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Clippersfan86
07-06-2013, 03:00 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 56s
Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

LTBaByyy
07-06-2013, 03:01 PM
@WojYahooNBA: Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Clippersfan86
07-06-2013, 03:01 PM
Very very good fit BUT my question now is... does Monroe become a trade chip to add some wings?

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:01 PM
Knight
KCP
Smith
Monroe
Drummond

Finally could have a playoff team again!

SteveNash
07-06-2013, 03:02 PM
Welp :/

shep33
07-06-2013, 03:03 PM
I hate this for Detroit.

Smith isn't playing the SF. Which means Drummond is likely not going to develop properly

LTBaByyy
07-06-2013, 03:03 PM
14 mil a year for Josh Smith idk about that

But a line up of:

Knight
KCP
Smoove
Monroe
Drummond


Might be the most athletic line up in the league!!!

But they need a shooter to stretch the floor

Vinny642
07-06-2013, 03:03 PM
wow surprising deal

NYMetros
07-06-2013, 03:03 PM
so confused. what does this mean for Monroe? Are they just gonna play Monroe at C and bring Drummond off the bench? That's a really good way to stunt the growth of a very promising young player. Really don't get this signing unless they have a trade lined up or something.

OceanSpray
07-06-2013, 03:03 PM
Woah, huge bust for Rockets. Josh Smith in Pistons? Damn, wonder what they're going to do with Drummond/Monroe. Bad fit for Josh and Detroit. Josh could've gone to Celtics.

Clippersfan86
07-06-2013, 03:03 PM
I hate this for Detroit.

Smith isn't playing the SF. Which means Drummond is likely not going to develop properly

Monroe likely odd man out. Unless Detroit is stupid they build around Drummond IMO.

VendettaRed07
07-06-2013, 03:04 PM
lm glad the pistons are at least going to give competing a try, instead of just tanking yet again. Good for them. They didn't overpay either.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:04 PM
Monroe for Rondo?

RipCity32
07-06-2013, 03:04 PM
We weren't getting anybody else.We will have to see how he worked at SF but this move might put Monroe on the block.

flea
07-06-2013, 03:04 PM
What a terrible signing. Dumars, in spite of his ineptitude, has the most promising frontcourt in the league and what does he do? Sign an inefficient and overpaid chucker that needs to steal minutes from his team's only source of real talent to be effective.

Keep3HEATSOnMe
07-06-2013, 03:05 PM
Bad fit for him.

abe_froman
07-06-2013, 03:05 PM
i'm shocked,they should be tanking ,not trying to get a low seed.also what happens to monroe?

StriveGreatness
07-06-2013, 03:05 PM
Pistons need to get a ball dominant point guard that can feed Smith as a slasher now.

MrfadeawayJB
07-06-2013, 03:05 PM
Monroe on trade block. Detroit looks exciting this year

StriveGreatness
07-06-2013, 03:05 PM
i'm shocked,they should be tanking ,not tryingo get a low seed.also what happens to monroe?

Joe Dumars can't afford to tank.

LTBaByyy
07-06-2013, 03:06 PM
They need to get new uniforms and logo to go with this new era!

Tired of those uniforms, I always think of Ben Wallace Afro

NYMetros
07-06-2013, 03:06 PM
Rondo for Monroe makes a ton of sense for both teams.

Keep3HEATSOnMe
07-06-2013, 03:06 PM
So maybe Rockets pursue Anderson from the Pelicans for Asik?

Lil Rhody
07-06-2013, 03:07 PM
Monroe for Rondo?

I was thinking the same and hearing Piston fans saying they need a wing can we throw green into the mix and match salaries

OceanSpray
07-06-2013, 03:08 PM
Something leads me to believe that Celtics are going to tank. They literally traded their team for the future and they hired an unproven coach who will need time to learn. Josh Smith definitely could've gone to a different team that actually fits him. Detroit is going to be a good team but it leads to me believe that Drummond is going to be playing less minutes. He's their future, can't believe they aren't giving him that opportunity.

Bruno
07-06-2013, 03:09 PM
he got paid more than iggy.

LTBaByyy
07-06-2013, 03:10 PM
Rondo
KCP
Singler
J Smoove
Drummond

I like that line up!!!

Knight and Monroe for Rondo

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:10 PM
Smith and Drummond defensively :drool:

Cali4rnia
07-06-2013, 03:10 PM
They should of got Andre Iguodala when he was available.

Knight
Iggy
Singler
Drummond
MOnroe.

that would of been some crazy line up.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:11 PM
he got paid more than iggy.

Yeah but Iggy signed with a contender and Smith is 2 years younger.

Teeboy1487
07-06-2013, 03:11 PM
One less team to tank against.

Ezio
07-06-2013, 03:11 PM
Monroe for Klay or Barnes?

Lil Rhody
07-06-2013, 03:11 PM
Rondo
KCP
Singler
J Smoove
Drummond

I like that line up!!!

Knight and Monroe for Rondo



Can we add green and get Stucky

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:12 PM
Can we add green and get Stucky

Please do.

rocket
07-06-2013, 03:12 PM
I honestly think we will be getting Rondo. Why would Josh sign here and not Houston? I wonder understand if he signed here for the max and not Houston but he didn't sign for the max...

StriveGreatness
07-06-2013, 03:13 PM
Monroe for Klay or Barnes?

We need a point guard

Chronz
07-06-2013, 03:13 PM
14 mil a year for Josh Smith idk about that

But a line up of:

Knight
KCP
Smoove
Monroe
Drummond


Might be the most athletic line up in the league!!!

But they need a shooter to stretch the floor
A shooter? With that frontcourt they need several. That team might work in the 80's/90's but not in todays NBA.

dee279
07-06-2013, 03:13 PM
Josh Smith is probably going to play SF. I dont see the problem with it. I can see him going back to his 3 blocks a game days when he was playing SF. Better then starting Singler r whateva his name is.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:15 PM
353592478781276160

I still think the Pistons go after Rondo.

We_need_players
07-06-2013, 03:15 PM
353592478781276160

shep33
07-06-2013, 03:15 PM
Hearing the #Pistons believe Josh can play with Monroe and Drummond, that he'll play 3 and 4

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2YIJiijEj

Prepare to be zoned up Detroit

NYMetros
07-06-2013, 03:17 PM
One less team to tank against.

the Lakers aren't tanking :laugh:

rocket
07-06-2013, 03:17 PM
Joe Dumars said look for them to be involved more in trades rather than free agency... if we can get Rondo without trading Monroe that would be insane :drool:

But if we have to trade Monroe...

