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justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:04 PM
woj
Boston and Brooklyn discussing a blockbuster deal that would send Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:05 PM
Possible Nets package includes expiring deal of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shenglia and three first-round picks, sources tell Y!


There's no indication that Garnett has yet to be consulted about waiving his no-trade clause for such a possible deal, sources tell Y!

Yep

310Casper
06-27-2013, 01:06 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Possible Nets package includes expiring deal of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shenglia and three first-round picks, sources tell Y!

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:06 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 59s
Possible Nets package includes expiring deal of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shenglia and three first-round picks, sources tell Y!

kduce
06-27-2013, 01:06 PM
I don't know how they could make the money work and who all would get moved, but if they want to win now they might be able to elevate that Nets teams.

Bmoss12
06-27-2013, 01:06 PM
Would it be around Humphries, Wallace and Lopez for salaries to match?

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:07 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

UPRock
06-27-2013, 01:07 PM
3 First Round picks? Holy ****!

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:07 PM
Boston still bitter about the playoffs.

kduce
06-27-2013, 01:07 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Possible Nets package includes expiring deal of Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, Tomike Shenglia and three first-round picks, sources tell Y!

3 first round picks for 2 older players who likely are only going to be around another 2 years? Thats kinds steep unless they think this puts them over the top to win a championship, not sure if it does or not.

Robbw241
06-27-2013, 01:08 PM
OMG please don't trade Toko. **** the 3 first rounders. Give them Brooks idc

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:08 PM
Similar to what the Clippers results would have been I feel this makes the Nets a lot better for 1-2 years tops but may cripple them long term, especially with the 3 picks.

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:09 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:10 PM
Brooklyn is trying to go all in for these next 2 years. Makes sense.
A little surprise Boston could squeeze that many picks from them though, their has to be more included.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:10 PM
Not phased in any way. I'll believe it when Billy King says its official. Dealt with way too many rumors the past 3-4 years.

Just don't give up our entire future BK

Stunner
06-27-2013, 01:10 PM
This some BS lol I'm mad that's a good team lol

Robbw241
06-27-2013, 01:11 PM
BTW. The picks would probably be 22 tonight, 27 from Timberwolves(who we'd trade Brooks for) and then a future 1st

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 01:12 PM
BOS better be getting a lot if we're taking back Gerald Wallace and his 3 years at over 30 million back. I'd need to dump Terry to accept that.

wiley6
06-27-2013, 01:12 PM
3 First Round picks? Holy ****!

This was the first thing that popped out to me. Seems insanely idiotic to give up that many 1st rounders for two aging stars past their primes. I understand this would be a win now move but they have at least consider the future especially considering the players they would be getting in this deal are very close to the end of their careers.

jrm2054
06-27-2013, 01:12 PM
I would just be happy to have Wallace gone but 3 first is a bit much

KnickaBocka.44
06-27-2013, 01:12 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

You're cheap shots never get any better. You would think after 50,000 posts trolling the Knicks you could get a little more subtle.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-27-2013, 01:12 PM
There picks will be later 20s anyways and that makes them legit

Dwill
Joe
Pierce
Kg
Lopez

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 01:13 PM
BTW. The picks would probably be 22 tonight, 27 from Timberwolves(who we'd trade Brooks for) and then a future 1st

No way BOS should do the deal if those are the picks. Not worth taking back G-Wallace's deal for 2 late picks in a crappy draft. We can just buy out Pierce and let KG retires and save the cap space.

wiley6
06-27-2013, 01:13 PM
BTW. The picks would probably be 22 tonight, 27 from Timberwolves(who we'd trade Brooks for) and then a future 1st

OK. That seems less dumb then.

JOhnnyTHaJet
06-27-2013, 01:14 PM
I can't believe we'd be able to get rid of Wallace's contract... I'm not sure if this trade has legs but it looks promising.

Robbw241
06-27-2013, 01:14 PM
This would be awesome just to see Rondo and Hump fight each other every day.

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 01:16 PM
Brooklyn is trying to go all in for these next 2 years. Makes sense.
A little surprise Boston could squeeze that many picks from them though, their has to be more included.

It shouldn't surprise you at all. It actually helps BRK's future financial flexibility. Right now they have so much money committed they don't even get a Mid Level Exception until 2016. This saves them money for the future because Pierce is an expiring and KG is probably retiring after this season as opposed to Wallace who is signed for 3 more years. With the picks being late this deal is an absolute steal for BRK. BOS should hang up the phone on this.

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:16 PM
Kris Humphries = $12,000,000
Gerald Wallace = $10,105,855
Tornike Shengelia = $788,872

Paul Pierce = $15,333,334
Kevin Garnett = $11,532,468

Wouldn't Brooklyn also need to include Mirza? They are about 3 million short of matching salaries.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:17 PM
Nets will be a very flawed team though now that I think of it. Outside of KG NOBODY there will be defending. Offensively they will be awesome if they mesh.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-27-2013, 01:17 PM
I'm all for trading Pierce and Garnett, but I won't want one Gerald Wallace and his awful contract in return. The first round picks that would come in return are pretty poo too.

UPRock
06-27-2013, 01:17 PM
That's too much, retain the picks and ship Brooks, he's not getting playing time anyways.

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 01:18 PM
Kris Humphries = $12,000,000
Gerald Wallace = $10,105,855
Tornike Shengelia = $788,872

Paul Pierce = $15,333,334
Kevin Garnett = $11,532,468

Wouldn't Brooklyn also need to include Mirza? They are about 3 million short of matching salaries.

You don't have to match exactly. Incoming salary cannot be more than 120% of outgoing salary + an extra $100,000. The deal works with just those 5 players.

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:18 PM
Idk why Boston thinks its a good deal for them though.
Are a bunch of late picks worth getting Crash for 3 more years as opposed to Pierce/KG expiring in 2 years?

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:18 PM
You don't have to match exactly. Incoming salary cannot be more than 120% of outgoing salary + an extra $100,000. The deal works with just those 5 players.

Thank you. Forgot about that little rule.

Robbw241
06-27-2013, 01:18 PM
Kris Humphries = $12,000,000
Gerald Wallace = $10,105,855
Tornike Shengelia = $788,872

Paul Pierce = $15,333,334
Kevin Garnett = $11,532,468

Wouldn't Brooklyn also need to include Mirza? They are about 3 million short of matching salaries.

Might see Brooks added and then traded to Minnesota, and that would be the 3rd pick

KnickaBocka.44
06-27-2013, 01:20 PM
Humphries and Rondo on the same team LOL

TRF929
06-27-2013, 01:22 PM
Definite upgrade, would be very interesting

LTBaByyy
06-27-2013, 01:23 PM
Isn't Deron, JJ, Lopez all on max deals???

How in the hell you going to add on Pierce and KG salaries to that?

D Will 20
JJ 20
Lopez 15

Pierce 15
KG 11

81 mil, ummm yeah haha

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 01:23 PM
Damn, the Nets would be scary as hell.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 01:25 PM
wow THREE first round picks for KG and pierce??? Is Billy Jean King kidding?

I wish I could hear what DoMeFavors has to say. The Nets would be champs for the next decade!!!

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:25 PM
Damn, the Nets would be scary as hell.

Phoenix Suns 2.0. TONS of offensive firepower but zero defense after KG.

Deron
JJ
Pierce
KG
Lopez

Where is da defense?

