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SteBO
05-30-2013, 09:52 AM
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Location: American Airlines Arena
Time: 8:30 PM

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George Hill - Lance Stephenson - Paul George - David West - Roy Hibbert


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Mario Chalmers Dwyane Wade LeBron James Udonis Haslem Chris Bosh





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king4day
05-30-2013, 10:16 AM
Miami doesn't want to return to Indy down 3-2. I picked Indy cuz I want them to win but realistically, Miami might take this one just as easy as they did in game 3.

kdspurman
05-30-2013, 10:35 AM
Bosh really needs to show up. 13 rebounds through 4 playoff games when your team is -40 in the rebounding category for the series, just won't cut it. I know his role has changed and many times he's really just a spot up shooter, but he's gotta get in the paint on both ends and fight for some rebounds.

I think Lebron will get his, but his teammates have to help him out. If Wade/Bosh continue to struggle, then for the sake of the Heat, Allen/Battier/Chalmers will need to step up their game.

I think Indy should do exactly what they did in game 4. Even if Miami speeds up the game, they can't change what they do and try and match them. Play through the bigs, and run when it is beneficial and advantageous.

Should be a good one.

Iron24th
05-30-2013, 10:58 AM
I don't see miami losing this one, and if they do, they're in big trouble.

Aust
05-30-2013, 11:22 AM
Mark my words, Miami will win this game.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 12:00 PM
neither bosh nor wade have scored 20+ points this series. i think wade finally puts together a decent game. and that will be all they need (assuming the supporting cast doesn't shoot 20% from three). really, they just need one of them to play like an all-star.

i smell a huge game for lebron too. after game 4, he's gotta be eager to make a huge statement.

D-Leethal
05-30-2013, 12:10 PM
Not sure what to think here. Honestly, its gonna come down to Heat shooters hitting shots. They can't have a no show from Battier, Allen and they need Bosh and Haslem to drill their jumpers so Hibbert can't hang out in the paint.

JordansBulls
05-30-2013, 12:31 PM
The Heat need to put Joel Anthony in the starting lineup this series and move Bosh to the PF and Lebron at the SF. To deal with the size difference. Having Bosh at Center where he is outweighed and shorter is why he can't rebound.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 12:44 PM
The Heat need to put Joel Anthony in the starting lineup this series and move Bosh to the PF and Lebron at the SF. To deal with the size difference. Having Bosh at Center where he is outweighed and shorter is why he can't rebound.

i'm not sure joel anthony playing more minutes is the answer. they aren't going to do big-basketball better than indy. anthony is a TERRIBLE player. he'll help eat away a little bit at the rebounding margin, but not enough to make his completely useless offensive play worth it.

i think they need to continue to realize that they're going to get killed at times down there, and instead focus more on getting out in transition and being less scared of attacking hibbert.

they got out-rebounded by 7 rebounds a game in the first three games. game 4 was more of a bloodbath. if they can keep it at 7 they'll be fine so long as they get more than 8 fast break points (like game 2) and so long as battier, allen and chalmers hit a decent amount of threes.





i'd love to see them come out with wade and lebron attacking like we're so used to. go right at hibbert. i get that he's perhaps as game-changing defensively as it gets nowadays, but still. go at him. maybe get him in foul trouble. at least make him move and spread the court. lebron and wade have been too passive. lebron at times has looked scared basically of the idea of going at hibbert.

they gotta run more and attack the rim more. simple as that. if hibbert is killing you, put some pressure on him and do the one thing he can't do: run.

Avenged
05-30-2013, 12:44 PM
Pacers need this one. I just cannot see them winning 2 in a row if they drop this game.

Pierzynski4Prez
05-30-2013, 12:54 PM
Whoever wins tonight will take the series

mngopher35
05-30-2013, 01:23 PM
This will hopefully be another awesome game. So far the best series of the playoffs imo. At this point the pacers have been playing great team ball, Lebron has been Lebron, and the rest of the heat have been inconsistent. It makes it hard to predict what heat team will show up, but it seems many believe heat win. Lebron will have to keep up his play and either wade or bosh will have to step up while role players play at least normal.

Max.This
05-30-2013, 01:31 PM
The Heat are going to demolish the Pacers. They're going to shoot well tonight.

Max.This
05-30-2013, 01:32 PM
neither bosh nor wade have scored 20+ points this series. i think wade finally puts together a decent game. and that will be all they need (assuming the supporting cast doesn't shoot 20% from three). really, they just need one of them to play like an all-star.

i smell a huge game for lebron too. after game 4, he's gotta be eager to make a huge statement.

When the heat win, both bosh and wade shoot above 55%. It doesnt take 20% for the HEAT to get beat.

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 01:40 PM
No way heat lose this one, and it wont be close. I see Norris Cole playing well.

MyDRoseLikeDeng
05-30-2013, 01:51 PM
Its a bigger game for the Pacers than it is for the Heat for 2 reasons.
1. Indiana was in this exact position a year ago, and this is the game that swayed the series in Miami's favor for good(well and Game 4). But had Indiana won this game last year, they probably would have won the series, so they obviously understand the significance of this game.
2. Miami never really panics, and they were down 3-2 in the ECF last year and still won, so they have proven they can do it, making this game bigger for Indiana.