Knight+Stuckey+Monroe+1st protected

for Green and Rondo

6cadi6
07-06-2013, 03:18 PM
Huh. :superman:

LAKobeBryant
07-06-2013, 03:18 PM
yes 1 less team to tank for wiggins
TORONTO!

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:19 PM
Is he a perfect fit? No, but the Pistons should be a playoff team now.

Still young, a lot more athletic, good defensively. I'm happy.

JWO35
07-06-2013, 03:20 PM
Signing Smith just opened up a few more guys to be available for a potential Rondo trade...

Giannis94
07-06-2013, 03:22 PM
Auburn Hills?

Yes, Detroit is the biggest dump in the league.

bucketss
07-06-2013, 03:22 PM
Knight
KCP
Smith
Monroe
Drummond

Finally could have a playoff team again!

you're miss using josh if you put him at SF! so the R.gay trade might happen and drummond will probably come off the bench.

Sinestro
07-06-2013, 03:23 PM
Man this team will have no shooting whatsoever.... I would have been patient if I was them...ouch I hope this signing doesn't end up being a Ben Gordon level of regret

MagicBucsSox
07-06-2013, 03:24 PM
so confused. what does this mean for Monroe? Are they just gonna play Monroe at C and bring Drummond off the bench? That's a really good way to stunt the growth of a very promising young player. Really don't get this signing unless they have a trade lined up or something.

Yes because Drummond isn't developed yet

MagicBucsSox
07-06-2013, 03:25 PM
Signing Smith just opened up a few more guys to be available for a potential Rondo trade...
Should've been Houston target before smith anyway

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:26 PM
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Ezio
07-06-2013, 03:26 PM
We need a point guard

What about the kid that got destroyed by Jordan?

ManRam
07-06-2013, 03:28 PM
i don't think smith/monroe/drummond can work.

i'd imagine there's a follow up move.

bucketss
07-06-2013, 03:28 PM
Woah, huge bust for Rockets. Josh Smith in Pistons? Damn, wonder what they're going to do with Drummond/Monroe. Bad fit for Josh and Detroit. Josh could've gone to Celtics.

rockets probably will trade for ryan andersen which is IMO the better option.

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:28 PM
Man this team will have no shooting whatsoever.... I would have been patient if I was them...ouch I hope this signing doesn't end up being a Ben Gordon level of regret

I'd take defense over offense any day all day

StriveGreatness
07-06-2013, 03:28 PM
What about the kid that got destroyed by Jordan?

He's garbage

Deception
07-06-2013, 03:29 PM
i don't think smith/monroe/drummond can work.

i'd imagine there's a follow up move.

I expect the same, I can't judge the signing until the season begins. Hope we can grab us a PG for Monroe

WITZ
07-06-2013, 03:29 PM
Man this team will have no shooting whatsoever.... I would have been patient if I was them...ouch I hope this signing doesn't end up being a Ben Gordon level of regret

Yep the spacing on that team is going to be horrible if they stick to that line-up exception being Pope.

MagicBucsSox
07-06-2013, 03:29 PM
Maybe monroe or Drummond for rondo?

rocket
07-06-2013, 03:30 PM
I like it... Smith is 27 in the prime of his career.

rocket
07-06-2013, 03:30 PM
i don't think smith/monroe/drummond can work.

i'd imagine there's a follow up move.

rondooooooooo

JWO35
07-06-2013, 03:31 PM
He's garbage

His PG skills died that night....

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:31 PM
Pistons beat writers are saying $54M

dtmagnet
07-06-2013, 03:32 PM
Worse than the contract Turkoglu got.

STL Don
07-06-2013, 03:32 PM
Now unless they make a trade, Drummond will be forced to backup Monroe. I dont like that..drummond is their biggest chance of taking the next step. With Smith/Monroe theyre a 7th/8th seed at best.

Drummond#1
07-06-2013, 03:32 PM
Smith plays well at the three. I think Cheeks will sacrifice some offense to have an absolute stopper at the SF position. Moose Dre and Smoove will be the best front court in the league next year. If we can pull in Teague as well that would be sick.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:33 PM
Drummond is starting.

WARRIORS@GR
07-06-2013, 03:34 PM
Monroe> Drummond now and for the next 3 years for sure.

Goose17
07-06-2013, 03:34 PM
The deal falls short of the maximum contract Smith was looking for, and gives him just a slight bump from the $13.2MM he made last season with the Hawks. The Warriors and Hawks also had interest, and the Celtics reportedly were set to target Smith in the wake of having traded Paul Pierce, but no team pursued him with as much vigor as Detroit, as Wojnarowski writes. The Pistons met with the client of Wallace Prather and Brian **** in the first hours of free agency, and though an offer didn't come out of that encounter, it was clear the team regarded him as more than the "Plan B" he appeared to be for other suitors who were waiting to hear from Howard.

The Pistons also had their sights on Andre Iguodala, and would like to have re-signed Jose Calderon, but with both of them agreeing on deals with other teams, it looks like president of basketball operations Joe Dumars and company circled back to their No. 1 option. The team should still have close to $10MM in cap room to complement an impressive front line of Smith, Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond.


edit; forgot the quotations.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:35 PM
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Sheed is expected to join the coaching staff tomorrow.

Bruno
07-06-2013, 03:38 PM
josh smith posted negative offensive win-shares last season over 76 games.

these contracts that non-max players get are atrocious. league has learned nothing since the lockout. not that there's anything to learn; the system is flawed.

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:40 PM
Im so Fkn happy!!!!!

Knight
Kcp
Smoooove
Drum/roe

Detroit basketballlllllll

Jenceman
07-06-2013, 03:40 PM
Haha so much for that idiot who wanted to sig bet me that the Rockets would sign Smith and bunch of random role players :laugh2:

STL Don
07-06-2013, 03:41 PM
If they can land a nice pg for Monroe, i will than like this signing. There has already been Rondo rumors..maybe Dragic/filler?
Also, do they still believe in Stuckey? Especially now with Knight/Pope

Burkey3472
07-06-2013, 03:42 PM
Not sure why they did this.....he just doesn't fit at all with Monroe and Drummond. Unless they are trading Monroe and getting a PG this is a bad move.

