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spreadeagle
06-25-2013, 02:39 AM
Chad Ford
The Orlando Magic are prepared to select Nerlens Noel with the second overall pick if the Cleveland Cavaliers pass on him at No. 1.

The Cavaliers are reportedly undecided on whether to select Noel.

"If the draft was held today, Noel would be our first choice," one source from the Magic told ESPN.

The Magic scouted Noel closely during the season and have been doing extensive background work on him over the past few months. http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/60244/magic-ready-to-pounce-if-noel-falls-to-no-2

arlubas
06-25-2013, 02:54 AM
Wasn't that a given? Noel is considered the undisputed #1 for quite a few weeks now, so whoever has the chance to grab him, they will.

5ass
06-25-2013, 03:01 AM
i hope so.

flgatorsandjags
06-25-2013, 03:04 AM
I hope Cle. takes him.

MagicBucsSox
06-25-2013, 03:06 AM
Barf, this isn't something to take to the bank........ Orlando doesn't show they're cards and everyone knows they have zero at shooting guard unless there's more to that Bledsoe trade like being reported

tredigs
06-25-2013, 03:19 AM
We're all aware of the misinformation that teams leak this time of year to the media, right?

"Anonymous sources from the team say...".

This pick would surprise no one, but let's not get too caught up in threads for ESPN rumors on draft picks.

flgatorsandjags
06-25-2013, 03:21 AM
smokescreen

sunsfan88
06-25-2013, 06:10 AM
So what the hell are they gonna do with Vucevic then?

And no way in hell that Noel can play PF with his zero offensive game. And the Magic have Tobias Harris at that position anyway.

mgsports
06-25-2013, 07:48 AM
They also have Davis/Harrington/Nicholson to play PF and Harris can play SF. Dwight Howard came in the League as a PF. Noel might not play next year. Maybe Vucevic can play PF.
Maybe they trying to Afflalo to Minnesota who needs a SG has extra PG'S.

2-ONE-5
06-25-2013, 09:51 AM
dont see how Noel fits in Orlando. Hes not even close to Vuc on the offensive end and hes not even that clsoe to Nicholason for that matter.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 09:59 AM
He is a defensive anchor ... vuc lacks in his Defensive presence

Ill be fine with Noel Oladipo or BMc

5ass
06-25-2013, 10:37 AM
If Noel isnt a good fit in Orlando then who is? He's a perfect compliment to Vuc in the front court.

macc
06-25-2013, 10:41 AM
As a Magic fan I hope this isn't true. I think there will very easily be 6-7 players better then him in this draft. Even more if he's the bust I think he may be. Wow he has a nice wingspan and can block shots...that's about it with him. I hope we pass and this is just a smoke screen. I was 100% satisfied getting the 2nd pic in the draft assuming Cleveland would take Noel and it wouldn't even be an option for us. Hopefully that stays the case.

macc
06-25-2013, 10:43 AM
If Noel isnt a good fit in Orlando then who is? He's a perfect compliment to Vuc in the front court.


No he's not, that's the thing I don't understand is how my fellow Magic fans think he is. He doesn't have the offense to be a 4. Vuc doesn't have the foot speed to play at the 4 and guard other 4's in this league. So what do you do? Plus having a log jam down there doesn't help us. If you have Vuc and Noel at the 4 and 5, do you play Harris at the 3 and Harkless at the 2? Harkless is a prototypical 3 and I don't think he would excel at the 2. It just doesn't make sense in many ways.

5ass
06-25-2013, 10:59 AM
No he's not, that's the thing I don't understand is how my fellow Magic fans think he is. He doesn't have the offense to be a 4. Vuc doesn't have the foot speed to play at the 4 and guard other 4's in this league. So what do you do? Plus having a log jam down there doesn't help us. If you have Vuc and Noel at the 4 and 5, do you play Harris at the 3 and Harkless at the 2? Harkless is a prototypical 3 and I don't think he would excel at the 2. It just doesn't make sense in many ways.