This game will come down to whichever coach makes the most adjustments. In game 3, LeBron went to work on the low block and killed Indiana with the left hand. In game 4, the Pacers made Lebron catch the ball farther away from the basket and made him shoot tough fade away jumpers while bringing double teams from time to time. Whoever makes the more necessary adjustments wins this game in my opinion, and I honestly wouldnt be shocked at all if it is Indiana, but im going with Miami

ManRam
05-30-2013, 01:52 PM
When the heat win, both bosh and wade shoot above 55%. It doesnt take 20% for the HEAT to get beat.

i think if you go back to last years playoffs the most obvious difference between wins and losses is how well the tertiary players shoot threes.

playoff losses the last two seasons, and the supporting cast (non-Wade, Bron or Bosh) three point shooting, in chronological order (obviously):

1. game 4 vs the Knicks: supporting cast 1-10 from three
2. game 2 vs the Pacers: 1-10 from three
3. game 3 vs the Pacers: 3-14 from three
4. game 3 vs the Celtics: 4-13 from three
5. game 4 vs the Celtics: 3-10 from three
6. game 5 vs the Celtics: 4-17 from three
7. game 1 vs the Thunder: 7-14 from three (the first aberration)
8. game 1 vs the Bulls: 5-18 from three
9. game 2 vs the Pacers: 2-10 from three
10. game 4 vs the Pacers: 3-13 from three

in losses: 33-129 (26%)


so yeah...that's why i've said for a long time now that so long as the supporting cast is doing their things the heat will win. i think the single most important thing for this team is the three point shot from the role players. lebron is consistent enough that he'll do enough to make it close. wade, even injured like the last two years, is a solid-enough second option...but they've shown they can win even when he's off. bosh is wildly inconsistent (and missed time), and again, they can survive that. they can survive anything so long as threes are being made.

it's a great group of role players, but they struggle at scoring consistently outside of the three point shot. it's about all most of them can bring to the offense...so that's why it's so crucial.

king4day
05-30-2013, 02:09 PM
For the Heat, Bosh needs to get going with some 15ft jumpers. Him camping at the 3pt line completely eliminates what he can do well on both sides of the ball. I believe that's part of why his rebounding #'s are down.
I wouldn't be surprised is Spo makes a deliberate intent to get him going early.

OceanSpray
05-30-2013, 02:23 PM
- Bosh needs to play with more energy.
- Wade needs to stop taking stupid shots and making silly plays.
- Miami's shooters need to knock down those threes. Ray Allen/Battier in particular.
- Miami needs to get Roy Hibbert in foul trouble.

If they can't do at least 2 or 3 of the above, they'll lose.

rgt584
05-30-2013, 02:54 PM
The Heat need to put Joel Anthony in the starting lineup this series and move Bosh to the PF and Lebron at the SF. To deal with the size difference. Having Bosh at Center where he is outweighed and shorter is why he can't rebound.

this strategy i think can help heat for littl bit..bosh is a good mobile big he can actually take west of the dribble..think bosh is also taller and could at least try postin west...anthony can help push hibbert out of the low block where he cant just take hook shots...of course lebron can also post up like usual and bosh can stretch the floor with his shooting also...d wade can attack rim if spacing is there or he can also go to midrange where he is excellent...its gonna be a good game...its like everyone says...the coaches and players who make the most adjustments to help their side is gonna be the winner...

ManRam
05-30-2013, 02:58 PM
the thing about joel anthony is that he's actually a terrible rebounder. people assume that because he's a big center he would be, but he's not. bosh is even a better rebounder than him. anderson is the guy, not anthony, that could make a difference.


inserting anthony into the lineup isn't gonna help at all.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 02:58 PM
- Bosh needs to play with more energy.
- Wade needs to stop taking stupid shots and making silly plays.
- Miami's shooters need to knock down those threes. Ray Allen/Battier in particular.
- Miami needs to get Roy Hibbert in foul trouble.

If they can't do at least 2 or 3 of the above, they'll lose.

Hibbert won't get in foul trouble he is the only player on the court they consistently allow to go straight up without calling a foul. Wade has done way more good then bad you just continue to bash him. Bosh does need to step up and the 3 pt shooters need to knock down shots. So I agree with two out of the four.

ATX
05-30-2013, 03:01 PM
Ya, I don't want to see J Anthony on the floor unless it's a blowout. Bring it on, feeling confident about game 5.

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 03:28 PM
I got a feeling LeBron drops 40 tonight. Can George score 30 and can Lance continue his Gm.4 into 5. Miami will not let Hibbert beat them.

ChicagoJ
05-30-2013, 03:39 PM
The thing about this matchup is that if Indy doesn't dominate down low on the offensive side of the ball, they have little chance of winning. They won't beat the heat due to their outside shooting.

So the keys to this game is how will the heat make adjustments to deal with the pacers offense down low, and will the refs be a factor. If the pacers bigs get in foul trouble it won't be a close game. The pacers have to dominate in the paint, simple as that.

Pacerlive
05-30-2013, 03:46 PM
The thing about this matchup is that if Indy doesn't dominate down low on the offensive side of the ball, they have little chance of winning. They won't beat the heat due to their outside shooting.

So the keys to this game is how will the heat make adjustments to deal with the pacers offense down low, and will the refs be a factor. If the pacers bigs get in foul trouble it won't be a close game. The pacers have to dominate in the paint, simple as that.
I would have figured they would have made adjustments by now if they were going to adjust at all. I mean you would have to double both David West and Roy to take away the advantage and I just can't see them doing that. It certainly didn't work for NYK to do that.

Minimal
05-30-2013, 04:29 PM
The Heat need to put Joel Anthony in the starting lineup this series and move Bosh to the PF and Lebron at the SF. To deal with the size difference. Having Bosh at Center where he is outweighed and shorter is why he can't rebound.
Bosh is there to force Hibbert out of paint so LeBron and Wade can attack, Anthony can't do that.

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2013, 04:44 PM
the thing about joel anthony is that he's actually a terrible rebounder. people assume that because he's a big center he would be, but he's not. bosh is even a better rebounder than him. anderson is the guy, not anthony, that could make a difference.


inserting anthony into the lineup isn't gonna help at all.

yep, anyone calling for joel anthony is misinformed. the guy is only an inch taller then haslem so he doesn't offer much in the way of size. and he doesn't rebound well at all because he's always going for the shot block and he's just not a good rebounder. then add in the fact that he can't even catch a pass on offense and doesn't finish well around the rim and there's absolutely no reason for him to be getting minutes besides the fact he's a good pick and roll defender. way too 1 dimensional, bird offers soo much more plus some actual height.

mngopher35
05-30-2013, 04:52 PM
yep, anyone calling for joel anthony is misinformed. the guy is only an inch taller then haslem so he doesn't offer much in the way of size. and he doesn't rebound well at all because he's always going for the shot block and he's just not a good rebounder. then add in the fact that he can't even catch a pass on offense and doesn't finish well around the rim and there's absolutely no reason for him to be getting minutes besides the fact he's a good pick and roll defender. way too 1 dimensional, bird offers soo much more plus some actual height.

