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spreadeagle
06-26-2013, 04:15 PM
I think this rumor will pan out, looks good for both sides, Wolves get a guy they really are interested in drafting and Magic may get Derrik Williams and possibly multiple picks (a bit too much for Wolves to offer IMO), not a bad haul if they don't really love any of the top guys
The Wolves continue to try to move higher up in the draft to get their hands on Victor Oladipo. They’re offering Derrick Williams, the No. 9 and the No. 26 pick to move up, but so far haven’t found a taker. New Wolves GM Flip Saunders is enamored with Oladipo. -
via-ESPN

The Orlando Magic are considering trading down out of the second overall slot in the draft, according to reports from Adrian Wojnarowski and Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel.

The Magic are studying players that are projected to be selected late in the lottery and the middle of the first round.

The Magic are expected to select Nerlens Noel if the Cleveland Cavaliers don't pick him with the first overall pick.

Robbins reports that the Minnesota Timberwolves could be a trade partner. Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports

Hawkeye15
06-26-2013, 04:17 PM
why would you give up Derrick Williams, #9, and #26 to move up in this draft?

ugh

stlbest5in2013
06-26-2013, 04:17 PM
Dang the Wolves get Williams and multiple picks to move up? What a steal.

MrfadeawayJB
06-26-2013, 04:19 PM
I understand williams and a pick but not williams and two picks

ManRam
06-26-2013, 04:20 PM
Sign me up. We don't have much of a "need" for Williams, but the more young talent the better...and I've been longing to get another 1st rounder.

The_Jamal
06-26-2013, 04:25 PM
Yea doesn't make any sense. The talent at 9 won't be all that much different than at 2

spreadeagle
06-26-2013, 04:30 PM
Yea doesn't make any sense. The talent at 9 won't be all that much different than at 2
they really want Victor Oladipo. who will most likely be gone by then

2-ONE-5
06-26-2013, 04:32 PM
guess Orlando doesnt wanna take Zeller at 2 (assuming Nicholson goes) but still too much too give up

ManRam
06-26-2013, 04:33 PM
Yea doesn't make any sense. The talent at 9 won't be all that much different than at 2

in their eyes it might :shrug:

we can't speak in absolutes about these things. for all we know there could be one player who turns out to be a star and the rest don't...if they think they know who that guy is it very well could be worth it. just because draft experts say one thing doesn't mean these teams think the same way...or even that it's true.

MagicBucsSox
06-26-2013, 04:38 PM
We draft Zeller I'm done as a magic fan. Like the haul though, and mcCullom,pope or MCW fills needs too

mgsports
06-26-2013, 04:41 PM
Yes Williams can slide into starting PF postion for the Magic with Harris off the Bench and Magic can get a PG like Larkn at 9.

JoeBlessU
06-26-2013, 04:47 PM
Yes Williams can slide into starting PF postion for the Magic with Harris off the Bench and Magic can get a PG like Larkn at 9.

As a wolves fan, I have wanted to see oladipo with Rubio and Love for the last few months, its a little spendy because I think D Will is going to be a good player, but he doesnt fit very well here and hes always in Rick Adelmans dog house for some reason.

Im all for this deal.. I think Victor is going to be a stud

2-ONE-5
06-26-2013, 04:48 PM
Larkin at 9? might wanna move back again if thats the case. MCW, McCollum, or Zeller I can see being the pick at 9

HouRealCoach
06-26-2013, 04:49 PM
Oladipo is gonna **** a franchise up... I don't see why people are so high on him, he can be a good role player but he's no star

MagicBucsSox
06-26-2013, 04:59 PM
Oladipo is gonna **** a franchise up... I don't see why people are so high on him, he can be a good role player but he's no star

You don't realize Wade wasn't a star coming out and Miami fans wanted CHRIS KAMAN in that draft? Analysts cloned Miami for adding another wing guy. Oladipo has skills and unmatched passion

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-26-2013, 05:00 PM
No chance we take zeller ... ill be pist lol

Teeboy1487
06-26-2013, 05:08 PM
It's funny how every team is trying to move down.

kduce
06-26-2013, 05:12 PM
Crazy. I'll be happy to see any team move up to take a guy not expected to go before the Piston's pick tho so they can mess up the draft order and someone we want can fall to us. Seems like Minni just ripped themselves off if this is true tho.

