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B.JenningsMVP
07-11-2013, 06:27 PM
https://twitter.com/PeterVecsey1/status/355451772078268417

Peter Vecsey
‏@PeterVecsey1
This just in: Nets have signed. Kirilenko for mini mid-level, 3.1M per
3:21 PM - 11 Jul 13

akesh99
07-11-2013, 06:28 PM
Just saw this also.... wow I dont know what to say

lamzoka
07-11-2013, 06:28 PM
good for them, if true

tredigs
07-11-2013, 06:28 PM
Very nice. How, exactly, are they still able to sign players? I understand it must be an MLE or something but jesus.

Apparently they've "reached an agreement, but not signed yet" - per the same source.

J4KOP99
07-11-2013, 06:28 PM
Where do they find this $$?

b_russ
07-11-2013, 06:30 PM
Wow, he must have wanted out of Minnesota pretty bad. He's going to make less in 3 years than he would have in 1.

Robbw241
07-11-2013, 06:30 PM
Prokhorov makin it rain

Aust
07-11-2013, 06:31 PM
They still had that? Geeze. That Russian has the dough, buying a 'ship! :p

tredigs
07-11-2013, 06:31 PM
Wow, he must have wanted out of Minnesota pretty bad. He's going to make less in 3 years than he would have in 1.

Very strange.

ManRam
07-11-2013, 06:31 PM
I mean, this is the first real FA they've signed, right? It's just their mini-MLE. Everything else has been added via trade.

Chacarron
07-11-2013, 06:32 PM
Wow, great signing. The Nets are looking better every day.

D-Leethal
07-11-2013, 06:32 PM
Huge pickup for them, they needed to spark their defense. The Russian connection was enough to take a massive paycut. Missed out on Korver and got themselves a better player.

D-Leethal
07-11-2013, 06:33 PM
Wow, he must have wanted out of Minnesota pretty bad. He's going to make less in 3 years than he would have in 1.

Proky has gotta have some crazy transaction going down in Russia as we speak.

KnokOut
07-11-2013, 06:34 PM
Wow, he must have wanted out of Minnesota pretty bad. He's going to make less in 3 years than he would have in 1.

Don't think this was the case at all. You don't know how much your going to get on the open market. He wanted to go and get a long term deal, did not work out for him.

More-Than-Most
07-11-2013, 06:35 PM
Great signing. The best move of the post season for them in my opinion.

J4KOP99
07-11-2013, 06:37 PM
The Nets have to go out there and prove it but they match up very well with Miami. They are going to be a very strong team if everyone meshes.

Cracka2HI!
07-11-2013, 06:37 PM
WOW! What a dumbass Kirilinko is!! I'm sure he wasn't thrilled to be in Minny but quite frankly they'd have nice squad if he were still there. I'm sure he didn't think he would take THIS kind of paycut.

GREAT signing for the Nets. Maybe the best of the off-season.

Heediot
07-11-2013, 06:40 PM
damn, there must be some gansgta moves we don't know about. they have a nice 2nd unit now.

Greet
07-11-2013, 06:41 PM
WOW! What a dumbass Kirilinko is!! I'm sure he wasn't thrilled to be in Minny but quite frankly they'd have nice squad if he were still there. I'm sure he didn't think he would take THIS kind of paycut.

GREAT signing for the Nets. Maybe the best of the off-season.

I'm sure in the long-run this is the best move for him

AlexTmz2
07-11-2013, 06:41 PM
good sign by the nets. really wanted our f/o to try and sign him. oh well

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 06:42 PM
I mean, this is the first real FA they've signed, right? It's just their mini-MLE. Everything else has been added via trade.

They signed Blatche and Livingston. Then there's Mason Plumlee.

abe_froman
07-11-2013, 06:42 PM
we all knew this was going to happen at some point.nets have a great team on paper,i could see hem challenging the heat next year

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 06:42 PM
Great signing. The best move of the post season for them in my opinion.

I think re-signing Blatche was better and more important.

Aust
07-11-2013, 06:42 PM
I hope DMF is ok. Upon hearing the news I hope he didn't have a heart attack.

abe_froman
07-11-2013, 06:44 PM
WOW! What a dumbass Kirilinko is!! I'm sure he wasn't thrilled to be in Minny but quite frankly they'd have nice squad if he were still there. I'm sure he didn't think he would take THIS kind of paycut.

GREAT signing for the Nets. Maybe the best of the off-season.
i doubt he's taking much of a pay cut,he's ring chasing and there's probably some under the table set up for him in russia

ZamboniCub
07-11-2013, 06:47 PM
I called it. when he opt'ed out.

kblo247
07-11-2013, 06:48 PM
Money in the back alley. It was about time as I expected him to become a net last year. He can add a very intriguing dynamic to the team if Joe was willing to come off the bench

TRF929
07-11-2013, 06:48 PM
i doubt he's taking much of a pay cut,he's ring chasing and there's probably some under the table set up for him in russia

Under the table money is what I'm leaning on, but I still don't see them coming outta the East

Jenceman
07-11-2013, 06:49 PM
Damn, that Nets team may...may..be able to challenge the Heat.

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 06:49 PM
i doubt he's taking much of a pay cut,he's ring chasing and there's probably some under the table set up for him in russia

He was seeking 10 million per year and when asked about his chances of coming to Brooklyn he previously stated that it's not likely due to the little money they can offer him.

If he were ring chasing he'd go to Miami.

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 06:49 PM
Damn, that Nets team may...may..be able to challenge the Heat.

They WILL be able to challenge them. Beat them in a 7 game series? Nah.

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 06:50 PM
Under the table money is what I'm leaning on, but I still don't see them coming outta the East

That's why games are played on the court.

FOBolous
07-11-2013, 06:51 PM
wow the russian billionaire that owns the Nets ain't playing. this dude's making it rain left and right

Cracka2HI!
07-11-2013, 06:53 PM
i doubt he's taking much of a pay cut,he's ring chasing and there's probably some under the table set up for him in russia

You could very well be right. They can probably track that kind thing in America but outside the country who knows? The protection he's getting from the Russian mafia for this deal is probably worth what he left on the table in Minny.

AI
07-11-2013, 06:54 PM
He has to be making somethng under the table. Opt out of $10M to make $3M? Way too fishy.

abe_froman
07-11-2013, 06:55 PM
wow the russian billionaire that owns the Nets ain't playing. this dude's making it rain left and right
their tax on all this is going to be like 75m lol

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 06:55 PM
There is now no debate, the nets are better than the knicks

Lake_Show2416
07-11-2013, 06:56 PM
Nets coming out the East

Cal827
07-11-2013, 06:58 PM
There is now no debate, the nets are better than the knicks

This x 1000. Assuming no horrible health Issues, two pretty much guaranteed division champions are the Heat and the nets.

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 06:59 PM
Nets coming out the East

Nah.


There is now no debate, the nets are better than the knicks

No Knicks fan will admit this.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 06:59 PM
Nets coming out the East

:laugh2:

I would put chicago(rose healthy) and indiana ahead of nets.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 06:59 PM
Nah.



No Knicks fan will admit this.
Agreed, but they know it.

Knicks added bargnani, nets added KG, paul pierce and ak 47.

cssdmark
07-11-2013, 07:00 PM
There is now no debate, the nets are better than the knicks

It appears they are now better than the Heat and deeper.

