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Rocktiros
07-15-2013, 09:49 PM
Is it crazy to suggest that Dwight Howard has a better shot of winning a championship in Houston than LA? Iíve heard Skip Bayless and others say that Dwight was uncomfortable with being the face of the post-Kobe Lakers. Itís a valid argument given D12ís history. But it doesnít mean Dwight is any less sincere in his desire to win a championship than any other player. Which brings me back to original question, why canít we accept that Dwightís chance of getting a ring are better with the Rockets?

Howardís coming to Houston is the result of a complex plan, years in the making. Morey and his crew have been designing a roster and game plan that maximize Howardís skills and has a chance to be among the leagueís best over the coming years. The Rockets didnít pursued Howard solely because heís just the latest star to come available as the Mavs and Hawks did. We pursued him because his skills and abilities FIT OUR PLAN. Just as Harden and Parsons fit the plan. He was just some star. He was the right star.

Morey and the Rockets have a strategy. A direction. For the last year+, the Lakers have just been flailing. Last year was about as clear an example as youíll ever get. LA acquired Howard because they could. Not because he fit with some overarching strategy (the hiring of DíAntoni is pretty strong proof), but because he was just another star who was available. Is it any wonder that Dwight would be more impressed with an organization that actually does its homework? The Rockets make personnel decisions using objective analytical techniques that make organizations like the Lakers look like dinosaurs. Relics who donít know anything else but to cash in on their past glories.

The Rockets have a plan. The Lakers only have a pitch. And itís just as fake and lacking in authenticity as everything else that comes out of Hollywood.

Welcome to H-town D12. GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!

Jtirado16
07-15-2013, 09:51 PM
He doesn't have a better chance of winning championships long term.. The Lakers with their cap space are gonna make a super team next year. The Rockets will win no championships

ArmLaker
07-15-2013, 09:52 PM
Is it crazy to suggest that Dwight Howard has a better shot of winning a championship in Houston than LA? Iíve heard Skip Bayless and others say that Dwight was uncomfortable with being the face of the post-Kobe Lakers. Itís a valid argument given D12ís history. But it doesnít mean Dwight is any less sincere in his desire to win a championship than any other player. Which brings me back to original question, why canít we accept that Dwightís chance of getting a ring are better with the Rockets?

Howardís coming to Houston is the result of a complex plan, years in the making. Morey and his crew have been designing a roster and game plan that maximize Howardís skills and has a chance to be among the leagueís best over the coming years. The Rockets didnít pursued Howard solely because heís just the latest star to come available as the Mavs and Hawks did. We pursued him because his skills and abilities FIT OUR PLAN. Just as Harden and Parsons fit the plan. He was just some star. He was the right star.

Morey and the Rockets have a strategy. A direction. For the last year+, the Lakers have just been flailing. Last year was about as clear an example as youíll ever get. LA acquired Howard because they could. Not because he fit with some overarching strategy (the hiring of DíAntoni is pretty strong proof), but because he was just another star who was available. Is it any wonder that Dwight would be more impressed with an organization that actually does its homework? The Rockets make personnel decisions using objective analytical techniques that make organizations like the Lakers look like dinosaurs. Relics who donít know anything else but to cash in on their past glories.

The Rockets have a plan. The Lakers only have a pitch. And itís just as fake and lacking in authenticity as everything else that comes out of Hollywood.

Welcome to H-town D12. GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!

Because injuries had nothing to do with our poor performance? I would hate to see what a poor performance in Houston standards would be to be honest.

Also you say that as if our gargantuan cap space for next year is irrelevant or that we're going to become the bottom dwellers of the NBA.

Come on man maybe he's a better fit in Houston but don't say LA didn't have a plan or won't rebound sooner than later.

AddiX
07-15-2013, 09:53 PM
Why the heck Does this site still let people start threads with 2 posts?

There I said it, now I'm as cool as this guy.

marvILLous
07-15-2013, 10:04 PM
:yawn:

Guppyfighter
07-15-2013, 10:04 PM
He doesn't have a better chance of winning championships long term.. The Lakers with their cap space are gonna make a super team next year. The Rockets will win no championships

Well, Buss isn't running the team, so I doubt it.