What do you mean he doesnt have the offense to play the 4? Does Kenneth Faried have the offense to play the 4? Did serge ibaka have the offense to play the 4 before he developed a jump shot? Kris Humphries? Reggie Evans? His offense doesnt matter. Vuc can hit the midrange jumpshot so he would be stretching the floor. The fact is Vuc is a horrible defender that needs a defensive front court partner to hide his deficiencies, Noel is exactly that.

Also Harkless is versatile enough to play the 2 or 3. It doesnt matter. Aslong as we have other shooters out there on the court we're fine. Harkless doesnt even have to play the 2. He can play the 3 with Harris coming off the bench, and we can find a shooter at the SG position.

5ass
06-25-2013, 10:59 AM
No he's not, that's the thing I don't understand is how my fellow Magic fans think he is. He doesn't have the offense to be a 4. Vuc doesn't have the foot speed to play at the 4 and guard other 4's in this league. So what do you do? Plus having a log jam down there doesn't help us. If you have Vuc and Noel at the 4 and 5, do you play Harris at the 3 and Harkless at the 2? Harkless is a prototypical 3 and I don't think he would excel at the 2. It just doesn't make sense in many ways.

double penetration.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 11:20 AM
What do you mean he doesnt have the offense to play the 4? Does Kenneth Faried have the offense to play the 4? Did serge ibaka have the offense to play the 4 before he developed a jump shot? Kris Humphries? Reggie Evans? His offense doesnt matter. Vuc can hit the midrange jumpshot so he would be stretching the floor. The fact is Vuc is a horrible defender that needs a defensive front court partner to hide his deficiencies, Noel is exactly that.

Also Harkless is versatile enough to play the 2 or 3. It doesnt matter. Aslong as we have other shooters out there on the court we're fine. Harkless doesnt even have to play the 2. He can play the 3 with Harris coming off the bench, and we can find a shooter at the SG position.

Perfectly put...

koreancabbage
06-25-2013, 11:27 AM
Magic need talent. Noels is a perfect example of it. Its not about fit, its about getting the best possible player at that spot.

I think Cleveland picks up Len b/c they let JVal slip through their fingers. (lo and behold, nbadraft.net compares him to JVal)

macc
06-25-2013, 11:32 AM
What do you mean he doesnt have the offense to play the 4? Does Kenneth Faried have the offense to play the 4? Did serge ibaka have the offense to play the 4 before he developed a jump shot? Kris Humphries? Reggie Evans? His offense doesnt matter. Vuc can hit the midrange jumpshot so he would be stretching the floor. The fact is Vuc is a horrible defender that needs a defensive front court partner to hide his deficiencies, Noel is exactly that.

Also Harkless is versatile enough to play the 2 or 3. It doesnt matter. Aslong as we have other shooters out there on the court we're fine. Harkless doesnt even have to play the 2. He can play the 3 with Harris coming off the bench, and we can find a shooter at the SG position.

Are you seriously trying to compare Noels offense to Ibaka and Faried? That's laughable. Ibaka has a solid offensive game, it's not dominate by any means but he can score. Same with Faried. Does Noel have any offensive game you can think of? Does he have a jumper? The answer to both of those in no. Harrias who will most likely be our best player next year, he isn't coming off the bench and Harkless isn't going to play at the 2 spot.

Picking Noel would make no sense to us unless we really thought he was a franchise player which he won't be. He'll be a solid defensive guy in this league. That's it. That's a maybe, he needs to bulk up or he's going to get man handled inside.

Byronicle
06-25-2013, 11:36 AM
Are you seriously trying to compare Noels offense to Ibaka and Faried? That's laughable. Ibaka has a solid offensive game, it's not dominate by any means but he can score. Same with Faried. Does Noel have any offensive game you can think of? Does he have a jumper? The answer to both of those in no. Harrias who will most likely be our best player next year, he isn't coming off the bench and Harkless isn't going to play at the 2 spot.

Picking Noel would make no sense to us unless we really thought he was a franchise player which he won't be. He'll be a solid defensive guy in this league. That's it. That's a maybe, he needs to bulk up or he's going to get man handled inside.