Heediot
07-11-2013, 07:01 PM
lopez is gonna beast more on offense imo. i say nets coming out east. heat are going to have a hard time defending lopez down low, kg always eats bosh for lunch. deron williams is going to have a field day against chalmers. the a-k and kg combo will slow down lbj better than the spurs attempted to.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 07:02 PM
It appears they are now better than the Heat and deeper.

I would disagree. If the nets can be healthy, it would be a good matchup, but anyone that doesn't give the edge to lebron is a fool

NYKnickFanatic
07-11-2013, 07:02 PM
Wow that's a freaking nice pick up. Nets will be scary next year, they are doing an amazing job

PV2nice
07-11-2013, 07:05 PM
Agreed, but they know it.

Knicks added bargnani, nets added KG, paul pierce and ak 47.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2000.html

Just saying!

Crackadalic
07-11-2013, 07:08 PM
2nd best team in the east now. They actually have the talent to beat the heat in 7 games.
D-will/Mario
JJ/Wade
Pierce/James
Kg/Haslem
Lopez/Bosh

Livingston/Cole
?/Allen
AK47/Miller
Evans/Battier
Blatche/Birdman

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-11-2013, 07:10 PM
2nd best team in the east now. They actually have the talent to beat the heat in 7 games.
D-will/Mario
JJ/Wade
Pierce/James
Kg/Haslem
Lopez/Bosh

Livingston/Cole
?/Allen
AK47/Miller
Evans/Battier
Blatche/Birdman
Terry would more than likely be the backup 2

Chronz
07-11-2013, 07:11 PM
This actually moves the needle, lookin like legit contenders now..... really needed that 3rd forward for the SF/PF rotation for the older guys.

NYKnickFanatic
07-11-2013, 07:11 PM
Nah.



No Knicks fan will admit this.

Ill admit it. On paper they are better, but we play the games for a reason.

torocan
07-11-2013, 07:13 PM
Ok, color me officially impressed. Adding AK47 for the mid level is one heck of a pick up.

No idea if it will actually work on the court, but Prokhorov isn't joking around. He's pulling out all the stops to field a real contender.

There's going to be some interesting match ups this year.

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 07:14 PM
:laugh2:

I would put chicago(rose healthy) and indiana ahead of nets.

I will put a healthy Chicago team ahead of the Nets, ONLY if the Nets take a while to get their team chemistry going. Only reason I put Chicago over BK is due to team chemistry. If BK gets some chemistry goin early I say easily 2nd best team.

Last year I thought the Nets were just as good as the Pacers, based on team record and head to head.

krisxsong
07-11-2013, 07:15 PM
Ill admit it. On paper they are better, but we play the games for a reason.

True, but you're acting like the Knicks have good chemistry. It's usually ISO Melo ISO JR.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 07:15 PM
I will put a healthy Chicago team ahead of the Nets, ONLY if the Nets take a while to get their team chemistry going. Only reason I put Chicago over BK is due to team chemistry. If BK gets some chemistry goin early I say easily 2nd best team.

Last year I thought the Nets were just as good as the Pacers, based on team record and head to head.

That's an extremely homer comment. The pacers would have destroyed the nets in a playoff series.

jersey89
07-11-2013, 07:16 PM
I will put a healthy Chicago team ahead of the Nets, ONLY if the Nets take a while to get their team chemistry going. Only reason I put Chicago over BK is due to team chemistry. If BK gets some chemistry goin early I say easily 2nd best team.

Last year I thought the Nets were just as good as the Pacers, based on team record and head to head.

As a nets fan I really like what they're doing. Putting a bunch of hungry vets together for one more shot at a deep postseason run. Hopefully the injury bug doesn't bite too hard.

kdspurman
07-11-2013, 07:17 PM
:mad: Still mad the Wolves wouldn't trade him to us... But Great pickup for the Nets... A steal (though he's probably getting more $ under the table lol)

AI
07-11-2013, 07:18 PM
This is a solid pickup. Nets vs Knicks last year was awesome, atmosphere was great.

This year it's going to be just insane. Should be fun. Good luck guys.

Captain Moroni
07-11-2013, 07:21 PM
im not calling the nets better. it is going to be the best rivalry in the nba.

Captain Moroni
07-11-2013, 07:23 PM
last year everyone was saying miami had no challengers in the east. this year they very much do. gonna be fun.

MinnesotaFtw
07-11-2013, 07:24 PM
im not calling the nets better. it is going to be the best rivalry in the nba.
Not better than Heat and Pacers.

gotoHcarolina52
07-11-2013, 07:24 PM
Excellent addition. The Nets are going to be an absolute bear to deal with next season.

29$JerZ
07-11-2013, 07:26 PM
Nice signing
Surprised he took such a pay cut though.

shep33
07-11-2013, 07:26 PM
If healthy, this team has the tools to take out Miami. Not saying they will, but if they click, it's possible.

melo
07-11-2013, 07:28 PM
Nice signing
Surprised he took such a pay cut though.

given him money under the table

D-Leethal
07-11-2013, 07:29 PM
True, but you're acting like the Knicks have good chemistry. It's usually ISO Melo ISO JR.

Our team played well around Melo until the playoffs when everyone went ice cold simultaneously. We were the 3rd most efficient offense all year. We had our moments where the iso's went out of control but there were also moments we were moving the ball around in Spurs-like fashion. The continuity will help us. I am not ready to hand over the division because you still gotta play the games, and there are still some question marks in my eyes, but I think this pickup is huge for you guys. I honestly think its a more important piece than Pierce.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 07:30 PM
Wow, he must have wanted out of Minnesota pretty bad. He's going to make less in 3 years than he would have in 1.

he thought he could get a 3 year deal in the $20-22 million range really. Market dried up on him.

Crackadalic
07-11-2013, 07:32 PM
Terry would more than likely be the backup 2

I forgot sheesh. You guys may be better then us now talent wise but will see on the court this season. So excited:cheers:

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 07:34 PM
I am honestly stunned they landed him. AK took a serious cash hit with this signing. The Nets are now legit east contenders, but they still need some depth up front due to age.

BKLYNpigeon
07-11-2013, 07:37 PM
Wow, he must have wanted out of Minnesota pretty bad. He's going to make less in 3 years than he would have in 1.

Pokhorov has a backdoor deal with AK47, he's going to shower him with cocaine and prostitutes in Russia.

Nycbball08
07-11-2013, 07:38 PM
Great pick up, let's get this rivalry started...Go Knicks!!!

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-11-2013, 07:38 PM
I am honestly stunned they landed him. AK took a serious cash hit with this signing. The Nets are now legit east contenders, but they still need some depth up front due to age.

I don't think Blatche, Evans, Plumlee, and Mirza is too terrible as rotational backups. Not to mention being able to play AK at the 4 occasionally. I'd like one more shooter and I'll be very happy.

Knick_Fever
07-11-2013, 07:38 PM
Surprised that he not only took a significant pay cut, but also willing to come off the bench. Nets will be a force, they're just as talented at every position, as they are deep. The East has suddenly equated the West in terms of balanced competition, the NBA is great again.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 07:41 PM
Surprised that he not only took a significant pay cut, but also willing to come off the bench. Nets will be a force, they're just as talented at every position, as they are deep. The East has suddenly equated the West in terms of balanced competition, the NBA is great again.

that gets said all the time, and ends up not being true at all.

Knick_Fever
07-11-2013, 07:46 PM
that gets said all the time, and ends up not being true at all.