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:42 PM
josh smith posted negative offensive win-shares last season over 76 games.

these contracts that non-max players get are atrocious. league has learned nothing since the lockout. not that there's anything to learn; the system is flawed.

The Pistons have too many rookie contracts. There gonna have enough money for the rest their players when rookie contracts are up. Josh smith is 13 mill dollar piece. Not bad

Deception
07-06-2013, 03:43 PM
If they can land a nice pg for Monroe, i will than like this signing. There has already been Rondo rumors..maybe Dragic/filler?
Also, do they still believe in Stuckey? Especially now with Knight/Pope

Stuckey is out of the picture as a PG, they're hoping Knight can pan out as a PG with Mo Cheeks, as they believe Westbrook benefitted with him being in OKC.
I'll pass on Dragic, seems like a lateral move, even though he is a better player right now compared to Knight, I'd rather take a risk and see how this season plays out

dtmagnet
07-06-2013, 03:44 PM
Should trade Monroe for Gay and Lowry if they're going all in this season.

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:44 PM
If they can land a nice pg for Monroe, i will than like this signing. There has already been Rondo rumors..maybe Dragic/filler?
Also, do they still believe in Stuckey? Especially now with Knight/Pope

I'd take rondo for Monroe straight up.

Stuckey plays selfishly. He has no shot. So in the end he's worthless. Guards who can't shoot are not worth having

bucketss
07-06-2013, 03:45 PM
We need a point guard

rudy gay lowry for a package starting with knight and your first rounder, how does that sound?

WARRIORS@GR
07-06-2013, 03:47 PM
I'd take rondo for Monroe straight up.

Guards who can't shoot are not worth having
Huh?

StriveGreatness
07-06-2013, 03:49 PM
rudy gay lowry for a package starting with knight and your first rounder, how does that sound?

Terrible

Mainly 'cause I hate Rudy Gay's game.

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:49 PM
Honestly joe dumars doesn't have to trade anyone. If he's bringing in gary Neal, RIP, and Chauncey then pistons will be an elite team this year

rocket
07-06-2013, 03:50 PM
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rocket
07-06-2013, 03:50 PM
Honestly joe dumars doesn't have to trade anyone. If he's bringing in gary Neal, RIP, and Chauncey then pistons will be an elite team this year

calm down mayo were not close to elite

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:50 PM
Huh?

Stuckey can't shoot, can't make plays, can't pass, can't do anything

abe_froman
07-06-2013, 03:51 PM
If they can land a nice pg for Monroe, i will than like this signing. There has already been Rondo rumors..maybe Dragic/filler?
Also, do they still believe in Stuckey? Especially now with Knight/Pope
nash for monroe? he's old but still great set up man and shooter,and with that line up of det they need both ,lakers need youth and to rebuild,monroe is a good starting point

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:52 PM
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HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:53 PM
calm down mayo were not close to elite

Chauncey/knight/siva
Rip/Kcp/gary neal/stuckey
Smith/singler/Middleton
Monroe /cv/tony michell
Drummond/slava

Sick

PAOboston
07-06-2013, 03:53 PM
rondo to the pistons next! book it! lol

RipCity32
07-06-2013, 03:53 PM
God I hope Dumars is not dumb enough to trade Drummond instead of Monroe.

WARRIORS@GR
07-06-2013, 03:54 PM
nash for monroe? he's old but still great set up man and shooter,and with that line up of det they need both ,lakers need youth and to rebuild,monroe is a good starting point
That would be qualified for worst trade of all time.
Monroe>>>>>>>>>>40 yrs old banged up Nash and his 2 years contract.come on man.

OceanSpray
07-06-2013, 03:55 PM
rockets probably will trade for ryan andersen which is IMO the better option.

Smith>Anderson. You can always find good three pointers, there are a lot out there. Smith is a very well rounded player. He can block shots, rebound, score, pass, and defend. I'd rather have Smith but Anderson is a great fit as well. Not to mention Smith+Howard have a great relationship.

ManRam
07-06-2013, 03:56 PM
rondooooooooo

they could use a perimeter scoring threat more than a scoring-deficient PG.

but it obviously wouldn't hurt

Gators123
07-06-2013, 03:56 PM
Just read Smith posted a 15 PER at SF, but held opposing SF's to a PER of 8. I can live with that..

FOXHOUND
07-06-2013, 03:57 PM
Next Dumars is going to trade Monroe or Drummond for Rondo.

:facepalm::facepalm:

I hope it's Monroe at least, for Pistons fans sake. What an awful signing.

bucketss
07-06-2013, 03:57 PM
Terrible

Mainly 'cause I hate Rudy Gay's game.

he becomes an expiring though for next year, i think its a solid deal, but you guys will need a go to player in close game and no one on the team currently can even dribble the ball properly including knight lol.(just kidding but knights handle looks suspect at times)

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 03:57 PM
knight 2016 pick singler jerebko stuckey should be enough for rondo right??

NYMetros
07-06-2013, 03:58 PM
knight 2016 pick singler jerebko stuckey should be enough for rondo right??

It'd have to be a package centered around Monroe.

mgsports
07-06-2013, 03:59 PM
Rondo is not being Traded. Why would 2 former Pistions want to come could just sign Nate Robinson or Collison r so on. Aaron Affalo for Drummond or Monroe and Stuckley?

bucketss
07-06-2013, 03:59 PM
Smith>Anderson. You can always find good three pointers, there are a lot out there. Smith is a very well rounded player. He can block shots, rebound, score, pass, and defend. I'd rather have Smith but Anderson is a great fit as well. Not to mention Smith+Howard have a great relationship.

hes better, but with dwight a stretch four like ryan, especially one that isn't soft and can actually rebound would be ideal.

bucketss
07-06-2013, 04:00 PM
knight 2016 pick singler jerebko stuckey should be enough for rondo right??

llol what, try monroe and maybe they will accept. maybe.

WARRIORS@GR
07-06-2013, 04:00 PM
God I hope Dumars is not dumb enough to trade Drummond instead of Monroe.Monroe>Drummond

jp611
07-06-2013, 04:02 PM
Dumars :laugh2:

How does he still have a job?

OceanSpray
07-06-2013, 04:02 PM
Monroe>Drummond

That's for now. Drummond is only 19.. He has potential to be the best center.

KB24PG16
07-06-2013, 04:02 PM
money over everything

Sinestro
07-06-2013, 04:03 PM
I like the Lowry/Gay trade for Monroe or Drummond if the Raptors are looking to tank. Detroit would have much better lineup if that were the case.