Ibaka and Faried did not have the offensive game that you see now when they first entered the league. That is what he is saying. They were both raw offensively

macc
06-25-2013, 11:42 AM
Ibaka and Faried did not have the offensive game that you see now when they first entered the league. That is what he is saying. They were both raw offensively

I hear that but he doesn't have much of a foundation to even expand from. Noel dunks, that's about. People get caught up in his highlights. His ugly athletic shots he actually makes in collge isn't going to translate to the NBA. He is going to have the impact of a Deandre Jordan, and you see how much the Clippers are trying to hold onto him. He's good for highlights but not winning games.

HouRealCoach
06-25-2013, 11:50 AM
I hear that but he doesn't have much of a foundation to even expand from. Noel dunks, that's about. People get caught up in his highlights. His ugly athletic shots he actually makes in collge isn't going to translate to the NBA. He is going to have the impact of a Deandre Jordan, and you see how much the Clippers are trying to hold onto him. He's good for highlights but not winning games.

Deandre Jordan was like Noel coming out of high school & he got exposed as a 2nd rounder in college.. Noel is still where he started coming out

macc
06-25-2013, 11:52 AM
If you can't tell I'm not high on Noel. lol. The guy only weiged 216 lbs in college. His "weaknesses" according to draftexpress is 1) Gives up deep post position 2) gets pushed around (at college level) 3) tries to block everything rather than battle 4) has issues finishing through contact. Is this really what someone wants as their defensive anchor? He'll make highlights getting some nice blocks but that's about it. Deandre Jordan 2.0 except less offensive game.

5ass
06-25-2013, 11:53 AM
Are you seriously trying to compare Noels offense to Ibaka and Faried? That's laughable. Ibaka has a solid offensive game, it's not dominate by any means but he can score. Same with Faried. Does Noel have any offensive game you can think of? Does he have a jumper? The answer to both of those in no. Harrias who will most likely be our best player next year, he isn't coming off the bench and Harkless isn't going to play at the 2 spot.

Picking Noel would make no sense to us unless we really thought he was a franchise player which he won't be. He'll be a solid defensive guy in this league. That's it. That's a maybe, he needs to bulk up or he's going to get man handled inside.

-Did you even watch Ibaka when he was a rookie? why is it Ok to have a center with not much of an offensive game, but not a pf? Aslong as one of them is good offensively we're fine.
-Why wouldnt Harris come off the bench if need be? He's no superstar. I dont really care if he's our best player, he's going to get his minutes, but if he's a better fit coming off the bench you do it. Im not saying he should come off the bench as its too early to decide anyway.
-I still dont get why you think Harkless cant play the 2. If theres a shooter at the 3 position it doesnt matter Harkless' shot looked more promising as the season progressed, I doubt he doesnt improve next season.
-The original statement you disagreed with was whether Noel is a good FIT for the Magic. You disagreed, so tell me what lotto team would be a better fit for him?

macc
06-25-2013, 11:56 AM
Deandre Jordan was like Noel coming out of high school & he got exposed as a 2nd rounder in college.. Noel is still where he started coming out

I guess we'll see. If Noel was such a can't miss prospect or at least very solid player I wouldn't think Cleveland would be looking at Len at the 1 spot. I'm one of the few who thinks Len will be much better then Noel when it's all said and done.

Chrisclover
06-25-2013, 11:56 AM
then do some trades. Hornets drafted Kobe and traded him.i mean NBA is all about business, if you can pick up high value goods, then you will not care whether it fits or not, because if it doesnt, somebody will come to you and offer what you want more

So what the hell are they gonna do with Vucevic then?

And no way in hell that Noel can play PF with his zero offensive game. And the Magic have Tobias Harris at that position anyway.

ManRam
06-25-2013, 11:58 AM
magic fans seem split.

i'm still fine with taking noel. i'm not as thrilled about it as i once was (the injury is not at all why) but i'm no more in love with mclemore, oladipo, len etc. than i am noel. the magic front court defense was beyond suspect last year...and a defensive anchor would be a huge addition. at the very least he's a better fit than len. i think noel/vucci can play alongside eachother much more effectively than len/vucci.