Not that Ive noticed. Im used to seeing people write about how there's only a couple of teams that could contend in the east, now there's a balance of power.

29$JerZ
07-11-2013, 07:48 PM
They could still use a better backup PG and another 3pt shooter but that team is looking very well rounded now.
If they can get anything positive out of Terry they should have one of the better benches.

kdspurman
07-11-2013, 07:48 PM
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Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 07:49 PM
Not that Ive noticed. Im used to seeing people write about how there's only a couple of teams that could contend in the east, now there's a balance of power.

is there really? Miami is exponentially on it's own. Then what? A couple teams that would win around 50 games out west? And the strength of the conferences is always measured from top to bottom, of which the west has dominated for 30 years.

THE MTL
07-11-2013, 07:52 PM
I would not be surprised in the least bit if the knicks still won the division.

abe_froman
07-11-2013, 07:54 PM
Not that Ive noticed. Im used to seeing people write about how there's only a couple of teams that could contend in the east, now there's a balance of power.
how? there's a top 5 than crap,there are lotto teams in the west that would be playoff teams in the east still

Bishnoff
07-11-2013, 07:58 PM
Nets are stacked.

ohreally
07-11-2013, 08:04 PM
The Celtics trade isn't even completed yet. Vecsey seems to have thought all along hat there was something else riding there, so let's see if there is another surprise coming.

AK is supposed to be something of a a friend with Prokhorov, so while it does seem odd, if he wan't getting the deal he wanted anywhere else, why not?

Lake_Show2416
07-11-2013, 08:05 PM
Deron Williams
Joe Johnson
Pierce
KG
Brook Lopez

Jason Terry
AK-47
Reggie Evans
Blatche

With that star power, KG & Pierce's heart, depth of bigs & bench depth, I see the Nets as the team that comes out the East, Miami's biggest weakness is scoring big man & both the Nets starters KG & Lopez can do that well

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-11-2013, 08:10 PM
They could still use a better backup PG and another 3pt shooter but that team is looking very well rounded now.
If they can get anything positive out of Terry they should have one of the better benches.

Livingston should be a solid backup, Tyshawn may also get a few minutes here or there at the 1. Our 3 point shooting should be fairly decent, especially if Terry plays semi normally. I'd like to add just one more player, maybe Alan Anderson for the minimum.

ambisme56
07-11-2013, 08:11 PM
Deron Williams
Joe Johnson
Pierce
KG
Brook Lopez

Jason Terry
AK-47
Reggie Evans
Blatche

With that star power, KG & Pierce's heart, depth of bigs & bench depth, I see the Nets as the team that comes out the East, Miami's biggest weakness is scoring big man & both the Nets starters KG & Lopez can do that well

I agree Brooklyn will give Miami a tough matchup and do think Brooklyn can pull it off. Just an all around well balanced team. Also don't forget about Mason Plumlee...he brings some athleticism and youth to their front court that was much needed.

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-11-2013, 08:13 PM
I would not be surprised in the least bit if the knicks still won the division.

In all serious, did the Knicks really get better than last season? Personally, I don't think so. I know you'll just take this as me being "bias" but it'd be a pretty huge upset if the Nets DIDNT win the division.

PurpleJesus
07-11-2013, 08:25 PM
Kirilenko made a dumb decision, He was looking for his last big pay day, and it was right in front of him in the version of a $10 mill player option, which he declined because he was looking for some stability of a long term contract...he, and his agent did not realize that teams are not willing to commit long term for a player well into his 30's, who has major injury concerns.

I thought he would either get a 1 year deal worth 6-7 mill, or a two year at 10-11 mill. No way I thought he would go for as low as $3 mill.

AI
07-11-2013, 08:25 PM
In all serious, did the Knicks really get better than last season? Personally, I don't think so. I know you'll just take this as me being "bias" but it'd be a pretty huge upset if the Nets DIDNT win the division.

They certainly didn't get worse. It will be a fun race this year.

True Sports Fan
07-11-2013, 08:28 PM
355470171902717954

No shocker there.. I don't think any foul play, but it is suspicious at the very least.

howiend
07-11-2013, 08:36 PM
Why would prokhorov not give him or aks wife money on the side or wink wink hint there would be a "job" after he retires. If an owner has lots of money they can get players. A salary cap only accomplishes so much

Rockice_8
07-11-2013, 08:39 PM
Kirilenko made a dumb decision, He was looking for his last big pay day, and it was right in front of him in the version of a $10 mill player option, which he declined because he was looking for some stability of a long term contract...he, and his agent did not realize that teams are not willing to commit long term for a player well into his 30's, who has major injury concerns.

I thought he would either get a 1 year deal worth 6-7 mill, or a two year at 10-11 mill. No way I thought he would go for as low as $3 mill.

He doesn't need the money. His wife makes a ton of dough and he just made $10 mil last year. He's only got a few years left in his playing career and he wants to win.

The Russian connection made the decision easier.

And even if he did pay him off under the table good luck to the NBA tracing that back to Russia. We can't even get Snowden.

PurpleJesus
07-11-2013, 09:00 PM
He doesn't need the money. His wife makes a ton of dough and he just made $10 mil last year. He's only got a few years left in his playing career and he wants to win.

The Russian connection made the decision easier.

And even if he did pay him off under the table good luck to the NBA tracing that back to Russia. We can't even get Snowden.

Then how come he is quoted as saying he wants a long term contract for security?

nickdymez
07-11-2013, 09:02 PM
If you dont the nets are a top 3 team in the east then your a hater...

arkanian215
07-11-2013, 09:13 PM
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Mell413
07-11-2013, 09:22 PM
This is a good move for the Nets. I've been in agreement with their moves this off season

LongIslandIcedZ
07-11-2013, 09:23 PM
Like what the Nets are doing. Absolutely better than the Knicks on paper. Hopefully it plays out different on the court. I can see this nets team getting injured. Hopefully Kidd manages their minutes well.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 09:25 PM
That was probably before all the failed S&T's to other teams. He most definitely still wants it but if no one is offering you significantly more, why not Brooklyn?

Supposedly, Flip Saunders refused to trade him to the teams offering the most money (OKC and Spurs). What team with cap space would offer him $10 million a year? I don't think teams in that position would be offering that kind of money w/ the 2014 draft class coming up.

AK could have easily landed the mid level, AT LEAST, for 2-3 years had he waited.

I am not much into conspiracy's, but this deal should be investigated.

LeperMessiah
07-11-2013, 09:30 PM
AK and Mark had a serious discussion with lots of Vodka

ohreally
07-11-2013, 09:37 PM
AK could have easily landed the mid level, AT LEAST, for 2-3 years had he waited.

I am not much into conspiracy's, but this deal should be investigated.

Mid-level with a bubble tam at best. One year with a stacked team and Russian politics, and next year he can test the waters again. Investigation, even if it did happen, isn't going to find anything. Welcome to international basketball.

waveycrockett
07-11-2013, 09:38 PM
Damn. This is crazy we are officially stacked. Nothing more to say really. It's all up to J.Kidd now.

waveycrockett
07-11-2013, 09:39 PM
AK could have easily landed the mid level, AT LEAST, for 2-3 years had he waited.

I am not much into conspiracy's, but this deal should be investigated.
Someone is sad the Nets are now officially a contender hahaha

nickdymez
07-11-2013, 09:40 PM
I dont understand why everyone is so mad. The East is weak. He has a chance to WIN next season. He aint doing that with teams like minny. He signed for one year.. Great idea for AK...