Ebbs
06-27-2013, 01:26 PM
Good all in move by nets

Robbw241
06-27-2013, 01:26 PM
Couple of things:

1 Gerald's contract can be stretched out.
2 Hawks have rights to swap with Nets pick in like 3 consecutive years.

So even if the Nets do suck in a couple years it wouldn't matter if they were giving future picks anyways cause Hawks would get them. Might as well go for it all.

YoungOne
06-27-2013, 01:26 PM
only want this if we can swing wallace to another team, we dont need him here..

Muttman73
06-27-2013, 01:29 PM
Even with those two, no way BKLN beats Miami, btw I hate Miami.

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:29 PM
Phoenix Suns 2.0. TONS of offensive firepower but zero defense after KG.

Deron
JJ
Pierce
KG
Lopez

Where is da defense?
that D would be just fine.

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:29 PM
Everyone knows why this benefits Brooklyn. It makes little sense for Boston though, that Crash contract kills everything in the deal for them/

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:30 PM
Even with those two, no way BKLN beats Miami, btw I hate Miami.

This

But it makes the nets a top 4 team, along with the bulls, pacers and miami

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 01:31 PM
This

But it makes the nets a top 4 team, along with the bulls, pacers and miami

and thats all thats really important to you right? ;)

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 01:31 PM
There picks will be later 20s anyways and that makes them legit

Dwill
Joe
Pierce
Kg
Lopez

1 and out. And we'd whoop them, they can't run wit us.

Make the deal.

PC
06-27-2013, 01:31 PM
It'd be in the Celtics best interest to deal KG and Pierce separately seeing as they make nearly $27m combined

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:33 PM
and thats all thats really important to you right? ;)

Winning rings is most important to me brah, miami is doing ok at that. ;)

ManningToTyree
06-27-2013, 01:33 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn
You are seriously obsessed with the Knicks.

JOSKOMANG4
06-27-2013, 01:33 PM
Get the wolves involved!

- wolves acquire sf g. Wallace & sg j. Terry
- celtics acquire humphries, d.williams, sg m.brooks,13th overall pick(v/mavs), 9th overall(v/wolves), 22nd overall(v nets).
- nets acquire sf k.garnett and p.pierce
- mavs acquire 2-future first rd picks from nets

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 01:34 PM
Winning rings is most important to me brah, miami is doing ok at that. ;)

whatever son

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:35 PM
Nets would be a HCA team for sure for 1-2 years. I just think they CAN build more balanced roster than that. Phoenix Suns want their idea back. We are talking about like 5 players who shoot 10-17 shots a game.

29$JerZ
06-27-2013, 01:37 PM
Nets would be a HCA team for sure for 1-2 years. I just think they CAN build more balanced roster than that. Phoenix Suns want their idea back. We are talking about like 5 players who shoot 10-17 shots a game.

They had HCA this past postseason, it meant nothing.

redsoxknicks
06-27-2013, 01:37 PM
I hate this for the Celtics.

Wallace? Why? I understand they have to match up contracts, but that is the only thing that makes sense.

As others have said, they are likely better off to separate Pierce and KG, but I have to assume that incl Pierce is one of the only ways Boston can get KG to accept a deal.

SOS
06-27-2013, 01:37 PM
I don't see why boston would take wallaces albatross of a contract when trying to rebuild

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 01:38 PM
Phoenix Suns 2.0. TONS of offensive firepower but zero defense after KG.

Deron
JJ
Pierce
KG
Lopez

Where is da defense?

Difference is the Suns didn't have KG. KG is not going to let anyone slack and you know he will be chewing everyone's ***. I think they would be fine on D.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 01:39 PM
I hate this for the Celtics.

Wallace? Why? I understand they have to match up contracts, but that is the only thing that makes sense.

As others have said, they are better off to separate Pierce and KG, but I have to assume that incl Pierce is one of the only ways they can get KG to accept a deal.

why??

your getting 3 first round draft picks for a team that is entering rebuilding mode. You can get rid of the other loser parts of the deal slowly.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:39 PM
They had HCA this past postseason, it meant nothing.

Eh.. I think they will get at least a little better obviously. So in discussion for 2-3 seed then for a couple years.

VendettaRed07
06-27-2013, 01:39 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

Tbh that is a downgrade from what they already have. Pierce and Garnett are done. Giving three players up + three 1st rounders for them at this point in their careers is mental.

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 01:40 PM
I don't see why boston would take wallaces albatross of a contract when trying to rebuild

That's why it's kind of hard to believe. I mean, the picks are going to be late picks anyway, so it doesn't make sense.

But Woj reported it, so in Woj I trust lol.

sjbirds
06-27-2013, 01:42 PM
i really dont think this helps the nets.. both are old and overrated at this part of their careers

RLundi
06-27-2013, 01:42 PM
Again, Nets = one of the most poorly-run organizations in the NBA, especially if this is true.

Mortgaging their future for 2 old players? Not to mention this does nothing to put them in true contention.

Proky + Billy King = mediocre pretender playoff team with no clear vision for years to come.

Metsboi69
06-27-2013, 01:42 PM
This trade makes no sense for Boston, won't happen.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:43 PM
Isn't Deron, JJ, Lopez all on max deals???

How in the hell you going to add on Pierce and KG salaries to that?

D Will 20
JJ 20
Lopez 15

Pierce 15
KG 11

81 mil, ummm yeah haha

bc Hump makes more than Garnett and Crash makes $10 mil. Although both awful contracts, Billy King knew he would end up trading Hump last year as an expiring. I've said that all along.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:43 PM
This trade makes no sense for Boston, won't happen.

This. (as it's been rumored). If another team steps in, maybe. But don't underestimate Toko Shengalia.

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 01:44 PM
I don't see why boston would take wallaces albatross of a contract when trying to rebuild

quiet man, I want this deal to happen.

KG is done, PP is done. DWill and these fossils can't run anymore. Y'all watched the playoffs, PP and KG couldn't throw it in an ocean. :cool:

That and Celtics are done after this.

RipCity32
06-27-2013, 01:45 PM
That would make Brooklyn a Damn good team for the next 2 years.

KingstonHawke
06-27-2013, 01:45 PM
Tbh that is a downgrade from what they already have. Pierce and Garnett are done. Giving three players up + three 1st rounders for them at this point in their careers is mental.

You're nuts. KG and PP both balled out last year. If this deal happens then they become the favorites in the east, maybe the league. Only thing I could see messing with that lineup is injuries.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:45 PM
Tbh that is a downgrade from what they already have. Pierce and Garnett are done. Giving three players up + three 1st rounders for them at this point in their careers is mental.

lol wut. the 3 players are Hump, Gerald Wallace and Toko (our rookie who is the only one I would be disappointed about giving up). The 3 1st rounders would be all in their 20s. Two probably from this year's draft (weak).

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 01:45 PM
quiet man, I want this deal to happen.

KG is done, PP is done. DWill and these fossils can't run anymore. Y'all watched the playoffs, PP and KG couldn't throw it in an ocean. :cool:

That and Celtics are done after this.

This (I think this is the first time im agreeing with you) I would JUMP on this if I was Danny Ainge!

xnick5757
06-27-2013, 01:46 PM
boston can stretch wallace's contract if they waive him right?

so his 2013 salary would be paid in full ($10,105,855), but the remainder of the contract ($20,211,710) would be stretched over 5 years for a cap hit of $4,042,342 each year

Metsboi69
06-27-2013, 01:46 PM
Lets be honest I love Wallace but trading him is worth at least one, probably two firsts alone.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:46 PM
quiet man, I want this deal to happen.