Lowry, Gay, Smith, Drummond/Monroe in the East is probably a 5-8 seed which is good if making the playoffs is a goal.

KB24PG16
07-06-2013, 04:04 PM
pistons shouldve gone after iggy if they wanted a sf. smith is 27 and iggy is 29 the age difference isnt that big either. 4 years 48 mil for iggy is better than 4 years 56 for smith imo

StriveGreatness
07-06-2013, 04:04 PM
pistons shouldve gone after iggy if they wanted a sf. smith is 27 and iggy is 29 the age difference isnt that big either

They did go after him dude.

HotMayo
07-06-2013, 04:05 PM
Dumars :laugh2:

How does he still have a job?

45,000 posts holy **** what do you do all day :laugh2:

Deception
07-06-2013, 04:06 PM
Monroe for Barnes.

Knight
KCP
Barnes
Smith
Drummond

Curry
Thompson
Iggy
Monroe
Bogut

TheNumber37
07-06-2013, 04:09 PM
This actually helps the Rockets because they don't have to pay for a player at that price range.
Rockets better make a run at Jeff Green.

topdog
07-06-2013, 04:10 PM
Dumars and cap space is like a teenage girl with a credit card. He hasn't even fully paid off the bill for Villanueva yet.

FOXHOUND
07-06-2013, 04:11 PM
This actually helps the Rockets because they don't have to pay for a player at that price range.
Rockets better make a run at Jeff Green.

:eyebrow:

Don't know why you think that would even be possible.

PAOboston
07-06-2013, 04:12 PM
This actually helps the Rockets because they don't have to pay for a player at that price range.
Rockets better make a run at Jeff Green.
Why would the Rockets want Jeff Green??? They have Chandler Parsons at SF.

WARRIORS@GR
07-06-2013, 04:18 PM
That's for now. Drummond is only 19.. He has potential to be the best center.no doubt he has unlimited potential.not only that,he is already preety good and ready to start.

But if you are getting rondo and smith,you are trying to be a contender,at least for a playoff spot.

I doubt rondo-smith-drummond is good enough to be considered more than a 6-10 seed and 1st round exit for the next 2-3 years.

Monroe is better if they want to win soon.

rocket
07-06-2013, 04:21 PM
no doubt he has unlimited potential.not only that,he is already preety good and ready to start.

But if you are getting rondo and smith,you are trying to be a contender,at least for a playoff spot.

I doubt rondo-smith-drummond is good enough to be considered more than a 6-10 seed and 1st round exit for the next 2-3 years.

Monroe is better if they want to win soon.

Drummond > Monroe

ManRam
07-06-2013, 04:23 PM
there shouldn't be any debate as to who to trade if they decide to trade someone. monroe goes, drummond stays. it shouldn't even be a debate.

but dumars...who knows

jp611
07-06-2013, 04:24 PM
45,000 posts holy **** what do you do all day :laugh2:

Work overnights, post pad in GTs, live in Iowa :sigh:

WhiteSoxGod
07-06-2013, 04:24 PM
hes better, but with dwight a stretch four like ryan, especially one that isn't soft and can actually rebound would be ideal.

Exactly, the Rockets need perimeter shooters. And as you said a rebounder would be ideal next to Dwight.

J4KOP99
07-06-2013, 04:25 PM
Poor Detroit. J smoove is a *******

J4KOP99
07-06-2013, 04:25 PM
Exactly, the Rockets need perimeter shooters. And as you said a rebounder would be ideal next to Dwight.

Yeah rocket fans should be letting out a sigh of relief. I felt like a smith and Howard front court would have been awful.

WARRIORS@GR
07-06-2013, 04:29 PM
Drummond > Monroe
Drummond potential>Monroe.

But if you're saying Drummond>Monroe for the next couple years you are crazy.

Avenged
07-06-2013, 04:31 PM
And the Rockets should be thankful.. You don't need a Smith type player offensively when Dwight is there.

Good move by the Pistons though since they've been bad for a couple years down so getting Smith is the right choice. Now they need to add some shooters to really try and get into the playoffs.

ManRam
07-06-2013, 04:33 PM
Drummond potential>Monroe.

But if you're saying Drummond>Monroe for the next couple years you are crazy.

still worth holding on to that potential more.

drummond will score a tick less per 36 minutes, and just won't be the scorer monroe is at all, but he's superior in every other facet.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 04:35 PM
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Tmath
07-06-2013, 04:35 PM
If Detroit get Rondo, they might be worst shooting team ever. They will be sick defensively though.

Deception
07-06-2013, 04:39 PM
If Detroit get Rondo, they might be worst shooting team ever. They will be sick defensively though.

Pistons already proved defense wins championships so I am not worried if this were the case, grabbing Rondo seems like a long shot but who knows.

DR_1
07-06-2013, 04:40 PM
45,000 posts holy **** what do you do all day :laugh2:

Be awesome. You wish you were as cool as jpro.

FOXHOUND
07-06-2013, 04:40 PM
I still can't get over how Dumars didn't learn from 09. This team was in rebuild mode, and actually looking on a pretty good track after the past three drafts. But they cancel the rebuild for... Josh Smith? Yikes.

FOBolous
07-06-2013, 04:42 PM
Don't Detroit have young, talented PF and C already? Why do they need smith? And why did smith go to Detroit? What can he gain there?

FOXHOUND
07-06-2013, 04:43 PM
Don't Detroit have young, talented PF and C already? Why do they need smith? And why did smith go to Detroit? What can he gain there?

He can gain $56M.

jp611
07-06-2013, 04:49 PM
Rondo is not good defensively... When will people get over that myth

Steals does not equal good defensive player

astonmartin10
07-06-2013, 04:49 PM
They should have gone with Drummond and Monroe front court. They need time to delevop together

topdog
07-06-2013, 04:51 PM
Pistons already proved defense wins championships so I am not worried if this were the case, grabbing Rondo seems like a long shot but who knows.

...and they had prime Chauncey Billups and Rip along with stretch 4 Rasheed. Defense is great, but you can't win without scoring points and a lack of floor spacing on offense improves the opponent's defense.