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 09:40 PM
wow...

this team is scaring me now.

Lopez/Tyson
KG/Barg
Pierce/Melo
JJ/Shump
DWill/any PG we throw

Jet/JR
Livingston/Prig
Blatche/Stat
AK47/ ???
Reggie
Kris
Duke highlight kid


it's like we're falling asleep here. And that team can **** w/ any team in the league.

waveycrockett
07-11-2013, 09:40 PM
I am honestly stunned they landed him. AK took a serious cash hit with this signing. The Nets are now legit east contenders, but they still need some depth up front due to age.

What more depth up front do you need with Blatche, Evans, AK-47, Plumlee and Teletovic??? I think Jason Collins is a guy we can get worst case.

king4day
07-11-2013, 09:41 PM
I bet there was an under the table deal from the Nets' owner.

Blitzace137
07-11-2013, 09:42 PM
What exactly would the NBA investigate? AK already has money even if he does get under the table money no way Pork lets the NBA trace that back to him. It was either play for another team for the MLE or play for Pork and the Nets for 3.1 and be on a contending team.

waveycrockett
07-11-2013, 09:42 PM
When JR Smith signed that low ball deal last year with the Knicks I didn't hear any whispers around the league dudes need to get a life. When Ron Artest took a paycut to play in LA 4-5 years ago I didn't hear any foul play stuff. Brooklyn is a big market they gotta deal with it.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:43 PM
Nets are now better than the Knicks, and are better than the Heat. If JKidd doesn't **** this up and baring injury they can beat the heat easily!

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:44 PM
Even if the Knicks landed Artest who I think is better, I'll still say the Nets are better than the Knicks. Heat fans should be scared off their pants, New York will be in the finals next season whether its Nets or Knicks!

waveycrockett
07-11-2013, 09:46 PM
Even if the Knicks landed Artest who I think is better, I'll still say the Nets are better than the Knicks. Heat fans should be scared off their pants, New York will be in the finals next season whether its Nets or Knicks!

NICEEEEEEEEeeeeee!!! I like this new side of you!!

smood999
07-11-2013, 09:49 PM
That's an extremely homer comment. The pacers would have destroyed the nets in a playoff series.

not a Nets fan, obviously, but I don't think that's far off base...no one could've predicted what Hibbert pulled in the playoffs and that was the main reason the Pacers got as far as they did...Hibbert completely elevated that team to another level, they weren't as good as they were until then...

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:50 PM
NICEEEEEEEEeeeeee!!! I like this new side of you!!

Kick rocks Wavey :laugh2: before this signing we we're better but with ak47 y'all got it. If everything goes right and Kidd doesn't **** this up, y'all will beat the heat easily. You pose too many match up problems for them! If the nets were to face the Knicks, it would go to 7 but the nets still win. If we get World peace it will be interesting but for now y'all got it!

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:51 PM
not a Nets fan, obviously, but I don't think that's far off base...no one could've predicted what Hibbert pulled in the playoffs and that was the main reason the Pacers got as far as they did...Hibbert completely elevated that team to another level, they weren't as good as they were until then...

Hibbert pulled his skirt down and came to play. Gotta give it up to him!

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 09:51 PM
Even if the Knicks landed Artest who I think is better, I'll still say the Nets are better than the Knicks. Heat fans should be scared off their pants, New York will be in the finals next season whether its Nets or Knicks!

You think artest is better than AK47? :crazy:

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:52 PM
You think artest is better than AK47? :crazy:

Yup

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 09:52 PM
When JR Smith signed that low ball deal last year with the Knicks I didn't hear any whispers around the league dudes need to get a life. When Ron Artest took a paycut to play in LA 4-5 years ago I didn't hear any foul play stuff. Brooklyn is a big market they gotta deal with it.

Smith didn't turn down 10mil to sign for 3.

Anyways, this still put the nets right with the bulls and pacers, all 3 clearly behind miami.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 09:52 PM
Yup

AK47 is better than artest and it's not close.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 09:54 PM
Someone is sad the Nets are now officially a contender hahaha

sad? I could care less. But the issue needs to be looked into. Not just me saying it bud.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:56 PM
Smith didn't turn down 10mil to sign for 3.

Anyways, this still put the nets right with the bulls and pacers, all 3 clearly in front miami.

Fixed.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 09:56 PM
AK47 is better than artest and it's not close.

Just like Dantoni was a great hire?

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 09:57 PM
What more depth up front do you need with Blatche, Evans, AK-47, Plumlee and Teletovic??? I think Jason Collins is a guy we can get worst case.

dude, you are a complete homer, and can find no fault in your team. Why do you think I would even entice a rational discussion about the Nets with you?

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 09:57 PM
@SteveKerrTNT

For a team that needed defensive help in the worst way, I don't think the Nets could have done any better this offseason than AK47 and KG.

TBH they still can. They got euro stashed players to trade w/ Evans or Hump.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 09:57 PM
Nets are now better than the Knicks, and are better than the Heat. If JKidd doesn't **** this up and baring injury they can beat the heat easily!

show me how they are better than the Heat. Please.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 09:59 PM
Fixed.

I thought your trolling improved, guess not.

nickdymez
07-11-2013, 10:01 PM
show me how they are better than the Heat. Please.

I mean, they are definitely deeper than the Heat. They have a better roster top to bottom. At this stage, Wade isnt leaps and bounds better than johnson. They are a better team.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-11-2013, 10:01 PM
show me how they are better than the Heat. Please.

they aren't better than the heat but I do believe they are in the same tier as the Bulls/Pacers now fighting for the #2 seed.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:02 PM
I thought your trolling improved, guess not.

Teach me

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 10:02 PM
I mean, they are definitely deeper than the Heat. They have a better roster top to bottom. At this stage, Wade isnt leaps and bounds better than johnson. They are a better team.

Everyone knows you are a heat hater. Just move along.

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 10:03 PM
that 2nd unit of

Livingston
Blatche
Plumlee

that's gonna be a fun unit to watch man ngl there.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:03 PM
they aren't better than the heat but I do believe they are in the same tier as the Bulls/Pacers now fighting for the #2 seed.

and thank god one of the few rational fans came around. I agree entirely.

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
show me how they are better than the Heat. Please.

LeBron vs Pierce
D-Will is better than any PG they have
KG vs Bosh
JJ vs Wade
Lopez vs who?

this is real. They aren't better, but they there.

People forget also, AK47 is a stretch guard. He can guard PG/SG/SF/PF sometimes a C

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
show me how they are better than the Heat. Please.

They're deeper an they pose match up problems. And I said baring injury. Remember they replace Wallace and Evans with Pierce and KG and last time I check the heat can't defend KG and Pierce, and Lopez and Deron etc

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
I mean, they are definitely deeper than the Heat. They have a better roster top to bottom. At this stage, Wade isnt leaps and bounds better than johnson. They are a better team.

Joe Johnson? THE Joe Johnson? Who hasn't been crap in the playoffs for years?

The difference between these two teams is this:

LeBron
Defense
Shooters
Athletic ability

in order. The Nets do not have interior defense to stop Bron, and even mentioning JJ as a difference maker once real games start is ridiculous. Any Hawks/Nets fan will abide by that.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:06 PM
LeBron vs Pierce
D-Will is better than any PG they have
KG vs Bosh
JJ vs Wade
Lopez vs who?

this is real. They aren't better, but they there.

