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Fresno
06-27-2013, 07:32 PM
Houston is trying to dump Jeremy Lin's salary, going so far as to prioritise cap relief over young basketball assets.


Another significant factor in play re: Rockets trying to move Lin - Patrick Beverley is better, and they know it.



Lin is an absolute cash cow for any team that acquires him, for at least one year. But the big salary hike is coming, & it prohibits Dwight.

http://twitter.com/MarkDeeksNBA

This might be the big name that gets moved tonight.

TrueFan420
06-27-2013, 07:34 PM
Should have never signed him

4milesperday
06-27-2013, 07:37 PM
"Patrick Beverly is better" LMAO

FraziersKnicks
06-27-2013, 07:44 PM
:laugh2:

Check the sig

D-Leethal
06-27-2013, 07:46 PM
That lasted long. He's not a good fit at all with Harden.

Litchris12
06-27-2013, 07:46 PM
Hahahaha he sucks Houston got screwed

sep11ie
06-27-2013, 07:51 PM
Hahahaha he sucks Houston got screwed

Hahahaha, AMARE.

Mr.Bean
06-27-2013, 07:52 PM
Jeremy Lin is a big name?LMAO

LAKobeBryant
06-27-2013, 07:54 PM
Can you imagine Lin getting dropped to the dleague

mgsports
06-27-2013, 08:06 PM
To Utah?

Blitzace137
06-27-2013, 08:11 PM
Trade him back to NY lol. Lin should have never went back to the team that cut him in the first place. He got his money though.

Blitzace137
06-27-2013, 08:21 PM
That lasted long. He's not a good fit at all with Harden.

Agreed both are ball dominant. Lin will probably be better off in a team where he has the ball in his hands more than he did in Houston.

sep11ie
06-27-2013, 08:22 PM
Can you imagine Lin getting dropped to the dleague

Or if Steve Nash did.

LAKobeBryant
06-27-2013, 08:25 PM
Or if Steve Nash did.

lmao are you that sensitive?
i apologize if i hurt your feelings =/

sep11ie
06-27-2013, 08:26 PM
lmao are you that sensitive?
i apologize if i hurt your feedings =/

You didn't. I was joking. I hope we do unload Lin. I'm not Linsane.

FOBolous
06-27-2013, 08:28 PM
i guess Houston's bad reputation among players of not caring about their players is well deserved. every off-season, the Rockets trade a fan favorite....this bad reputation is EXACTLY why Free Agents are having second thoughts about signing with us cause Houston will drop them...just like that. doesn't matter how hard they work, how well they play, or how much the fans like them...the Rockets organization will drop them without a second thought if something that looks better comes along.

and really, Patrick Beverley only played well for in 4 games. if saying he's "better" and is a "good" player based solely on those 4 games isn't jumping the gun, then i don't know what is. and people say Lin fans are getting ahead of themselves after 11 games. and it's not like Lin didn't have good games after that 11 games "Linsanity" stretch. i will be so angry if Beverley "flops" and Lin goes somewhere else and excels. dude seriously cannot catch a break...he gained haters who are rooting to him to fail as fast as he gained fans during his "Linsanity" stretch.

jam
06-27-2013, 08:37 PM
insert mj popcorn gif here, lol

setman2000
06-27-2013, 09:11 PM
Nobody is taking Lin and that salary unless Houston sweetens the deal. Remember Melo's reaction when he found out how much Houston paid him? He should have stayed in NY.

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 09:17 PM
They should just say the truth.

"We're probably going to build a super team w/ CP3 and Dwight w/ Harden"

jam
06-27-2013, 09:19 PM
That's just idiotic. No one is dumb enough to turn down an extra $10 mil guaranteed.

The CAA mafia, and their drugged out henchman JR Smith would've frozen him out and run him out of town one way or another even if he had stayed.


Nobody is taking Lin and that salary unless Houston sweetens the deal. Remember Melo's reaction when he found out how much Houston paid him? He should have stayed in NY.

Marques24kobe
06-27-2013, 09:27 PM
I thought Linsanity was one of the reasons D12 would want to go to the Rockets?