5ass
06-25-2013, 12:03 PM
I'll be fine with whoever we pick. I prefer Noel because I think we need to address our defensive issues and a high lottery pick next year. I was just disagreeing with everyone that said Noel isnt a good fit and cant play the 4.

macc
06-25-2013, 12:03 PM
-Did you even watch Ibaka when he was a rookie? why is it Ok to have a center with not much of an offensive game, but not a pf? Aslong as one of them is good offensively we're fine.
-Why wouldnt Harris come off the bench if need be? He's no superstar. I dont really care if he's our best player, he's going to get his minutes, but if he's a better fit coming off the bench you do it. Im not saying he should come off the bench as its too early to decide anyway.
-I still dont get why you think Harkless cant play the 2. If theres a shooter at the 3 position it doesnt matter Harkless' shot looked more promising as the season progressed, I doubt he doesnt improve next season.
-The original statement you disagreed with was whether Noel is a good FIT for the Magic. You disagreed, so tell me what lotto team would be a better fit for him?

Did I watch Ibaka as a rookie? Who cares. We're talking about Noel and Ibaka was nowhere near as raw offensively as Noel is.

If you really believe Harris who will most likely be our best player next year is going to come off the bench then I don't know what to tell you. Just stand by and wait for me to be proven right. He's not coming off the bench.

Harkless can't play the 2 because he doesn't have the dribbles to be a 2 guard. "Maybe" if he expands that part of his game but at this point it's not happening. He has a similiar game to Josh Howard. Defensively he'll be able to guard the 2, but theres no way at this point of his career he'll ever be at the 2 spot.

Noel is not a good fit for Orlando because 1) We already have a good C in Vuc who can rebound the ball and score. Orlando needs players who can score in the iso since we don't have anyone outside of Nelson who can do that. Which is why I would want Oladipo or Burke (I didn't jump off the Burke band wagon).

A team that would be a good fit for him would be a team like Cleveland who are already set at the 1,2 and 4 positions, they need a 3 and 5. Though if I were them I would go with Porter or Len. I think Noels injury was a blessing in disguise. I think his draft stock would of really fallen if teams got a close look at him at the draft combine and saw how truley raw he is offensively.

MagicBucsSox
06-25-2013, 12:09 PM
Hell no to Noel . He has no offense to be a PF. Too thin to bang with the PFs today. He'll shrink the floor even more on offense. He will not be the pick

macc
06-25-2013, 12:10 PM
I'm not saying Noel can't be next to Vuc downlow, but with Harris and Harkless on our team, I don't want to bench either of them to put in a defensive only guy. Who is going to score with Harris on the bench? You would be relying on Nelson, Moe and Vuc and that equates to about 70ppg with that starting lineup.

If Orlando has a very nice peremeter offensive player with handles THEN I think it would work with Noel, but the fact is they don't. You can't rely on Jameer to try to create shots for everyone and Moe isn't at the stage where he's isoing anyone yet. Our offense would be tough to watch.

abe_froman
06-25-2013, 12:10 PM
dont understand this for orl,they have vuc who's like 10 times better and doubt noel can play pf that well(reminds me much of tyson chandler).they'd be better off taking maclemore ,you need scoring in the nba and would be good backcourt partner for bledsoe going forward

ManRam
06-25-2013, 12:18 PM
maybe i like noel more than most because i don't view him as a true 5. i think he can play and guard most 4s. at the very least, he and vucci are perfect compliments who excel at each other's weaknesses. i don't think big lineups necessarily are the future, but i think noel has the versatility to make it work.

i don't view it as a "twin towers" thing with two true centers (which i view as a bad thing). maybe i'm wrong in doing so, but yeah. he's just so quick and athletic, and vucci is so lanky and hulking that i think it will work.