KG is done, PP is done. DWill and these fossils can't run anymore. Y'all watched the playoffs, PP and KG couldn't throw it in an ocean. :cool:

That and Celtics are done after this.


If this trade happens, that quote is going in my sig.

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 01:46 PM
Tbh that is a downgrade from what they already have. Pierce and Garnett are done. Giving three players up + three 1st rounders for them at this point in their careers is mental.

:laugh:

JOhnnyTHaJet
06-27-2013, 01:47 PM
Again, Nets = one of the most poorly-run organizations in the NBA, especially if this is true.

Mortgaging their future for 2 old players? Not to mention this does nothing to put them in true contention.

Proky + Billy King = mediocre pretender playoff team with no clear vision for years to come.
You must have somsthing against the Nets. How is a lineup of

DWill
JJ
Pierce
Garnett
Lopez

A mediocre "pretender" playoff team?? I wouldn't say we'd be the favorites by any means but it'd put us up there.

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 01:48 PM
This (I think this is the first time im agreeing with you) I would JUMP on this if I was Danny Ainge!

this isn't the first time, it's just that not getting delusion "is he a Knicks fan?" "fake Knicks fan" "I knew you were a Nets fan" thoughts. :rolleyes:

VendettaRed07
06-27-2013, 01:48 PM
lol wut. the 3 players are Hump, Gerald Wallace and Toko (our rookie who is the only one I would be disappointed about giving up). The 3 1st rounders would be all in their 20s. Two probably from this year's draft (weak).

Saying downgrade l worded it poorly. But my point is you could get so much more for that pacKage than KG and pierce. Don't just throw first rounders away on guys who are going to retire within two years

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 01:49 PM
I think Jason Kidd got things mixed up. He was supposed to bring people of equal age in as his assistant coaches, not for his starting shooting guard and center.

NYKNYGNYY
06-27-2013, 01:50 PM
Doubt KG waives his no trade clause for Brooklyn i think he retires plays or plays one more year if he can't get to the clippers

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:50 PM
I think Jason Kidd got things mixed up. He was supposed to bring people of equal age in as his assistant coaches, not for his starting shooting guard and center.

Hey remember when Dallas struck out in free agency last summer?

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 01:51 PM
If this trade happens, that quote is going in my sig.

Other than Tyson vs KG and Lopez. D-Will and Ray Ray, edge to D-Will.

Shump locked up PP, locked him up threw away the key, ate his prison food and sang refill while he was boning Elle. Joe doesn't show up till the last 40 secs of a game. So yeh make this happen.

Knick_Fever
06-27-2013, 01:51 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

Only? Pretty good increase considering it was just Miami for the last couple of seasons.

xnick5757
06-27-2013, 01:51 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 22m
That rumored Celtics-Nets trade is so bad for Boston that Doc Rivers just quit on the Celtics again.


:laugh:

VendettaRed07
06-27-2013, 01:51 PM
:laugh:

l said that with the first rounders available in consideration. They can get much better value out of trading those

HowFit
06-27-2013, 01:51 PM
Wow...

colinskik
06-27-2013, 01:52 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

You sound like a jealous little ugly girl. Can't you ever post something without bending over backward to relate it back to the Knicks? This is about the Nets, not the Knicks.

VendettaRed07
06-27-2013, 01:52 PM
:laugh:

l said that with the first rounders available in consideration. They can get much better value out of trading those

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:53 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 22m
That rumored Celtics-Nets trade is so bad for Boston that Doc Rivers just quit on the Celtics again.


:laugh:

lmao.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:54 PM
Saying downgrade l worded it poorly. But my point is you could get so much more for that pacKage than KG and pierce. Don't just throw first rounders away on guys who are going to retire within two years

Dude that's my point. Two of those first rounders would be THIS YEARS. Not like we're doing 2013, 2014, 2015. By the time they DO retire, we'll have our own first round picks back. Also Billy King has been known to "buy" picks all the time, especially under new management. Teams are allowed to spend $3 million every year. Last year we spent it in buying TyShawn Taylor and Toko Shengalia (player in this trade). So even if we DID give up those picks, we could just buy (or move up) another one. Luxury of having Prokhorov as the owner.

ManRam
06-27-2013, 01:54 PM
can't imagine boston doing it.

colinskik
06-27-2013, 01:54 PM
Wow...

I love that first sig of yours. Brilliant.

celtNYpatsHeels
06-27-2013, 01:54 PM
Humphries is an expiring (But also still young and could be a nice piece moving forward)
Wallace's contract is gross and he is declining but who is to say the C's cant trade him or don't waive him?
And 3 1st rounders for a rebuilding team is nice. They can package picks to acquire players or stand pat and make the picks.


I think this makes perfect sense for the Celtics. While the Nets would be able to compete for the next 2 years.

Knick_Fever
06-27-2013, 01:55 PM
I do agree this easily puts brooklyn past the knicks. Where's DMF? Im waiting for him to say Nets will win the next 8 of 10 championships (First he said 6 of next 10 when they got Kidd) lol.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:56 PM
Humphries is an expiring (But also still young and could be a nice piece moving forward)
Wallace's contract is gross and he is declining but who is to say the C's cant trade him or don't waive him?
And 3 1st rounders for a rebuilding team is nice. They can package picks to acquire players or stand pat and make the picks.


I think this makes perfect sense for the Celtics. While the Nets would be able to compete for the next 2 years.

2 years left for Humpdump.

redsoxknicks
06-27-2013, 01:56 PM
why??

your getting 3 first round draft picks for a team that is entering rebuilding mode. You can get rid of the other loser parts of the deal slowly.

Those first round picks are debatable and aren't going to be lottery. I think they can find 3 picks for them without taking on one of the worst contracts in Wallace.

I know they have to match up contracts, but why would Celtics want Wallace for 3 years? That is the part they shouldn't accept. I know it's limited, but I think they can do a little better.

Knick_Fever
06-27-2013, 01:56 PM
can't imagine boston doing it.

For 3 first round picks? I think they'll do it in a heartbeat.

celtNYpatsHeels
06-27-2013, 01:57 PM
Nope, 1 more year at 12Mil for HumpDump

colinskik
06-27-2013, 01:58 PM
This would be a fun squad to watch. I think if it goes through it also benefits Deron a bunch, maybe he'll be able to regain that Utah Jazz form.

KniCks4LiFe
06-27-2013, 01:58 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 22m
That rumored Celtics-Nets trade is so bad for Boston that Doc Rivers just quit on the Celtics again.


:laugh:

:laugh:

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 01:59 PM
Other than Tyson vs KG and Lopez. D-Will and Ray Ray, edge to D-Will.

Shump locked up PP, locked him up threw away the key, ate his prison food and sang refill while he was boning Elle. Joe doesn't show up till the last 40 secs of a game. So yeh make this happen.

Speak english dude. How are you comparing one player versus two? I'd take:

KG/Lopez/Blatch/Evans easily over Melo/Tyson/Camby/Amare (with his injury problems)

Dwill >>>>> Ray Ray

Sure Iman can shut down PP (no idea, just taking your word for it), but who will guard Joe. We'll have two of the more clutch players at wing spots.

Again, highly doubt this trade happens, but that argument was awful. I'm not tryna make this into a Knicks vs Nets thing but you started it saying our team would be "done". Maybe in 2 years they'll be done but it's not like KG's gonna play the whole damn game. We have quality backups with Blatche and Evans.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 01:59 PM
Nope, 1 more year at 12Mil for HumpDump

Oh year... I was counting 2012-2013 as upcoming season lol.