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 09:37 PM
I thought Linsanity was one of the reasons D12 would want to go to the Rockets?

nope. He's been behind scenes said to be trying to get him and CP3 on another team to create a superpower core.

Tony_Starks
06-27-2013, 09:39 PM
Shocker... Good luck with that, he's overpaid hot garbage!

jam
06-27-2013, 09:44 PM
And yet you were manually stimulating yourself during the linsanity run. :)

You still mad!


Shocker... Good luck with that, he's overpaid hot garbage!

DreamShaker
06-27-2013, 10:11 PM
If Golden State wants him back, they can trade Curry for him. I would be good with that.

IndiansFan337
06-27-2013, 10:32 PM
They're not going to be able to move him for anything that makes their team better.

FYL_McVeezy
06-27-2013, 10:39 PM
That's just idiotic. No one is dumb enough to turn down an extra $10 mil guaranteed.

The CAA mafia, and their drugged out henchman JR Smith would've frozen him out and run him out of town one way or another even if he had stayed.

Now we're talking!

ManningToTyree
06-27-2013, 11:18 PM
Hahahahahahaha they deserve it for giving him all that money at the last second to screw the Knicks. Good luck finding a suitor.

RiceOnTheRun
06-27-2013, 11:33 PM
Hahahaha, AMARE.

LOL

...

That's cold bruh :sad2:

RiceOnTheRun
06-27-2013, 11:37 PM
Chris Humphries has a year left on his 2 year 24m deal.

Gerald Wallace has three years left on a 4 year 40m deal.

Jeremy Lin has 2 years (20m) left on his 3 year 25m deal.

I'd say he's the lesser of three bad deals because of potential. I think at what the Knicks were ready to offer hi, ~4m a year, he would've been a pretty solid guy to keep. Teammates liked him, NY loved him, I would've been fine with that. Kinda hard to move him when he has that 15m second year though.

Asik's better
06-27-2013, 11:38 PM
Hold on, call me ingorent but who is Mark Deeks and why is he a credible source?

0nekhmer
06-27-2013, 11:39 PM
Perfect. Andrea bargnani hot garbage for linsanity hot garbage.

Chrisclover
06-27-2013, 11:59 PM
:p
I thought Linsanity was one of the reasons D12 would want to go to the Rockets?

Pistol_Pete
06-28-2013, 12:15 AM
Good luck trying to move this contract. It only gets worse the longer it goes. They have to know they're stuck with him at this point.

Tony_Starks
06-28-2013, 12:42 AM
And yet you were manually stimulating yourself during the linsanity run. :)

You still mad!

A) I'm a Laker fan.
B) I've ways said Lin was hot garbage.


C) whatever you're smoking please send me some because it must be good.

smith&wesson
06-28-2013, 12:53 AM
Lin for bargnani

smith&wesson
06-28-2013, 12:54 AM
Perfect. Andrea bargnani hot garbage for linsanity hot garbage.

+1

smith&wesson
06-28-2013, 12:54 AM
Perfect. Andrea bargnani hot garbage for linsanity hot garbage.

+1

rockets-fan
06-28-2013, 12:55 AM
Good luck trying to move this contract. It only gets worse the longer it goes. They have to know they're stuck with him at this point.

A year later and people still dont know how Lin and Asiks contracts work.
They are a cap hit of $8.3 a year. So how exactly does it get worse the longer it goes?

Guppyfighter
06-28-2013, 12:56 AM
A) I'm a Laker fan.
B) I've ways said Lin was hot garbage.


C) whatever you're smoking please send me some because it must be good.

Lin is not garbage. He is average.

Jarvo
06-28-2013, 12:57 AM
Hated Harden for how much he flopped in the 2012 WCF, I dislike CP3 & Howard and all they need is Ray Allen and I would really hate The Rockets lol but hey If CP3, Howard & Harden do form a team can't even be mad at that.

Lakers Ghost
06-28-2013, 12:59 AM
good luck

Crackadalic
06-28-2013, 01:01 AM
Trade him to the C's for the lulz

Greg.
06-28-2013, 01:14 AM
Jeremy Lin's contract:
Year 1: $8,374,646
Year 2: $8,374,646
Year 3: $8,374,646
Where exactly does this contract get worse?