Verbal Christ
07-15-2013, 10:10 PM
antagonizing an already embarrassed franchise will get you nowhere on this site bro, especially when its so saturated with 'them'. I cant remember the last time a one year rental player was so despised and villified by the 'losing' fans, and how 'they' can shift the energy into trying to discredit and make bold faced asinine assumptions like "They Will Never....." whatever. Nobody from the Rocket organization has made any claims about running off any championships, and yet people still want to hate and suck on lemons. Get over yourselves.

DoubleDragon
07-15-2013, 10:22 PM
Why the heck Does this site still let people start threads with 2 posts?

There I said it, now I'm as cool as this guy.

I agree. There, so sue me...

Jtirado16
07-15-2013, 10:23 PM
antagonizing an already embarrassed franchise will get you nowhere on this site bro, especially when its so saturated with 'them'. I cant remember the last time a one year rental player was so despised and villified by the 'losing' fans, and how 'they' can shift the energy into trying to discredit and make bold faced asinine assumptions like "They Will Never....." whatever. Nobody from the Rocket organization has made any claims about running off any championships, and yet people still want to hate and suck on lemons. Get over yourselves.

Weird Dwight Howard said he sees himself at the end of this season holding the Championship trophy.. That's promising a ring this year. The Rockets have a lot of holes still.. No PF, a Backup point guard starting.. Harden is a stuf but we'll see if he has what it takes to win a championship. Howard is an iffy guy because you never know what you are gonna get from him. As of now he doesn't have the championship mentality to win yet. We'll see if he picks it up.

The Rockets aren't a garuentee to be a success. Which is what everyone keeps saying..

And Rockets fans saying the Lakers can't rebound & won't win are idiots as well. The Lakers are gonna be just fine

rockets-fan
07-15-2013, 10:27 PM
Lakers have and always will be a top franchise in sports period, the fans are mad now but next year when they have their super team they will forget this ever happened and move on.

He moved because the pressure in LA was too much and the Rockets fit his young, fun, but championship seeking personality. He will play better because he will enjoy it.

Just because HIS chances at a ship are better in Houston doesn't mean the Rockets will necessarily win one before the Lakers, they are after all the Yankees on the NBA.

Congrats to the Rockets getting the player they've dreamed of for over a year. Let's move on.

rockets-fan
07-15-2013, 10:28 PM
Weird Dwight Howard said he sees himself at the end of this season holding the Championship trophy.. That's promising a ring this year. The Rockets have a lot of holes still.. No PF, a Backup point guard starting.. Harden is a stuf but we'll see if he has what it takes to win a championship. Howard is an iffy guy because you never know what you are gonna get from him. As of now he doesn't have the championship mentality to win yet. We'll see if he picks it up.

The Rockets aren't a garuentee to be a success. Which is what everyone keeps saying..

And Rockets fans saying the Lakers can't rebound & won't win are idiots as well. The Lakers are gonna be just fine


Well I hope he sees himself winning, doesn't every player?

goku
07-15-2013, 10:29 PM
He doesn't have a better chance of winning championships long term.. The Lakers with their cap space are gonna make a super team next year. The Rockets will win no championships

its gonna be harder with Jim bust running things we will see though................... and enough with these D12 post we know he is in Houston now and wanted to be here and did not want to be a laker

ATX
07-15-2013, 10:31 PM
Weird Dwight Howard said he sees himself at the end of this season holding the Championship trophy.. That's promising a ring this year. The Rockets have a lot of holes still.. No PF, a Backup point guard starting.. Harden is a stuf but we'll see if he has what it takes to win a championship. Howard is an iffy guy because you never know what you are gonna get from him. As of now he doesn't have the championship mentality to win yet. We'll see if he picks it up.

The Rockets aren't a garuentee to be a success. Which is what everyone keeps saying..

And Rockets fans saying the Lakers can't rebound & won't win are idiots as well. The Lakers are gonna be just fine

Promising a ring? No it's not. It's hoping. "See's himself" is different than saying "Will be". Besides I never heard him once say they will win one next year, rather that they are building for a chance to contend for years.

Lakers just fine this year? If by 35-45 wins is fine, then well sure...At best they'll be a 7 or 8 seed...At best.

nickdymez
07-15-2013, 10:39 PM
Well, Buss isn't running the team, so I doubt it.

Buss is running the team...

goku
07-15-2013, 10:41 PM
Buss is running the team...

ol jimmy bust

sunsfan88
07-15-2013, 10:49 PM
Why are there so many damn Dwight threads?