I think they're better. Justin's butthurt and Hawkeye probably still mad am 47 dipped but he probably doesn't care!

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:06 PM
They're deeper an they pose match up problems. And I said baring injury. Remember they replace Wallace and Evans with Pierce and KG and last time I check the heat can't defend KG and Pierce, and Lopez and Deron etc

depth doesn't matter in the playoffs. What matchup problems? Barring injury, with a roster that will depend on players that are old, or missed a ton of games the previous season, is wishful thinking honestly.

The Heat have defended everyone. When it matters, their defense is suffocating, and produces run outs. How has that not been proven the previous 2 years?

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 10:07 PM
I think they're better. Justin's butthurt and Hawkeye probably still mad am 47 dipped but he probably doesn't care!

I can't call them better cuz' the best player on the planet is on Miami. But they there.

@Hawkeye, why did I think you were a Hawks fan?

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:07 PM
I think they're better. Justin's butthurt and Hawkeye probably still mad am 47 dipped but he probably doesn't care!

when will people understand I don't take professional basketball players decisions personal? I don't care about AK's decision. I am simply looking at it from a matchup perspective, of which the Heat win.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-11-2013, 10:07 PM
LeBron vs Pierce
D-Will is better than any PG they have
KG vs Bosh
JJ vs Wade
Lopez vs who?

this is real. They aren't better, but they there.

People forget also, AK47 is a stretch guard. He can guard PG/SG/SF/PF sometimes a C


They're deeper an they pose match up problems. And I said baring injury. Remember they replace Wallace and Evans with Pierce and KG and last time I check the heat can't defend KG and Pierce, and Lopez and Deron etc

What is this?!? Knicks fans complimenting the Nets team? Glad to see Knicks fans hate the Heat more than the team who could be taking over their own city.

BTW, where was this same logic last week after the trade? you two barely mention AK

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:08 PM
I can't call them better cuz' the best player on the planet is on Miami. But they there.

@Hawkeye, why did I think you were a Hawks fan?

oh, I didn't, I was talking about JJ experts to some degree, since his own fans understand how awful he is when the playoffs start.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:09 PM
I can't call them better cuz' the best player on the planet is on Miami. But they there.

@Hawkeye, why did I think you were a Hawks fan?

that korean chick in your sig is so hot. I want her to have my babies.

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 10:10 PM
where Brooklyn F'd up was not getting Avery Bradley, man if they were to get him. Or if they have any sense try to get Granger or Stephenson from Indy. Then that'd be the squad to beat in the East.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:10 PM
What is this?!? Knicks fans complimenting the Nets team? Glad to see Knicks fans hate the Heat more than the team who could be taking over their own city.

BTW, where was this same logic last week after the trade? you two barely mention AK

For the record this will always be a Knicks town, but you guys are better and it's not close.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-11-2013, 10:10 PM
when will people understand I don't take professional basketball players decisions personal? I don't care about AK's decision. I am simply looking at it from a matchup perspective, of which the Heat win.

It's crazy how good Lebron is. Literally any decision that any contending team in the East makes has to revolve around how it can help contain him. This AK signing is bigger than Pierce IMO. We will need him in key minutes running around screens trying to slow im down in any way. The signing addressed a HUGE flaw we had at the backup 3. just need to work on chemistry and develop a good defensive system that won't need athleticism to thrive.

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:12 PM
that korean chick in your sig is so hot. I want her to have my babies.

:laugh2:

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 10:15 PM
What is this?!? Knicks fans complimenting the Nets team? Glad to see Knicks fans hate the Heat more than the team who could be taking over their own city.

BTW, where was this same logic last week after the trade? you two barely mention AK

I've always gave them props. Caught heat from my own fanbase and caught a heckler or two for it.

well to be honest we really didn't see this coming. Even before this deal, they were deep & better. Now it's a scary match up. And it's not like 38 yr. olds everywhere, it's a few vets and mid 20's players w/ playoff experience and championship experience. KG alone changes a locker room.


oh, I didn't, I was talking about JJ experts to some degree, since his own fans understand how awful he is when the playoffs start.

LOLS I know.


that korean chick in your sig is so hot. I want her to have my babies.

I'd pay for her exchange and make her my sex slave. :cool:

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:15 PM
It's crazy how good Lebron is. Literally any decision that any contending team in the East makes has to revolve around how it can help contain him. This AK signing is bigger than Pierce IMO. We will need him in key minutes running around screens trying to slow im down in any way. The signing addressed a HUGE flaw we had at the backup 3. just need to work on chemistry and develop a good defensive system that won't need athleticism to thrive.

Honestly, that is the bottom line. LeBron James is the best player since Jordan, and it really isn't even close. Sorry haters. But to think you are taking out Miami, is going to require perfection. Absolute perfection. And that is why I just don't think any of these moves ultimately matter in the long run, but of course they at least set the table for a what if.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-11-2013, 10:21 PM
Honestly, that is the bottom line. LeBron James is the best player since Jordan, and it really isn't even close. Sorry haters. But to think you are taking out Miami, is going to require perfection. Absolute perfection. And that is why I just don't think any of these moves ultimately matter in the long run, but of course they at least set the table for a what if.

As a fan of a franchise who hasn't won anything in a very long time, I couldn't be happier though. These Lakers/Heats/Mavs/whatever fans can try to derail these moves as nothing just because we can't beat the Heat. But for me as a fan, having this much talent is an awesome feeling to have - even if we "just" make it to the 2nd or 3rd round. If I knew 3 years ago when lost out on the #1 pick (Wall) and had by far the best record that I wouldn't be thrilled at a 2nd/3rd showing with a lineup of Dwill/JJ/Pierce/KG/Lopez (my favorite player on Nets), I would punch that fan in the face. It's all good here.

But to get back to the point: Yes. Lebron James is and will always in the way of any team's hope of winning the championship for the rest of this decade.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:24 PM
As a fan of a franchise who hasn't won anything in a very long time, I couldn't be happier though. These Lakers/Heats/Mavs/whatever fans can try to derail these moves as nothing just because we can't beat the Heat. But for me as a fan, having this much talent is an awesome feeling to have - even if we "just" make it to the 2nd or 3rd round. If I knew 3 years ago when lost out on the #1 pick (Wall) and had by far the best record that I wouldn't be thrilled at a 2nd/3rd showing with a lineup of Dwill/JJ/Pierce/KG/Lopez (my favorite player on Nets), I would punch that fan in the face. It's all good here.

But to get back to the point: Yes. Lebron James is and will always in the way of any team's hope of winning the championship for the rest of this decade.

as a Wolves fan, I am so excited about re-entering relevance, and I think the Nets (well, I know) will be a better team, so I get where you are coming from.

Its always nice to see your team, that you follow by the minute, be good. And I think we are both there, despite obvious expectation differences.

And yep, Bron has entered scary world. He knows he is the best player in the universe. And closes you out as such. We will see how long it lasts.

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 10:31 PM
With much respect I just remembered Birdman is the Heat C.

But who do you give the edge to? Birdman or Lopez?

JerseyPalahniuk
07-11-2013, 10:32 PM
as a Wolves fan, I am so excited about re-entering relevance, and I think the Nets (well, I know) will be a better team, so I get where you are coming from.

Its always nice to see your team, that you follow by the minute, be good. And I think we are both there, despite obvious expectation differences.

And yep, Bron has entered scary world. He knows he is the best player in the universe. And closes you out as such. We will see how long it lasts.