More-Than-Most
07-06-2013, 04:51 PM
Work overnights, post pad in GTs, live in Iowa :sigh:

45k posts is rediculous for anyone :D

ManRam
07-06-2013, 04:52 PM
Rondo is not good defensively... When will people get over that myth

Steals does not equal good defensive player

He's good, he's just not elite. There is value to getting in the passing lanes like he does and he does a good job keeping his opponents in front of him. People do get carried away, but he's certainly "good". Well, I say "good" because I assume the alternative is "bad".


And I got your VM. I'm not ignoring you...I just can't respond. :(

kjoke
07-06-2013, 04:52 PM
1. I still wouldn't live in Detroit even if you give me 56 millions

2. How can you say that Drummond would be better than Monroe. I much rather have Monroe, Drummond reminds me too much of DeAndre

ManRam
07-06-2013, 04:52 PM
45k posts is rediculous for anyone :D

45K. I can't even imagine what that's like.....

jp611
07-06-2013, 05:04 PM
He's good, he's just not elite. There is value to getting in the passing lanes like he does and he does a good job keeping his opponents in front of him. People do get carried away, but he's certainly "good". Well, I say "good" because I assume the alternative is "bad".


And I got your VM. I'm not ignoring you...I just can't respond. :(

I guess I should have worded that better... You worded it exactly right for me though

rocket
07-06-2013, 05:08 PM
1. I still wouldn't live in Detroit even if you give me 56 millions

2. How can you say that Drummond would be better than Monroe. I much rather have Monroe, Drummond reminds me too much of DeAndre

1. Yeah you would.
2. Pistons play in Auburn Hills which a great city.
3. If you think Drummond is going to be like DeAndre you don't understand basketball.

rocket
07-06-2013, 05:09 PM
Work overnights, post pad in GTs, live in Iowa :sigh:

:laugh2: ily

Deception
07-06-2013, 05:10 PM
...and they had prime Chauncey Billups and Rip along with stretch 4 Rasheed. Defense is great, but you can't win without scoring points and a lack of floor spacing on offense improves the opponent's defense.

You do realize these players were not considered in their prime when they came to Detroit, they thrived together and developed into the players they became. Was basically traded for used goods and a 1st rounder (That actually was used to select Josh Smith, but no one knows what would have happened, had the Pistons kept it). Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins for Grant Hill, Billups as a FA, Rip Hamilton and a few others for Jerry Stackhouse.

kjoke
07-06-2013, 05:16 PM
1. Yeah you would.
2. Pistons play in Auburn Hills which a great city.
3. If you think Drummond is going to be like DeAndre you don't understand basketball.

:laugh2: Ok I would, but I do not see Drummond being more important than Monroe

dtmagnet
07-06-2013, 05:20 PM
Pistons already proved defense wins championships so I am not worried if this were the case, grabbing Rondo seems like a long shot but who knows.

That was mostly Ben Wallace, plus Billups Rip and Rasheed could all hit the 3.

topdog
07-06-2013, 05:41 PM
You do realize these players were not considered in their prime when they came to Detroit, they thrived together and developed into the players they became. Was basically traded for used goods and a 1st rounder (That actually was used to select Josh Smith, but no one knows what would have happened, had the Pistons kept it). Ben Wallace and Chucky Atkins for Grant Hill, Billups as a FA, Rip Hamilton and a few others for Jerry Stackhouse.

My post had nothing to do with how a ragtag bunch of champions were assembled on their quest to get Darko his ring. My point is that Detroit did not employ defensive specialists without attention to shooting, but rather achieved success through team defense.

As far as prime, I am talking about Billups and Hamilton being around 26-27 (generally considered players' primes) when they made the championship runs and both shot fairly well from the floor. Add in Wallace as a career 33% volume 3pt shooter and Mehmet Okur - a 37.5% career 3pt shooting center and you have a team that is fairly good at spreading the floor.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
07-06-2013, 05:43 PM
I hope they get Rondo I love seeing bad teams get good again ...

I do see Celtics demanding drummond though and I see dumars doing it .... why would Celtics want Monroe? Think about it there is tank mode and drummond is perfect for there rebuild. ...

Such an exciting year to look forward too for us ball junkies so many new faces in new places

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
07-06-2013, 05:47 PM
Then maybe in 14 lebron joins lol

Rondo
Kcp
Lebron
Smith
Drummond or Monroe

Crazy talk I know

smiddy012
07-06-2013, 05:50 PM
There actually are nice places in Detroit... Namely parts of the suburbs.

KnickaBocka.44
07-06-2013, 05:54 PM
I dont see this working out for a number of reasons. If I'm right, they should try and move Smoove at the deadline. There are some teams he would fit well on but they dont have cap room.

BH-Sports
07-06-2013, 06:08 PM
I wouldn't want Josh Smith anywhere close to my team. I think Dumars made a mistake here. Could have waited till the next season when the FA pool is stacked. Even with the signing, they are nowhere near a championship team

Phenomenonsense
07-06-2013, 06:39 PM
Well, Pistons should have roughly 14 million next year in cap space as well.

hugepatsfan
07-06-2013, 06:44 PM
so confused. what does this mean for Monroe? Are they just gonna play Monroe at C and bring Drummond off the bench? That's a really good way to stunt the growth of a very promising young player. Really don't get this signing unless they have a trade lined up or something.

Trade Monroe to BOS for Josh Smith's close childhood friend that he's always wanted to play with... Rondo.

BlahaTRUTH
07-06-2013, 06:47 PM
I'm sick of people knocking this signing and saying "The 7th or 8th are the worst spots to be in" - "They are nowhere near a championship team" - "Teams should be tanking" - all total nonsense from idiots.

What is wrong with being a playoff team? Every team in the playoffs have a shot, no matter how small, of competing for an NBA championship. There is nothing shameful with being near the top half of the NBA.

Championship aspirations are great, however, things aren't always black and white - there aren't only two modes "tank" and "Contender". Bringing a winning basketball team back to the Palace is a good thing.

The Pistons are one of the most storied franchises in basketball. They were a dominate team in the NBA not too long ago, back when they were winning - the team had basically the best attendance in the league and sold out some absurd number of home games in a row. Having some excitement back to the Pistons is a good thing for Detroit and it's good for the NBA when there is competitive basketball from the Pistons.

The Pistons were recently I think second to last in NBA attendance and were a struggling team for too long. The signing of Josh Smith is going to put fans in the seats and the Pistons are most likely a playoff team now. This is a successful signing and good news for basketball fans.