And how is the OP making threads with just 2 posts? And how does he have only 2 posts since 2011?

Laker Legend42
07-15-2013, 11:03 PM
Is it crazy to suggest that Dwight Howard has a better shot of winning a championship in Houston than LA? Iíve heard Skip Bayless and others say that Dwight was uncomfortable with being the face of the post-Kobe Lakers. Itís a valid argument given D12ís history. But it doesnít mean Dwight is any less sincere in his desire to win a championship than any other player. Which brings me back to original question, why canít we accept that Dwightís chance of getting a ring are better with the Rockets?

Howardís coming to Houston is the result of a complex plan, years in the making. Morey and his crew have been designing a roster and game plan that maximize Howardís skills and has a chance to be among the leagueís best over the coming years. The Rockets didnít pursued Howard solely because heís just the latest star to come available as the Mavs and Hawks did. We pursued him because his skills and abilities FIT OUR PLAN. Just as Harden and Parsons fit the plan. He was just some star. He was the right star.

Morey and the Rockets have a strategy. A direction. For the last year+, the Lakers have just been flailing. Last year was about as clear an example as youíll ever get. LA acquired Howard because they could. Not because he fit with some overarching strategy (the hiring of DíAntoni is pretty strong proof), but because he was just another star who was available. Is it any wonder that Dwight would be more impressed with an organization that actually does its homework? The Rockets make personnel decisions using objective analytical techniques that make organizations like the Lakers look like dinosaurs. Relics who donít know anything else but to cash in on their past glories.

The Rockets have a plan. The Lakers only have a pitch. And itís just as fake and lacking in authenticity as everything else that comes out of Hollywood.

Welcome to H-town D12. GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!what makes Houston better than golden state ? I don't blame you but you say that because you're a rockets fan. Honestly you have harden and Howard and some other dudes. The between Houston and the last two super teams that came together (boston&miami) you had guys lining up to get there. So far not the case in Houston. Could it be no one wants to rock with Howard? Ijs... How often do you get to LA?

lakerboy
07-15-2013, 11:05 PM
Jerry Buss has not been running the team for over a decade now. Mitch Kupchak is.

The moment we lose Mitch and Jeanie, we'll have problems.


Rockets are better off for next season and have younger players. But we have so much cap space next year that if we get some really good free agents, we'll be better than Houston, albeit older and a shorter window

Bostonjorge
07-15-2013, 11:13 PM
Howard going to Houston was good for the NBA. Houston has a chance every year with Howard but need one more star to be favorits to win it all. As for the lakers it seem like only Mitch really tried to bring back Howard. Everyone only sent tweets and kobe didn't even really try. Next year with melo and lebron there will be a big difference. With that said cant wait to see rockets play the lakers at staples center.

Sly Guy
07-15-2013, 11:26 PM
when you add an all star center and already have one on the rise, that doesn't spell out perfectly designed plan. Even more so when you go to move him then listen to your players input when they tell you to say keep that redundancy.

The Rockets went out and nabbed the most talented man in free agency. It's not a master plan to simply stockpile talent.

Allphakenny1
07-15-2013, 11:39 PM
Lakers have and always will be a top franchise in sports period, the fans are mad now but next year when they have their super team they will forget this ever happened and move on.

He moved because the pressure in LA was too much and the Rockets fit his young, fun, but championship seeking personality. He will play better because he will enjoy it.

Just because HIS chances at a ship are better in Houston doesn't mean the Rockets will necessarily win one before the Lakers, they are after all the Yankees on the NBA.

Congrats to the Rockets getting the player they've dreamed of for over a year. Let's move on.

Pretty much nailed it on the head! Always thought of the Lakers as the Yankees of basketball. When they are down and out they will turn it around quick just because of who they are. Who will win a championship first? I have no idea, but it will sure be fun to watch.

kblo247
07-15-2013, 11:41 PM
It is what it is, but the striking things he said was he was already a winner for making it in the league and staying past the average career and reaching the WCF was a goal. He's better off in Houston if he truly believes that **** because Kobe and every laker legend would step in line to ***** slap him for considering being in the league or making the conference finals a success.m

smith&wesson
07-15-2013, 11:50 PM
Is it crazy to suggest that Dwight Howard has a better shot of winning a championship in Houston than LA? Iíve heard Skip Bayless and others say that Dwight was uncomfortable with being the face of the post-Kobe Lakers. Itís a valid argument given D12ís history. But it doesnít mean Dwight is any less sincere in his desire to win a championship than any other player. Which brings me back to original question, why canít we accept that Dwightís chance of getting a ring are better with the Rockets?