I watch a lot of heat games and agree. I have a question about what you (and other heat fans) think of birdman? To me he should be playing more than haslem pretty easily. Is there something that I am missing here, or is haslem just better because of spacing? To me Andersons ability to cut and finish offsets this on the offensive end, rebounding is similar, and he is the better defender (especially vs a very large team like this).

P&G Back On Top
05-30-2013, 04:56 PM
George hill needs to limit his dribbling, silly turnovers. that being said the other george will have a monster game tonight.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 05:31 PM
I watch a lot of heat games and agree. I have a question about what you (and other heat fans) think of birdman? To me he should be playing more than haslem pretty easily. Is there something that I am missing here, or is haslem just better because of spacing? To me Andersons ability to cut and finish offsets this on the offensive end, rebounding is similar, and he is the better defender (especially vs a very large team like this).

Anderson is a better fit at times, but he is foul prone. If he starts he would be out the game in the first 5 minutes with the way the refs have been in this series.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 05:56 PM
I watch a lot of heat games and agree. I have a question about what you (and other heat fans) think of birdman? To me he should be playing more than haslem pretty easily. Is there something that I am missing here, or is haslem just better because of spacing? To me Andersons ability to cut and finish offsets this on the offensive end, rebounding is similar, and he is the better defender (especially vs a very large team like this).

I think if Miami goes down 3-2 and gets killed down low he might get moved over. But Spo really ever hanged his lineups and would much rather have him off the bench.

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 06:03 PM
Just feed the beasts. That's what they aren't doing. Give it to Roy, give it West. It cuts down turnovers

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2013, 06:14 PM
Just feed the beasts. That's what they aren't doing. Give it to Roy, give it West. It cuts down turnovers

true the pacers need to go to the post with them as much as possible. but if they try and force it when it's not there, there will be some turnovers on the post entry passes and roy and west could turn it over if caught in a trap.

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 06:18 PM
true the pacers need to go to the post with them as much as possible. but if they try and force it when it's not there, there will be some turnovers on the post entry passes and roy and west could turn it over if caught in a trap.
here's the thing, other than LeBron MIAMI doesn't have the personel to contain that post. George Hill needs to force it there, it's been a set mismatch every time down

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2013, 06:20 PM
I watch a lot of heat games and agree. I have a question about what you (and other heat fans) think of birdman? To me he should be playing more than haslem pretty easily. Is there something that I am missing here, or is haslem just better because of spacing? To me Andersons ability to cut and finish offsets this on the offensive end, rebounding is similar, and he is the better defender (especially vs a very large team like this).

i love birdman, i think he should play as much as possible. but with spo stuck in his rotations, along with bird's penchant for foul trouble he probably won't play big minutes. another thing with him is he claims to spend all his energy all the time while out there and then needs to sit to recharge once he gets burnt out rather quickly. if i were spo i'd take him out whenever he needs it and tell him to stand up on the bench when hes ready to go back in then sub him in asap depending on the foul situation. hibbert said how hard it is to help on lebron and wade's drives when he knows the bird is lurking behind him waiting for the dump off pass for the easy bucket. he also said how they were basically ignoring haslem until game 3, if haslem has it going like that then he obviously should be in but its so rare he's spacing the floor like he used to since that 15ft jumper isn't very reliable anymore for some reason.

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2013, 06:23 PM
here's the thing, other than LeBron MIAMI doesn't have the personel to contain that post. George Hill needs to force it there, it's been a set mismatch every time down

obviously its a mismatch, but the heat are trying to take it away as much as possible and limit it with help at times. i agree the pacers need to go to it plenty, but if they over do it trying to force feed them down low it could lead to turnovers when the heat front/trap ect. they just have to be smart about it is all i'm saying.

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 06:27 PM
But most of the Pacers turnovers are in the perimeter. When they go to the rim good things happen.

SportsFanatic10
05-30-2013, 06:30 PM
But most of the Pacers turnovers are in the perimeter. When they go to the rim good things happen.

very true. i just think it's not as easy as here's the ball roy/west go to work every time down. i'm sure they'd love to do that, but it's not there every single time. i think if they force it into the post some of those entry passes will be turnovers with a quick defense like the heat.

mngopher35
05-30-2013, 06:37 PM
Anderson is a better fit at times, but he is foul prone. If he starts he would be out the game in the first 5 minutes with the way the refs have been in this series.


I think if Miami goes down 3-2 and gets killed down low he might get moved over. But Spo really ever hanged his lineups and would much rather have him off the bench.


i love birdman, i think he should play as much as possible. but with spo stuck in his rotations, along with bird's penchant for foul trouble he probably won't play big minutes. another thing with him is he claims to spend all his energy all the time while out there and then needs to sit to recharge once he gets burnt out rather quickly. if i were spo i'd take him out whenever he needs it and tell him to stand up on the bench when hes ready to go back in then sub him in asap depending on the foul situation. hibbert said how hard it is to help on lebron and wade's drives when he knows the bird is lurking behind him waiting for the dump off pass for the easy bucket. he also said how they were basically ignoring haslem until game 3, if haslem has it going like that then he obviously should be in but its so rare he's spacing the floor like he used to since that 15ft jumper isn't very reliable anymore for some reason.

Thanks for the responses, I wanted to see what some Miami fans thought. I agree with the foul thing, I have noticed it at times and it explains it a little. There are certainly games where he isn't in foul trouble and to me it makes more sense to play him. Rotations seem to be part of it as well Slug, and that was the response I was expecting to get.