Tony_Starks
06-28-2013, 01:28 AM
Lin is not garbage. He is average.

Ok he's not garbage. He puts up respectable Smush Parker numbers for 9 milli a year.

Nobody wants that. You can get a no name pg to put up his kind of ho hum numbers for a third of his salary...

TheNumber37
06-28-2013, 01:36 AM
Hahahaha, AMARE.

Amare> Lin

Even during linsanity

Purple_n_Gold
06-28-2013, 01:37 AM
Good luck with that...

Jarvo
06-28-2013, 01:43 AM
Amare> Lin

Even during linsanity

Nahhh he had NY rocking.

BKLYNpigeon
06-28-2013, 02:02 AM
I dont think ANY team will want the last year of Lin's contract at 15 million dollars. HAHA.

Saddletramp
06-28-2013, 04:42 AM
^Jesus Christ, pay *******ingtention

IndyRealist
06-28-2013, 05:05 AM
nope. He's been behind scenes said to be trying to get him and CP3 on another team to create a superpower core.
Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

Jeremy Lin + Thomas Robinson + Royce White + future 1st to Indiana for Gerald Green + Ian Mahimni + $3M Cash. You take our problems, we take yours. Rockets would shave about $6M off their salary this coming year.

sep11ie
06-28-2013, 05:24 AM
Amare> Lin

Even during linsanity

k, keep telling yourself that.

lamzoka
06-28-2013, 12:37 PM
Jeremy Lin's contract:
Year 1: $8,374,646
Year 2: $8,374,646
Year 3: $8,374,646
Where exactly does this contract get worse?

wait a minute... i thought year 3 was like $15 millions.
what happened to the "poison pill"?

Snakeyestx
06-28-2013, 12:49 PM
I'm all for making a trade that both teams feel like they've gotten something.

Lin for Jarrett Jack.

San Fran gets their Chinatown marketing hero and potentially good PG, Houston gets a fairly solid PG in return for equal or less salary.

Kashmir13579
06-28-2013, 12:52 PM
Hahahaha, AMARE.


Or if Steve Nash did.

Why so bitter?

Can the Knicks have him back?

hugepatsfan
06-28-2013, 12:54 PM
Jeremy Lin's contract:
Year 1: $8,374,646
Year 2: $8,374,646
Year 3: $8,374,646
Where exactly does this contract get worse?

I think that's how it counts against the cap but I don't think that's actually how much money he gets. So while he will count that much against the cap for the next 2 seasons I think he actually gets paid with the huge leap in year 3 and that's what a trade partner would be responsible for actually paying. I could be wrong though.

VendettaRed07
06-28-2013, 12:56 PM
wait a minute... i thought year 3 was like $15 millions.
what happened to the "poison pill"?

only goes in effect we had matched the offer. lf we traded for him now we'd only pay 16 million not 20+ from what l understand

IndyRealist
06-28-2013, 01:05 PM
wait a minute... i thought year 3 was like $15 millions.
what happened to the "poison pill"?

The poison pill is what New York would have had to pay if they matched. Since they didn't, the cap hits for the $25M are spread evenly over the 3 years of the deal. That's the contract that would be traded.

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 01:11 PM
Why so bitter?

Can the Knicks have him back?

Novak and Camby for Lin get it done lol

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 01:16 PM
I'm all for making a trade that both teams feel like they've gotten something.

Lin for Jarrett Jack.

San Fran gets their Chinatown marketing hero and potentially good PG, Houston gets a fairly solid PG in return for equal or less salary.

This trade makes no sense for GS they already sell out most games and jack is better than Lin and a better fit. Lin will be a salary dump if they trade him I don't see Houston getting back equal value.

hugepatsfan
06-28-2013, 01:21 PM
The poison pill is what New York would have had to pay if they matched. Since they didn't, the cap hits for the $25M are spread evenly over the 3 years of the deal. That's the contract that would be traded.

The cap hits are spread out but what about actual payment? I always understood it as while it counts evenly for cap space calculations and trades his actual payment has the huge spike in year 3. So even though he counted 8.3 against HOU's cap last year he was only paid 5 million. The team trading for him would have those 8.3 cap charges each year but they actually have to pay him 5.2 mil this season and 14.9 the following.

