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LongWayFromHome
05-24-2013, 12:26 AM
The 04 Pistons are often acclaimed as the NBA Championship team without a star. I loved to watch them and it was pretty cool to see them stomp on the "stacked" Lakers squad.

Will any of them be HOFers? I always assumed Ben Wallace would because of his fantastic defensive prime but I'm not so sure anymore.

Its odd to think but at the time they were all in their 20's:
Rip 25
Chauncey 27
Sheed 29
Big Ben 29
Prince 23
Okur 24
Darko 18
(everyone over 30 already had no shot of ever being a HOFer)

To think that none of these guys would make the HOF at the time would have been pretty crazy.

Also, can you think of another NBA championship team with no HOFers?

Swashcuff
05-24-2013, 12:38 AM
The 04 Pistons are often acclaimed as the NBA Championship team without a star. I loved to watch them and it was pretty cool to see them stomp on the "stacked" Lakers squad.

Will any of them be HOFers? I always assumed Ben Wallace would because of his fantastic defensive prime but I'm not so sure anymore.

Its odd to think but at the time they were all in their 20's:
Rip 25
Chauncey 27
Sheed 29
Big Ben 29
Prince 23
Okur 24
Darko 18
(everyone over 30 already had no shot of ever being a HOFer)

To think that none of these guys would make the HOF at the time would have been pretty crazy.

Also, can you think of another NBA championship team with no HOFers?

79 Sonics before DJ got in.

waveycrockett
05-24-2013, 12:45 AM
Big Ben won like 5 DPOY awards I think he has a good shot

dhopisthename
05-24-2013, 12:45 AM
according to the hall of fame probability Chauncey Billups tops that list at a .223% chance so probably not

waveycrockett
05-24-2013, 12:47 AM
In his prime Ben Wallace drew a ton of comparisons to Bill Russell. I would not be shocked if he got in. A lot of the writers and coaches loved his game.

b@llhog24
05-24-2013, 01:05 AM
Billups, Big Ben and the Human Victory Cigar.

Tony_Starks
05-24-2013, 01:36 AM
Chauncey should. Sheed definitely should. Big Ben should.

That being said they're not getting 1st ballot, it'll take years and years unfortunately.

Raps18-19 Champ
05-24-2013, 01:39 AM
Ben Wallace has the best chance. Then Billups next.

Clippersfan86
05-24-2013, 01:39 AM
Ben Wallace should be a lock. Joke if he doesn't make it. Billups is 60/40 to me.

heyman321
05-24-2013, 01:46 AM
Rip sure aint. He could be replaced by any other 15 ppg scorer in history.

Chronz
05-24-2013, 03:55 AM
Billups is in without a doubt. Gold medal, clutch rep, 2-way efficiency.

amos1er
05-24-2013, 04:01 AM
Billups has the best chance IMO. Finals MVP is a very exclusive club. Don't know many that have one under their belt that haven't made it in. Ben Wallace has the next best chance IMO. Rodman made it due to rebounding and defensive dominance, so why not Big Ben? I know he doesn't have as many rings, but he does have more DPOY awards which are not easy to come by.

Ipushkidsdown
05-24-2013, 04:03 AM
I like Billups and big ben for it. They are HOF types

DDynO
05-24-2013, 04:04 AM
Ben Wallace for sure. Chauncey, maybe.

TrueFan420
05-24-2013, 04:14 AM
I don't think any make it

amos1er
05-24-2013, 04:16 AM
according to the hall of fame probability Chauncey Billups tops that list at a .223% chance so probably not

Those odds go up once a player retires I believe.

NYKalltheway
05-24-2013, 08:09 AM
How about Tayshaun Prince if Grizzlies win this year? :p

netsgiantsyanks
05-24-2013, 08:18 AM
for a undrafted pick ben really outdid himself.

JasonJohnHorn
05-24-2013, 09:02 AM
Ben Wallace is a first ballot in my book.
Chauncey has a legit shot... it's hard not to give a finals MVP a spot in the HOF.

I'd have no problem with Sheed getting in, but I'm not sure that he will.

I don't think Rip will get in.

Prince may have a shot depending on what he does from here on out. If he is lucky and gets on another championship team, the voters LOVE guys who win multiple rings.

That said, I think the more interesting question is will Horry or Fisher get in?

Gators123
05-24-2013, 09:16 AM
I think Big Ben should. He was only great for about 5 years though. That might hurt him.

LongWayFromHome
05-24-2013, 11:10 AM
Ben Wallace is a first ballot in my book.
Chauncey has a legit shot... it's hard not to give a finals MVP a spot in the HOF.

I'd have no problem with Sheed getting in, but I'm not sure that he will.

I don't think Rip will get in.

Prince may have a shot depending on what he does from here on out. If he is lucky and gets on another championship team, the voters LOVE guys who win multiple rings.

That said, I think the more interesting question is will Horry or Fisher get in?

Seriously???????