Well I think your Wolves are in a good position in that the expectations have almost "lowered" from the outsiders perspective. The casual fan probably knows very little about the Wolves' injury report (except maybe Rubio and Love's) so even being .500 will be an improvement. I really like the Martin and (almost done) Brewer signings. The team should round out well but the West just got deeper. While the Thunder (losing Martin) , Spurs (age), Grizzlies (coach), Nuggets (coach, Iggy) may have taken a step back or remained the same, the Rockets/Warriors/Clippers just came roaring back. It should be a race between the Wolves/Lakers/Blazers maybe the Pelicans for that last spot and right now the Wolves are the clear favorites.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 10:38 PM
I think they're better. Justin's butthurt and Hawkeye probably still mad am 47 dipped but he probably doesn't care!

My team is about to 3peat, your team just traded for Barngani. Who is butthurt? :laugh:

shep33
07-11-2013, 10:41 PM
My team is about to 3peat, your team just traded for Barngani. Who is butthurt? :laugh:

No guarantees in a 3 peat. Don't jump the gun. An injury can ruin everything

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:41 PM
My team is about to 3peat, your team just traded for Barngani. Who is butthurt? :laugh:

I remember when Brags scored 30+ on the heat and made Bosh his *****. :laugh: New York winning a title whether its the nets or Knicks. Enjoy LeBron for the last time brah!

GiantsSwaGG
07-11-2013, 10:42 PM
No guarantees in a 3 peat. Don't jump the gun. An injury can ruin everything

He was in board with hiring Dantoni, he's trolling needs to improve

shep33
07-11-2013, 10:48 PM
If the Knicks adds Metta and Aaron Brooks... that's a pretty dangerous team. Not the biggest names out there, but playing Melo next to Metta and Shump basically frees up Melo even more.

Knicks will be solid this year too. Nice to see the east getting better, although still top heavy

RiLoc
07-11-2013, 10:48 PM
Wow, surprising considering Kirilenko opted out of $10 million left on the final year of his contract with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2013, 10:50 PM
Well I think your Wolves are in a good position in that the expectations have almost "lowered" from the outsiders perspective. The casual fan probably knows very little about the Wolves' injury report (except maybe Rubio and Love's) so even being .500 will be an improvement. I really like the Martin and (almost done) Brewer signings. The team should round out well but the West just got deeper. While the Thunder (losing Martin) , Spurs (age), Grizzlies (coach), Nuggets (coach, Iggy) may have taken a step back or remained the same, the Rockets/Warriors/Clippers just came roaring back. It should be a race between the Wolves/Lakers/Blazers maybe the Pelicans for that last spot and right now the Wolves are the clear favorites.

I consider myself as least of a homer as possible.

If the Wolves stay healthy, they can win 50-55 games.

Max.This
07-11-2013, 10:55 PM
My team is about to 3peat, your team just traded for Barngani. Who is butthurt? :laugh:

your about to watch a one man Lebron james squad next year.

MyDRoseLikeDeng
07-11-2013, 11:10 PM
The east is scaryyyyy :speechless:

MyDRoseLikeDeng
07-11-2013, 11:11 PM
Sidenote, they should do free agency right before training camp because it is such a tease..making us wait a whole 4 more months for the season to start :mad:

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 11:17 PM
My team is about to 3peat, your team just traded for Barngani. Who is butthurt? :laugh:

Felton vs Chalmers
Melo vs LeBron
Tyson vs Birdman
Barg vs Bosh

It's gonna be on this coming season. If the Heat win a 3rd straight, they are legit one of the best NBA teams ever constructed aside from the Russell Celtics. And Spolstra should get a boost future HOF coach consideration. Cuz' next season

The Bulls
The Pacers
The Nets
The Knicks

It's on.

justinnum1
07-11-2013, 11:19 PM
Felton vs Chalmers
Melo vs LeBron
Tyson vs Birdman
Barg vs Bosh

It's gonna be on this coming season. If the Heat win a 3rd straight, they are legit one of the best NBA teams ever constructed aside from the Russell Celtics. And Spolstra should get a boost future HOF coach consideration. Cuz' next season

The Bulls
The Pacers
The Nets
The Knicks

It's on.
Not sure why the knicks are there. nets, bulls, pacers and heat are the contenders from the east.

smith&wesson
07-11-2013, 11:19 PM
not sure what the lakers are doing. Did they re sign Jamison ? I thi k they may tank for wiggins. Wiggins would look :drool: in a lakers uniform... Even better in a raps uni :dance: hope one of those two teams get him..

steveweve
07-11-2013, 11:21 PM
My team is about to 3peat, your team just traded for Barngani. Who is butthurt? :laugh:

So ignorant.

xabial
07-11-2013, 11:26 PM
True, but you're acting like the Knicks have good chemistry. It's usually ISO Melo ISO JR.

Dont forget ally oop chandler

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 11:31 PM
Dont forget ally oop chandler

*coughs* it's pick n' roll Chandler.

and we haven't had major issues beating the Heat last I checked.

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 11:32 PM
Not sure why the knicks are there. nets, bulls, pacers and heat are the contenders from the east.

So we ain't even in the convo?

True Sports Fan
07-11-2013, 11:33 PM
If the Knicks adds Metta and Aaron Brooks... that's a pretty dangerous team. Not the biggest names out there, but playing Melo next to Metta and Shump basically frees up Melo even more.

Knicks will be solid this year too. Nice to see the east getting better, although still top heavy

Adding Metta would work wonders for Melo, and the Knicks imo

JerseyPalahniuk
07-11-2013, 11:38 PM
Let's just say I'm happy that Marc Stein was wrong about Korver being "in the bag" AND Woj reporting a few days later that we had signed Bogdanavic to a 2 year deal. Our plan C turned out to be plan A+

KniCks4LiFe
07-11-2013, 11:51 PM
Adding Metta would work wonders for Melo, and the Knicks imo

that's a whole lotta crazy tho :laugh2:

JR and Metta one weekend in Manhattan.

MrfadeawayJB
07-12-2013, 12:24 AM
No surprise here

heyman321
07-12-2013, 12:36 AM
Proky is probably paying him in vodka and russian hookers on the side.

uprightciti
07-12-2013, 12:45 AM
**** that's umm scary?

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 12:58 AM
I think the plan was always to sign with the Nets though they will never admit that.

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:04 AM
?= Jason Terry

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:10 AM
he thought he could get a 3 year deal in the $20-22 million range really. Market dried up on him.


Eh. Reading the rumors in the Nets blog i got the idea that AK's plan was always the Nets. I feel like he was WAITING for the market to dry up to sign, not so much the market dried. There were plenty of teams interested that could have offered more.

Making it look like he had no choice would make it less fishy. Yes, i am suggesting there is some fishy stuff going on back in Russia. No complaints here.

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:11 AM
I am honestly stunned they landed him. AK took a serious cash hit with this signing. The Nets are now legit east contenders, but they still need some depth up front due to age.

The Blatche signing was made with the condition that Blatche was going to get 25+ minutes at C/PF

In fact rumors indicate that Garnett only agreed to the trade if the Nets secured Blatche

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:14 AM
They could still use a better backup PG and another 3pt shooter but that team is looking very well rounded now.
If they can get anything positive out of Terry they should have one of the better benches.