Fanatic, I think you bring up a good point about haslem. If he is shooting/spreading well he should be playing. To me this is more of a bench player type mentality, when they are hot/effective they play a lot when they aren't they don't. I also agree about the bold. To me him starting could partially solve this. Play him 6 minutes to start the game, and whenever you want again in the second. Do the same to start the 3rd quarter and if you can't/choose not to go small he is available anytime in the fourth. These are just my ideas as I've watched you guys this year and wanted to know if others felt he wasn't getting quite enough pt as well (since he's played great, especially in the playoffs). To me it might help with hibbert in this series specifically.

DODGERS&LAKERS
05-30-2013, 06:42 PM
Cant wait for this game tonight. Dont care who wins I just want it to be close down the stretch

mngopher35
05-30-2013, 06:47 PM
Cant wait for this game tonight. Dont care who wins I just want it to be close down the stretch

I am rooting for Miami, but agree with everything else. First and foremost I hope we get another close game like 1,2,4.

DODGERS&LAKERS
05-30-2013, 06:52 PM
I am rooting for Miami, but agree with everything else. First and foremost I hope we get another close game like 1,2,4.

I kind of want Miami because I would like to see Lebron have another chance at the Spurs. That and I would make it a point to tune in when the games are on. If the Pacers go I will watch, but I will probably be doing something else while the game is on.

bucketss
05-30-2013, 07:05 PM
someone needs to send out a search party for paul george

Pacerlive
05-30-2013, 07:16 PM
someone needs to send out a search party for paul george

Huh? The guy has guarded Smith, Melo and now Lebron. I don't care who you are that would be brutal so I give him a pass especially against the best player in the league and the biggest reason Hibbert can stay on the floor is because PG can stay in front of Lebron.

Ryan328
05-30-2013, 07:37 PM
I'll go Miami takes it 103-90, however, I am pulling for Indiana.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 07:55 PM
someone needs to send out a search party for paul george

:confused:

paul george's play hasn't dropped off really at all this post season.

if any one needs a search party, it's robin #1 and robin #2 for the Heat. they're both playing well below their regular season production levels.

bucketss
05-30-2013, 07:57 PM
:confused:

paul george's play hasn't dropped off really at all this post season.

if any one needs a search party, it's robin #1 and robin #2 for the Heat. they're both playing well below their regular season production levels.

seems like past two games hes gone missing, compared to his impressive play in the first two games.

Swarley91
05-30-2013, 08:04 PM
6 games for the Pacers baby!!! Gonna take advantage of the mentally weak Miami tonight and finish up with an *** kicking at home!!! :rock::rock::rock:

ILLUSIONIST^248
05-30-2013, 08:09 PM
Whoever wins tonight will take the series

Bingo.

jmoney23
05-30-2013, 08:13 PM
I just don't see Indiana winning for several reasons, but I truly do think officiating will play a big part. I know thy have just been bad in general this series, but I just think that because of David Stern runs this league, it's going to happen. The Heat would have a really good chance to win tonight if you had the most impartial and intelligent refs humanly possible, but I just don't think Stern will let a team like Indiana get to the finals, especially with the Spurs already there.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:22 PM
I just don't see Indiana winning for several reasons, but I truly do think officiating will play a big part. I know thy have just been bad in general this series, but I just think that because of David Stern runs this league, it's going to happen. The Heat would have a really good chance to win tonight if you had the most impartial and intelligent refs humanly possible, but I just don't think Stern will let a team like Indiana get to the finals, especially with the Spurs already there.

why'd he "let" the Spurs get there then?

why'd he "let" that series only go 4 games?

denverfan66
05-30-2013, 08:23 PM
Lol @ guy holding poster saying Wade please help us!

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:29 PM
lets go miami!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lavilevi23
05-30-2013, 08:30 PM
Wade will score 30+ I'm calling it!

bucketss
05-30-2013, 08:32 PM
wtf.. anyone else watching this in spanish?

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:33 PM
Why havent we gotten Jeff Van Gundy as a commentator yet? Do they want Miller here to watch his team?

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:34 PM
wtf is this ****

bucketss
05-30-2013, 08:34 PM
wow so annoying time to mute it.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:34 PM
wtf.. anyone else watching this in spanish?

this

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:34 PM
finally

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:34 PM
Why havent we gotten Jeff Van Gundy as a commentator yet? Do they want Miller here to watch his team?

these games are on TNT, Van Gundy doesn't work for TNT

bucketss
05-30-2013, 08:34 PM
finally.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:35 PM
terrible start so far

bucketss
05-30-2013, 08:35 PM
finally

lol we posted this at the same time, are you living in canada by any chance?

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:35 PM
i know hibbert is imposing, but that's exactly what i'm talking about. go all the way to the rim, wade. ATTACK!

that's what they do best, and they're giving up before even trying in that regard.


and LOL haslem :laugh:

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:35 PM
wtf ud

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:36 PM
lol we posted this at the same time, are you living in canada by any chance?

yeah

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:37 PM
just keep on attacking the rim and get them in foul trouble

bucketss
05-30-2013, 08:38 PM
yeah

lol canadian tv always messing up our basketball.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:38 PM
lol canadian tv always messing up our basketball.

lol so true

Ryan328
05-30-2013, 08:39 PM
Ok Paul!!

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:40 PM
hibbert makes bosh look like a boy.

two missed lay ins for the pacers bigs, and they're still up comfortably.

such a mismatch.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:40 PM
this team smh

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:41 PM
the Heat are asleep

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:41 PM
I feel like if Spo didnt have the guys he has on this team. He would probably be out of the league now or an assistant coach.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:41 PM
lebron and wade seriously need to stop being so afraid of hibbert. he's not radioactive.