Hearing people saying things like "if you're not contending you should be rebuilding." might be the dumbest thing I see constantly repeated on this forum and throughout the media. There is such thing as pride in your craft and pride for an organization and a winning season is an accomplishment in itself and so is making the playoffs.

I think Smith/Monroe/Drummond front court can work and I think telling Josh Smith he can play on the perimeter was a good reason along with fifty-six million others why he came here. Also, I feel Drummond is being slightly overhyped. He is still VERY RAW and a liability in meaningful minutes down the stretch since he can't shoot Free-throws. I think we'll see a lot of Smith/Monroe with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.

Monroe and Smith are two of the better passing forwards in the NBA. If KCP is the real deal and Knight can improve his outside shot and keep working on being a better PG. I think the Pistons can be a very exciting and competitive team to watch.

I think winning the central division is a very lofty but attainable goal for this team.

EDIT: IMO, Monroe being severely underrated on this forum. Smith underrated too. Pistons don't need to build a big three or a whatever bunk I keep reading. We just have to get to the playoffs and then hope to play great basketball and make a run. Watch your necks Eastern Conference.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 06:51 PM
I'm sick of people knocking this signing and saying "The 7th or 8th are the worst spots to be in" - "They are nowhere near a championship team" - "Teams should be tanking" - all total nonsense from idiots.

What is wrong with being a playoff team? Every team in the playoffs have a shot, no matter how small, of competing for an NBA championship. There is nothing shameful with being near the top half of the NBA.

Championship aspirations are great, however, things aren't always black and white - there aren't only two modes "tank" and "Contender". Bringing a winning basketball team back to the Palace is a good thing.

The Pistons are one of the most storied franchises in basketball. They were a dominate team in the NBA not too long ago, back when they were winning - the team had basically the best attendance in the league and sold out some absurd number of home games in a row. Having some excitement back to the Pistons is a good thing for Detroit and it's good for the NBA when there is competitive basketball from the Pistons.

The Pistons were recently I think second to last in NBA attendance and were a struggling team for too long. The signing of Josh Smith is going to put fans in the seats and the Pistons are most likely a playoff team now. This is a successful signing and good news for basketball fans.

Hearing people saying things like "if you're not contending you should be rebuilding." might be the dumbest thing I see constantly repeated on this forum and throughout the media. There is such thing as pride in your craft and pride for an organization and a winning season is an accomplishment in itself and so is making the playoffs.

I think Smith/Monroe/Drummond front court can work and I think telling Josh Smith he can play on the perimeter was a good reason along with fifty-six million others why he came here. Also, I feel Drummond is being slightly overhyped. He is still VERY RAW and a liability in meaningful minutes down the stretch since he can't shoot Free-throws. I think we'll see a lot of Smith/Monroe with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.

Monroe and Smith are two of the better passing forwards in the NBA. If KCP is the real deal and Knight can improve his outside shot and keep working on being a better PG. I think the Pistons can be a very exciting and competitive team to watch.

I think winning the central division is a very lofty but attainable goal for this team.

Good post man.

bucketss
07-06-2013, 06:53 PM
Then maybe in 14 lebron joins lol

Rondo
Kcp
Lebron
Smith
Drummond or Monroe

Crazy talk I know

lol:facepalm:

JLynn943
07-06-2013, 06:58 PM
If this makes Monroe available, I'd love the Kings to be all over that.

bagwell368
07-06-2013, 07:42 PM
He's good, he's just not elite. There is value to getting in the passing lanes like he does and he does a good job keeping his opponents in front of him. People do get carried away, but he's certainly "good". Well, I say "good" because I assume the alternative is "bad".(

Rondo cheats off the ball all the time for steals in the passing lanes, he hasn't minded getting beat because he figures KG will clean up for him. Well KG is gone, and he can again slough off when he gets to Detroit.

jam
07-06-2013, 07:44 PM
Props. Josh Smith wants to win a championship.


Oh wait.

ThuglifeJ
07-06-2013, 07:48 PM
Am I the only one completely shocked he didn't sign to Houston? I thought him and Dwight were buds and it seems like it made a ton more sense..

Shocked but good to see it, rooting for Pistons to be relevant again like the good days


also I fully agree with the guy saying it's not 'Contend or Tank'. That is stupid. Who wants to sign with a team that just tanks when they arent a championship calibur team? Tanking is only the answer if you are already a bottom 5 team in the league and want a better lottery ball chance.. Teams that are 7 seeds or w.e are intriguing because they are underdogs, have some good players that fans root for even from other teams. You can always stay competitive at a 7 seed or w.e and make some moves rather tank and make a move in draft.
Only team that I go against my thoughts of that is with the Hawks. They constantly stayed as a first or second round exit for years and never made any moves that made a difference.

bagwell368
07-06-2013, 07:51 PM
Pistons already proved defense wins championships so I am not worried if this were the case, grabbing Rondo seems like a long shot but who knows.

I'll move Rondo.

Rondo and a 1st in 2014-2016 (Celts choice), Celts '16 2nd rounder
for
Monroe & Stuckey for Pistons '18 1st (bottom 5 protected) and Pistons #1 in '14-16 (Celts choice) bottom 5 protected.

That trade of picks might end up being something like a #25 for a #17, but Celts taking back Stuckey is worth it for the Pistons, not to mention a PG to keep Smith and the team happy.

kenzo400
07-06-2013, 08:12 PM
I'm sick of people knocking this signing and saying "The 7th or 8th are the worst spots to be in" - "They are nowhere near a championship team" - "Teams should be tanking" - all total nonsense from idiots.

What is wrong with being a playoff team? Every team in the playoffs have a shot, no matter how small, of competing for an NBA championship. There is nothing shameful with being near the top half of the NBA.

Championship aspirations are great, however, things aren't always black and white - there aren't only two modes "tank" and "Contender". Bringing a winning basketball team back to the Palace is a good thing.

The Pistons are one of the most storied franchises in basketball. They were a dominate team in the NBA not too long ago, back when they were winning - the team had basically the best attendance in the league and sold out some absurd number of home games in a row. Having some excitement back to the Pistons is a good thing for Detroit and it's good for the NBA when there is competitive basketball from the Pistons.

The Pistons were recently I think second to last in NBA attendance and were a struggling team for too long. The signing of Josh Smith is going to put fans in the seats and the Pistons are most likely a playoff team now. This is a successful signing and good news for basketball fans.