RLundi
06-26-2013, 05:28 PM
I don't like it.

I'm not high on D Williams, especially considering we're overloaded at the 3. At 9, I'm guessing Zeller, Muhammed, possibly Burke, MCW and McCollum would all be available. I don't like either of them but I wouldn't mind them simply because we get an extra pick and D Will.

But I really want one of McLemore, Oladipo or Noel above everything.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-26-2013, 05:28 PM
If we snagged bledsoe with afflalo and then did this deal I wonder who we would take at 9 and 26 and how our line up would look with bledsoe Williams and the 9th pick

RLundi
06-26-2013, 05:31 PM
If we snagged bledsoe with afflalo and then did this deal I wonder who we would take at 9 and 26 and how our line up would look with bledsoe Williams and the 9th pick

Idk, that'd be very interesting. I'm not in love with the idea but I do trust Hennigan so far :hide:

carter15
06-26-2013, 05:35 PM
As a wolves fan, I have wanted to see oladipo with Rubio and Love for the last few months, its a little spendy because I think D Will is going to be a good player, but he doesnt fit very well here and hes always in Rick Adelmans dog house for some reason.

Im all for this deal.. I think Victor is going to be a stud

x2

flea
06-26-2013, 05:36 PM
You don't realize Wade wasn't a star coming out and Miami fans wanted CHRIS KAMAN in that draft? Analysts cloned Miami for adding another wing guy. Oladipo has skills and unmatched passion

In what world was Wade not a star in college? He was already an elite scorer and you're comparing him to a guy with serious questions about offense? Wade led that Marquette team to a Final Four. Oladipo and Zeller led their #1 seed to a disappointing exit.

bleedprple&gold
06-26-2013, 05:37 PM
Oladipo is gonna **** a franchise up... I don't see why people are so high on him, he can be a good role player but he's no star

Lol how is he going to **** a franchise up? He is considered the safest bet in the draft and pretty much guaranteed to be a lockdown defender at the very least in the nba.

mgsports
06-26-2013, 05:47 PM
Burke will go to the Pistions. Tim Hardawy Jr. Or Glen Rice Jr. But Miami wants them. Minnesota has extra PG's.

bigsams50
06-26-2013, 05:48 PM
I wonder, if Oladipo falls, would Minny do this with Charlotte?

flgatorsandjags
06-26-2013, 05:50 PM
Burke will go to the Pistions. Tim Hardawy Jr. Or Glen Rice Jr. But Miami wants them. Minnesota has extra PG's.

They have already gave up on Brandon Knight?

Theyhateme459
06-26-2013, 05:55 PM
They have already gave up on Brandon Knight?

I believe the want to Move Knight to the 2 Guard position.

shep33
06-26-2013, 06:11 PM
Pretty silly deal for the Twolves. Great for the Magic!

Rivera
06-26-2013, 06:14 PM
Don't want DWill..oladipo or mclemore are much better than any thing we can get at 9 or 26 or dwill

I'm very high on both guards

mgsports
06-26-2013, 06:16 PM
Meaning Stuckley would be available and they need a SF so a 3 way Trade with Magic and Minnesota would work. Minnesota gets 2 pick,Pistions Derek Williams and Stuckey to Magic and don't know about 9th and Pistions pick.

specialiststeve
06-26-2013, 06:16 PM
Can you say "blowin' smoke up your ***" Not happening.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-26-2013, 06:25 PM
Meaning Stuckley would be available and they need a SF so a 3 way Trade with Magic and Minnesota would work. Minnesota gets 2 pick,Pistions Derek Williams and Stuckey to Magic and don't know about 9th and Pistions pick.
bro give it up your ideas suck every time and Stucky is garbage anyway

flgatorsandjags
06-26-2013, 06:29 PM
Meaning Stuckley would be available and they need a SF so a 3 way Trade with Magic and Minnesota would work. Minnesota gets 2 pick,Pistions Derek Williams and Stuckey to Magic and don't know about 9th and Pistions pick.