Howardís coming to Houston is the result of a complex plan, years in the making. Morey and his crew have been designing a roster and game plan that maximize Howardís skills and has a chance to be among the leagueís best over the coming years. The Rockets didnít pursued Howard solely because heís just the latest star to come available as the Mavs and Hawks did. We pursued him because his skills and abilities FIT OUR PLAN. Just as Harden and Parsons fit the plan. He was just some star. He was the right star.

Morey and the Rockets have a strategy. A direction. For the last year+, the Lakers have just been flailing. Last year was about as clear an example as youíll ever get. LA acquired Howard because they could. Not because he fit with some overarching strategy (the hiring of DíAntoni is pretty strong proof), but because he was just another star who was available. Is it any wonder that Dwight would be more impressed with an organization that actually does its homework? The Rockets make personnel decisions using objective analytical techniques that make organizations like the Lakers look like dinosaurs. Relics who donít know anything else but to cash in on their past glories.

The Rockets have a plan. The Lakers only have a pitch. And itís just as fake and lacking in authenticity as everything else that comes out of Hollywood.

Welcome to H-town D12. GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!

I say wait and see what the results are ... Also who's to say his best chances weren't with golden state.

Jarvo
07-15-2013, 11:59 PM
He is but can we stop talking about him and The Lakers Bah Gawd

lpdunks8
07-16-2013, 12:11 AM
Is it crazy to suggest that Dwight Howard has a better shot of winning a championship in Houston than LA? I’ve heard Skip Bayless and others say that Dwight was uncomfortable with being the face of the post-Kobe Lakers. It’s a valid argument given D12’s history. But it doesn’t mean Dwight is any less sincere in his desire to win a championship than any other player. Which brings me back to original question, why can’t we accept that Dwight’s chance of getting a ring are better with the Rockets?

Howard’s coming to Houston is the result of a complex plan, years in the making. Morey and his crew have been designing a roster and game plan that maximize Howard’s skills and has a chance to be among the league’s best over the coming years. The Rockets didn’t pursued Howard solely because he’s just the latest star to come available as the Mavs and Hawks did. We pursued him because his skills and abilities FIT OUR PLAN. Just as Harden and Parsons fit the plan. He was just some star. He was the right star.

Morey and the Rockets have a strategy. A direction. For the last year+, the Lakers have just been flailing. Last year was about as clear an example as you’ll ever get. LA acquired Howard because they could. Not because he fit with some overarching strategy (the hiring of D’Antoni is pretty strong proof), but because he was just another star who was available. Is it any wonder that Dwight would be more impressed with an organization that actually does its homework? The Rockets make personnel decisions using objective analytical techniques that make organizations like the Lakers look like dinosaurs. Relics who don’t know anything else but to cash in on their past glories. The Rockets have a plan. The Lakers only have a pitch. And it’s just as fake and lacking in authenticity as everything else that comes out of Hollywood.

Welcome to H-town D12. GO ROCKETS!!!!!!!

LOL. You're so on top of it because the T-Rexs and Pterodactyls haven't won for a long time. 2010 was eons ago.

One direct point about your comment regarding analytical techniques. Kupchak traded for Pau Gasol while he was in his prime ('08....led to 3 finals apps and 2 titles) while Morey traded for him when he was past his prime ('11; in the Chris Paul 3 way trade). Saying Morey's tactics are way better than Kupchak's is laughable.

LA_Raiders
07-16-2013, 12:12 AM
We will see when he leaves in 3 years.

Purple_n_Gold
07-16-2013, 01:11 AM
Lakers have and always will be a top franchise in sports period, the fans are mad now but next year when they have their super team they will forget this ever happened and move on.

He moved because the pressure in LA was too much and the Rockets fit his young, fun, but championship seeking personality. He will play better because he will enjoy it.

Just because HIS chances at a ship are better in Houston doesn't mean the Rockets will necessarily win one before the Lakers, they are after all the Yankees on the NBA.