Livingston is nice and gives them exactly what their bench lacked last year; playmaking. I am loving this team right now and i think this signing makes them legit threats to the Heat

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:17 AM
No shocker there.. I don't think any foul play, but it is suspicious at the very least.

Yup. They strategically let the market dry up imo. I think the plan was always to bring AK in but needed to make it look less fishy.

NBA-GMaster
07-12-2013, 01:23 AM
Nice!! AK backing up Pierce or Garnett.. :clap:

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:26 AM
Even if the Knicks landed Artest who I think is better, I'll still say the Nets are better than the Knicks. Heat fans should be scared off their pants, New York will be in the finals next season whether its Nets or Knicks!

Kirilenko is better than Artest by a mile. Better defender. Better passer, shot blocker, rebounder, more efficient, better FG%, better overall game.

Artest shoots the 3pt shot a little better but thats it.

This an amazing (and shady but idc) signing.

naps
07-12-2013, 01:32 AM
So AK47 opted out of Minny where he was due to earn $10 million next year and now signed for just $3 million? Something doesn't add up WTF?! Porky must have made some secret deals with him in Russia.

jp611
07-12-2013, 01:33 AM
Probably bought him a mansion

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:36 AM
sad? I could care less. But the issue needs to be looked into. Not just me saying it bud.

At this point you should come out of the closet as a Nets hater. I am cool with you bro but you seem to always have something negative and nothing positive to say about the Nets.

True i dont spend much time on these forums anymore but most Nets threads i see have you there not liking something about the Nets

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:39 AM
show me how they are better than the Heat. Please.

Not saying they ARE better than the Heat but show me why they wouldnt at least give them a Pacers/Spurs level scare

What is the weakness in their roster that you see besides not having Lebron James that will see them fail?

I have been skeptical of the Nets for a while but with this signing and after the trade i see this team as talented enough, balanced enough, and deep enough to challenge the Heat.

EDIT: Nevermind. Upon further reading the thread i saw your reasoning which basically amounts to "Lebron is too good for anyone in the East" which is understandable. I cant say i agree but i get where you are coming from.

Chill_Will_24
07-12-2013, 01:56 AM
The biggest thing i like is that we now have the ability to play small ball with the Heat. Deron is big enough to play SG, Johnson is big enough to play SF, AK47 plays his best at PF, and Garnett at this point imo is better suited as a C

They have a lot of flexibility and depth with this roster to both monitor minutes heavily and make adjustments in games vs small ball teams

Sure the Heat do have a very suffocating defense but we have advantages as well. Namely they have no means to really stop our big men inside. Birdman MAY do a solid job on Lopez (i doubt Birdman can really do much similar to how Tyson Chandler and Joakim Noah cant vs Lopez defensively) who is gonna matchup with Blatche who i think is equally as talented offensively as Lopez and presents his own set of matchup problems? What about KG who even at his age still gives the Heat problems?

If Lopez learns the art of verticality that Hibbert mastered and utilized against the Heat then i think the Nets have a shot at being very good defensively

jp611
07-12-2013, 01:57 AM
This is a huge signing for the Nets though, they're gonna be tougher then people think

I was a critic, but I'm starting to get on board with this team

Old or not, they're gonna be tough

VendettaRed07
07-12-2013, 02:06 AM
Unless knicks make a trade the Nets are clearly better.

Its not to late though. Make a trade Grunwald.

shep33
07-12-2013, 02:08 AM
Unless knicks make a trade the Nets are clearly better.

Its not to late though. Make a trade Grunwald.


What are they going to trade though? They have two assets. Melo and Shump.

Add Metta and Aaron Brooks and call it a summer. Knicks will have a solid club

thekmp211
07-12-2013, 02:30 AM
excellent move. athletic back-up 3/4 is a perfect fit behind pierce. nets are now relegated to minimum contracts.

krisxsong
07-12-2013, 04:36 AM
That's an extremely homer comment. The pacers would have destroyed the nets in a playoff series.

Based on? Why is it a homer comment? Because I'm a Nets fan? I called the Nets getting swept by the Bulls in the playoffs. I am not a homer.

krisxsong
07-12-2013, 04:38 AM
I don't think Blatche, Evans, Plumlee, and Mirza is too terrible as rotational backups. Not to mention being able to play AK at the 4 occasionally. I'd like one more shooter and I'll be very happy.

Don't bother.

People think Blatche hasn't changed since his WAS days.

krisxsong
07-12-2013, 04:39 AM
*coughs* it's pick n' roll Chandler.

and we haven't had major issues beating the Heat last I checked.

The Nets didn't lose to the Pacers once last year but people still act like the gap between the Pacers and Nets is equal to the gap between the Heat and the Bobcats.

krisxsong
07-12-2013, 04:41 AM
So AK47 opted out of Minny where he was due to earn $10 million next year and now signed for just $3 million? Something doesn't add up WTF?! Porky must have made some secret deals with him in Russia.

No.

WHat hhappened was he opted out cause he wanted a longer contract but nobody would sign him. He didn't want to wait for a sign-and-trade so he just left for less money.

krisxsong
07-12-2013, 05:00 AM
See? I told you guys that the team wouldn't be stuck with last years roster for 4 years.

The Nets will be spending a total of 15 million next year on AK47. Luxury tax well over 100 million.

sunsfan88
07-12-2013, 05:11 AM
Damn, he gave up $10M with Minny to sign with BKY for $3M?

krisxsong
07-12-2013, 05:29 AM
Excuse me, a Nets fan for so many comments and sounding like a crazy kid in a candy store.

WOW! I remember it all. I remember 12-70. I remember when we were laughed at for the blueprint for greatness. I remember being mocked for getting Proky and Billy King in our front office. I remember people asking "Why would DWILL stay in Brooklyn?"

Look at us now. Our 6th 7th and 8th best players on the team are Andray Blatche, AK47, and Jason Terry.

I honestly don't think people understand how much PP and KG will help by default, being good shooters. Evans and Wallace wouldn't be guarded so teams would double DWILL and Lopez. You cannot double ANYBODY in this starting lineup anymore.

DWILL/Livingston/Taylor
Johnson/Terry/Livingston
Pierce/AK47/Toko
Garnett/Blatche/AK47/Teletovic
Lopez/Blatche/Plumlee

then throw in Evans somewhere.

That is a seriously stacked team.

TrueFan420
07-12-2013, 06:58 AM
They have the name talent but can they get it done on the floor or is it LA 2.0. Only time will tell. Gonna make for an interesting season.

Guppyfighter
07-12-2013, 07:44 AM
I am ****ing shocked they got AK47 for that price.

SteBO
07-12-2013, 12:04 PM
Damn, great signing. I didn't think they could put together much of a bench, but I've been wrong before. If they can mesh on the floor together, I'd dub them one of the biggest threats to Miami in the East (ahead of Indiana).

KniCks4LiFe
07-12-2013, 12:15 PM
They have the name talent but can they get it done on the floor or is it LA 2.0. Only time will tell. Gonna make for an interesting season.

only thing I see LA 2.0 out of them is Humphries. TBQH PP and KG are still problems. They wore down last season cuz' they had to make a major push just to make the POs wit no PG.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-12-2013, 12:28 PM
only thing I see LA 2.0 out of them is Humphries. TBQH PP and KG are still problems. They wore down last season cuz' they had to make a major push just to make the POs wit no PG.