Wilson
05-30-2013, 08:42 PM
Rooting for Indy but expecting a Miami win.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 08:42 PM
sigh settling for 3s

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:42 PM
why do we keep on shooting attack the rim

lavilevi23
05-30-2013, 08:42 PM
we look like hot garbage

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:42 PM
I cant believe ESPN wrote after game 3 that the Heat were one of the best teams of all time

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:43 PM
I feel like if Spo didnt have the guys he has on this team. He would probably be out of the league now or an assistant coach.

not sure this is on Spo. this is a personnel mismatch. he has no answer on his team for hibbert and even west. anthony is a liability. birdman is great in spurts, but not a good one-on-one defender. lebron can't exert energy guarding west for 40 minutes a game. and lord knows bosh can't guard hibbert at all.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 08:43 PM
Rio only one who keeps attacking the paint smallest guy on the court smh

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:43 PM
the heats basketball iq is so bad


i dont get people that say our players have such high IQ their idiots

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:43 PM
I cant believe ESPN wrote after game 3 that the Heat were one of the best teams of all time

Well since then Lebron has refused to head back to the post.

TeamSeattle
05-30-2013, 08:44 PM
Indiana seems to of figured out the Heat offense is what I'm seeing. Bosh or Haslem haven't got an open catch & shoot the whole 1st quarter, thats the difference.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:44 PM
the heats basketball iq is so bad


i dont get people that say our players have such high IQ their idiots

lebron does, allen and battier do. but that might about it.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:45 PM
not sure this is on Spo. this is a personnel mismatch. he has no answer on his team for hibbert and even west. anthony is a liability. birdman is great in spurts, but not a good one-on-one defender. lebron can't exert energy guarding west for 40 minutes a game. and lord knows bosh can't guard hibbert at all.

yet they have no answer for lebron so wat does he do make plays for him to shoot 3s unlike wat worked which was lebron in the post

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:45 PM
not sure this is on Spo. this is a personnel mismatch. he has no answer on his team for hibbert and even west. anthony is a liability. birdman is great in spurts, but not a good one-on-one defender. lebron can't exert energy guarding west for 40 minutes a game. and lord knows bosh can't guard hibbert at all.

Do you see the offense he runs? Its like set and pick and hang out around the 3 point line and shoot a 3 as time runs out. I mean we are as far away from running the plays we did in the regular season.

Htownballa1622
05-30-2013, 08:45 PM
I remember when Wade was good. :sigh:

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:45 PM
lebron has to nut up and take over. attack and create. this constant perimeter screen setting stuff, which usually results in iffy jumpers, isn't gonna do it.

be lebron, lebron.

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:46 PM
Hibbert is good at the line

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 08:46 PM
another LeBron TO

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:46 PM
3 ****ing layups missed

DreamShaker
05-30-2013, 08:47 PM
Heat look defeated. Kinda like that Pistons/Lakers Finals in 04. You don't know why, but they just look rattled.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:47 PM
Do you see the offense he runs? Its like set and pick and hang out around the 3 point line and shoot a 3 as time runs out. I mean we are as far away from running the plays we did in the regular season.

well yeah, i'm not digging their offense (just posted that).

i meant mainly defensively. which i think has been their biggest issue. considering they're playing arguably the league's best defense, they've been doing OK. defensively is what's killing them. INDY's offense hasn't been great all year.

NYJ - NYY
05-30-2013, 08:47 PM
I think bosh forgets he's almost 7 feet

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 08:47 PM
Rio only one attacking lol LeBron is scared

Ryan328
05-30-2013, 08:48 PM
Roy is ballin'

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:48 PM
Welcome back 2010 finals 4th quarter Lebron.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:48 PM
Heat look defeated. Kinda like that Pistons/Lakers Finals in 04. You don't know why, but they just look rattled.

i'd hold up on the "defeated" talk.

the heat tend to start slow. remember their win streak and how often they'd build up double digit deficits.

it's been less than 10 minutes...we might need to pump the breaks. they're only down 4 and not playing well

cubs1st
05-30-2013, 08:48 PM
Sam Young has no awareness.

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:48 PM
both of these teams leave alot to be desired.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 08:49 PM
Keep going Rio maybe LeBron will get some balls watching you

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:49 PM
Mario is the smallest guy on the court and the only player on Miami that believes he can still drive it.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:49 PM
look wat rio is doing lebron. Take some lessons

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:49 PM
the bad news for miami is that the pacers have missed 4 shots, and three of them were essentially lay-ins. defensively they're getting waxed down low, as expected i guess.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:49 PM
Roy is ballin'

I bet after this playoffs he is going to kick himself for signing the extension last year. He would have gotten a good pay day.

TeamSeattle
05-30-2013, 08:49 PM
both of these teams leave alot to be desired.

You sayin the Spurs wouldn't annihilate both these teams?

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:50 PM
Welcome back 2010 finals 4th quarter Lebron.

This

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:50 PM
Mario is the smallest guy on the court and the only player on Miami that believes he can still drive it.

yup


look wat rio is doing lebron. Take some lessons

yup



hibbert is scary, but you can't just call it a day and pack it in. getting to the rim is what bron and wade do best. they gotta at least try. and too often they're not.

kinda unacceptable for lebron.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:51 PM
the bad news for miami is that the pacers have missed 4 shots, and three of them were essentially lay-ins. defensively they're getting waxed down low, as expected i guess.

I feel like Spo hasnt made an adjustment for this and is just telling them to "embrace" this. I mean at some point can he coach these guys instead of being a philosopher or something?

D-Leethal
05-30-2013, 08:51 PM
Pacers make you hear footsteps. Shooters rush when they don't have to, slashers see the redwood forest even when they might have an open lane.

D-Leethal
05-30-2013, 08:52 PM
Relentless defensive pressure takes its toll.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:52 PM
You sayin the Spurs wouldn't annihilate both these teams?

i don't think the spurs match up well against the heat, not at all as good as the pacers do IMO. they don't quite have the size and inside scoring. nor do they rebound or defend like IND.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:52 PM
HAHA Miami had 6 players on the court.

