAS : Heard from one of my trusted sources that Melo is interested in South Beach and will strongly consider joining his drafts mates when he opts out IF Riley can orchestrate the necessary accommodations. Trusted source for 15 years.

Lol

KnickaBocka.44
08-02-2013, 02:45 PM
SAS : Heard from one of my trusted sources that Melo is interested in South Beach and will strongly consider joining his drafts mates when he opts out IF Riley can orchestrate the necessary accommodations. Trusted source for 15 years.

sauce?

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 02:45 PM
sauce?

Pretty sure he is joking. Haha

KnickaBocka.44
08-02-2013, 02:48 PM
Pretty sure he is joking. Haha

You can never tell when SAS is involved haha

NYKnickFanatic
08-02-2013, 02:51 PM
You can never tell when SAS is involved haha

That's true lol

DoMeFavors
08-02-2013, 02:52 PM
With how good the top of the East is, Melo would be better suited for the West. He was always much better in Western Conference basketball rather than Eastern conference.

Yankeefan213
08-02-2013, 03:14 PM
With how good the top of the East is, Melo would be better suited for the West. He was always much better in Western Conference basketball rather than Eastern conference.

He had his best season last season in the east so not really sure what you're talkin about

KnickaBocka.44
08-02-2013, 03:17 PM
With how good the top of the East is, Melo would be better suited for the West. He was always much better in Western Conference basketball rather than Eastern conference.

It's like the resurrection :faint:

DoMeFavors
08-02-2013, 03:20 PM
He had his best season last season in the east so not really sure what you're talkin about

To start the year sure, but the style of the West and his opponents in the West make his job easier. Since joining the East his win totals are down and his playoff wins are down. And people say the East is weak.

Yankeefan213
08-02-2013, 03:23 PM
To start the year sure, but the style of the West and his opponents in the West make his job easier. Since joining the East his win totals are down and his playoff wins are down. And people say the East is weak.

It was last year. The bucks finished under 500 and made the playoffs. If that's not weak then what is?

DoMeFavors
08-02-2013, 03:26 PM
It was last year. The bucks finished under 500 and made the playoffs. If that's not weak then what is?

Are people always going to use the 7th and 8th seeds in the East as an excuse why the East is bad? I believe the East is a lot more physical than the West. The west goes all out in the regular season to get higher seeds, while the East teams sort of take it easy. Then show up for the playoffs.

KnickaBocka.44
08-02-2013, 03:33 PM
Are people always going to use the 7th and 8th seeds in the East as an excuse why the East is bad? I believe the East is a lot more physical than the West. The west goes all out in the regular season to get higher seeds, while the East teams sort of take it easy. Then show up for the playoffs.

A lot of this is because the East is top heavy. The West is better from top to bottom and has the same quality at the top, but I agree with you that the East is more physical, with the exception of Memphis who might be the most physical team in the league.

MonroeFAN
08-02-2013, 04:42 PM
I've always thought the Eastern conference was more difficult to play in. It's a different brand of basketball, and I don't think many west coast teams can handle it.

waveycrockett
08-02-2013, 05:22 PM
Pistons are gonna be a problem. They are stacked up front. Drummomd is the next Dwight

I like Drummond alot but I dont know about the next Dwight. I was one of the few people really high on him in 2012 draft. I think his ceiling is somewhere between Tyson Chandler and Dwight. If the Piston let Billups take over the huddle and locker room and they find shooters to give the big guys space they are going to shock the hell out of a lot of people. Thats a BIG team but aside from Monroe and Billups they have alot of questionable characters.