That's at least how I understood it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

c.c.
06-28-2013, 01:41 PM
Sixers?

lamzoka
06-28-2013, 01:44 PM
The poison pill is what New York would have had to pay if they matched. Since they didn't, the cap hits for the $25M are spread evenly over the 3 years of the deal. That's the contract that would be traded.

ooh i see

Snakeyestx
06-28-2013, 01:55 PM
This trade makes no sense for GS they already sell out most games and jack is better than Lin and a better fit. Lin will be a salary dump if they trade him I don't see Houston getting back equal value.

This makes sense in a marketing sense... especially seeing as how SF has the biggest Chinatown population in the country.. that alone will bring millions of extra advertising dollars. Houston pulled this a few years back with Yao Ming.

blahblahyoutoo
06-28-2013, 04:33 PM
Lin is not garbage. He is average.

yup, he's average garbage.

Sportfan
06-28-2013, 04:45 PM
Lin Parsons Asik 2014 first for Rondo and Green

3RDASYSTEM
06-28-2013, 04:49 PM
i guess Houston's bad reputation among players of not caring about their players is well deserved. every off-season, the Rockets trade a fan favorite....this bad reputation is EXACTLY why Free Agents are having second thoughts about signing with us cause Houston will drop them...just like that. doesn't matter how hard they work, how well they play, or how much the fans like them...the Rockets organization will drop them without a second thought if something that looks better comes along.

and really, Patrick Beverley only played well for in 4 games. if saying he's "better" and is a "good" player based solely on those 4 games isn't jumping the gun, then i don't know what is. and people say Lin fans are getting ahead of themselves after 11 games. and it's not like Lin didn't have good games after that 11 games "Linsanity" stretch. i will be so angry if Beverley "flops" and Lin goes somewhere else and excels. dude seriously cannot catch a break...he gained haters who are rooting to him to fail as fast as he gained fans during his "Linsanity" stretch.

so basically it comes down to which d league player the fans of htown like better right? 11 game stretch and few good others vs 4 games, BEVERLY looks like a better player from my eye test

I mean damn who would you rather have, NATE ROBINSON or EARL BOYKINS? that's what this is basically, but neither lin nor bev are better individual players those those 2, especially BOYKINS who had killer game for his 5'5'' height and NATE can go a lil bit also

tr3ymill3r
06-28-2013, 04:52 PM
The twitter account this link is from is just a random guy spouting off with his opinions. There are no legs to this story and no facts behind it. Stop it guys, it's only 2 days away, just stop trolling.

knicksfan1969
06-28-2013, 04:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qbgobk4

Rockets need relief and years 3 and 4 are so bad for Lin.

Knicks given Rockets what they need for Harden / D12 / Parsons to work ......

3RDASYSTEM
06-28-2013, 04:58 PM
Lin is not garbage. He is average.

a d league player getting that much hype is closer to hot garbage than avg., he got a stuckey like contract so I don't know where you rank stuckey or how you rank/judge players but he's not better than stuckey and stuckey is pretty basic and pretty much hot garbage since dumars chose him over BILLUPS-IVERSON



being average and hot garbage is a basically the same, not much difference at all

Tony_Starks
06-28-2013, 04:59 PM
Lin puts up 13 and 6, his jumper is Rondo broke, and he couldn't defend my Uncle. For 8.something milli a year that's garbage. Hot garbage!

knicksfan1969
06-28-2013, 05:00 PM
yup, he's average garbage.

Funny b/c I remember a game or two this season Harden was not ball dominating and Lin put up huge numbers.

No one thinks he is great but he excels in PnR and finishes really well. A can imagine a few teams in need to that type of player including his ex-team.

Sandman
06-28-2013, 05:00 PM
Hahahaha, AMARE.

u mad? :eyebrow:

NYKNYGNYY
06-28-2013, 05:00 PM
Soooooooooooo glad we didnt sign him, thats why i want Houston to get Dwight they did us a favor by taking one for Lin

knicksfan1969
06-28-2013, 05:01 PM
Lin puts up 13 and 6, his jumper is Rondo broke, and he couldn't defend my Uncle. For 8.something milli a year that's garbage. Hot garbage!