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:53 PM
ugh

this is hard to watch

wish NHL was on

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:53 PM
Wade is done.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:53 PM
I feel like Spo hasnt made an adjustment for this and is just telling them to "embrace" this. I mean at some point can he coach these guys instead of being a philosopher or something?

i guess i just think there's plenty of blame to go around. i'm sure he isn't saying "hey lebron, be passive" or "hey wade, don't score a lot of points" or "hey, bosh, don't you dare play defense and rebound"...


he hasn't been tremendous, but individually his players are leaving a lot to be desired too.

the blam thus far can be spread wide and thick

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:53 PM
omg u ****ing idiot wade

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:54 PM
I really wish we would just take Wade out of the game. He looks like he doesnt even want to be playing.

Ryan328
05-30-2013, 08:54 PM
George!!

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:54 PM
man no energy at all just pathetic

cubs1st
05-30-2013, 08:54 PM
i don't think the spurs match up well against the heat, not at all as good as the pacers do IMO. they don't quite have the size and inside scoring. nor do they rebound or defend like IND.

That's my thinking too. The Pacers have the best shot at defeating the Heat.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:56 PM
rio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Htownballa1622
05-30-2013, 08:56 PM
wade takes the dumbest shots.

*pump fake*

*step back fadeaway*

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:56 PM
i guess i just think there's plenty of blame to go around. i'm sure he isn't saying "hey lebron, be passive" or "hey wade, don't score a lot of points" or "hey, bosh, don't you dare play defense and rebound"...


he hasn't been tremendous, but individually his players are leaving a lot to be desired too.

the blam thus far can be spread wide and thick

I feel like Indy is doing a great job of taking Miami and what they like to do out of their comfort zone. But Spo is basically trying to force what they do best instead of trying to make an adjustment. At the moment Indy is doing better at what they like over what Miami likes.

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:56 PM
pacers should be up big. so many missed chances

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:57 PM
why doest this team attack the rim and get hibbert in foul trouble

ManRam
05-30-2013, 08:57 PM
wade takes the dumbest shots.

*pump fake*

*step back fadeaway*

Hibbert has them shook.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:57 PM
watch them score

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:58 PM
that was a waste of 12 minutes life

Swarley91
05-30-2013, 08:58 PM
Uh oh Miami... ;)

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 08:58 PM
lebron really has to stop being a ***** and attack the rim ****

DreamShaker
05-30-2013, 08:58 PM
Do the Heat care?????

Slug3
05-30-2013, 08:58 PM
Wade needs to just retire or bed Miami to take some of his money back. Perhaps like 10 million a year.

Htownballa1622
05-30-2013, 08:58 PM
Hibbert has them shook.

True. It's unfortunate they don't attack the rim and at least try. Worst thing is they miss or get blocked. Big deal :shrug:

d00d
05-30-2013, 08:59 PM
Do the Heat care?????

does anyone see the Heat winning multiple ships with this core?

Wade is almost disabled

TeamSeattle
05-30-2013, 08:59 PM
why doest this team attack the rim and get hibbert in foul trouble

Maybe because they tried in the past and Hibbert is great at not drawing fouls.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:00 PM
miami needs to get a real leader that would motivate this team

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:00 PM
there are really only two series in lebron's career that i think he really failed and disappointed tremendously. even in tough team losses, he usually did just about all you could ask him to do, besides the 2011 Finals and the 2010 ECF. despite great numbers this series, if they don't win this i'm adding a third. regardless of his numbers, he's been way too passive way too frequently.

even in game 1 when he wasn't looking to score a ton, he did a GREAT job of getting to the rim, drawing hibbert to him, then kicking it out to open shooters. since then, he's acting like hibbert is radioactive. terrified of him.

and he's better than that.

devilsheat25
05-30-2013, 09:01 PM
Miami sucks this series. Oh we'll next year I guess.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:01 PM
Maybe because they tried in the past and Hibbert is great at not drawing fouls.

keep on attacking the rim hes gonna get into foul trouble no way hell go the entire game without getting into foul trouble

DreamShaker
05-30-2013, 09:01 PM
You are probably right. I just see no passion, no fire. Something just seems off. I can't explain it.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:01 PM
does anyone see the Heat winning multiple ships with this core?

Wade is almost disabled

I was buying into this Wade being hurt thing, but I am starting to just think he just doesn't care.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:02 PM
lebron doesn't have a FT attempt, and there hasn't even been an opportunity for him to even flop himself into one. that's gotta change ASAP (not the flopping, haha...the aggressiveness).

Htownballa1622
05-30-2013, 09:03 PM
FINALLY gets a shot at the rim(Lebron)

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:03 PM
Honestly just put Lebron on Hibbert. I mean he wants to be the defensive man. Its not like he will do any worse.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:04 PM
does anyone see the Heat winning multiple ships with this core?

Wade is almost disabled

i think people are getting really carried away here. prisoners of the moment.

remember when they were down 3-2 to Boston? down 2-1 to Indy last year? down 1-0 to the thunder last year and bulls this year?


i'll panic if and when they lose...not because of an iffy first.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:04 PM
cant stop him

DreamShaker
05-30-2013, 09:04 PM
I don't think Wade is necessarily done, I just think he's not healthy this postseason. Next year I think he could be fine.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:05 PM
battier stays missing.

they need that since it looks like wade isn't gonna be doing much

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:05 PM
what the **** was that

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:05 PM
great down 1 man now

Wilson
05-30-2013, 09:05 PM
Andersen completely overpowered by the ref :laugh2:

Avenged
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
Anderson needs to go.

WITZ
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
:laugh2: fake thug in birdman

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
Anderson is gettin tossed that was just stupid

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
well there goes birdman

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
Hansbrough is like everyone's B***t.

But Anderson is very stupid there.

Avenged
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
It kills the game but he has to go after that.

b@llhog24
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
"Birdman, Birdman"

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
ruh roh.

in the bulls series the heat kept their composure far more than the bulls.


this is the first real crack. i know birdman is volatile, but he snapped.


shouldn't be a tech. flagrant 1 on birdman

LAKobeBryant
05-30-2013, 09:06 PM
If hansbrough falls it should be a ejection according to the lebron fall by mohammad

Minimal
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
Ohh cmon Birdman, why do you do that?