Sevilla91
06-27-2013, 02:00 PM
why would boston do this to themselves? wallace is a cap killer

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:00 PM
2 years left for Humpdump.

Wrong. 1 year left for Humpdump.

And Bill Simmons tweets makes my point exactly. NO WAY Boston should do this. I'm shocked that this trade rumor even exists hahaha. We would be crushing in that trade.

Kobe2324
06-27-2013, 02:03 PM
i dont think it makes them better, it might make them just a tad better come playoff time when KG steps it up assuming hes not injured but thats about it...thats a lot to give up for those 2

Robbw241
06-27-2013, 02:03 PM
I'd give this deal like a 20% chance of happening. And we should know by tonight either way.

Green_Monster
06-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Celtics, Nets couldn't potentially complete deal 'til moratorium ends July 10, source says. Teams need Pierce's 13-14 salary to make it work

FraziersKnicks
06-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Three first rounders!!!!! For two players with another two years in them max... Wow

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:06 PM
I'd give this deal like a 20% chance of happening. And we should know by tonight either way.

Thought the same till I saw this tweet by Woj:


Celtics, Nets couldn't potentially complete deal 'til moratorium ends July 10, source says. Teams need Pierce's 13-14 salary to make it work

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 02:07 PM
Wrong. 1 year left for Humpdump.

And Bill Simmons tweets makes my point exactly. NO WAY Boston should do this. I'm shocked that this trade rumor even exists hahaha. We would be crushing in that trade.

Yeah. It makes sense for the Nets, if they are trying to win now, then they have those big contracts come off the books in a few years. But I just don't get why Boston would do this. Lol

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 02:08 PM
Can we get a Celtics fans perspective on this please?

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Can we get a Celtics fans perspective on this please?

Bill Simmons: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 02:11 PM
Bill Simmons: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

:laugh2:

Blink
06-27-2013, 02:11 PM
This deal would make the East fun again

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 02:11 PM
A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN 42s
A more likely #Nets, #Celtics deal? Pierce for Humphries+future 1st rd pick.KG no-trade clause+GWallace contract are potential deal killers.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 02:12 PM
Bill Simmons: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

He's a boston fan???? I thought he was a major Lebron fan

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:12 PM
Yeah in order for Wallace (and maybe Garnett) to be involved, they'd have to wait till July 10/12 (hearing different dates). So pause this thread till then haha.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:14 PM
He's a boston fan???? I thought he was a major Lebron fan

are you kidding me? he used to hate Lebron. Just started respecting his skill when he was undoubtedly the best player in he league. (like what any rational fan should do).

He's a diehard celtic fan. In all of his articles he references that all the time haha.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 02:16 PM
are you kidding me? he used to hate Lebron. Just started respecting his skill when he was undoubtedly the best player in he league. (like what any rational fan should do).

He's a diehard celtic fan. In all of his articles he references that all the time haha.

I dont read that Grantland crap.

Knick_Fever
06-27-2013, 02:18 PM
Yet another team to give miami problems inside. Should be interesting.

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 02:21 PM
Yet another team to give miami problems inside. Should be interesting.

Sig bet I'm guessing? Lol

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:21 PM
I dont read that Grantland crap.

he mentions it on TV too. or whatever medium that led you to believe he was a huge Lebron fan.

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 02:21 PM
Can we get a Celtics fans perspective on this please?

Celtics fan here

the trade is just crap, only because of Wallace contract, if it were just a 1 year deal for Wallace then fine but its 3 years 30 mil, just garbage for him imo, other than that it helps both teams do what they are looking to do nets will contend and it will start the Celtics rebuild

NYKnickFanatic
06-27-2013, 02:26 PM
Celtics fan here

the trade is just crap, only because of Wallace contract, if it were just a 1 year deal for Wallace then fine but its 3 years 30 mil, just garbage for him imo, other than that it helps both teams do what they are looking to do nets will contend and it will start the Celtics rebuild

Thank you sir.

Knick_Fever
06-27-2013, 02:30 PM
Sig bet I'm guessing? Lol

lol, yes sir!! I kinda like it though, picked a good one :)

nycericanguy
06-27-2013, 02:31 PM
Yea I think BOS could get an expiring and a 1st rounder for each of those guys separately without taking on Wallace's contract. Not only is he making a ton of money and declining, but his deal runs longer than KG's & Pierce's. And probably better 1st rounders.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 02:36 PM
Celtics fan here

the trade is just crap, only because of Wallace contract, if it were just a 1 year deal for Wallace then fine but its 3 years 30 mil, just garbage for him imo, other than that it helps both teams do what they are looking to do nets will contend and it will start the Celtics rebuild

yea I agree but unfortunately they have to include him to make the numbers work. What I would do if I was Boston is tell them we'll trade you Garnett only, you keep Wallace, we'll cut Pierce and you can send us some money to pay off his contract in the Garnett deal, and you can pick him up. It would have to be on the down-low because if Stern found out he would veto.

GiantsSwaGG
06-27-2013, 02:36 PM
This deal makes zero sense for both teams!

LOOTERX9
06-27-2013, 02:37 PM
Nets are not winning any titles anyway with the team they have now. So if i were them i'd make this deal in a second. Take your shot now with kg and pierce. No one cares bout 3 years down the road. Plus those picks are in the 20's and are useless for the nets. Don't know why the celtics want them though but as for the nets it's a great deal

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 02:40 PM
Three first rounders!!!!! For two players with another two years in them max... Wow

If it's #22 and #26 from this draft and one future 1st that's not so bad since this draft sucks.

robdesign13
06-27-2013, 02:44 PM
Both players going to Nets, makes no sense. Garnett for Humphries, ok... Expiring for Garnet plus a pick/filler.
BUT Pierce for Wallace, Cmon... why would Boston do this? No Reason. None.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:45 PM
Woj:


The Boston-Brooklyn discussions for Garnett and Pierce are serious, several team sources tell Y! "Deal could get even bigger," source says.

Uh-oh. Don't want Terry please. Could possibly be getting two players I've hated for years haha. Please don't involve him.

GiantsSwaGG
06-27-2013, 02:46 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

I'm seriously think when it comes to the Knicks you do this

http://i39.tinypic.com/30089s2.jpg

SoFreshNsoClean
06-27-2013, 02:47 PM
nets are all in with Jason Kidd as head coach?

He has zero coaching experience...he better pan out for BK's sake.

ManningToTyree
06-27-2013, 02:48 PM
I can't see this happening. Why on earth would the celtics take on Wallace and his horrid contract? And no, the three late 1st rounders don't make it worth it. Besides do you really think Boston is interested in helping a team in the east let alone their own division?

Metsboi69
06-27-2013, 02:49 PM
nets are all in with Jason Kidd as head coach?

He has zero coaching experience...he better pan out for BK's sake.

I want to argue this, but so true.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:49 PM
Woj:


The deal could get bigger, as in more players going between Boston and Brooklyn.

Uh-oh. Don't want Terry please. Could possibly be getting two players I've hated for years haha. Please don't involve him.

NOOOO, please don't be Terry. Lee is fine.



The Celtics are discussing the possibility of including either guard Jason Terry or Courtney Lee in the package, sources tell Y! Sports

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 02:49 PM
Wallace is a candidate for worst contract in the league right up there with Amare and fellow Net JJ. NOT what a rebuilding team needs.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 02:50 PM
Woj:



Uh-oh. Don't want Terry please. Could possibly be getting two players I've hated for years haha. Please don't involve him.