macc
06-25-2013, 12:20 PM
Orland has a log jam at the SF/PF postion. As of right now Orlando has Glen Davis and Nicholson (who we just picked in the 1st round last year)at the PF, along with Tobias who can also play the 4, as well has Harrington (eventhough he'll be gone in a year or so). Can anyone say with a straight face that Noel would be a guarenteed upgrade over any of these guys? Where Orlando is lacking is at the PG postion and ISO SG guys. Which is why the players that would benefit Orlando most are Oladipo, Burke or Mclemore. Even a Shabazz would be a better fit then Noel. If Noel was a franchise guy then sure, but I don't see the upside other people do and it's not like Orlando has no talent at the 4 and 5 position already.

macc
06-25-2013, 12:23 PM
maybe i like noel more than most because i don't view him as a true 5. i think he can play and guard most 4s. at the very least, he and vucci are perfect compliments who excel at each other's weaknesses. i don't think big lineups necessarily are the future, but i think noel has the versatility to make it work.

i don't view it as a "twin towers" thing with two true centers (which i view as a bad thing). maybe i'm wrong in doing so, but yeah. he's just so quick and athletic, and vucci is so lanky and hulking that i think it will work.


I'm not going to say he couldn't play the 4 with Vuc at the 5 but I think it would hurt our other players, If you start Noel at the 4 then either Moe or Harris is going to the bench. Then we have litereally little to no offense on the court. I just don't see how that would benefit us in the long term. Also in my post before this. If we drafted Noel, do you really think he would start or be a big upgrade over Baby, Nicholson, Harris or Harrington? I'm not a huge fan of Baby but he has a solid offensive game and great post defense. He's just not going to block the shots of Noel and I think that's Noels "only" upgrade over what we already have.

Stinkyoutsider
06-25-2013, 12:26 PM
I haven't seen much on Noel yet but teams are always taking a chance when they draft a one-dimensional type player as a first pick. I would rather take another player or trade down a spot or 2 and get an extra 2nd rounder as comp (unless there's a desperate team that's willing to give me a future 1st too).

Hope he has good footwork and is versatile enough to defend the screen and roll? It gets worse taking a one-dimensional player as a number 1 pick if the player is a specialist. If all he can do is block shots, I would trade down for sure...

ManRam
06-25-2013, 12:33 PM
Orland has a log jam at the SF/PF postion. As of right now Orlando has Glen Davis and Nicholson (who we just picked in the 1st round last year)at the PF, along with Tobias who can also play the 4, as well has Harrington (eventhough he'll be gone in a year or so). Can anyone say with a straight face that Noel would be a guarenteed upgrade over any of these guys? Where Orlando is lacking is at the PG postion and ISO SG guys. Which is why the players that would benefit Orlando most are Oladipo, Burke or Mclemore. Even a Shabazz would be a better fit then Noel. If Noel was a franchise guy then sure, but I don't see the upside other people do and it's not like Orlando has no talent at the 4 and 5 position already.

When I look at our roster I don't even acknowledge Baby, Nelson, Harrington, Hedo etc. Even Afflalo. They're not playing a role in our future. Our logjam really only exists at SF IMO. Nicholson might be traded (if these Bledsoe rumors are legit) and even still I like him as a backup rather than a starter.

I don't think we should be drafting by position considering how early we are in the rebuild. Just take the best player. The only position I don't think we should draft is indeed SF, but Porter is really the only guy who could be worth taking, and there's no indication we have any interest in him (thankfully).


We're still in phase 1 of the rebuild. Filling out the roster in a way that fits everyone's perfect mold of positional definitions doesn't need to happen now. Having holes in the roster this year isn't a big deal at all. If we don't find a PG for the future now, so be it. We have time. Same for SG. Same for PF.


He might not ever be a dominating offensive player, but I don't see many great two-way players at the top of the board. I'm not in love with Oladipo's offense. I think Burke is average in both regards. McLemore's defense isn't special.