His D is much better than folks says. Not just a little better but a lot.

Sandman
06-28-2013, 05:03 PM
Funny b/c I remember a game or two this season Harden was not ball dominating and Lin put up huge numbers.

No one thinks he is great but he excels in PnR and finishes really well. A can imagine a few teams in need to that type of player including his ex-team.
His contract thinks he is great

knicksfan1969
06-28-2013, 05:09 PM
His contract thinks he is great

And that is why you rape Houston so that way they can pursue D12 and others.

If I am the Knicks, I know Amare is off the books in two years when Lin's number goes up.

He can play PnR and is a decent defender. Lord knows he made Jeffiries and Chandler look respectable offensively.

Take Novak, Camby, QRich and other Filler ..... send to Houston and get Lin plus TRob and Montejunas.

Houston is going for broke and their core will be Parsons/Harden/D12 and whatever star they can get with what is left.

What the Knicks give them are role players to complement and guys who will be happy to go along the ride.

sep11ie
06-28-2013, 05:11 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qbgobk4

Rockets need relief and years 3 and 4 are so bad for Lin.

Knicks given Rockets what they need for Harden / D12 / Parsons to work ......

He only signed a 3 year deal

Crackadalic
06-28-2013, 05:13 PM
It kinda looks bad that lin isn't your best pg and makes the most. If any team trades for him will that 3rd year also go up I believe 15 mil or stay the same at 8

knicksfan1969
06-28-2013, 05:16 PM
He only signed a 3 year deal

I thought it was 2 and 2.

2 at 5
2 at 15

2012-13 $5
2013-14 $5
2014-15 $15
2015-16 $15

No one wants the last two years. That is why if I am Grunwald, I call and put aside this silly Dolan Ego thing.

At worst, the Knicks can pry Thomas Robinson away and likely a #1 for the deal. All Houston wants is smallish contracts back that it can easily move while those very same players can contribute to the D12/Harden/Parsons troika.

rr

sep11ie
06-28-2013, 05:20 PM
No, just 3 total years.

sep11ie
06-28-2013, 05:20 PM
It kinda looks bad that lin isn't your best pg and makes the most. If any team trades for him will that 3rd year also go up I believe 15 mil or stay the same at 8

Stays the same. The only team that would have had to pay that 15 million would have been the Knicks.

Sandman
06-28-2013, 05:23 PM
And that is why you rape Houston so that way they can pursue D12 and others.

If I am the Knicks, I know Amare is off the books in two years when Lin's number goes up.

He can play PnR and is a decent defender. Lord knows he made Jeffiries and Chandler look respectable offensively.

Take Novak, Camby, QRich and other Filler ..... send to Houston and get Lin plus TRob and Montejunas.

Houston is going for broke and their core will be Parsons/Harden/D12 and whatever star they can get with what is left.

What the Knicks give them are role players to complement and guys who will be happy to go along the ride.
Lins contract goes up next year, before Amare's contract is up.

and there's the fact that this guy isn't worth the money at all.

You clear Amare off the books just to throw 15m at this guy? nuts to that

sep11ie
06-28-2013, 05:29 PM
It's still only 8.3 against the cap dude.

rockets-fan
06-28-2013, 05:30 PM
People still don't understand Lins contract smh, I mean really now there's a fourth year outta no where??

8.3 8.3 8.3


That's the cap hit, stop saying the third year blows up. That was only for the Knicks if they had matched.

Sandman
06-28-2013, 05:32 PM
It's still only 8.3 against the cap dude.

not interested, its a lot. Esp since we got Felton at half the price.

knicksfan1969
06-28-2013, 05:55 PM
I guess I was hoping Lin had another year so he would be even a bigger headache for Houston. Too bad.

Either way, I still take Lin back if I can pick up TRob or Montejunas.

Knicks need youth, talent and stop thinking they have any chance of a title any time soon.

And while Felton is cheaper, he is not as good a PG as Lin. Felton can't pass off the dribble, his shooting is erratic and he has difficulty getting into the paint against smaller players.

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 06:32 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qbgobk4

Rockets need relief and years 3 and 4 are so bad for Lin.