You're getting rid of garbage in Wallace so you shouldn't complain.

D-Block21-Chito
06-27-2013, 02:52 PM
Wallace for 10 mil a year isnt the worst thing... I'd trade Deng for wallace at that salary. You guys are over reacting

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 02:52 PM
You're getting rid of garbage in Wallace so you shouldn't complain.

Yes I know. Garbage as in contract though. But trust me. It's weird as #@( for the Nets to get 3 of the 5 players in the league that I hate the most in Terry, Pierce, and Garnett.

I'm sure you can relate with your own team.

LeonFSU
06-27-2013, 02:53 PM
Not phased in any way. I'll believe it when Billy King says its official. Dealt with way too many rumors the past 3-4 years.

Just don't give up our entire future BK

Your team's future is in the hands of Billy King. That alone should be enough to phase you.

2-ONE-5
06-27-2013, 03:11 PM
i dont get why the Cletics would take Gerald Wallace back.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 03:15 PM
Yes I know. Garbage as in contract though. But trust me. It's weird as #@( for the Nets to get 3 of the 5 players in the league that I hate the most in Terry, Pierce, and Garnett.

I'm sure you can relate with your own team.

Pretty much a garbage player too now. He declined badly last year. 7.7 PPG in 30 MPG on .397 FG% and a PER of 11.6 is pretty bad. I would take Metta over him any day.

Sportfan
06-27-2013, 03:23 PM
The picks could be good. Nets could crash in a few years

No Wallace tho

JEDean89
06-27-2013, 03:30 PM
lol billy king is such an idiot, trade top pick that turns into lillard for gerald wallace, then trade picks 1 year later to get rid of him. that is some straight isiah thomas logic. they could have gotten so much for lillard this year.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 03:34 PM
Pretty much a garbage player too now. He declined badly last year. 7.7 PPG in 30 MPG on .397 FG% and a PER of 11.6 is pretty bad. I would take Metta over him any day.

Yeah I know, but the way he was used in the offense was AWFUL.

JerseyPalahniuk
06-27-2013, 03:35 PM
lol billy king is such an idiot, trade top pick that turns into lillard for gerald wallace, then trade picks 1 year later to get rid of him. that is some straight isiah thomas logic. they could have gotten so much for lillard this year.

now THAT's some straight isiah thomas logic. 1st you assume, we would'v drafted Lillard with Dwill already on our roster, 2nd you assume Lillard would've still won Rookie of the year. Very few people thought Lillward at #6 was a good pick at the time btw. All changed once training camp started.

Pistol_Pete
06-27-2013, 03:38 PM
I don't know why everyone is complaining that this is a horrible deal. There are pros and cons, of course, but I think the Celtics make out on this deal. Yes the Celtics are get Wallace's deal, but it's far from the worst deal in the NBA, and he's a capable player. They're also getting an expiring contract in Humphries, and three first rounders. Sure, they won't be lottery picks, but stockpiling picks can certainly work in your favor. And I'm sure they'll be looking to trade Wallace as soon as they can.

As for the Nets, they get two names who can still play and fill a need. The picks they give up are presumably later picks, and work out better if they give up one in this draft that most people say is weak, and have multiple picks in subsequent years. I would rather then give up two picks myself, but that's not the rumor. Then the have Garnett and Pierce coming off the books in a few years for cap relief.

Of course there are downsides, but I think this trade is actually a benefit to both teams.

akesh99
06-27-2013, 03:49 PM
I can't see this happening. Why on earth would the celtics take on Wallace and his horrid contract? And no, the three late 1st rounders don't make it worth it. Besides do you really think Boston is interested in helping a team in the east let alone their own division?

By the time Boston is ready to compete again, Pierce and Garnett will be retired. It's about getting value any way you can. While I think Pierce and Garnett are worth much more than what BKN can offer, its about finding a situation that works for the Celtics as well as Garnett who has a NTC. If they have to absorb Wallace in the process, so be it. Wallace's 10M + 3 1st rounders is better than paying Pierce, Garnett and Terry.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 04:07 PM
now THAT's some straight isiah thomas logic. 1st you assume, we would'v drafted Lillard with Dwill already on our roster, 2nd you assume Lillard would've still won Rookie of the year. Very few people thought Lillward at #6 was a good pick at the time btw. All changed once training camp started.

Lol exactly they wouldn't have drafted Lillard since they already had DWill, but they still could have drafted Barnes or Drummond and be in a much better situation then with Wallace.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 04:09 PM
KG/Pierce/Terry for Wallace, Hump, Shengelia and 3 1st round picks? Brooklyn is short about $10 mil in that trade. Who else they gonna send out?

Rockice_8
06-27-2013, 04:13 PM
Looking at the rumors floating around I think it could be something like this.

Marshawn Brooks goes to Minny for #26. Heard alot about that deal being close to done so lets say they have agreed upon that trade.

Next one is the C's deal

So it's Hump, Wallace, Bogans (resigned), and 3 firsts (the 3 picks would probably be #22 and #26 this year and then the 2015 1st) for PP, KG and C. Lee

Seems like a win win for both teams as the Nets contend for the next 2 years and the C's shed a ton of salary and get extra picks.

Rockice_8
06-27-2013, 04:15 PM
KG/Pierce/Terry for Wallace, Hump, Shengelia and 3 1st round picks? Brooklyn is short about $10 mil in that trade. Who else they gonna send out?

Heard the Bogans (this years Humphries I guess) will get a big one year deal to match salaries. Just like the Nets did last year by over paying Hump so they could have his expiring this year.

Bogans is happy cause he's barely hanging on in the NBA so a 1 year deal worth 7-8 mill would be nice.

Rockice_8
06-27-2013, 04:20 PM
I can't see this happening. Why on earth would the celtics take on Wallace and his horrid contract? And no, the three late 1st rounders don't make it worth it. Besides do you really think Boston is interested in helping a team in the east let alone their own division?


Wallace has 3 years left why is everyone caught up on him. The Celtics are tanking next year if they trade away PP/KG. In 2 years they tank enough where they get good picks and in the third year they got themselves a large expiring to make a deal.

Not to mention they won't be making any big signings in the next 2 years so they need to get to the salary floor which Wallace helps. It's actually a nice piece to have in two years.

Really it's a pretty good deal for both sides.

Utd7
06-27-2013, 04:21 PM
This is interesting but KG has a no trade clause if I'm not mistaken. The question is would he be willing to play for Brooklyn. Also why would Boston take on Wallace? His contract is awful and he's declining.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 04:25 PM
Looking at the rumors floating around I think it could be something like this.

Marshawn Brooks goes to Minny for #26. Heard alot about that deal being close to done so lets say they have agreed upon that trade.

Next one is the C's deal

So it's Hump, Wallace, Bogans (resigned), and 3 firsts (the 3 picks would probably be #22 and #26 this year and then the 2015 1st) for PP, KG and C. Lee

Seems like a win win for both teams as the Nets contend for the next 2 years and the C's shed a ton of salary and get extra picks.

#22 would not be included:

Chad Ford: Hearing Nets 22nd pick in this year's draft is NOT in play in Celtics-Nets talk. Future picks for Boston. Twitter @chadfordinsider

Kashmir13579
06-27-2013, 04:25 PM
Brooklyn is trying to go all in for these next 2 years. Makes sense.
A little surprise Boston could squeeze that many picks from them though, their has to be more included.

are you, though? :eyebrow:

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 04:29 PM
Looking at the rumors floating around I think it could be something like this.