ManRam
06-25-2013, 12:37 PM
I'm not going to say he couldn't play the 4 with Vuc at the 5 but I think it would hurt our other players, If you start Noel at the 4 then either Moe or Harris is going to the bench. Then we have litereally little to no offense on the court. I just don't see how that would benefit us in the long term. Also in my post before this. If we drafted Noel, do you really think he would start or be a big upgrade over Baby, Nicholson, Harris or Harrington? I'm not a huge fan of Baby but he has a solid offensive game and great post defense. He's just not going to block the shots of Noel and I think that's Noels "only" upgrade over what we already have.

This year? Probably not. Do I care about winning this year? Not at all. Him missing time I think is a plus. In the future, yeah...I think he could have a much more significant impact.

Baby and Harrington don't have a future with this team. Who cares if they're there to create a logjam now?

macc
06-25-2013, 12:55 PM
This year? Probably not. Do I care about winning this year? Not at all. Him missing time I think is a plus. In the future, yeah...I think he could have a much more significant impact.

Baby and Harrington don't have a future with this team. Who cares if they're there to create a logjam now?


I hear what you're saying, I would agree if Noel was the best player. He's just a tall guy who can dunk and block shots. I think there are many other players in this draft who are better then him. Even if you don't see Baby and Co as a long time answer that still doesn't address our "bigger" need and that is all star caliber peremeter players who can create their own shot. My point is we have Vuc who can rebound and score, Baby is solid defensively and can score. Nicholson can score (but I agree, he's prob better fit off the bench). Having Noel doesn't solve any of our peremeter problems. If I thought he was def an upgrade and would def impact our team long term then sure, but he's not a can't miss prospect. I don't think drafting a Deandre Jordan is going to benefit us in the long run. Esp with bigger needs we can address now very cheap.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 12:58 PM
I guess we'll see. If Noel was such a can't miss prospect or at least very solid player I wouldn't think Cleveland would be looking at Len at the 1 spot. I'm one of the few who thinks Len will be much better then Noel when it's all said and done.

This is false .... he prob would be the pick for Cleveland for sure if he could contribute right away ... there not passing on him cause he is crappy there passing on him cause they want to get some one who can start day one and help them win now and we know due to his injury noel can't do that

RipCity32
06-25-2013, 01:02 PM
Orlando should take McLemore.

todu82
06-25-2013, 01:04 PM
This would be a good move for Orlando. Noel's a great talent and should help the team immensely.

macc
06-25-2013, 01:06 PM
This is false .... he prob would be the pick for Cleveland for sure if he could contribute right away ... there not passing on him cause he is crappy there passing on him cause they want to get some one who can start day one and help them win now and we know due to his injury noel can't do that



That makes no sense. Cleveland is still a few years outs from competing. They are in a sitution similiar to ours except they already have their franchise player. Cleveland is not competing next year so why would they "need" someone to start day one? In stead they could do like us and suck next year and get a top pick in next years draft. Cleveland isn't in any win now mode. So I'm not sure where you're getting that.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 01:07 PM
when i look at our roster i don't even acknowledge baby, nelson, harrington, hedo etc. Even afflalo. They're not playing a role in our future. our logjam really only exists at sf imo. Nicholson might be traded (if these bledsoe rumors are legit) and even still i like him as a backup rather than a starter.

I don't think we should be drafting by position considering how early we are in the rebuild. Just take the best player. The only position i don't think we should draft is indeed sf, but porter is really the only guy who could be worth taking, and there's no indication we have any interest in him (thankfully).


We're still in phase 1 of the rebuild. Filling out the roster in a way that fits everyone's perfect mold of positional definitions doesn't need to happen now. Having holes in the roster this year isn't a big deal at all. If we don't find a pg for the future now, so be it. We have time. Same for sg. Same for pf.


He might not ever be a dominating offensive player, but i don't see many great two-way players at the top of the board. I'm not in love with oladipo's offense. I think burke is average in both regards. Mclemore's defense isn't special.

x 100

Jtirado16
06-25-2013, 01:09 PM
I think he fits perfectly for the Cavs. But definitely not for the Magic. Mclemore is the right pick here if he doesn't go #1 let Noel go past you guys. He can't really score & he's a weak guy. He's mainly defensive. & you guys need offense

GiantsSwaGG
06-25-2013, 01:10 PM
People do realize Noel doesn't no type of offensive game besides dunking. Tyson Chandler 2.0

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 01:11 PM
That makes no sense. Cleveland is still a few years outs from competing. They are in a sitution similiar to ours except they already have their franchise player. Cleveland is not competing next year so why would they "need" someone to start day one? In stead they could do like us and suck next year and get a top pick in next years draft. Cleveland isn't in any win now mode. So I'm not sure where you're getting that.