Humphries is on Boston. And they won't be nearly as worn down with Deron, Joe, Lopez, AK, Blatche to help out

KniCks4LiFe
07-12-2013, 12:34 PM
Humphries is on Boston. And they won't be nearly as worn down with Deron, Joe, Lopez, AK, Blatche to help out

you traded Hump in that deal? damn.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-12-2013, 12:38 PM
you traded Hump in that deal? damn.

I don't understand the damn.. dude was completely out of the rotation.

How did you think the salaries would even match up without his GREAT $12 mill year. (Told you guys last year, there was a reason BK signed him for a big contract - to use him a year later in a big trade to make salaries match. Called it)

Chronz
07-12-2013, 01:13 PM
Livingston is nice and gives them exactly what their bench lacked last year; playmaking. I am loving this team right now and i think this signing makes them legit threats to the Heat

Livingston?

waveycrockett
07-12-2013, 01:20 PM
Livingston?

When I saw Livingston last season he was solid. Obviously nothing more than a backup and a poor scorre but we only need him for 10 minutes a game. DWILL will play 35-37 mins and PP and JJ will both run some point foward as they have done alot in the past. CJ Watson was a score 1st PG with a bench as deep as we got we need someone who can drop dimes which Livingston can.

Mcdoh
07-12-2013, 01:42 PM
wow.. grats brooklyn.

KniCks4LiFe
07-12-2013, 02:03 PM
I don't understand the damn.. dude was completely out of the rotation.

How did you think the salaries would even match up without his GREAT $12 mill year. (Told you guys last year, there was a reason BK signed him for a big contract - to use him a year later in a big trade to make salaries match. Called it)

the damn is IDK how you got Boston to take him.

AddiX
07-12-2013, 02:15 PM
Props to bk, unlike so many other new teams before them, they get it.

A new team has to win asap. If you want real fans, and want to be a team people pay attention to, you need to make moves early.

Look at the bobcats, no fans, no history, if they were gone tomorrow, you would forget they even existed a day after.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-12-2013, 02:21 PM
Props to bk, unlike so many other new teams before them, they get it.

A new team has to win asap. If you want real fans, and want to be a team people pay attention to, you need to make moves early.

Look at the bobcats, no fans, no history, if they were gone tomorrow, you would forget they even existed a day after.

:cheers:

JerseyPalahniuk
07-12-2013, 02:23 PM
Props to bk, unlike so many other new teams before them, they get it.

A new team has to win asap. If you want real fans, and want to be a team people pay attention to, you need to make moves early.

Look at the bobcats, no fans, no history, if they were gone tomorrow, you would forget they even existed a day after.

:cheers: No way Nets lead the league in merchandise last year if we didn't take on the massive JJ contract that got Dwill to stay. No way we keep the momentum growing unless we got better this year.

AddiX
07-12-2013, 02:30 PM
:cheers: No way Nets lead the league in merchandise last year if we didn't take on the massive JJ contract that got Dwill to stay. No way we keep the momentum growing unless we got better this year.

I'm a Knicks fan and I'd be lying if I said I'm not excited to see what the nets look like. It's exciting what they've done.

People who are hating on them for the draft picks they traded and $ there spending are just hating. 90% of them have teams they don't care even care about, barely have a chance at playoffs, and there relying on some draft pick they acquired in 2015, or some rookie who has "potential."

Meanwhile nets making power moves and doing it big. Props to them.

ambisme56
07-12-2013, 02:42 PM
Think Melo is having second thoughts on decline to get trade to Brooklyn. Now he's where he wanted to be on a team that won't get past the 2nd rd of the playoffs if that. Miami Brooklyn Chicago and Indiana are far better than the Knicks. Sounds like a first round exit versus Chicago or Indiana.

1. Miami (61-64 wins) Don't see them winning 20+ in a row this year.

2. Brooklyn (58-61 wins) This team will gel extremely well. Won 49 games last year with Wallace and Evans as starters. Extremely deep team; probably deepest in the NBA.

3. Chicago (52-55 wins) Will be a really good team but could see them getting off to a slow/shaky start the first month or so of the season. D-rose will be healthy but team chemistry will need to be reworked.

4. Pacers- (50-52 wins) Basically ditto from last year. More ups than downs and George will continue to grow into a superstar. Not sure how Grainger works in all of this.

5. Knicks- (45-48 wins) If Melo stays healthy he will get them to the 5th spot in the east. Just not confident about the rest of their roster. Everything about Bargnani? Will J.R. repeat as 6th man winner? Does Chandler have anything left? This is now Melo's and Shumps team...can they will the Knicks to more than the 5th seed?

JerseyPalahniuk
07-12-2013, 02:55 PM
I'm a Knicks fan and I'd be lying if I said I'm not excited to see what the nets look like. It's exciting what they've done.

People who are hating on them for the draft picks they traded and $ there spending are just hating. 90% of them have teams they don't care even care about, barely have a chance at playoffs, and there relying on some draft pick they acquired in 2015, or some rookie who has "potential."

Meanwhile nets making power moves and doing it big. Props to them.

Good to hear, man. I'm hoping Amare can come back fully healthy to see New York take over. Hate Melo though haha.

But yeah, we've been rebuilding for a very long time. Finally, we start winning games and all the other fans complain about is our future?

JerseyPalahniuk
07-12-2013, 02:56 PM
I'm a Knicks fan and I'd be lying if I said I'm not excited to see what the nets look like. It's exciting what they've done.

People who are hating on them for the draft picks they traded and $ there spending are just hating. 90% of them have teams they don't care even care about, barely have a chance at playoffs, and there relying on some draft pick they acquired in 2015, or some rookie who has "potential."

Meanwhile nets making power moves and doing it big. Props to them.

Good to hear, man. I'm hoping Amare can come back fully healthy to see New York take over. Hate Melo though haha.

But yeah, we've been rebuilding for a very long time. Finally, we start winning games and all the other fans complain about is our future?

bootleg42
07-12-2013, 05:03 PM
Think Melo is having second thoughts on decline to get trade to Brooklyn. Now he's where he wanted to be on a team that won't get past the 2nd rd of the playoffs if that. Miami Brooklyn Chicago and Indiana are far better than the Knicks. Sounds like a first round exit versus Chicago or Indiana.

1. Miami (61-64 wins) Don't see them winning 20+ in a row this year.

2. Brooklyn (58-61 wins) This team will gel extremely well. Won 49 games last year with Wallace and Evans as starters. Extremely deep team; probably deepest in the NBA.

3. Chicago (52-55 wins) Will be a really good team but could see them getting off to a slow/shaky start the first month or so of the season. D-rose will be healthy but team chemistry will need to be reworked.

4. Pacers- (50-52 wins) Basically ditto from last year. More ups than downs and George will continue to grow into a superstar. Not sure how Grainger works in all of this.

5. Knicks- (45-48 wins) If Melo stays healthy he will get them to the 5th spot in the east. Just not confident about the rest of their roster. Everything about Bargnani? Will J.R. repeat as 6th man winner? Does Chandler have anything left? This is now Melo's and Shumps team...can they will the Knicks to more than the 5th seed?

As a Knick fan, I agree.

It's embarrassing to see Brooklyn do everything possible to take out Miami now while the Knicks end up getting.........................................An drea Bargnani!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2:

This is a typical James Dolan type of move. The Nets will be exciting to watch.

Guppyfighter
07-12-2013, 05:29 PM
Knicks are going to fall all the way to the fifth seed.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
07-12-2013, 05:51 PM
Damn, they building themselves a quite the squad.