No thx on Stuckey

mgsports
06-26-2013, 06:33 PM
He can play PG and the Magic looking for a young one.

5ass
06-26-2013, 06:37 PM
bro give it up your ideas suck every time and Stucky is garbage anyway

seriously he has some of the worst ideas i've ever seen. We give up the 2nd pick for stuckey? wtf

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-26-2013, 06:39 PM
number one he isn't young enough for our future and number 2 he sucks

TheNumber37
06-26-2013, 06:40 PM
bobcats need to do this. any team above them should. assets assets to be moved mid season. is do it.

jcbetson
06-26-2013, 06:52 PM
Meaning Stuckley would be available and they need a SF so a 3 way Trade with Magic and Minnesota would work. Minnesota gets 2 pick,Pistions Derek Williams and Stuckey to Magic and don't know about 9th and Pistions pick.

stuckey is garbage and overpaid

RipCity32
06-26-2013, 07:08 PM
Knight and the 8th pick for the 2nd pick.

ManRam
06-26-2013, 07:10 PM
rodney stuckey :laugh:

GodsSon
06-26-2013, 07:30 PM
Oladipo is looking like he could be the best player in this draft, so I'm not mad at the Wolves at all.

MiamiBoy77
06-26-2013, 07:31 PM
Magic trade Afflalo, Nicholson, future pick for Bledsoe, Butler and then 2 for 9, 26, Derrick Williams.

9. CJ McCollum
26. Rudy Gobert

Nelson/McCollum
Bledsoe/Harkless
Harris/Butler
Williams/Harrington
Vucevic/Gobert

mgsports
06-26-2013, 07:51 PM
Good Trade but wears Lamb in the Rotation?

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-26-2013, 07:52 PM
I like the idea but Noway bledsoe plays the 2 for us so I'd rather see us take pope instead with the 9th pick

PurpleJesus
06-26-2013, 08:51 PM
It's A Rumor So It Must Be True

mgsports
06-26-2013, 09:14 PM
At the moment the Magic are expected to Draft somebody at 2.

bleedprple&gold
06-26-2013, 09:17 PM
It's A Rumor So It Must Be True

Yea its amazing there's been a million rumors and not a single deal has been done yet...

mgsports
06-26-2013, 09:37 PM
The Magic are still weighing options for pick 2. When one Player Trade gets announced like before midnight others will follow.

kenzo400
06-26-2013, 09:40 PM
why would you give up Derrick Williams, #9, and #26 to move up in this draft?

ugh

Because Derrick Williams is crap on the Timberwolves. If they get the second they can take Mclemore. He is a pure shooters and good all around player. They definitely need someone like him.

bleedprple&gold
06-26-2013, 09:42 PM
Because Derrick Williams is crap on the Timberwolves. If they get the second they can take Mclemore. He is a pure shooters and good all around player. They definitely need someone like him.

Williams and #9 should be enough. There is not a large discrepancy between #2 and #9.

ManRam
06-26-2013, 09:59 PM
Williams and #9 should be enough. There is not a large discrepancy between #2 and #9.

i agree that there's not a huge difference, but i think there is, and i personally don't think derrick williams makes up for it. but that's just me...and i think very little of derrick.

mavwar53
06-26-2013, 10:26 PM
If the wolves make this move to draft Oladipo, all I can envision is a guy that they used to have, Trenton Hassell, just more athletic, as the other poster said, I don't see what people see in this guy, but I guess it just goes to show how poor this draft is as to potential and talent in general.

mgsports
06-26-2013, 10:43 PM
2pm is the Deadline a Pick from this years Draft can be Trade intill the Draft happens and the rule should be change. The Timberwolves will move up but it's got to be to one if they want the guy from Indiana.