Knicks given Rockets what they need for Harden / D12 / Parsons to work ......

year 2-3 is the same for Rockets 8 million but I'll take that trade lol. It helps us with a back-up PG we take back T.Rob Rockets get cap relief.

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 06:34 PM
His D is much better than folks says. Not just a little better but a lot.

HE struggles getting over screens his 1 on 1 D is pretty good.

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 06:39 PM
double post

IndyRealist
06-28-2013, 06:39 PM
The cap hits are spread out but what about actual payment? I always understood it as while it counts evenly for cap space calculations and trades his actual payment has the huge spike in year 3. So even though he counted 8.3 against HOU's cap last year he was only paid 5 million. The team trading for him would have those 8.3 cap charges each year but they actually have to pay him 5.2 mil this season and 14.9 the following.

That's at least how I understood it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No idea. I suspect if a team is absorbing his salary outright and would have to pay $20M instead of 16.6, that Houston would be sending cash along with Lin.

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 06:41 PM
not interested, its a lot. Esp since we got Felton at half the price.


So your good with Felton/Prigs over

Felton/Lin/Prigs? Your undervaluing what Lin brings to the table. If he keeps progressing he'll be better than Felton if he's already not better right now. Lin went from being overrated by some to underrated imo.

smith&wesson
06-28-2013, 06:41 PM
im so confused as to why the rockets didnt just sign dragic or lowry... either of those guys would have made for a solid back court with harden. they blew it. they arent getting anything of value for lin. just a bad contract in return.

rhino17
06-28-2013, 06:43 PM
im so confused as to why the rockets didnt just sign dragic or lowry... either of those guys would have made for a solid back court with harden. they blew it. they arent getting anything of value for lin. just a bad contract in return.

I think Dragic wanted an extra year, but he was worth it, he is a lot better than Lin. But screw Lowry, I don't want that crap on my team

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 06:44 PM
im so confused as to why the rockets didnt just sign dragic or lowry... either of those guys would have made for a solid back court with harden. they blew it. they arent getting anything of value for lin. just a bad contract in return.

They were to worried about reaping the benefits of Lins brand. They should have gave Dragic the extra year or $$$ he was asking for.

IndyRealist
06-28-2013, 06:46 PM
People still don't understand Lins contract smh, I mean really now there's a fourth year outta no where??

8.3 8.3 8.3


That's the cap hit, stop saying the third year blows up. That was only for the Knicks if they had matched.

Just goes to show which people
1) actually pay attention,
2) actually read the relatively short thread before commenting, and
3) actually understand the CBA.

sep11ie
06-28-2013, 06:57 PM
im so confused as to why the rockets didnt just sign dragic or lowry... either of those guys would have made for a solid back court with harden. they blew it. they arent getting anything of value for lin. just a bad contract in return.

Rockets passed on Dragic and Lowry and went with Lin because Harden wasn't even a wet dream yet. That trade came out of nowhere.

Greg.
06-28-2013, 06:59 PM
im so confused as to why the rockets didnt just sign dragic or lowry... either of those guys would have made for a solid back court with harden. they blew it. they arent getting anything of value for lin. just a bad contract in return.

I'm assuming the Rockets weren't expecting to get Harden in the offseason so they needed a player to come in and sell tickets. Dragic wouldn't and if we didn't trade Lowry, we don't have Harden. (We got Toronto's pick in the Lowry deal and I think that was one of the main reasons the Thunder made the deal) Dragic is better than Lin but, we were looking like a rebuilding team with no way to sell tickets so, Morey opted for the younger, potentially cash cow. And to whoever posted that trade with the Knicks, why would the Rockets do that? Are those contracts guaranteed? If not, The rockets are going to just give away 3 assets for $1m of cap space? Did I miss something? And I think everything about Lin's contract is 8.3. His cap number and what the team has to pay him but, I think owners/gm's care more about the cap number

sensei
06-28-2013, 07:24 PM
Lol at Knick fans and the negative comments toward the rockets. I can understand the bitterness but let's not act as if the Knicks have made great roster decisions. You guys should flex that negative muscle at your coaching staff not being able to maximize that vastly overpaid roster. Lin signing was partly due to talent and the other half marketability. They unexpectedly came across a Harden offer that made him expendable. It happens guys.