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
battier stays missing.

they need that since it looks like wade isn't gonna be doing much

At this point it might be time to bring in Miller.

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
how is a T on hansbourough?

Avenged
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
Guess not. If this wasn't the ECF, he would have been ejected imo.

Wilson
05-30-2013, 09:07 PM
Double technical. Obviously, because Hansborough was so out of order by being elbowed and then shoved. :rolleyes:

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
lebron u big puss u wanna attack the rim now

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
If hansbrough falls it should be a ejection according to the lebron fall by mohammad

and honestly that was a bad call by the refs there.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
Just stupid

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
i don't think at all that's a flagrant 2.

he shoved the dude, but nothing outrageously dangerous.


shouldn't have been a double tech.

WITZ
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
If Anderson doesn't get tossed i don't know what to say. should have flopped like lebron did :laugh:

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
should have been ejected hes lucky

TheWhiteMamba
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
Hansborough should have flopped to the ground after the push. Birdman would have been ejected.

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
Thank you! boring game until then.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
maybe that sequence fires up the heat though?

birdman looks ready to go now

kdspurman
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
Either Birdman should be ejected or there should be no T on Tyler. What a poor call by the officials.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
Why is Allen on George? That is always a bad move.

Swarley91
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
.

Lakers + Giants
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
I guarantee thats the best andersen has felt after a block.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
Either Birdman should be ejected or there should be no T on Tyler. What a poor call by the officials.

shoulda been a flagrant 1 on birdman and nothing else.

definitely not an ejection, but birdman easily deserves all the punishment there.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
maybe that sequence fires up the heat though?

birdman looks ready to go now

When someone is getting hot on Miami, Spo usually takes them out of the game for rest.

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:10 PM
Birdman stuck his chin out and it was ripe for a knockout. lucky he tried to play tough guy in an NBA game where anyone throws a punch, they lose thousands and thousands of dollars and wont do it. and you know damn well Birdman knows that

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:10 PM
look at that miami paid 110Mill to 3 players that have vanished

TeamSeattle
05-30-2013, 09:10 PM
Hansborough should have flopped to the ground after the push. Birdman would have been ejected.

Really though.

ecorrea
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
Wow bs

Minimal
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
Why does Spo keep Miller on the bench? 5 millions for siting on the bench?

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
Shut the **** up you ****ING piece of ****!!! You're ****ING tool who did the ****!!! METH HEAD piece of ****!!!

i'm pretty sure he wasn't busted or meth. thought it was coke.

Htownballa1622
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
Shut the **** up you ****ING piece of ****!!! You're ****ING tool who did the ****!!! METH HEAD piece of ****!!!

lol.

you're angry.

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
When someone is getting hot on Miami, Spo usually takes them out of the game for rest.

Yep sounds about right. I wish someone would physically hit Wade then he will get mad and start attacking the rim left and right

lakerfan85
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
i don't think at all that's a flagrant 2.

he shoved the dude, but nothing outrageously dangerous.


shouldn't have been a double tech.

really?

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:12 PM
Hansborough should have flopped to the ground after the push. Birdman would have been ejected.

he should have honestly.

that's lebron's point. if you can get away with it, do it.


though, the refs did get to look at it...so if they say an egregious flop clearly it might have backfired.

kdspurman
05-30-2013, 09:12 PM
shoulda been a flagrant 1 on birdman and nothing else.

definitely not an ejection, but birdman easily deserves all the punishment there.

I mean, they did eject Nazr Mohammed for doing something very similar right?

Rivera
05-30-2013, 09:12 PM
Great game so far

That double tech was a :bs: call though

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 09:13 PM
Andersen's a joke. Acting like he's ****ING victim and going nuts after that block. Meth head DOUCHE!!!

He uses meth?!?

TheWhiteMamba
05-30-2013, 09:13 PM
shoulda been a flagrant 1 on birdman and nothing else.

definitely not an ejection, but birdman easily deserves all the punishment there.
Giving a shoulder block tackle to Hansborough when the ball is on the other side of the court warrants an ejection especially from a bench player. Tyler still should have sold the push more.

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:13 PM
finally west

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 09:13 PM
finally home!

I got back in time to see the white guys fight. *keeping it real, they are white*

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:13 PM
Did they really call Hibbert for a foul?

nycericanguy
05-30-2013, 09:14 PM
I mean, they did eject Nazr Mohammed for doing something very similar right?

Maybe Hanborough should have fallen down and slid 25 feet like Lebron did...

you gotta play the game!

Wilson
05-30-2013, 09:14 PM
i don't think at all that's a flagrant 2.

he shoved the dude, but nothing outrageously dangerous.


shouldn't have been a double tech.

Yeah I agree. It's the play-offs, it would have been an extremely soft ejection. Hansbrough needs to stand up to it.

I don't get to watch much basketball anymore so I am just now seeing Andersen's neck tattoos for the first time. Can I just comment on how ridiculous it looks. Especially with the knee high socks. He looks like a clown.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:14 PM
really?

yeah. really.


looks to fit pretty clearly into the flagrant 1 definition to me

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 09:14 PM
still shooting jump shots

Rivera
05-30-2013, 09:14 PM
Hansboro shoulda flopped

JC_
05-30-2013, 09:14 PM
I think they would have ejected Bird if it wasn't Hansborough.

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
Heat have 27 points in the ECF

Avenged
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
So pretty much the NBA punishes regardless as long as their is malicious intent but when it comes down to it here, nothing? This is the same thing as the push on Lebron, the only thing was that he didn't sell it. :rolleyes: not to mention the shove before the push in which he did fall.

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
damn pacers so abusive down low

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
Lebron and wade r useless

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
Battier and Allen cannot even hit open jumpers.

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
that match up is there every time down.