Marshawn Brooks goes to Minny for #26. Heard alot about that deal being close to done so lets say they have agreed upon that trade.

Next one is the C's deal

So it's Hump, Wallace, Bogans (resigned), and 3 firsts (the 3 picks would probably be #22 and #26 this year and then the 2015 1st) for PP, KG and C. Lee

Seems like a win win for both teams as the Nets contend for the next 2 years and the C's shed a ton of salary and get extra picks.

BOS doesn't shed a ton of salary at all. Humphries and G-Force make have a combined $42,317,565 owed to them. If BOS buys out Pierce and let KG/Lee finish out their contracts it would cost $44,882,468. BOS is paying pretty much the same amount of money except now it counts against their cap more in the future rather than getting it off the books sooner. That doesn't help rebuild at all.

However that's assuming KG would even play for the Celtics. Unlikely as he doesn't want to be a part of rebuilding. So actually, BOS is taking on a **** load of extra money when you factor that in.

bleedprple&gold
06-27-2013, 04:34 PM
BOS doesn't shed a ton of salary at all. Humphries and G-Force make have a combined $42,317,565 owed to them. If BOS buys out Pierce and let KG/Lee finish out their contracts it would cost $44,882,468. BOS is paying pretty much the same amount of money except now it counts against their cap more in the future rather than getting it off the books sooner. That doesn't help rebuild at all.

However that's assuming KG would even play for the Celtics. Unlikely as he doesn't want to be a part of rebuilding. So actually, BOS is taking on a **** load of extra money when you factor that in.

Ainge has a hard-on for draft picks. Even crappy late 1st round picks. That's why he's willing to take on extra money.

D-Block21-Chito
06-27-2013, 04:40 PM
Jimmy Butler was last pick in 1st round and hes the chit! Late rounders are still very valuable and cheap...

Cracka2HI!
06-27-2013, 04:41 PM
If they can find a team to take Wallace's contract....maybe this works. However I do think this would be very good KG and Pierce. It would be good the C's too but Wallace is the worst contract in the deal...not exactly appealing to a re-building team...even with 3 late 1st in the deal.

JordansBulls
06-27-2013, 04:41 PM
With Dwill, Pierce, KG and Brook, they would be powerhouses in the East.

uprightciti
06-27-2013, 04:49 PM
this is hilarious!!! crash and hump for pierce and kg? under a rookie jason kidd coach?!?! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the nets dont even have 3 1st rounders to trade.

even if this went down the Knicks would still win the Atlantic

what a joke

bagwell368
06-27-2013, 04:55 PM
This is interesting but KG has a no trade clause if I'm not mistaken. The question is would he be willing to play for Brooklyn. Also why would Boston take on Wallace? His contract is awful and he's declining.

That's good, the Celts want the worse team they can put on the court (if DA is smart).

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 05:06 PM
Wallace has 3 years left why is everyone caught up on him. The Celtics are tanking next year if they trade away PP/KG. In 2 years they tank enough where they get good picks and in the third year they got themselves a large expiring to make a deal.

Not to mention they won't be making any big signings in the next 2 years so they need to get to the salary floor which Wallace helps. It's actually a nice piece to have in two years.

Really it's a pretty good deal for both sides.


of course a nets fan is going to justify Wallace ****** contract smh... :sigh: his contract is crap to a rebuilding team, it hinders any progress in the next 3 years rebuilding teams want expiring deals and draft picks or young talent Wallace doesn't fit into any of that hence why the deal isn't done yet, I bet that it wont get done because of his **** contract

Green_Monster
06-27-2013, 05:12 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Celtics, Nets deal has reached ownership level, league source tells Y! Jason Terry joins Pierce and Garnett in package, source says.

justinnum1
06-27-2013, 05:13 PM
sounds like this is about to be done.

NYSpirit1
06-27-2013, 05:15 PM
There's no way the Celts aren't tanking for Wiggins.

I expect Rondo gone next.

NYMetros
06-27-2013, 05:19 PM
Dwill
Johnson
Pierce
KG
Lopez

WOW.

Bmoss12
06-27-2013, 05:19 PM
of course a nets fan is going to justify Wallace ****** contract smh... :sigh: his contract is crap to a rebuilding team, it hinders any progress in the next 3 years rebuilding teams want expiring deals and draft picks or young talent Wallace doesn't fit into any of that hence why the deal isn't done yet, I bet that it wont get done because of his **** contract

Might as well get a pick from Charlotte and take on Tyrus Thomas as well then you will really have some cap room in 3 years. lol

ManRam
06-27-2013, 05:23 PM
BK probably the only team willing to go this all-in.

Both teams get what they need/want. I like...

MyDRoseLikeDeng
06-27-2013, 05:26 PM
Great trade for both squads if it goes through, but Brooklyn would be title or bust. They would have a small window to squeeze in championship(s) and then they would need a major rebuild

Jarvo
06-27-2013, 05:27 PM
They do this and still dont make far in the playoffs, Then what?

Green_Monster
06-27-2013, 05:29 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

The three first-round picks the Nets propose to send to Boston: 2014, 2016 and 2018.

NYMetros
06-27-2013, 05:29 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m
The three first-round picks the Nets propose to send to Boston: 2014, 2016 and 2018.
.

Rockice_8
06-27-2013, 05:32 PM
this is hilarious!!! crash and hump for pierce and kg? under a rookie jason kidd coach?!?! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the nets dont even have 3 1st rounders to trade.

even if this went down the Knicks would still win the Atlantic

what a joke


Knicks fans in denial. . . If this goes down the Nets are clearly the favorites in the Atlantic. They have all their firsts so I don't understand why you are making things up. 2014, 2016 and 2018 are the proposed picks.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 05:32 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
The three first-round picks the Nets propose to send to Boston: 2014, 2016 and 2018.

Thats not bad at all.

ManRam
06-27-2013, 05:33 PM
BK have no other option but to do things like this. They are in cap hell, so adding KG and Pierce's contracts isn't really a huge deal. They're short contracts in the eyes of BK. It's the only way they can get better.

Not sure any other team would do a trade so all-in like this, so BK probably is Boston's only real trade partner.



Jason Kidd coaching this team is hilarious though.

GeekInThePink
06-27-2013, 05:34 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA


People were saying it was their two picks this year and one next, that makes the deal alot sweeter.

Sportfan
06-27-2013, 05:34 PM
2016/2018 could be some damn nice picks.

BoSox47
06-27-2013, 05:34 PM
are the draft picks going to be protected?

Tony_Starks
06-27-2013, 05:35 PM
Wow! Looks like Celtics are done for another decade like in the 90's. Kindof sad to see the arch enemy go out like that but oh well, thanks for the last ring!