Sandman
06-28-2013, 08:07 PM
So your good with Felton/Prigs over

Felton/Lin/Prigs? Your undervaluing what Lin brings to the table. If he keeps progressing he'll be better than Felton if he's already not better right now. Lin went from being overrated by some to underrated imo.

Felton and Prigs for now, it made a little more sense w Kidd that could play both spots. Theres also Shump and THJr. without JR coming back, I think a lot of the G minutes are spoken for. Definitely dont need 8m for a Lin

I agree with a lot of what is being said, he merks the pick and roll, hustles off screens 25 yrs old... just dont see that being worth close to 8m. IMO the mle is even pushing it. He should be around JK and RF salary. Doesntmake sense to pay that guymore than JR Nate Terry and JCraw

kobe4thewinbang
06-28-2013, 08:23 PM
Trade him to Toronto.

RLundi
06-28-2013, 08:27 PM
I was never Linsane, never will be. He is strictly average.

bagwell368
06-28-2013, 08:50 PM
I'd deal Rondo - and say Bass or Lee for whatever bad contract they have for Lin and Brooks and the Rockets 2014, 2018 #1's, and 2015 and 2017 2nd's. High cost you say? You are getting a starting all star guard at his peak on a very good contract, and ridding yourself of a terrible contract in Lin, and maybe ridding yourself of secondary garbage too boot.

Blitzace137
06-28-2013, 09:05 PM
Felton and Prigs for now, it made a little more sense w Kidd that could play both spots. Theres also Shump and THJr. without JR coming back, I think a lot of the G minutes are spoken for. Definitely dont need 8m for a Lin

I agree with a lot of what is being said, he merks the pick and roll, hustles off screens 25 yrs old... just dont see that being worth close to 8m. IMO the mle is even pushing it. He should be around JK and RF salary. Doesntmake sense to pay that guymore than JR Nate Terry and JCraw

Pretty sure most teams knew at the time Lin was worth around 5-6 million. He was given the extra millions because of the market/brand he brings along. This guy single handedly got Cablevision and MSG sign a deal. The kid has a fan base equal to a lot of the NBA superstars he brings in money which is why he's a cash cow. If we could get T.Rob and Lin in a deal I would do it.

IndyRealist
06-28-2013, 09:08 PM
I was never Linsane, never will be. He is strictly average.

I think people just lack perspective. Getting an average NBA PG out of a guy who was undrafted is a steal. The advertising he brings in offsets his salary (I'm guessing). Is he a starter? It's borderline. But he's an NBA player, meaning every team passed on him in the 2nd round and should be kicking themselves (aside from New York, who drafted Landry Fields, and Indiana, who drafted Lance Stephenson).

Greg.
06-28-2013, 09:28 PM
I'd deal Rondo - and say Bass or Lee for whatever bad contract they have for Lin and Brooks and the Rockets 2014, 2018 #1's, and 2015 and 2017 2nd's. High cost you say? You are getting a starting all star guard at his peak on a very good contract, and ridding yourself of a terrible contract in Lin, and maybe ridding yourself of secondary garbage too boot.

No thanks. Rondo and Harden might be the worst 1/2 combo you could create chemistry wise and I have no source or anything for this but, Rondo doesn't seem to be a very good teammate

Sandman
06-28-2013, 10:08 PM
Pretty sure most teams knew at the time Lin was worth around 5-6 million. He was given the extra millions because of the market/brand he brings along. This guy single handedly got Cablevision and MSG sign a deal. The kid has a fan base equal to a lot of the NBA superstars he brings in money which is why he's a cash cow. If we could get T.Rob and Lin in a deal I would do it.

5-6m but that was before he got usurped by Beverley. The marketing stuff is a nice token but thats just money in Dolans pocket it doesnt really help the cap or the team.

You could probably changemy mind if they could bring a talented young guy like Trob with him, though, gotta give you that.

NBA-GMaster
06-29-2013, 12:15 AM
A package of Lin and White for an unprotected 1st rd pick..