I'm sorry let me replace the word START with CONTRIBUTE right away

Basically they want somebody who can help them day one of next season (whether they draft someone at 1 or trade it for a vet) and noel can't help day one in anyway so he may not be there choice because of that.

macc
06-25-2013, 01:25 PM
I'm sorry let me replace the word START with CONTRIBUTE right away

Basically they want somebody who can help them day one of next season (whether they draft someone at 1 or trade it for a vet) and noel can't help day one in anyway so he may not be there choice because of that.



Once again, why do they "need" someone who can start day one? They aren't competing this year. Them (like us) have nothing but time.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 01:25 PM
People do realize Noel doesn't no type of offensive game besides dunking. Tyson Chandler 2.0

And Tyson Chandler's presence was a key piece in the mavs winning a championship

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 01:33 PM
Once again, why do they "need" someone who can start day one? They aren't competing this year. Them (like us) have nothing but time.

Can you read macc? CONTRIBUTE DAY ONE ... NOT START. ...

in case you live under a rock the cavs have stated they want to win now and practically promised to make the playoffs a month ago hence why they want someone who can help right away .... there nowhere near otown we just started out rebuild they have been rebuilding since bronbron left 3 years ago

macc
06-25-2013, 01:39 PM
Can you read macc? CONTRIBUTE DAY ONE ... NOT START. ...

in case you live under a rock the cavs have stated they want to win now and practically promised to make the playoffs a month ago hence why they want someone who can help right away .... there nowhere near otown we just started out rebuild they have been rebuilding since bronbron left 3 years ago



So what you're saying is Noel is the franchise guy and Cleveland knows this but since he can't play until Dec that Cleveland will go with a player who can play day one of the "regular season" lol. Come on man, think about that for a min. Even if Cleveland thinks they can make the playoffs, my point still holds true, they aren't contending and aren't going to pass on someone they think is a franchise player "just" because another player can contribute the first game of the regular season.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 01:50 PM
Yea Macc that's exactly what I said lmao.learn to read and not twist things in your favor.

We all know there isn't a clear cut must have franchise guy in this draft , who has seperated himself from the pack and taken a lead. There all close.

There has been multiple articles on what in saying I'm not just making it up lol

GiantsSwaGG
06-25-2013, 02:05 PM
And Tyson Chandler's presence was a key piece in the mavs winning a championship

And you guys don't have a Dirk, Terry or even a Marion.

Noel will be more the Tyson Chandler of the Bulls!

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 02:17 PM
And you guys don't have a Dirk, Terry or even a Marion.

Noel will be more the Tyson Chandler of the Bulls!

Your statement wasn't about what the magic had. It was discrediting noel since he was like Chandler. Us not having dirk Marion or terry is irrelevant point is Tyson was there missing link. Noel is ten years younger then Tyson so maybe by the time he is in his prime he will Have a better cast around him like Tyson did in Dallas.

MiamiBoy77
06-25-2013, 02:34 PM
if youre gonna draft Noel, youre giving yourself a chance for the #1 pick in 2014.

Bledsoe (for Afflalo)
Harkless
Wiggins
Harris
Noel/Vucevic (off bench)

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
06-25-2013, 02:40 PM
One the reasons I like noel is cause we can get a solid player for the future yet continue to suck next season for the stacked 2014 draft

2-ONE-5
06-25-2013, 02:53 PM
if youre gonna draft Noel, youre giving yourself a chance for the #1 pick in 2014.

Bledsoe (for Afflalo)
Harkless
Wiggins
Harris
Noel/Vucevic (off bench)

Noel would not start over Vuc