BoSox47
06-27-2013, 05:38 PM
Wow! Looks like Celtics are done for another decade like in the 90's. Kindof sad to see the arch enemy go out like that but oh well, thanks for the last ring!

its alright with 9 first rouonders in 6 years starting 2014 the turn around will be quick

Sportfan
06-27-2013, 05:38 PM
Celtics still might get a first from tonight's draft sent to them from the nets because the trade can't be completed until free agency begins (s&t of bogans)

Sportfan
06-27-2013, 05:39 PM
its alright with 9 first rouonders in 6 years starting 2014 the turn around will be quick
10. We have clippers pick as well

Tony_Starks
06-27-2013, 05:41 PM
its alright with 9 first rouonders in 6 years starting 2014 the turn around will be quick

I hope so. I dislike the Celtics but as a Laker fan a championship is almost not worth it unless you have to go through Boston. Against any other team I always root for the Celtics.

lvlheaded
06-27-2013, 05:41 PM
This trade would give the Nets 2 years to win a title. KG and Pierce are probably gonna play 2 more years, max. That said, it would certainly make them better. The question becomes does it make them better than Miami, Chicago, Indy, OKC, and SA? That remains to be seen.

Did KG sign off already?

Crackadalic
06-27-2013, 05:43 PM
If this trade goes down not sure how there bench would look since blatche and Watson might leave but that starting 5 is going to go far. Only thing is if any of there starting 5 goes down there screwed. Ceiling is as high as a 2 seed

GiantsSwaGG
06-27-2013, 05:50 PM
With Dwill, Pierce, KG and Brook, they would be powerhouses in the East.

They're giving up on their future but for now I consider them the best team in the east. Didn't expect the heat to he knocked down that fast

ManRam
06-27-2013, 05:51 PM
Wow! Looks like Celtics are done for another decade like in the 90's. Kindof sad to see the arch enemy go out like that but oh well, thanks for the last ring!

at least they know when to blow it up...unlike another certain team...

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 05:52 PM
BK have no other option but to do things like this. They are in cap hell, so adding KG and Pierce's contracts isn't really a huge deal. They're short contracts in the eyes of BK. It's the only way they can get better.

Not sure any other team would do a trade so all-in like this, so BK probably is Boston's only real trade partner.



Jason Kidd coaching this team is hilarious though.

The trade actually helps them financially in the future. The total value of all contracts involved is roughly equal. BRK is just forcing it all into the next 2 seasons now instead of having Wallace for a 3rd year. That's big for them because they were already over the luxury tax # for that 3rd year. This drops them below that.

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 05:53 PM
Wow! Looks like Celtics are done for another decade like in the 90's. Kindof sad to see the arch enemy go out like that but oh well, thanks for the last ring!

Right back at ya.

xxplayerxx23
06-27-2013, 05:54 PM
Great trade. But would they have any bench? Pierce and kg can play major minutes anymore. Get rid of Wallace too Damn. I still don't see then taking out Miami

mgsports
06-27-2013, 05:55 PM
Then they will ship then to Clips. Throw in Brooks then you have a deal.

krisxsong
06-27-2013, 05:55 PM
2016/2018 could be some damn nice picks.

Could be yes, but they likely won't be anything higher than 18. The Nets are not bad enough, unless they tank, to get into the lottery or even the 15 range.

BoSox47
06-27-2013, 05:56 PM
are the draft picks protected or unprotected

krisxsong
06-27-2013, 05:57 PM
Great trade. But would they have any bench? Pierce and kg can play major minutes anymore. Get rid of Wallace too Damn. I still don't see then taking out Miami

Their bench would include TyShawn Taylor, Bojan Bogdanovic(all scouts say he would have been a lottery pick this year), Andray Blatche, Mirza Teletovic, a vet and the draft picks tonight...hopefully Hardaway Jr and Dieng.

krisxsong
06-27-2013, 05:57 PM
are the draft picks protected or unprotected

Dunno yet, prob unprotected.

xxplayerxx23
06-27-2013, 05:58 PM
Could be yes, but they likely won't be anything higher than 18. The Nets are not bad enough, unless they tank, to get into the lottery or even the 15 range.

By 2018 they could be bad. Lopez is the only young guy left. JJ pierce and kg will be gone most likely by then but anything can happen that far away lol

xxplayerxx23
06-27-2013, 05:59 PM
Their bench would include TyShawn Taylor, Bojan Bogdanovic(all scouts say he would have been a lottery pick this year), Andray Blatche, Mirza Teletovic, a vet and the draft picks tonight...hopefully Hardaway Jr and Dieng.

Ah blatche there is someone to spare kg perfect. Don't really like the rest of the bench but a nice team for sure. Still got Miami and Chicago as the best two teams in the east IMO

hugepatsfan
06-27-2013, 06:01 PM
Their bench would include TyShawn Taylor, Bojan Bogdanovic(all scouts say he would have been a lottery pick this year), Andray Blatche, Mirza Teletovic, a vet and the draft picks tonight...hopefully Hardaway Jr and Dieng.

Also Jason Terry.

Crackadalic
06-27-2013, 06:02 PM
Their bench would include TyShawn Taylor, Bojan Bogdanovic(all scouts say he would have been a lottery pick this year), Andray Blatche, Mirza Teletovic, a vet and the draft picks tonight...hopefully Hardaway Jr and Dieng.

Thought blatche was unrestricted?

Sixerlover
06-27-2013, 06:10 PM
SUCH a Billy King move. Mortgaging the future for 1 year. KG is probably gone after this season

But if it works, IT WORKS. I just doubt this will work as far as a championship, none of Billy's large moves before have.

LAKobeBryant
06-27-2013, 06:11 PM
No point of this deal if they don't have depth.

Ill21
06-27-2013, 06:13 PM
deron
JJ
pierce
KG
lopez

wow, makes them easily better than the knicks.

only 4 teams in the east would matter next season, miami, indy, chicago and brooklyn

Agreed.

Only issue I could see for this team would be health

Guppyfighter
06-27-2013, 06:17 PM
Nets and Knicks won't get to the finals.

Only the Bulls, Pacers, or Heat will.

sunsfan88
06-27-2013, 06:21 PM
That's gonna be the most expensive starting 5 in the NBA. Williams, JJ and Lopez are all on max deals.

D Will $20 mil
JJ $20 mil
Lopez $15 mil

Pierce $15 mil
KG $11 mil

That's a whooping $81 mil for their starting 5...WOW the Russian better get ready to pay some hefty luxury tax fines!

Daaaarryyl
06-27-2013, 06:22 PM
If they make this deal and also do that "The Association" show again I'll actually watch it this time.

sunsfan88
06-27-2013, 06:27 PM
Isn't Kidd only like 2 years older than KG?

How awkward will that be....

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 06:32 PM
Woj says if KG approves it's a done deal. Entirely on him.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 06:32 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 25s
Y! Sources: As Nets-Celtics finalize a deal, the onus belongs to Kevin Garnett to approve blockbuster deal.

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 06:33 PM
IF it goes threw the nets will have the best starting lineup from pg to center in the whole league hands down

Guppyfighter
06-27-2013, 06:38 PM
IF it goes threw the nets will have the best starting lineup from pg to center in the whole league hands down

No they won't.

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 06:40 PM
No they won't.

who then? you say this with nothing to back it up. the heat are good sg,sf,pf they are average if that at center and pg (im going by players natural position so bosh at pf james at sf) clippers have an alright starting five but to my knowledge don't yet have a sg (maybe ray ray reuniting with doc) and dj at center which is 0 offense. okc has an alright 5 but sg and c

beasted86
06-27-2013, 06:40 PM
Celtics aren't taking Wallace.

I can't believe this rumor just because of that.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 06:41 PM
IF it goes threw the nets will have the best starting lineup from pg to center in the whole league hands down

Wouldn't go that far. Top 5 though. Thing is would have a **** bench and almost no defense. So that roster would not only be a 1-2 year type deal but would need the right role players plugged in.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 06:42 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 16s
Kevin Garnett "doesn't want to be pressured into a quick decision," source familiar with his thinking tells Y! Sports. Teams want if soon.