Stunner
06-29-2013, 12:36 AM
And a future protected 1st going to Houston http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=oq3eosp

NBA-GMaster
06-29-2013, 07:45 AM
Lin may not be an allstar caliber player but small market team could earn big money from him..

knicksfan1969
06-29-2013, 11:08 AM
A package of Lin and White for an unprotected 1st rd pick..

Yeah but no sure this solves their CAP issue and no one will do it for a 1st at this point.

If anything Houston would need to throw in a #1. Lin's contract and White is a headcase in more ways than one.

Lin plus TRob for a lottery protected might work.

Stunner
06-29-2013, 11:50 AM
I really think Lin should go to the Bucks especially if Jennings don't coming back , resign Redick who would be great off ball with Lin . Lin stats woukd prob go back to his NY days or close to it there since he would be the dominate guard there

GiantsSwaGG
06-29-2013, 11:57 AM
:laugh2: Houston wanted the guy to fill up the seats, how did that turn out?

RaJAxTWa
06-29-2013, 12:00 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pgujwsq

omdigga
06-29-2013, 07:01 PM
People still don't understand Lins contract smh, I mean really now there's a fourth year outta no where??

8.3 8.3 8.3


That's the cap hit, stop saying the third year blows up. That was only for the Knicks if they had matched.

Thats way to much for a backup pg.

ChitownBears22
06-29-2013, 07:10 PM
I still want to see another season of Lin Harden. Especially if Houston can get Howard, I think Lin would average 8-9 apg with those two creating spacing.

rockets-fan
06-29-2013, 07:28 PM
Thats way to much for a backup pg.

No rocket fan has said he wasn't overpaid, but people still think that the fourth year is 15 mil and it's not

Hawkeye15
06-29-2013, 07:31 PM
good luck Rox. He isn't worth the money you signed him for.

Blitzace137
06-29-2013, 07:36 PM
good luck Rox. He isn't worth the money you signed him for.

Lin was a project for the Knicks that's why we brought in Kidd last season to develop the kidd but the Rockets saw $$$$ before signing him. They don't look like they wanna take the time to develop him so I wouldn't be surprised if he was dealt.

Hawkeye15
06-29-2013, 07:39 PM
Lin was a project for the Knicks that's why we brought in Kidd last season to develop the kidd but the Rockets saw $$$$ before signing him. They don't look like they wanna take the time to develop him so I wouldn't be surprised if he was dealt.

just don't see how he gets moved easily is all. Joe Johnson showed us ANYONE can be traded haha

ChitownBears22
06-29-2013, 07:41 PM
just don't see how he gets moved easily is all. Joe Johnson showed us ANYONE can be traded haha

I think the Rockets are looking for someone to take the contract, not so much the player. I think they are still high on Lin's potential though.

Hawkeye15
06-29-2013, 07:44 PM
I think the Rockets are looking for someone to take the contract, not so much the player. I think they are still high on Lin's potential though.

meh, he doesn't mesh with Harden to me. Both need the ball so much to be effective.

Blitzace137
06-29-2013, 08:19 PM
just don't see how he gets moved easily is all. Joe Johnson showed us ANYONE can be traded haha

Except Amare lol... And I think if you packeged Lin with T.Rob he can be moved.

Kashmir13579
06-29-2013, 08:23 PM
Lakers should go out and get him.

ChitownBears22
06-29-2013, 08:24 PM
Lakers should go out and get him.

Why would they take on his contract when they have a chance to go out and get John Wall next year?

Hawkeye15
06-29-2013, 08:40 PM
Except Amare lol... And I think if you packeged Lin with T.Rob he can be moved.

touche haha

effen5
06-29-2013, 08:48 PM
Horrible signing.

heyman321
06-29-2013, 08:49 PM
You guys are racist! :S :S

IDunknown
06-29-2013, 08:59 PM
Why would they take on his contract when they have a chance to go out and get John Wall next year?

They have D'antoni to coach him again and Steve Nash can mentor him.

ChitownBears22
06-29-2013, 09:03 PM
They have D'antoni to coach him again and Steve Nash can mentor him.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr they could not gamble the cap they have on a position that isn't that important. PG is nice to have but you don't need a top one to win a championship. Spend money on SG, PF, and C.