Hearing people saying things like "if you're not contending you should be rebuilding." might be the dumbest thing I see constantly repeated on this forum and throughout the media. There is such thing as pride in your craft and pride for an organization and a winning season is an accomplishment in itself and so is making the playoffs.

I think Smith/Monroe/Drummond front court can work and I think telling Josh Smith he can play on the perimeter was a good reason along with fifty-six million others why he came here. Also, I feel Drummond is being slightly overhyped. He is still VERY RAW and a liability in meaningful minutes down the stretch since he can't shoot Free-throws. I think we'll see a lot of Smith/Monroe with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.

Monroe and Smith are two of the better passing forwards in the NBA. If KCP is the real deal and Knight can improve his outside shot and keep working on being a better PG. I think the Pistons can be a very exciting and competitive team to watch.

I think winning the central division is a very lofty but attainable goal for this team.

EDIT: IMO, Monroe being severely underrated on this forum. Smith underrated too. Pistons don't need to build a big three or a whatever bunk I keep reading. We just have to get to the playoffs and then hope to play great basketball and make a run. Watch your necks Eastern Conference.


Pride for being a treadmill team?

Aust
07-06-2013, 08:33 PM
All I can say is Congrats Rocket fans! You guys dodged a bullet :clap:

dolfan720
07-06-2013, 08:40 PM
I'm sick of people knocking this signing and saying "The 7th or 8th are the worst spots to be in" - "They are nowhere near a championship team" - "Teams should be tanking" - all total nonsense from idiots.

What is wrong with being a playoff team? Every team in the playoffs have a shot, no matter how small, of competing for an NBA championship. There is nothing shameful with being near the top half of the NBA.

Championship aspirations are great, however, things aren't always black and white - there aren't only two modes "tank" and "Contender". Bringing a winning basketball team back to the Palace is a good thing.

The Pistons are one of the most storied franchises in basketball. They were a dominate team in the NBA not too long ago, back when they were winning - the team had basically the best attendance in the league and sold out some absurd number of home games in a row. Having some excitement back to the Pistons is a good thing for Detroit and it's good for the NBA when there is competitive basketball from the Pistons.

The Pistons were recently I think second to last in NBA attendance and were a struggling team for too long. The signing of Josh Smith is going to put fans in the seats and the Pistons are most likely a playoff team now. This is a successful signing and good news for basketball fans.

Hearing people saying things like "if you're not contending you should be rebuilding." might be the dumbest thing I see constantly repeated on this forum and throughout the media. There is such thing as pride in your craft and pride for an organization and a winning season is an accomplishment in itself and so is making the playoffs.

I think Smith/Monroe/Drummond front court can work and I think telling Josh Smith he can play on the perimeter was a good reason along with fifty-six million others why he came here. Also, I feel Drummond is being slightly overhyped. He is still VERY RAW and a liability in meaningful minutes down the stretch since he can't shoot Free-throws. I think we'll see a lot of Smith/Monroe with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.

Monroe and Smith are two of the better passing forwards in the NBA. If KCP is the real deal and Knight can improve his outside shot and keep working on being a better PG. I think the Pistons can be a very exciting and competitive team to watch.

I think winning the central division is a very lofty but attainable goal for this team.

EDIT: IMO, Monroe being severely underrated on this forum. Smith underrated too. Pistons don't need to build a big three or a whatever bunk I keep reading. We just have to get to the playoffs and then hope to play great basketball and make a run. Watch your necks Eastern Conference.

Excellent post man. I strongly agree with this, not only the parts in bold, but the whole thing. Good signing for the Pistons. Probably the 6th or 7th best team in the east

DetroitBadBoy
07-06-2013, 08:50 PM
What Dumar's has done is add a lot more talent to this team. Monroe and Drummond aren't the whole team. We got an all around star in Smith, he does it all. Defensively, this team is going to be very good.

Anyone who says "this is a terrible signing" doesn't know how to build a team. Smoove deserves the money he's earned.

Also, I know Rondo is still in Dumar's plans. This is not the end result of his off season plan.

smith&wesson
07-06-2013, 08:51 PM
Monroe for Gay

knight
kcp
gay
smith
drummond

Lakers Ghost
07-06-2013, 08:57 PM
good signing for piston I see him playing sf for the piston.:cool:

SeoulBeatz
07-06-2013, 09:13 PM
What a terrible signing. Dumars, in spite of his ineptitude, has the most promising frontcourt in the league and what does he do? Sign an inefficient and overpaid chucker that needs to steal minutes from his team's only source of real talent to be effective.


I don't get this move for J Smoove nor the Pistons.

Josh is 28 going on 29, these are his final/prime years in the NBA and he wants to spend them with a team that's nowhere near contending? Smith doesn't put the Pistons into contention, or even mediocrity for that matter.

And what are the Pistons going to do at the PF spot? Monroe or Drummond have to go now because J Smoove is not a SF, that much is absolutely clear.

I like the core they have in B Knight, KCP, Drummond, and Monroe, but this is not a team built for contending for at least the next 3 years or so and by that time Smith's contract will almost be up.

puzzling signing for both sides.

Gators123
07-06-2013, 09:16 PM
Smith is 27.

waveycrockett
07-06-2013, 09:18 PM
Smith is 27 but he has alot of mileage on those knees. Reminds me alot of Gerald Wallace who lost alot of his athleticism by just 30.

waveycrockett
07-06-2013, 09:19 PM
I will give the pistson credit if they manage to get Rondo from Boston that is going to be a very dangerous team. If Drummonds takes the next stop they easily have a top-5 Front Court.

FriedTofuz
07-06-2013, 09:54 PM
josh smith cant play SF properly, he's a PF.

rocket
07-06-2013, 10:19 PM
:laugh2: Ok I would, but I do not see Drummond being more important than Monroe

He will be better than him after this year. Trust me I actually watch the Pistons play.

waveycrockett
07-06-2013, 10:38 PM
He will be better than him after this year. Trust me I actually watch the Pistons play.
Monroe has one of the most polished games as a big man in the NBA. Drummond has a long way to go to be that good.

RipCity32
07-06-2013, 10:47 PM
Monroe has one of the most polished games as a big man in the NBA. Drummond has a long way to go to be that good.

Not really that polished.Hes more of a under the basket and put back big.His mid range game still isn't there and defense and athleticism are almost non existent.Not to bash my own guy or anything because I love him and think Hes a great player but Drummonds defensive instincts along with speed and athleticism is way more promising.Drummond is by far the better prospect were like you said Monroe is more polished on the offensive end.

rocket
07-06-2013, 10:53 PM
I'm sick of people knocking this signing and saying "The 7th or 8th are the worst spots to be in" - "They are nowhere near a championship team" - "Teams should be tanking" - all total nonsense from idiots.