Santana4Prez'08
06-27-2013, 06:43 PM
tell me kg rejects

waveycrockett
06-27-2013, 06:44 PM
OMG please don't trade Toko. **** the 3 first rounders. Give them Brooks idc

I dont get the toko Obession among Nets fans. He has never showed anything except in the summer league and D-League. Like nothing at all whatsoever.

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 06:44 PM
tell me kg rejects

:cheers:

LOOTERX9
06-27-2013, 06:46 PM
kg will be a hated man in brooklyn if he rejects this trade...

beasted86
06-27-2013, 06:46 PM
Thought blatche was unrestricted?
He is, and the Nets don't have his Bird rights.

His stock around the NBA GMs is still pretty low though because of how he screwed the Wiz. They might be able to keep him for 1 more year by using the $3M MLE.

Wade n Fade
06-27-2013, 06:47 PM
As much as I hate PP and KG, I want them to go play for Doc because I like Doc as a person. Guy is tremendous as a coach. It will suck to see Doc lose out on two of his greatest players he has ever coached.

sunsfan88
06-27-2013, 06:49 PM
Idk why Boston thinks its a good deal for them though.
Are a bunch of late picks worth getting Crash for 3 more years as opposed to Pierce/KG expiring in 2 years?

Boston's getting the 2016 and 2018 picks UNPROTECTED from the Nets. By then, KG and Pierce will be retired and who knows if the Nets will still even have Deron at that point and if he's even good at that point.

Very good chance that those picks end up being at least top 10 picks.

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 06:49 PM
Wouldn't go that far. Top 5 though. Thing is would have a **** bench and almost no defense. So that roster would not only be a 1-2 year type deal but would need the right role players plugged in.

name 5 teams that have a better starting 5 then
Williams
Johnson
Pierce
KG
Lopez
not only is that a big team it is a severly deadly offensive team with 2 of the clutchest players in todays nba. and a great pg to dish the ball to, any of them can go off for 40 on any night so you have to stay at home defensively on all of them. Johnson and pierce are both above average 3 pt shooters so if someone leaves to double they will knock it down, if the trade goes threw I don't see any team in east that can beat them in a 7 game serious (yes I mean the heat either) As long as everyone stays healthy which with this team will be the only thing holding them back, there is a lot of age and past injuries that could bite them in the *** come playoff time

TrueFan420
06-27-2013, 06:49 PM
As much as I hate PP and KG, I want them to go play for Doc because I like Doc as a person. Guy is tremendous as a coach. It will suck to see Doc lose out on two of his greatest players he has ever coached.
I'm sure those two in the west rather than with the nets might make you happy as well

DoMeFavors
06-27-2013, 06:49 PM
KG will accept a trade to the Nets, the situation to be the best team in the NBA is too good.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 06:53 PM
KG will accept a trade to the Nets, the situation to be the best team in the NBA is too good.

Well, look who's back :laugh:.

So the Nets are 2014 NBA champions?

bstnfn34
06-27-2013, 06:54 PM
kg will be a hated man in brooklyn if he rejects this trade...

kg is the most hated player in any city he isn't playing for really, I don't see this as bothering him to much lol

DoMeFavors
06-27-2013, 06:54 PM
Well, look who's back :laugh:.

So the Nets are 2014 NBA champions?

if this trade goes down yes we are

yungincome
06-27-2013, 06:56 PM
:laugh2: DMF is back!

No but seriously, if KG rejects this :laugh:

Pakman
06-27-2013, 06:57 PM
Well, look who's back :laugh:.

So the Nets are 2014 NBA champions?

if this trade goes down yes we arebeat the heat pray

*Silver&Black*
06-27-2013, 07:00 PM
Wonder since Pierce will be traded, Josh Smith will be signed and traded to C's when FA starts then?

ramsizzle
06-27-2013, 07:00 PM
beat the heat pray

Bulls, Pacers, Heat, Thunder, LA Clippers.... these teams at the minimum would be better than the nets. Heck i think miami and chicago would absolutely CRUSH them in a series.

beasted86
06-27-2013, 07:04 PM
name 5 teams that have a better starting 5 then
Williams
Johnson
Pierce
KG
Lopez
not only is that a big team it is a severly deadly offensive team with 2 of the clutchest players in todays nba. and a great pg to dish the ball to, any of them can go off for 40 on any night so you have to stay at home defensively on all of them. Johnson and pierce are both above average 3 pt shooters so if someone leaves to double they will knock it down, if the trade goes threw I don't see any team in east that can beat them in a 7 game serious (yes I mean the heat either) As long as everyone stays healthy which with this team will be the only thing holding them back, there is a lot of age and past injuries that could bite them in the *** come playoff time
That is a poor defensive team, especially in transition.

If you get them running, no way they can keep up and sustain it. KG and Pierce are slowing down. Deron with him being out of shape and his ankes, he is not fast. Brook is already somewhat slowfooted. They are also a half court team without many guys to finish and create on the break.

Every team has it's weakness.

DoMeFavors
06-27-2013, 07:10 PM
Starting C of the all star game will be a Net, that is crazy

waveycrockett
06-27-2013, 07:11 PM
Well, look who's back :laugh:.

So the Nets are 2014 NBA champions?
Honestly we all Know DMF is a troll and I never said once the Nets as currently constructed were "contenders" but with KG and PP next year is a great opportunity similar to what went down in SA. It would all be up what Jason Kidd can bring.

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 07:12 PM
Honestly we all Know DMF is a troll and I never said once the Nets as currently constructed were "contenders" but with KG and PP next year is a great opportunity similar to what went down in SA. It would all be up what Jason Kidd can bring.

Why are you calling him a troll? When did YOU become holier than art thou?

krisxsong
06-27-2013, 07:13 PM
SUCH a Billy King move. Mortgaging the future for 1 year. KG is probably gone after this season

But if it works, IT WORKS. I just doubt this will work as far as a championship, none of Billy's large moves before have.

What? Mortgaging the future means giving up late 1st round picks?

Deron Williams and Brook Lopez is the future of the nets.

krisxsong
06-27-2013, 07:14 PM
Also, Brooklyn will attract some players...far more than they did when they were in NJ, thus I don't see them ever being so bad that they end up with a lottery pick.

Clippersfan86
06-27-2013, 07:23 PM
The stronger the east gets, the better for the west. Means more quality teams to rough the Heat up and make their lives FAR less easy. Which means no more free rides to the finals. Although Indy's emergence already has made it tougher.

Greet
06-27-2013, 07:24 PM
This trade would solidify them as a top team in the NBA, for sure.

DoMeFavors
06-27-2013, 07:26 PM
Deron,Joe,Pierce,KG,Lopez who you gonna double?

waveycrockett
06-27-2013, 07:27 PM
Why are you calling him a troll? When did YOU become holier than art thou?

I've been holier than thou. Where have you been?

BigBlueCrew
06-27-2013, 07:30 PM
Deron,Joe,Pierce,KG,Lopez who you gonna double?

Gonna leave the two old dudes and let them rot :laugh: You remember like teams let your coach did ;)

NFLNBA
06-27-2013, 07:31 PM
Deron,Joe,Pierce,KG,Lopez who you gonna double?

Honestly unless Deron becomes Deron from Utah none of these guys you need to double. Pierce and KG need minutes management or you will see injuries