A guy who has never averaged more than 14.7ppg or 5.8 REB or 3.3 AST (and those aren't from the same season mind you)

Never made an All Star game (not a big deal to me but HOF voters are very serious about that). Basically all he has ever done is make 4 str8 defensive second teams. Bruce Bowen is WAAAAAYYYYY more deserving than prince and he will definitely not get in.

I mean REALLY? Because the guy was lucky enough to be a part of 2 championship teams where he had 15 PER and 7.5 PER he will be in the HOF???? Good grief!!!

By that logic luck boxes like Robert Horry and Derek Fisher and Steve Kerr are LOCKS

OceanSpray
05-24-2013, 11:36 AM
None of them will make it because they weren't "spectacular". That team that won the championship had 5 players who contributed greatly. You can argue Ben Wallace but I don't think anyone else can make it.

ILLUSIONIST^248
05-24-2013, 11:38 AM
Ben Wallace has the best chance. Then Billups next.

^. I would also like to add that the 04 pistons were super underrated.

2-ONE-5
05-24-2013, 01:21 PM
they should go in as a team

tapajafri
05-24-2013, 04:50 PM
LOL at people saying any of these guys make the HOF.

tapajafri
05-24-2013, 04:50 PM
Ben Wallace for sure. Chauncey, maybe.

:laugh:

tapajafri
05-24-2013, 04:51 PM
People act like the HOF is the all-star game.... it's not that easy to make the HOF people. So many superstars have yet to make the HOF.

There's no way possible that Billups/Wallace make the HOF when guys like Mitch Richmond haven't. People and this HOF business are ridiculous. Every allstar is HOF'er to these morons

Hawkeye15
05-24-2013, 06:10 PM
Billups is a shoe in, Wallace will get in as well.

Hawkeye15
05-24-2013, 06:10 PM
People act like the HOF is the all-star game.... it's not that easy to make the HOF people. So many superstars have yet to make the HOF.

There's no way possible that Billups/Wallace make the HOF when guys like Mitch Richmond haven't. People and this HOF business are ridiculous. Every allstar is HOF'er to these morons

Richmond played like 26 career playoff games, and didn't have superstar stats.

Basketball HOF isn't that difficult compared to some other sports.

SportsFanatic10
05-24-2013, 06:13 PM
billups and ben wallace make it i think

jerellh528
05-24-2013, 06:23 PM
maybe ben wallace. purely on defensive dominance because he was just pitiful on offense.
i think 4 dpoys and 4 all star games should garner some hof consideration.

JordansBulls
05-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Ben Wallace easily. Billups also will get in with a finals mvp and gold medal.

FortDetroit
05-28-2013, 03:11 AM
None. MAYBE Big Ben.

Man, they were so close to a 2nd championship too. Even if they won that one I don't think they would have any HOFers.

5ass
05-28-2013, 03:18 AM
yes

lincecum=future
05-28-2013, 03:26 AM
Only person who has a chance is Big Wallace and I don't think he'll get in. Or really deserve to get in to be honest.

UPRock
05-28-2013, 03:33 AM
Billups and Big Ben.

Sadds The Gr8
05-28-2013, 03:42 AM
I think Big Ben makes it

Bruno
05-28-2013, 03:42 AM
billups and wallace

Auseranami
05-28-2013, 03:53 AM
Ben Wallace has the best chance of making it in. Led the league a few times in rebounding and blocks, has 4 dpoys and a couple all star appearances. If he doesn't make it, nobody else from that team deserves it. Chauncey has the second best chance, he won't be a 1st ballot tho. Big Ben may also garner some HoF recognition because he was undrafted and a bit undersized.

TheNumber37
05-28-2013, 04:15 AM
Billups and Big Ben.
Sheed had a shot too.

Heediot
05-28-2013, 07:35 AM
Ben Wallace will not make it because he only played at a high level for roughly 5 years. He was a beast defensively and on the glass during his peak, but that doesn't justify his HOF entry IMO.

One cannot compare him to Rodman who has at least twice the run Ben had.

Billups has a strong chance, he's comparable to a guy like Dennis Johnson who eventually made it.

ManningToTyree
05-28-2013, 08:17 AM
if I had a vote I would consider Ben. I think Rodman opened the door for dominant defensive players to get in. Billups is a hall of "very good" type of guy to me though his clutch reputation and gold medal could put him over the top. Sheed is also a borderline no from me.

Rip and Prince shouldn't warrant any consideration.

bagwell368
05-28-2013, 09:12 AM
Only person who has a chance is Big Wallace and I don't think he'll get in. Or really deserve to get in to be honest.

Billups is close, until the title/MVP and medal? He's in but he'' wait a few years. He's somewhere in the 55-70 all time list.

Ben will be waiting a good long time if ever. He's not even in the top 125 players of all time. He's not as decorated as Rodman.

xRipCity
05-28-2013, 10:46 AM
None, which honestly makes their title run that much more significant.

LongWayFromHome
05-28-2013, 12:41 PM
Billups is close, until the title/MVP and medal? He's in but he'' wait a few years. He's somewhere in the 55-70 all time list.

Ben will be waiting a good long time if ever. He's not even in the top 125 players of all time. He's not as decorated as Rodman.

I think the longer it takes the more people will forget him.