Congrats to the Rockets getting the player they've dreamed of for over a year. Let's move on.
Very well said and said without trying to bait or antagonize. A classy fan is appreciated even if from a rival team. I do not believe that Howard was a good fit for the Lakers franchise even though I agree they did the right thing in trying to keep him even if just for an asset. For some of you Houston fans who have popped out of the everywhere calling out Laker fans for doing the same **** you are doing you should take a page from this guy. You would be better served to worry about how your team will do in the season not on paper. Leave us "embarrassed" fans alone. By the way the guy who wrote that comment I seriously need what ever you do sounds like a good trip.

Purple_n_Gold
07-16-2013, 01:19 AM
Promising a ring? No it's not. It's hoping. "See's himself" is different than saying "Will be". Besides I never heard him once say they will win one next year, rather that they are building for a chance to contend for years.

Lakers just fine this year? If by 35-45 wins is fine, then well sure...At best they'll be a 7 or 8 seed...At best.
So what's the difference between a 7 or 8 seed being ousted or being a 5 or 6 seed being ousted? Oh yeah the 7 or 8 seed gets a higher draft pick. You should really just worry about your franchise being fine ours shouldn't concern you. I would say that the Lakers track record says we will be fine. Hating doesn't pay any salary so you should get off the clock.

RiceOnTheRun
07-16-2013, 01:39 AM
antagonizing an already embarrassed franchise will get you nowhere on this site bro, especially when its so saturated with 'them'. I cant remember the last time a one year rental player was so despised and villified by the 'losing' fans, and how 'they' can shift the energy into trying to discredit and make bold faced asinine assumptions like "They Will Never....." whatever. Nobody from the Rocket organization has made any claims about running off any championships, and yet people still want to hate and suck on lemons. Get over yourselves.

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Howard going to Houston was good for the NBA. Houston has a chance every year with Howard but need one more star to be favorits to win it all. As for the lakers it seem like only Mitch really tried to bring back Howard. Everyone only sent tweets and kobe didn't even really try. Next year with melo and lebron there will be a big difference. With that said cant wait to see rockets play the lakers at staples center.

Lakers fans really need to shut the **** up with that whole "we're getting Melo and Lebron" thing next year. You guys haven't signed a top 10 free agent since Shaq 17 years ago. Yeah, the Lakers have cap space next year but when your entire argument is that everyone would love to come to the Lakers, you're no better than any Houston fans promising a championship. Next year, we'll see how they do in free agency. If they make it big, congrats, but until then, stop using that as an excuse whenever people bring up the Lakers.

(I know it's not all Laker fans, there are intelligent ones that I respect. But those who can't make any argument other than the one above need some mental help.)

Teeboy1487
07-16-2013, 01:40 AM
He probably is. For me, I never cared for Dwight. My problem is the Lakers did not get anything for him. That was the most frustrating part. Nevertheless, Dwight is meaningless to me now. I could care less if he wins or not. My only concern is the Lakers. How can I get mad at something he had every right to do? Why should I care?

ThunderousDemon
07-16-2013, 01:57 AM
The Lakers are getting Lebron and Melo next year.

Laker Legend42
07-16-2013, 06:35 AM
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Lakers fans really need to shut the **** up with that whole "we're getting Melo and Lebron" thing next year. You guys haven't signed a top 10 free agent since Shaq 17 years ago. Yeah, the Lakers have cap space next year but when your entire argument is that everyone would love to come to the Lakers, you're no better than any Houston fans promising a championship. Next year, we'll see how they do in free agency. If they make it big, congrats, but until then, stop using that as an excuse whenever people bring up the Lakers.

(I know it's not all Laker fans, there are intelligent ones that I respect. But those who can't make any argument other than the one above need some mental help.)lmao.....relax a little. No lakers fan really thinks the lakers will get melo and bron bron. I personally don't think neither are coming here. The lakers will rebound when these smaller teams can't afford to try and stay on top. I wouldn't mind seeing lebron here. Not sure about melo. I still think lebron goes home.

Two-3
07-16-2013, 06:54 AM
He would have been better off with the warriors imo.

SenileStern
07-16-2013, 09:18 AM
He would have been better off with the warriors imo.

Of course. It's a close call who's better between Rockets and GSW right now, while the Warriors with Dwight would have been clearly better than Houston. Dwight lifts Houston to the 3-6 seed spot, while he would have lifted the Warriors to the 1-4 spot.

I don't know how many people realize how slim his championship chances are. Next season the Rockets have a chance between 5% and 10% to win the championship according to odds, that's still close to zero.