Lakers + Giants
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
He uses meth?!?

obviously, cuz hes white and has tattoos. *sarcasm*

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:16 PM
I mean, they did eject Nazr Mohammed for doing something very similar right?

very similar, for sure. maybe he got lebron when he wasn't looking, whereas here psycho t was squaring him up. psycho t did walk right at birdman, whereas lebron was looking away.

i'm reaching. i'll admit it.

but i didn't think that was a flagrant 2 either.


hard to be perfectly consistent with that stuff. which sucks, but it's unfixable.

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 09:16 PM
Gotta get Cole going. They're simply not leaving the shooters, so attack at all costs even if hibbert in down there. Atleast you put the pressure on him to not foul.

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 09:16 PM
get the ball to the big boys.

lakerfan85
05-30-2013, 09:16 PM
Yeah I agree. It's the play-offs, it would have been an extremely soft ejection. Hansbrough needs to stand up to it.

I don't get to watch much basketball anymore so I am just now seeing Andersen's neck tattoos for the first time. Can I just comment on how ridiculous it looks. Especially with the knee high socks. He looks like a clown.

He is a clown..

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
lebron, you gotta start doing something buddy.

nut up

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
wow even their 3's are getting blocked.

TheWhiteMamba
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
Allen is so useless now lol

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
Pacers are ****ing inept and are beating the Heat by 7

Hardaway Here
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
the rim is there they don't want to go near it

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
At this point its like we will be beat by Riley or something if we are not shooting a 3.

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:17 PM
cant believe lebron is so scared to attack the rim

kdspurman
05-30-2013, 09:18 PM
demarcus cousins ‏@boogiecousins 9m
Smh

:laugh:

LAKobeBryant
05-30-2013, 09:18 PM
honestly i thought wade was going dunk that hard like on perkins

P.I.
05-30-2013, 09:18 PM
I dont understand why Lebron is being stupid and not just take over the game?

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:18 PM
lebron just doesnt want to be here

TeamSeattle
05-30-2013, 09:18 PM
Pacers should really have about 45 points now between the blown layups and bonehead Paul George turnovers.

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
lebron almost looked hesitant to even attack there, he kinda like had to because the path was so open. but that's what he's gotta do: attack and create. got wade an easy look...and he subsequently drew a foul.


we should give some props to Indy's perimeter defense though. they deserve some props here...it's not merely just lebron and wade being passive

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
cant believe lebron is so scared to attack the rim

the Pacers bigs are hard my man. You take it up against them, you better be sure.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
So far we have shot 7 3's and 2 FT's. How is Miami going to win with that output?

tmacsc2
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
Indiana defense is looking great!

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
Pacers should really have about 45 points now between the blown layups and bonehead Paul George turnovers.

god damn aint that the truth, they are ****ing ******** out there

lakerfan85
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
Why does Wade looks like he's been shot out of a cannon every time he gets fouled??

NYJ - NYY
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
The heat look complacent like no drive to wanna win I don't get it

MTL_123
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
pacers should be up at least 15pts the way miami is playing and wade lebron and bosh just disappearing

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:20 PM
lebron almost looked hesitant to even attack there, he kinda like had to because the path was so open. but that's what he's gotta do: attack and create. got wade an easy look...and he subsequently drew a foul.


we should give some props to Indy's perimeter defense though. they deserve some props here...it's not merely just lebron and wade being passive

And Hibbert is not even in the game for that play. I mean I see this guy get up for blocks and fast break dunks. But he is shying as far away as he can to getting to the rim.

Slug3
05-30-2013, 09:20 PM
pacers should be up at least 15pts the way miami is playing and wade lebron and bosh just disappearing

Wade is not coming back ever. Dude is gone and done.

kdspurman
05-30-2013, 09:20 PM
very similar, for sure. maybe he got lebron when he wasn't looking, whereas here psycho t was squaring him up. psycho t did walk right at birdman, whereas lebron was looking away.

i'm reaching. i'll admit it.

but i didn't think that was a flagrant 2 either.


hard to be perfectly consistent with that stuff. which sucks, but it's unfixable.

Definitely reaching :)

I mean, at the end of the day if Tyler does that to Lebron or Wade, he's ejected even if they don't sell it by falling I bet.

Consistency is all we want as fans. The way games are called, depending on the crew kind of sucks. If Joey Crawford is officiating, Birdman is probably gone.

ThunderousDemon
05-30-2013, 09:20 PM
Let's go Pacers!! :clap:

Knick_Fever
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
Allen is so useless now lol

I guess last season's series vs heat was it for him.

natelpete
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
At least the refs haven't been ****ing this up so far. We'll see where it goes.

Wilson
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
So pretty much the NBA punishes regardless as long as their is malicious intent but when it comes down to it here, nothing? This is the same thing as the push on Lebron, the only thing was that he didn't sell it. :rolleyes: not to mention the shove before the push in which he did fall.

Just because they got the Nazr one wrong, doesn't mean they should get this one wrong too. I think you should only get a straight ejection if you do something reckless enough to hurt someone, or intentionally try to hurt someone. Something like a shove, just give them the flagrant and then chuck them if they do it again. Come on, it's the play-offs. I'm not saying they should let them go at each other like hockey players, but there's nothing wrong with a little bit of mardy pardy.


He is a clown..

:laugh2:

KniCks4LiFe
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
Pacers should really have about 45 points now between the blown layups and bonehead Paul George turnovers.

their point guards are so stupid. In this series they can just feed West and Roy and run away wit this thing. They just haven't done it.

d00d
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
the Heat need a Bosh dunk and a dinosaur neck stuck out yelling lets go

lakerfan85
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
that match up is there every time down.

Nice spoiler!!

ManRam
05-30-2013, 09:21 PM
I mean, at the end of the day if Tyler does that to Lebron or Wade, he's ejected even if they don't sell it by falling I bet.

Consistency is all we want as fans. The way games are called, depending on the crew kind of sucks. If Joey Crawford is officiating, Birdman is probably gone.

absolutely should have flopped. lebron said so himself the other day; if the league is just lip service about it, take advantage of it.


at the end of the day, i felt the nazr ejection was wrong, and that an ejection here would have been too. two wrongs wouldn't make it right IMO