What is wrong with being a playoff team? Every team in the playoffs have a shot, no matter how small, of competing for an NBA championship. There is nothing shameful with being near the top half of the NBA.

Championship aspirations are great, however, things aren't always black and white - there aren't only two modes "tank" and "Contender". Bringing a winning basketball team back to the Palace is a good thing.

The Pistons are one of the most storied franchises in basketball. They were a dominate team in the NBA not too long ago, back when they were winning - the team had basically the best attendance in the league and sold out some absurd number of home games in a row. Having some excitement back to the Pistons is a good thing for Detroit and it's good for the NBA when there is competitive basketball from the Pistons.

The Pistons were recently I think second to last in NBA attendance and were a struggling team for too long. The signing of Josh Smith is going to put fans in the seats and the Pistons are most likely a playoff team now. This is a successful signing and good news for basketball fans.

Hearing people saying things like "if you're not contending you should be rebuilding." might be the dumbest thing I see constantly repeated on this forum and throughout the media. There is such thing as pride in your craft and pride for an organization and a winning season is an accomplishment in itself and so is making the playoffs.

I think Smith/Monroe/Drummond front court can work and I think telling Josh Smith he can play on the perimeter was a good reason along with fifty-six million others why he came here. Also, I feel Drummond is being slightly overhyped. He is still VERY RAW and a liability in meaningful minutes down the stretch since he can't shoot Free-throws. I think we'll see a lot of Smith/Monroe with a bunch of shooters surrounding them.

Monroe and Smith are two of the better passing forwards in the NBA. If KCP is the real deal and Knight can improve his outside shot and keep working on being a better PG. I think the Pistons can be a very exciting and competitive team to watch.

I think winning the central division is a very lofty but attainable goal for this team.

EDIT: IMO, Monroe being severely underrated on this forum. Smith underrated too. Pistons don't need to build a big three or a whatever bunk I keep reading. We just have to get to the playoffs and then hope to play great basketball and make a run. Watch your necks Eastern Conference.

Thank you man. People are just stupid. You can't ****ing wait to become competitive.

Bulls_fan90
07-06-2013, 10:54 PM
I'm a little confused why so many Pistons fans are wanting to move Monroe. From what I've seen the kid is a beast. I honestly would rather keep Monroe than have Josh Smith.

I guess I'll have to wait and see what other moves they're going to make before commenting on this move.

Tony_Starks
07-06-2013, 10:56 PM
Good look for Detroit. Smoove still has a lot of game left in him, and you can never have too many good bigs.

naps
07-06-2013, 11:30 PM
Such an awful pick up for Detroit. They have arguably the finest young front-court in the league. This trade is going to either stunt the growth of one of them or trade one of them which will be a terrible decision as well. They should have picked up Iggy when he was available. He would be a perfect fit there. But I expect these from Dumars. Lord knows how he still holds that job.

rocket
07-06-2013, 11:37 PM
Such an awful pick up for Detroit. They have arguably the finest young front-court in the league. This trade is going to either stunt the growth of one of them or trade one of them which will be a terrible decision as well. They should have picked up Iggy when he was available. He would be a perfect fit there. But I expect these from Dumars. Lord knows how he still holds that job.

Yeah man he didn't try and get Iggy or anything

Aust
07-06-2013, 11:43 PM
Pau for Greg! Make it happen Mitch!



:hide:

IversonIsKrazy
07-07-2013, 02:11 AM
Joe Dumars should have honestly been fired back in 2009. They were saving up money for 2010 FAgency, and he blew all his $$$$ on Ben Gordon & CHarlie V the season before. And now, finally with one of the most promising front-courts, they sign J-Smoove. He will start SF for 1 month, until they realize he is a PF. And then Drummond will play off the bench, hindering his improvement. Such an idiotic GM.

JWO35
07-07-2013, 07:49 AM
Monroe for Gay

knight
kcp
gay
smith
drummond
lol No :laugh:
Gay was our Plan B, Detroit ain't calling Toronto anymore especially with that trade.

chiprock61
07-07-2013, 09:06 AM
I Understand Why People Are Upset About Smith, But Joe Had To Make A Move. Iggy Was Gone, The Trade With Toronto Fell Through, What Other Impact Move Was There To Realistically Make? Smith Has His Issues No Doubt, BuT He's An Elite athlete And Can Play SF And PF. Other Than The Poor Shooting, Why Couldn't He Play SF? He's Already A Smaller PF As It Is. I Just Don't Get Why People Think He Can't Play SF, Shooting Aside.

MonroeFAN
07-07-2013, 09:21 AM
Mmm, wasn't expecting people to be bad mouthing this sign. He was the 3rd best free agent in the class, and we're a young team that needed talent. I don't care what position it came in as.

Expect more moves from Joe, he knows this roster is a little top heavy at the moment.

KingOf215
07-07-2013, 10:48 AM
Really seems like Dumars made a move just for the sake of making a move. Since they had the money to throw around, so be it. Think he's trying to exit Detroit with a few more wins under his belt.

ManRam
07-07-2013, 10:53 AM
i've slept on it. i went from being "meh" about it to really not liking it for the pistons. it just makes little sense. i did figure there would be ancillary moves, and there will be, but still. why smith? it's just a weird move, and a completely lateral one IMO, which is bad when you're throwing shittons of money out there at him

Gators123
07-07-2013, 11:11 AM
I don't see it as a lateral move at all. He gives us much more talent. Offensively we will definitely see problems at times, but defensively we can improve a ton.

Dumars has to put a playoff team on the court next season or hes gone. His contract is up next season. We still have cap space and large expiring contracts. Dumars isn't done yet.

And Smith is actually getting $54M, not the $56M that was first reported. He made $13.2M last season. His average salary will be $13.5 with the Pistons. Not a bad contract.

Cali4rnia
07-07-2013, 08:03 PM
Chauncey/knight/siva
Rip/Kcp/gary neal/stuckey
Smith/singler/Middleton
Monroe /cv/tony michell
Drummond/slava

Sick

Chauncey's days are numbered.

b@llhog24
07-08-2013, 01:50 AM
Worst signing in this free agency period. Which is an impressive feat on it's own.