ATX
07-16-2013, 09:29 AM
So what's the difference between a 7 or 8 seed being ousted or being a 5 or 6 seed being ousted? Oh yeah the 7 or 8 seed gets a higher draft pick. You should really just worry about your franchise being fine ours shouldn't concern you. I would say that the Lakers track record says we will be fine. Hating doesn't pay any salary so you should get off the clock.

I wasn't talking to you or any Laker fan for that matter. I was pointing out to someone from Indiana who alluded the Lakers will be fine next season that the Lakers will be a 7 or 8 seed at best and could very easily miss the playoffs. It's YOUR fanbase that is on the TANK parade here. I was simply stating the obvious. Relax

blahblahyoutoo
07-16-2013, 09:44 AM
yup, the vision for the plan all began with overpaying Lin for 3 years.

Rocktiros
07-16-2013, 06:28 PM
Throwing money around isn't a plan, Lakers fans. The Hawks had cap space. So did Dallas. Hell, the Wizards could have thrown huge bucks a Dwight with a few cap moves. If it was just about how much money a player can make on a max deal, then why did Howard leave $30M on the table to come to Houston? Why did Lebron to leave Cleveland?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous the thought of both Lebron and Carmelo coming to LA is? If the Lakers were smart, they'd tank to get Wiggins and re-build. That's a plan. But LA doesn't have the stomach for that (nor to listen to reality apparently). So they'll be mediocre for a while.

Guppyfighter
07-16-2013, 06:41 PM
Of course. It's a close call who's better between Rockets and GSW right now, while the Warriors with Dwight would have been clearly better than Houston. Dwight lifts Houston to the 3-6 seed spot, while he would have lifted the Warriors to the 1-4 spot.

I don't know how many people realize how slim his championship chances are. Next season the Rockets have a chance between 5% and 10% to win the championship according to odds, that's still close to zero.

Ten percent is actually fairly high.

BigCityofDreams
07-16-2013, 06:45 PM
Throwing money around isn't a plan, Lakers fans. The Hawks had cap space. So did Dallas. Hell, the Wizards could have thrown huge bucks a Dwight with a few cap moves. If it was just about how much money a player can make on a max deal, then why did Howard leave $30M on the table to come to Houston? Why did Lebron to leave Cleveland?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous the thought of both Lebron and Carmelo coming to LA is? If the Lakers were smart, they'd tank to get Wiggins and re-build. That's a plan. But LA doesn't have the stomach for that (nor to listen to reality apparently). So they'll be mediocre for a while.

No real Laker fan thinks they are getting Bron and Melo. Calm down

Their plan is to use the cap space over the next couple of seasons to rebuild the team and acquire more pieces. The Lakers themselves know they are rebuilding. Relax

fresh prince
07-16-2013, 09:08 PM
DWIGHT WAS SMART TO Get out of here and go to Houston. Its not a bold statement to say that. Its actually jsut common sense. He simply cant carry the load as THE guy on a championship team which is what we crave here in LA.

Dwight was aware of that and decided to go to a younger team with more upside where he will not have the reposniblity or added pressure of being a true lead dog.Its alll about doing what is best for yourself and Dwight clearly made that move. Props to him.

SportsFanatic10
07-16-2013, 09:11 PM
The Lakers are getting Lebron and Melo next year.

in their dreams lol.

and i agree howard is better off in houston. but not necessarily from a championship standpoint (although the immediate future is brighter) but just in general for him it's a better situation.

Aust
07-16-2013, 09:13 PM
I stopped reading after you mentioned Skip Bayless

nickdymez
07-16-2013, 09:22 PM
in their dreams lol.

and i agree howard is better off in houston. but not necessarily from a championship standpoint (although the immediate future is brighter) but just in general for him it's a better situation.

I cant wait till the heat are nobodies again like usual and the Lakers are back to winning championships. Maybe all these smug *** heat fans will disappear too..

SportsFanatic10
07-16-2013, 09:31 PM
I cant wait till the heat are nobodies again like usual and the Lakers are back to winning championships. Maybe all these smug *** heat fans will disappear too..

nope, heat for life! don't see how i was smug, you just seem to still be having a hard time adjusting to the lakers current situation i guess.

nickdymez
07-16-2013, 09:39 PM
nope, heat for life! don't see how i was smug, you just seem to still be having a hard time adjusting to the lakers current situation i guess.

No, the Lakers are in an awesome situation if you ask me. They still will compete this year and have the luxury of starting fresh and picking what players they want for their team next year from the pool of free agents. You seem like more of a laker fan than me. You seem like you expect the Lakers to win every year. I dont, i understand that teams rebuild. I watched the Lakers with Sedale thrette (sp), Terry Teagle, Elden campbell, nick van exel, etc stumble into the playoffs. Then i watched them pick up shaq a few years later and dominate. Im fine, but are you? Because when Lebron leaves, welcome back to obscurity....

SportsFanatic10
07-16-2013, 09:45 PM
No, the Lakers are in an awesome situation if you ask me. They still will compete this year and have the luxury of starting fresh and picking what players they want for their team next year from the pool of free agents. You seem like more of a laker fan than me. You seem like you expect the Lakers to win every year. I dont, i understand that teams rebuild. I watched the Lakers with Sedale thrette (sp), Terry Teagle, Elden campbell, nick van exel, etc stumble into the playoffs. Then i watched them pick up shaq a few years later and dominate. Im fine, but are you? Because when Lebron leaves, welcome back to obscurity....

so when the heat rebuild their "nobodies like usual", but when the lakers are rebuilding it's "while i understand that teams rebuild and i'm fine with it" lol. whatever dude. i watch my heat no matter what so i don't really care, just enjoying the ride right now. highly doubt lebron leaves though. i do find it funny how the lakers have to rebuild all of a sudden after just last year having a supposed super team though.

steveweve
07-16-2013, 09:49 PM
DWIGHT WAS SMART TO Get out of here and go to Houston. Its not a bold statement to say that. Its actually jsut common sense. He simply cant carry the load as THE guy on a championship team which is what we crave here in LA.

Dwight was aware of that and decided to go to a younger team with more upside where he will not have the reposniblity or added pressure of being a true lead dog.Its alll about doing what is best for yourself and Dwight clearly made that move. Props to him.

Good post, I don't believe he left LA because he couldn't "carry the load" or be the "true lead dog". Truth is he would never have the opportunity to with Kobe still hanging around.. He knows Gasol/Kobe/Nash are all old, he also knows that his coach doesn't even know how to utilize his talents. Dwight asked for Phil Jackson to be hired, the Lakers went against his opinion and got Dumbtoni.

So... You have your 3 best players declining big time, your coach doesn't understand how to utilize your talents. Your owner goes against your opinions, you have Kobe still trying to be the man.

Quite honestly nothing was really going right for Howard, there was a bunch of factors that caused his decision, not just "he cant carry the load". And if he wants to start over and play alongside Harden and chase a championship, who the hell cares? He is a FREE agent, let him do what he wants...

ldawg
07-16-2013, 11:33 PM
Howard was free to do what ever he wants he was a free agent. Howard was not a good fit for the Lakers and Lakers were not a good fit for Howard. Not only did Howard not feel La but many not all but many did not feel Howard as well. Fans were upset that Lakers posted stay and felt Howard was not worth it. IMO its a win win situation for both parties. Howard dont want that added pressure that comes along with playing for a demanded crowd and a winning franchise. I think Howard realize he was not up for that task and he was not have been happy. Everyone is not cut out for that. At the same time Lakers had to realize Howard was not that player who can shoulder those expectations and take the critics without being torn apart. In less than a year Howard was rattled, How could he do it for 5 years? Howard said it himself he is a successful player and dont need rings so the motivation is there. This may explain why he is the same player 9 years in and still cant hit a free throw. He is right and wrong at the same time. The NBA have some players that play just for Money, some for fun, some for fame then you have some that settle for nothing less than than being the best. Lakers were going to build around Howard but at the time Nash is old, Kobe is Hurt, him and Pau had chemistry, dont like the coach style, did not feel kobe style and not sure if he can trust Jim Buss. When Howard weight the positives and negatives of each team at present Houston was the best choice for many reasons. Not sure if Houston will win any rings with Howard but they have a nice start with less pressure and a young fun group.

ldawg
07-17-2013, 08:07 AM
Big guys are hard to find and Howard impact the game with his athletic ability on both ends. He will make Houston a very good team but they are going as far as Harden takes them. Howard is a great second option when his head is on right.

JordansBulls
07-19-2013, 03:44 PM
Well the team is around his age, so yes it is better for him.